Do you trust Bill Gates?

8kczg9v0swrydm · 03-06-2020 3:03pm #1

I can't quite put my finger on it, but something seems off about this guy.

He is constantly hailed as a healthcare expert on COVID-19, even though his expertise is software development. He continues to shower the increasingly discredited WHO with millions of dollars. Then there is stuff like this:

This is a slightly satirical commentary on Gates' recent activities

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Kermit.de.frog · 03-06-2020 3:05pm

Sure, why not?

Good jib! · 03-06-2020 3:06pm

You're possible confusing someone who takes an interest in improving health around the world, with someone who claims to be an expert.

As for the population thing, the earth obviously has its limits, and the higher the population, the fewer resources available per person and the greater the risk of soil depletion, deforestation, excessive global warming, so managing the population is important.

Harry Palmr · 03-06-2020 3:12pm

More conspiracy theory bull**** by a newbie.

BIll Gates has done more for more people than you could do in a million lifetimes.

03-06-2020 3:14pm

Didn't he do a TED talk five or six years ago and near enough describe the current Covid-19 situation?

He was saying that the world was grossly unprepared for such a pandemic.

Cordell · 03-06-2020 3:14pm

Soros is not long for this world and Gates is a handy replacement. That's all.

03-06-2020 3:17pm

I'm sure a 17 second clip of him talking is entirely representative of the man.

He and his charity have helped millions of people.
Potentially billions.
I'd offer him citizenship here.

03-06-2020 3:18pm

Purple monkey dishwasher bill gates evil

shaveAbullock · 03-06-2020 3:18pm

I still don't understand what nefarious intentions supposedly Gates has.
What would he stand to gain by ensuring hundreds of millions of poor people have access to vaccinations, except for the satisfaction that he has done something good with some of his money.

03-06-2020 3:19pm

Cordell wrote: »

Soros is not long for this world and Gates is a handy replacement. That's all.

I'm relieved that one overlord will hand the reins to another. Accidentally inhaled those chemtrails again, the liberals are trying to impose sharia law in Ireland. They won't sneak it by me, not with this pitchfork raised.

Corholio · 03-06-2020 3:20pm

Took 6 whole posts before Soros was mentioned. These lads are slowing up a bit!

MisterAnarchy · 03-06-2020 3:22pm

I never trusted him after what he did to Homer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H27rfr59RiE

Cordell · 03-06-2020 3:26pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm relieved that one overlord will hand the reins to another. Accidentally inhaled those chemtrails again, the liberals are trying to impose sharia law in Ireland. They won't sneak it by me, not with this pitchfork raised.

Keep fighting the good fight, I'll join in a minute. I've no pitchfork, will a rake do?

Corholio wrote: »

Took 6 whole posts before Soros was mentioned. These lads are slowing up a bit!

This is what is happening, he's getting more and more blame for various things, a few weeks ago some italian nutcase MP demanded his arrest. Soros is very old and they need someone else to carry the blame for everything.

Annasopra · 03-06-2020 3:26pm

Is he another Communist? :pac:

JoChervil · 03-06-2020 3:31pm

OP, please, stop that nonsense.

There are enough anti-vaxxers attacking him out three...

CrankyHaus · 03-06-2020 3:43pm

The bigger question is how did he go from being a nerdy billionaire putting his fortune into charity to some hate-figure for conspiracy theorists?

Madeleine Birchfield · 03-06-2020 3:45pm

CrankyHaus wrote: »

The bigger question is how did he go from being a nerdy billionaire putting his fortune into charity to some hate-figure for conspiracy theorists?

Because George Soros is old and they need another liberal billionaire figure to hate on after Soros dies.

4068ac1elhodqr · 03-06-2020 3:54pm

shaveAbullock wrote: »

I still don't understand what nefarious intentions supposedly Gates has.
What would he stand to gain by ensuring hundreds of millions of poor people have access to vaccinations, except for the satisfaction that he has done something good with some of his money.

Take your pick of vested (technological, and potential revenue streams):

i) Supports id2020.org, to ensure the everyone on the planet has a 'DigitalID', much like a barcode*, to quickly identify anyone, anywhere at any time. Without this new 'DigitalID' access to services may be restricted, if it does see mass roll-out (2030-ish).

ii) Funded something similar (but different) to an inbody chip via MIT.
It's called the 'QuantumDotTatto'.
Deployable under the guise of 'tracking vaccines' (immunisation passports). https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2019018301A1/en This product is the most likely candidate to '*barcode' folks. It can pull a unique 16kb of blockchain paired data via Azure Cloud from anywhere, anytime with a simple i-red scan. This datamark will likely contain all important private details and all forms of old paper/plastic ID. It may also function as a 'digital wallet^'.

ii) While at MicroSoft the filed a patent for in-body ^blockchain mining (ideal for the digital cashless future, and a good transaction earner). Essentially uses your own body (blood sugars, and energy) as a digital wallet processor. https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606

(more for historical reference): Birth control in Africa using chip implants, The Guardian alluded that this may be viewed by many as 'subversive family planning'. Might also be health risks e.g. with storing a 16yr resivour of the hormone levonorgestrel (inbody) e.g. accidential bulk/remote release etc.

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/architecture-design-blog/2014/jul/11/design-futures-remote-controlled-contraceptive-microchip-launch-by-2018

So, yes intersted in healthcare, but more so with a view to digitise it, along with universal digital embodiment identifers. This in turn can lead to control of populations and huge fiscal returns.

CrankyHaus · 03-06-2020 3:56pm

Madeleine Birchfield wrote: »

Because George Soros is old and they need another liberal billionaire figure to hate on after Soros dies.

George Soros is a much more divisive figure though; whether you're talking about his currency raiding or the causes he funds. Just because a lot of lunatics build him up into something bigger doesn't mean many of the criticisms of him aren't appropriate.

ChikiChiki · 03-06-2020 4:08pm

In a world where a lot of rich people are assholes, I genuinely thing Bill Gates is one of the really good guys. Seems his heart is in the right place.

CrankyHaus · 03-06-2020 4:17pm

ChikiChiki wrote: »

In a world where a lot of rich people are assholes, I genuinely thing Bill Gates is one of the really good guys. Seems his heart is in the right place.

He definitely did some sharp practices in Microsoft, but it was the nature of the industry.
His overall contribution to human advancement is enormous.

The worst thing I'd say about him is that developing world toilet idea he had in the Netflix documentary was ridiculous. A perfect example of tech nerd over-engineering to solve a basic problem that is actually beyond parody.

Still doesn't explain how he's become some conspiracy villain.

Mr E · 03-06-2020 4:27pm

Mod: moved to conspiracy theories.

The Tetrarch · 03-06-2020 4:31pm

ChikiChiki wrote: »

In a world where a lot of rich people are assholes, I genuinely thing Bill Gates is one of the really good guys. Seems his heart is in the right place.

If you read about his dealings with Gary Kildall you would probably change every word in your above sentence.

maccored · 03-06-2020 8:48pm

people who think bill gates is a coronavirus expert are usually the people who think covid 19 is the first instance of it.

Overheal · 03-06-2020 11:52pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPfsr8BBdA8

Good jib! · 04-06-2020 8:54am

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm sure a 17 second clip of him talking is entirely representative of the man.

He and his charity have helped millions of people.
Potentially billions.
I'd offer him citizenship here.

Yeah, but did you watch the 31 minute video? :P

Dohnjoe · 04-06-2020 1:00pm

Fatima Uneven Grease wrote: »

I can't quite put my finger on it, but something seems off about

Ah the bedrock of conspiracy forums everywhere

The Nal · 11-06-2020 12:49pm

How Bill Gates became the voodoo doll of Covid conspiracies

Bill Gates is not secretly plotting microchips in a coronavirus vaccine. Misinformation and conspiracy theories are dangerous for everyone.

4068ac1elhodqr · 11-06-2020 2:54pm

The Nal wrote: »

Bill Gates is not secretly plotting microchips .....

Ah the same old 'guff' and 'grifters' to trying to incorrectly build a false connection of BillyGates with actual 'hard chip' insertion, therby (rightfully) allowing the opportunity, to return reasons why it's not the case (hard chipping).

Of course it's not the case. (Well in regards to COVID).

Not sure many think it is.... His actual brief (and thus solution) via MIT for DigitalImmunityCerts was much, much, more subtle than all this 'chipping'.

Their (MITs) proposal in return, on the back of Bill's millions is the very simple: (not chip) (not RFID) and (non invasive) and (non medical insertion): Quantum Dot Tattoo.

A very simple quick subtle embodiment, that functions as a very simple, unique data mark on the arm. Can be performed quickly and simply, using microneedles, sits just under the skin.
https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2019018301A1/en Sure you'd hardly know it will be embedded at time of vaccine, just another 1 second process on top of the jab.

AFAIK he hasn't been 'sticking actual proper big chips' in to people for good while now, not since his 'family planning' proposal many years ago.
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/architecture-design-blog/2014/jul/11/design-futures-remote-controlled-contraceptive-microchip-launch-by-2018
Not even sure what become of the 'remote control chip based 16yr e-reservoir based levonorgestrel dosing', of African ladies that was planned for 2018, anybody know? Most likely buried due to bad PR.

mr_fegelien · 11-06-2020 2:59pm

The conspiracy I've heard from David Icke is that Gates is carrying out a sterilisation/depopulation agenda and using vaccines as a guise for it.

blackbox · 11-06-2020 3:07pm

It's a shame that his nuclear power program hasn't come to fruition.

Dohnjoe · 11-06-2020 3:28pm

Zoie Billions Soda wrote: »

Ah the same old 'guff' and 'grifters' to trying to incorrectly build a false connection of BillyGates with actual 'hard chip' insertion

lol

Hoop66 · 15-06-2020 9:52am

Fatima Uneven Grease wrote: »

He is constantly hailed as a healthcare expert on COVID-19, even though his expertise is software development.

By whom is he "hailed as a healthcare expert"?

punchdrunk · 15-06-2020 11:09am

watch his documentary on netflix, the man devours books on every subject, he carries around a canvas bag of about 15 books at any one time and the man ain't reading "PS I LOVE YOU" he's vastly knowledgeable on a great many subjects.
he has an intellect on a par with or exceeding most doctors and scientists but he still hires the best experts in all fields for his projects.

he's not perfect, he was a bit of a dick in his early years but recently he's done so much for humanity and we reward him with this nonsense!

Dohnjoe · 15-06-2020 12:32pm

punchdrunk wrote: »

watch his documentary on netflix, the man devours books on every subject, he carries around a canvas bag of about 15 books at any one time and the man ain't reading "PS I LOVE YOU" he's vastly knowledgeable on a great many subjects.
he has an intellect on a par with or exceeding most doctors and scientists but he still hires the best experts in all fields for his projects.

he's not perfect, he was a bit of a dick in his early years but recently he's done so much for humanity and we reward him with this nonsense!

A certain fringe seem to require a boogeyman/anti-christ, apparently Gates fits that

Literally one of the most charitable harmless people on the planet. These are not smart people.

4068ac1elhodqr · 15-06-2020 2:12pm

Hoop66 wrote: »

By whom is he "hailed as a healthcare expert"?

By himself generally.
The self-appointed 'global vaccine man' is just that.

Throwing money can certainly get anyone in that position, is a major funder behind GAVI, id2020 and plenty of medical (rather medi-tech) soloutions and patents.

With decades of programming and technologies behind him, this is where the nerdy chaps core interests still actually are. Just before resigning from Miscrosft earlier this year, they patented in-body crytpocurrency, a nightmarish use of blood gloucose and body generated energy to mine blockchain on the fly.

Then there is the Quantum Dot Tatto he's considering adding to 7bn vaccines, essentially an (advanced) barcode lashed, on(into) the arms of every citizen on the planet, dressed up as an an immunity cert.

Apart from that he's grand.

Cordell · 15-06-2020 2:16pm

He's pushing vaccines because he listens to healthcare experts, that doesn't make him one of them. Same if he invests in health related technologies, this makes him an investor, not an expert.

15-06-2020 3:04pm

Zoie Billions Soda wrote: »

By himself generally.
The self-appointed 'global vaccine man' is just that.

Throwing money can certainly get anyone in that position, is a major funder behind GAVI, id2020 and plenty of medical (rather medi-tech) soloutions and patents.

With decades of programming and technologies behind him, this is where the nerdy chaps core interests still actually are. Just before resigning from Miscrosft earlier this year, they patented in-body crytpocurrency, a nightmarish use of blood gloucose and body generated energy to mine blockchain on the fly.

Then there is the Quantum Dot Tatto he's considering adding to 7bn vaccines, essentially an (advanced) barcode lashed, on(into) the arms of every citizen on the planet, dressed up as an an immunity cert.

Apart from that he's grand.

Hey, can you show where he's declared himself an expert on vaccines? He defers to experts on the subject if anything. In terms of quantum dot tattoos, he's invested in research into it which isn't remotely nefarious. Also invested in research on loads of other possible ways to approach the issue.

The research you're referring to is in incredibly early stages. So even if quantum dots became a thing, they're five years plus away. Also the focus seems to be primarily focused on developing countries where immunisation records simply aren't kept. So the focus isn't even 7 billion people....

Meanwhile id2020 is entirely separate to the above. It's focused on id, pilot programmes exist. Using things such as fingerprints, iris scans and qr codes. Not quantum dots as you're claiming. If your argument had any merit, it wouldn't be so reliant on invention.

gar32 · 15-06-2020 3:07pm

He wants to use children in the next Phase of the COVID-19 vaccine trail. The death rate of children from Covid-19 is statistically Zero. Why risk children in a vaccine trail when they don't need the vaccine?

gar32 · 15-06-2020 3:08pm

Also people think he gives his money to charity. Look at his wealth growth over time. He is creaming it in from all angles.

https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-businessmen/richest-billionaires/bill-gates-net-worth/

15-06-2020 3:12pm

gar32 wrote: »

He wants to use children in the next Phase of the COVID-19 vaccine trail. The death rate of children from Covid-19 is statistically Zero. Why risk children in a vaccine trail when they don't need the vaccine?

Children will be participating in trials but once again. Nothing to do with Gates... Children also will need to be vaccinated, they can be carriers even if it doesn't hit them badly.

King Mob · 15-06-2020 3:20pm

gar32 wrote: »

He wants to use children in the next Phase of the COVID-19 vaccine trail. The death rate of children from Covid-19 is statistically Zero. Why risk children in a vaccine trail when they don't need the vaccine?

None of that is true.

gar32 · 15-06-2020 3:20pm

There is no need for a vaccine. The antibodies tested in the worse hit towns in Germany where 57%. Most people who got it did not even know. It is spreading now again all over the EU but as people are healthier in Summer it is mild or even unnoticed. Gates himself in interview said safety of vaccine trail will not be good as it is being done so fast.

Dohnjoe · 15-06-2020 3:22pm

gar32 wrote: »

Also people think he gives his money to charity.

He does. So far about $50 bn. He's also encouraged other billionaires to give away their wealth to charity (around 200 at least count)

A lot of blatant disinfo about this online, here's a straight-forward fact-check
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/11/fact-check-bill-gates-has-given-over-50-billion-charitable-causes/3169864001/#:~:text=Gates%20is%20a%20noted%20philanthropist,billion%20to%20charity%20since%201994.

King Mob · 15-06-2020 3:23pm

gar32 wrote: »

There is no need for a vaccine. The antibodies tested in the worse hit towns in Germany where 57%. Most people who got it did not even know. It is spreading now again all over the EU but as people are healthier in Summer it is mild or even unnoticed. Gates himself in interview said safety of vaccine trail will not be good as it is being done so fast.

Source?
Just making it up?

Dohnjoe · 15-06-2020 3:23pm

gar32 wrote: »

There is no need for a vaccine.

There is. Jesus christ.

15-06-2020 3:25pm

gar32 wrote: »

There is no need for a vaccine. The antibodies tested in the worse hit towns in Germany where 57%. Most people who got it did not even know. It is spreading now again all over the EU but as people are healthier in Summer it is mild or even unnoticed. Gates himself in interview said safety of vaccine trail will not be good as it is being done so fast.

Once again, you're making stuff up. Locations have started to reenter lockdown in the past few days. Bill Gates did not say the vaccine would be unsafe. Places such as Sweden which are the worst hit in Europe are nowhere near herd immunity.

So yes there is a need for the vaccine and you should try to backup your points rather than spouting things that are made up.

The town you're referring to is one of the worst hit places in Italy. Deaths rates were 568% the norm.. That's an argument for a vaccine, also still not herd immunity even at 57%.

https://m.dw.com/en/coronavirus-tests-show-half-of-people-in-italys-bergamo-have-antibodies/a-53739727

gar32 · 15-06-2020 3:45pm

King Mob wrote: »

Source?
Just making it up?

A quick google & bang

https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-tests-show-half-of-people-in-italys-bergamo-have-antibodies/a-53739727

Also in Germany the same antibody found.

King Mob · 15-06-2020 3:48pm

gar32 wrote: »

A quick google & bang

https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-tests-show-half-of-people-in-italys-bergamo-have-antibodies/a-53739727

Also in Germany the same antibody found.

Ok. And how do you get from that to the idea that we don't need a vaccine?

Are you a doctor?
An expert in virology maybe?

Or did you just read stuff on the internet to come to this conclusion?

gar32 · 15-06-2020 3:52pm

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/we-call-investigations-bill-melinda-gates-foundation-medical-malpractice-crimes-against-humanity

I am not making up things just bring you info I can not put in court but is out there.

No smoke without fire and all.

15-06-2020 3:54pm

gar32 wrote: »

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/we-call-investigations-bill-melinda-gates-foundation-medical-malpractice-crimes-against-humanity

I am not making up things just bring you info I can not put in court but is out there.

No smoke without fire and all.

Half a million people signing a petition is meaningless. Like there's millions of Americans who believe in QAnon. You yourself have posted numerous untruths in this thread with no source.

Do you trust Bill Gates?

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