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Covid-19 Kerry

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,773 ✭✭✭jimmytwotimes 2013


    barryribs wrote: »
    Off work and holidays are not the same

    Working remotely and being off work aren't the same thing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭barryribs


    Working remotely and being off work aren't the same thing

    The majority of that burden was carried by the parents, hence the reason schools are not remote now.

    Like I said I've no problem with the teachers, it's a difficult job made harder with the ppe and seperation of students. Most teachers I know are happy to be back despite all the extra restrictions and pods. It's the unions that need to cop on and stop looking at the private sector with green eyed envy as if the rest of the country is delighted to be picking up 350 a week, and tackle the problems that they actually have a vested interest in


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,773 ✭✭✭jimmytwotimes 2013


    barryribs wrote: »
    The majority of that burden was carried by the parents, hence the reason schools are not remote now.

    Parents weren't doing out my notes, essays, sample answers or recording voiceovers to PowerPoints etc.

    There has been no study so you're guessing as to why remote learning wasn't a complete success.

    Poor student engagement
    Rural broadband
    Lack of devices in households where more than one child still in education
    Parents inability to motivate their children etc

    among some of the possible reasons.

    But I wouldn't claim to know where the majority of burden fell....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭kev_Makaveli


    barryribs wrote: »
    The majority of that burden was carried by the parents, hence the reason schools are not remote now.

    No It was not. Coming from a household where I'm working Remote and the OH is a teacher I can assure you more work was done trying to organize Lessons , get homework organized , Emails from parents at all hours with queries I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

    Factor that in with trying to home-school your own 2 its a logistical nightmare.

    I can 100% see why teachers are anxious . The thoughts of going remote and going through it all again is crap.

    Then the opposite is they keep the schools open with no social distancing. You see kids getting into other households cars after school. Parents gathering without masks at school gates I can't say I blame unions for pushing for the teachers .

    There has already been teacher who tested positive in my OH's school.

    I've also heard of another Tralee school where another teacher tested positive along with 6-7 Students. An entire class sent home.

    Its all well and good saying keep the schools open but at what cost.
    Should the teachers continue to be fully paid in the case of a lockdown . Absolutely.


    Keep in mind its the unions pushing this and unions dont speak for everyone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,362 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    No It was not. Coming from a household where I'm working Remote and the OH is a teacher I can assure you more work was done trying to organize Lessons , get homework organized , Emails from parents at all hours with queries I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

    Factor that in with trying to home-school your own 2 its a logistical nightmare.

    I can 100% see why teachers are anxious . The thoughts of going remote and going through it all again is crap.

    Then the opposite is they keep the schools open with no social distancing. You see kids getting into other households cars after school. Parents gathering without masks at school gates I can't say I blame unions for pushing for the teachers .

    There has already been teacher who tested positive in my OH's school.

    I've also heard of another Tralee school where another teacher tested positive along with 6-7 Students. An entire class sent home.

    Its all well and good saying keep the schools open but at what cost.
    Should the teachers continue to be fully paid in the case of a lockdown . Absolutely.


    Keep in mind its the unions pushing this and unions dont speak for everyone

    You're not the only person who has a partner working as a teacher but I dare say you would be in a minority amongst them and all teachers with that attitude.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭barryribs


    Keep in mind its the unions pushing this and unions dont speak for everyone

    Which was my point all along. Teachers guidance and support on remote working varied massively from school to school, the union did nothing. The school in tarbert being forced to reopened, the union are doing nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch



    A slight decrease to 22 today, hopefully we'll get a consistent trend over the coming weeks:

    https://twitter.com/RobOHanrahan/status/1319325615003152384


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    LEA data update:

    Listowel: 162 cases (565 incidence rate)
    Corca Dhuibhne: 10 cases (70.5 incidence rate)
    Castleisland: 18 cases (105 incidence rate)
    Tralee: 58 cases (175.6 incidence rate)
    Kenmare: 41 cases (163.6 incidence rate)
    Killarney: 74 cases (249.4 incidence rate)

    Cases appear to have doubled in Tralee since last Thursday, but the Listowel incidence rate is jaw-dropping.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭phormium


    Is the big increase in Tralee numbers due to any obvious cluster? Don't want names and addresses :) but just curious as to whether it is spreading from something particular or just more random groups.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,408 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    phormium wrote: »
    Is the big increase in Tralee numbers due to any obvious cluster? Don't want names and addresses :) but just curious as to whether it is spreading from something particular or just more random groups.

    Communions two weeks ago. Lots of parties...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭LuasSimon


    One doesn’t have to be Einstein to know what group are responsible for a sizeable amount of the cases in listowel and Tralee .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭phormium


    Interesting! Actually that just reminds me I was in a petrol station in Tralee couple of weeks ago and a big white stretch car of some sort came in, I assumed it was a communion gang, I remember thinking not much distancing inside there!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,408 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    phormium wrote: »
    Interesting! Actually that just reminds me I was in a petrol station in Tralee couple of weeks ago and a big white stretch car of some sort came in, I assumed it was a communion gang, I remember thinking not much distancing inside there!

    I predicted this spike when I heard about some of the parties being planned. Gazebos, bouncy castles and the usual refreshments for the adults attending. It's pure speculation on my part, but the rise in Listowel corresponded to communion in that town. People just aren't getting the message.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,362 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    I predicted this spike when I heard about some of the parties being planned. Gazebos, bouncy castles and the usual refreshments for the adults attending. It's pure speculation on my part, but the rise in Listowel corresponded to communion in that town. People just aren't getting the message.

    I predicted the Horse Racing Festival being allowed to go ahead was a disaster waiting to happen and was an open invitation to the virus.

    Communions happened all over the country without a corresponding rise in cases.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,874 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    I predicted the Horse Racing Festival being allowed to go ahead was a disaster waiting to happen and was an open invitation to the virus.

    Communions happened all over the country without a corresponding rise in cases.

    That's incorrect and silly talk. Communion parties along with other parties are a big part of the problem in Donegal and Cavan. Any get together that involves household gatherings (have done) and will spread the virus. All you need is one person that attended a horse racing festival or another communion gathering to attend said parties and you have a super spread.

    Any gathering with multiple households will cause a rise in cases. Communion, bar mitzvah, Pagan gathering, Amrit.. the virus knows no religion. Have a party for whatever reason, you're taking a big risk, acting irresponsibly, and endangering the vulnerable in your society and will be responsible for a further rise on C-19 in Kerry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,362 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    That's incorrect and silly talk. Communion parties along with other parties are a big part of the problem in Donegal and Cavan. Any get together that involves household gatherings (have done) and will spread the virus. All you need is one person that attended a horse racing festival or another communion gathering to attend said parties and you have a super spread.

    Any gathering with multiple households will cause a rise in cases. Communion, bar mitzvah, Pagan gathering, Amrit.. the virus knows no religion. Have a party for whatever reason, you're taking a big risk, acting irresponsibly, and endangering the vulnerable in your society and will be responsible for a further rise on C-19 in Kerry.

    I fully understand how it can be spread, to blame communions for the spread in Listowel after that little isolated town went ahead and hosted visitors from all the most infected parts of the country when it was practically Covid free is what is silly talk.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,113 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I fully understand how it can be spread, to blame communions for the spread in Listowel after that little isolated town went ahead and hosted visitors from all the most infected parts of the country when it was practically Covid free is what is silly talk.

    I wonder how many cases escalated from the Jumbos fiasco, where I think a couple of employees allegedly knew that they were Covid positive, yet didn't tell the owner, and carried on working in the place? A lot of people cross the thresholds of popular fast food places.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,874 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    I fully understand how it can be spread, to blame communions for the spread in Listowel after that little isolated town went ahead and hosted visitors from all the most infected parts of the country when it was practically Covid free is what is silly talk.

    Any parties or gatherings spread the virus.

    To say communions were held all over the country without a rise in cases is wrong. You should refrain from saying things like this, silly people listen to silly talk.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭LuasSimon


    It’s a certain demographic of this country that hold ridiculous extravagant parties in marquees etc with large extended families with loads of cousins that created spikes in a number of towns. . The vast vast majority of joe soaps had very low key small family gatherings and were fine .
    It’s just like everything else in Ireland there’s one law for the law abiding and one group of Irish people do whatever suits them .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,408 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    LuasSimon wrote: »
    It’s a certain demographic of this country that hold ridiculous extravagant parties in marquees etc with large extended families with loads of cousins that created spikes in a number of towns. . The vast vast majority of joe soaps had very low key small family gatherings and were fine .
    It’s just like everything else in Ireland there’s one law for the law abiding and one group of Irish people do whatever suits them .
    NO family gatherings without social distancing were safe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,874 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    LuasSimon wrote: »
    It’s a certain demographic of this country that hold ridiculous extravagant parties in marquees etc with large extended families with loads of cousins that created spikes in a number of towns. . The vast vast majority of joe soaps had very low key small family gatherings and were fine .
    It’s just like everything else in Ireland there’s one law for the law abiding and one group of Irish people do whatever suits them .

    The vast majority had family gatherings? No wonder it spread like wildfire.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,362 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    Any parties or gatherings spread the virus.

    To say communions were held all over the country without a rise in cases is wrong. You should refrain from saying things like this, silly people listen to silly talk.

    It's very wrong John, and I never said it.

    In fact I said the complete opposite after witnessing the scenes outside Kenmare church a few weeks ago, go back and check my posts.

    I also pointed out well before Listowel Races were held that it was a ridiculous decision to allow them to go ahead simply because the regular visitors had their accommodation booked since the previous festival.

    A committee decided the races would go ahead, but the crowds that were booked in for the week would not be able to watch them at the track.

    The visitors came from far and wide and partied around the town, a couple of weeks later the town that had less than 5 cases up until then was riddled in Covid 19.

    Two weeks after the races the isolated little town had become one of the worst hit districts on the western seaboard with 63 positive cases.

    Now if you think that's just a coincidence John, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

    Silly people listen to silly talk and other people look at facts and statistics.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭kerry cow


    fact is the town was deserted for race week , any other talk is bull**** .
    I was there , I saw it , there was hardly anyone around race week .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,362 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    kerry cow wrote: »
    fact is the town was deserted for race week , any other talk is bull**** .
    I was there , I saw it , there was hardly anyone around race week .

    We can agree to disagree on that because I don't accept that the influx of people to the town somehow caused the town to be deserted.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,874 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Ok Rows. You never said it.
    It's very wrong John, and I never said it.
    Communions happened all over the country without a corresponding rise in cases.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭kerry cow


    the listowel communion problem was, that our distant cousins had close cousin around for the party .

    I hope you understand , or maybe I need Trump to explain it to you .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,362 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    Ok Rows. You never said it.

    The rate of Covid 19 infections did not rise in any other town that held communions at a similar (or anywhere near the) rate to Listowel.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,874 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    The rate of Covid 19 infections did not rise in any other town that held communions at a similar (or anywhere near the) rate to Listowel.

    I don't know how you're going to prove that Rows but anyone will tell you that multiple gatherings throughout the entire country will have a bigger affect than one gathering in Listowel.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,113 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,362 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    ejmaztec wrote: »

    That's a shame, it was going the right way there for a while.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,113 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    That's a shame, it was going the right way there for a while.

    When I saw that the figure was down for the entire country, I was hopeful, but then the Kerry figure appeared, and that was that :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,362 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    And 18 today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,408 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    And 18 today.

    Well, that's a move in the right direction. I know it's Monday but let's hope this is the start of a downward trend for Kerry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,362 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    I wonder is it a case of the test results coming back in delayed batches for Kerry, there doesn't seem to be any kind of pattern or trend lately.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,867 ✭✭✭kn


    I wonder is it a case of the test results coming back in delayed batches for Kerry, there doesn't seem to be any kind of pattern or trend lately.

    Could probably say the same for everywhere. We really need to look at this on a weekly basis at least as there be any one of a myriad of reasons for an especially high or low number on any given day.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭theboss80


    I was tested Thursday morning in Tralee and had test result back by 6pm Friday. Negative thank god.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭theguzman


    In the Bons Secours or Ballymullen?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,868 ✭✭✭JohnGreenFan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    kn wrote: »
    Could probably say the same for everywhere. We really need to look at this on a weekly basis at least as there be any one of a myriad of reasons for an especially high or low number on any given day.

    Gavan Reilly gives a context to county stats, so looks like 21 is bang on the average for the last fortnight:

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1321154473692114947


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭Newtown90


    Got tested yesterday in Cork after a few positive cases found where I work.

    Tested at 11, results at 3 today - negative thankfully but nice swift turn around.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,868 ✭✭✭JohnGreenFan


    Worrying that deaths are high every day now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    Weekly LEA update:

    Listowel: 182 (+20) 634.7 per 100,000 (10th highest nationwide)
    Corca Dhuibhne 8 (-2) 56.4 per 100,000
    Tralee: 105 (+47) 317.8 per 100,000
    Castleisland : 25 (+7) 145.8 per 100,000
    Killarney: 68 (-6) 229 per 100,000
    Kenmare: 25 (-16) 99 per 100,000 (10th lowest nationwide)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 9,396 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ciarrai76


    Weekly LEA update:

    Listowel: 182 (+20) 634.7 per 100,000 (10th highest nationwide)
    Corca Dhuibhne 8 (-2) 56.4 per 100,000
    Tralee: 105 (+47) 317.8 per 100,000
    Castleisland : 25 (+7) 145.8 per 100,000
    Killarney: 68 (-6) 229 per 100,000
    Kenmare: 25 (-16) 99 per 100,000 (10th lowest nationwide)

    big jump for Tralee :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭theboss80


    theguzman wrote: »
    In the Bons Secours or Ballymullen?

    Ballymullen


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