Straight Pride

Ten of Swords wrote: »

The Straight Pride event in Modesto California yesterday turned out to be a bust.

Straight pride attendees were outnumbered 5-1 by counter protestors. The rally was still held and the atmosphere was described as 'tense' but no incidents were reported.

After being unable to secure a public venue for the event the organizers gathered at a private barn outside of the town and then held a protest outside the 'Planned Parenthood' offices (which were closed).


https://www.modbee.com/news/local/article234322637.html

Why would anyone protest against a straight pride march?
The opposite never happens.

tayto lover wrote: »

Why would anyone protest against a straight pride march?
The opposite never happens.

Well it was not that long ago that gay pride parades attracted quite a considerable amount of protest and opposition. Even today, in less enlightened parts of the world, gay prides attract anything from peaceful counter-protects to legal prohibition. I believe there was one held in Serbia just a few years ago, which was followed by a far larger counter-protest afterwards which included a ritualistic 'cleansing of the streets' by the local Orthodox clergy.

As for straight pride in and of itself, I honestly don't see why we should care. They have hardly any support and I'm not sure what the downside is, bunch of straight people getting together and 'shock' having sex! Good heavens, now there's something that's got to be an abomination

punisher5112 wrote: »

Funny how I was in Dublin city carrying out my duty on work and I was stopped by a huge group from the lgbtqxyz group....

They decided to stop traffic on Eden quay and surrounding areas and were absolute scum.....

They even walked out in front of a moving Garda car which the driver had to slam on.... I was driving a bus with a good number on board and no consideration at all I had to do the same..

These tools then sat on the road and stopped us all from proceeding....

I asked why and I was told to fluck off and got abuse off many ..

Lovely group

Go handy, you'll have your eyes scratched out.

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Go handy, you'll have your eyes scratched out.

Meow

Irish Praetorian wrote: »

Well it was not that long ago that gay pride parades attracted quite a considerable amount of protest and opposition. Even today, in less enlightened parts of the world, gay prides attract anything from peaceful counter-protects to legal prohibition. I believe there was one held in Serbia just a few years ago, which was followed by a far larger counter-protest afterwards which included a ritualistic 'cleansing of the streets' by the local Orthodox clergy.

As for straight pride in and of itself, I honestly don't see why we should care. They have hardly any support and I'm not sure what the downside is, bunch of straight people getting together and 'shock' having sex! Good heavens, now there's something that's got to be an abomination

But this wasn’t a Gay Pride parade. I would be of the opinion that gay people wouldn’t care one iota that straight we’re parading. Probably just trouble makers looking for trouble.

I'm not against guy or lesbian by the way I just hate been labelled and then been talked down to by others whatever their agenda.

I'm straight and I think there's something just off about a straight pride march. Similar to a white lives matter/white pride march. There's a reason why there are gay pride and black pride events and straight white people haven't suffered the same prejudices. When these events happen there is a homophobic or racist undertone.

punisher5112 wrote: »

Oh dear lord jebus

Yes? You agree with straight pride events?

Wheety wrote: »

...When these events happen there is a homophobic or racist undertone.

Why would you possibly think that? Ah, okay. Now I see where you're coming from

According to its website, the coalition is protecting traditional gender roles,... and the contributions of whites to Western Civilization from the malevolence of the homosexual movement...
Grundmann has equated the LGBTQ+ community with promoting child molestation

Wheety wrote: »

Yes? You agree with straight pride events?

I don't "agree" or disagree with them. I wouldn't bother attending one. But I'm definitely not going to tell someone they shouldn't express pride in their sexuality. If someone feels they need to express pride, then go for it.

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

In practice I'd imagine that's probably true. So I'd call them out for being homophobes when they do it, rather than the straight pride part.

This is something you'd only say if you didn't understand the significance of gay pride.

Straight people have never had to hide their sexuality and in some cases, live their whole life as a lie. I have friends who are gay and they didn't admit it until they were in their late 20s.

It's great, as a straight person, to not even have to 'come out'. It's just presumed people are straight when they're born.

Zachariah Chilly Mulberry wrote: »

And there you have it ..... Tolerance is only tolerated if you agree with gay agenda...and it is an agenda!

Are you straight? Were you ever beaten up for being straight? Anyone ever shout 'Hetero' at you and spit at you?

What tolerance are you missing out on?

Ten of Swords wrote: »

then held a protest outside the 'Planned Parenthood' offices

This tells me all I need to know about their organisation, tbh!

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

But really stright pride is nothing to do with pride in heterosexuality at all. Its about hatred towards lgbt people.

If they behave that way then I'd call then out on that and oppose it. But opposing the straight pride is missing the point.

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

No its not. Straight Pride is more or less just a hatefest.

Why not just oppose the hate?

If some gay people were asholes at a gay pride event, I wouldn't oppose gay pride. Id oppose the ashole behaviour.

Wheety wrote: »

Are you straight? Were you ever beaten up for being straight? Anyone ever shout 'Hetero' at you and spit at you?

What tolerance are you missing out on?

Actually yes.... I was actually tortured going through school....

punisher5112 wrote: »

Actually yes.... I was actually tortured going through school....

You were beaten and tortured vecause you were straight?

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I think that's going too far. If we can wave away the legitimacy of the entire event, then someone else can wave away the legitimacy of gay pride because the event is merely [insert reason].

I'm more concerned with actual bad behaviour.

Come on now. You can't be that naive. Gay pride is about acceptance and tolerance of gay people. Straight people have never had the same problems with being accepted for their sexuality.

Straight Pride would be like a White Pride march. It's not about being proud of being straight, but is purely a reaction against gay pride.

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Can someone please answer something for me? I don't want to start an argument, I have no interest in one.

Why is it OK for someone to be "proud" to be gay yet not OK for someone to be "proud" to be straight?

If I was to attend a straight pride parade (which I never would, I'm straight, big deal) I would be dragged over the coals for that decision yet if I was to slate a gay man attending a gay pride parade I would be called every name under the sun.

Are you proud to be straight?

Wheety wrote: »

Come on now. You can't be that naive. Gay pride is about acceptance and tolerance of gay people. Straight people have never had the same problems with being accepted for their sexuality.

Straight Pride would be like a White Pride march. It's not about being proud of being straight, but is purely a reaction against gay pride.

Back up the truck. Who said you have to have problems being accepted to have pride in something? Are you seriously willing to tell a straight person they ought not have pride in their sexuality? That's precisely the wrong approach as far as I'm concerned.

I wouldn't attend a straight pride event. But there's absolutely no way i would presume to stand In judgement of whether someone else ought to have pride in an important aspect of themselves or not. That's actually a very regressive attitude and i wouldn't encourage it or it would put gay pride back in the firing line because someone else thinks gay people ought not be proud of their sexuality.

I don't make pride dependant on experiencing difficulties. Why do you do that?

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Because being proud of being Gay is more so down to not being ashamed of it or not allowing society to tell you that you are wrong, disgusting etc - all the things society has said over time.

Being straight has never been a target of abuse. Being White isn't a target of abuse. You've never had to hide being either. So there is no need to be vocal about being either, you aren't claiming back an identity from people who would try to murder you over it. You aren't claiming equality from people who would deny it of you. You are not fighting discrimination on the basis of who you are or who you love.

Shame, wrong and disgusting are all things that were applied to straight people by the religious in Ireland. If you didn't conform to their ideals you could be punished socially.

Im actually pretty disappointed to see people pretend that the only forms of punishment that matters is those against gay people. Having sex or a child out side marriage came with great social punishment. The term 'scarlet woman' or just slut.

I'll continue to support gay pride whether a gay person supports me having pride in my sexuality or not. (Not suggesting gay people need my support specifically). But I'm actually pretty disappointed that someone else would dismiss the notion of pride in my sexuality because it didn't experience the exact same discrimination homosexuality experienced.

I don't have to argue that the discrimination is the same (and I don't) and I don't even argue that pride is dependant on discrimination. If someone is proud of something and they do no harm on account of it, then go for it and enjoy yourselves, right?