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Straight Pride

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  • 25-08-2019 5:51pm
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    Ten of Swords
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    The Straight Pride event in Modesto California yesterday turned out to be a bust.

    Straight pride attendees were outnumbered 5-1 by counter protestors. The rally was still held and the atmosphere was described as 'tense' but no incidents were reported.

    After being unable to secure a public venue for the event the organizers gathered at a private barn outside of the town and then held a protest outside the 'Planned Parenthood' offices (which were closed).


    https://www.modbee.com/news/local/article234322637.html

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    branie2
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    ouch!


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    tayto lover
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    Ten of Swords wrote: »
    The Straight Pride event in Modesto California yesterday turned out to be a bust.

    Straight pride attendees were outnumbered 5-1 by counter protestors. The rally was still held and the atmosphere was described as 'tense' but no incidents were reported.

    After being unable to secure a public venue for the event the organizers gathered at a private barn outside of the town and then held a protest outside the 'Planned Parenthood' offices (which were closed).


    https://www.modbee.com/news/local/article234322637.html

    Why would anyone protest against a straight pride march?
    The opposite never happens.


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    punisher5112
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    Why would anyone protest against a straight pride march?
    The opposite never happens.

    Mad isn't it but straight people are now been told how they can and can't live or have a voice.


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    Irish Praetorian
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    Why would anyone protest against a straight pride march?
    The opposite never happens.

    Well it was not that long ago that gay pride parades attracted quite a considerable amount of protest and opposition. Even today, in less enlightened parts of the world, gay prides attract anything from peaceful counter-protects to legal prohibition. I believe there was one held in Serbia just a few years ago, which was followed by a far larger counter-protest afterwards which included a ritualistic 'cleansing of the streets' by the local Orthodox clergy.

    As for straight pride in and of itself, I honestly don't see why we should care. They have hardly any support and I'm not sure what the downside is, bunch of straight people getting together and 'shock' having sex! Good heavens, now there's something that's got to be an abomination :D


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    punisher5112
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    Funny how I was in Dublin city carrying out my duty on work and I was stopped by a huge group from the lgbtqxyz group....

    They decided to stop traffic on Eden quay and surrounding areas and were absolute scum.....

    They even walked out in front of a moving Garda car which the driver had to slam on.... I was driving a bus with a good number on board and no consideration at all I had to do the same..

    These tools then sat on the road and stopped us all from proceeding....

    I asked why and I was told to fluck off and got abuse off many ..

    Lovely group


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    RocketRaccoon
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Funny how I was in Dublin city carrying out my duty on work and I was stopped by a huge group from the lgbtqxyz group....

    They decided to stop traffic on Eden quay and surrounding areas and were absolute scum.....

    They even walked out in front of a moving Garda car which the driver had to slam on.... I was driving a bus with a good number on board and no consideration at all I had to do the same..

    These tools then sat on the road and stopped us all from proceeding....

    I asked why and I was told to fluck off and got abuse off many ..

    Lovely group

    Go handy, you'll have your eyes scratched out.


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    Ten of Swords
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    Irish Praetorian wrote: »
    Well it was not that long ago that gay pride parades attracted quite a considerable amount of protest and opposition. Even today, in less enlightened parts of the world, gay prides attract anything from peaceful counter-protects to legal prohibition. I believe there was one held in Serbia just a few years ago, which was followed by a far larger counter-protest afterwards which included a ritualistic 'cleansing of the streets' by the local Orthodox clergy.

    There was one a month ago in Bialystok Poland

    https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2019/0720/1064279-polish-gay-pride-marchers-defy-hooligans/

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    donkeykong5
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Funny how I was in Dublin city carrying out my duty on work and I was stopped by a huge group from the lgbtqxyz group....

    They decided to stop traffic on Eden quay and surrounding areas and were absolute scum.....

    They even walked out in front of a moving Garda car which the driver had to slam on.... I was driving a bus with a good number on board and no consideration at all I had to do the same..

    These tools then sat on the road and stopped us all from proceeding....

    I asked why and I was told to fluck off and got abuse off many ..

    Lovely group
    Was Cleo there ?


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    punisher5112
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    donkeykong5 wrote: »
    Was Cleo there ?

    Leo may have been.... Many had face masks pulled over their faces....

    Scum bags they were


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    punisher5112
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    RocketRaccoon wrote: »
    Go handy, you'll have your eyes scratched out.

    Meow


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    branie2
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    RocketRaccoon wrote: »
    Go handy, you'll have your eyes scratched out.

    Or get hit by a handbag!


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    Ten of Swords
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    Mod

    Keep it civil

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    Diceicle
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    Protesting the straight pride march, like protesting a gay-pride march, seems a bit intolerant.


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    tayto lover
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    Irish Praetorian wrote: »
    Well it was not that long ago that gay pride parades attracted quite a considerable amount of protest and opposition. Even today, in less enlightened parts of the world, gay prides attract anything from peaceful counter-protects to legal prohibition. I believe there was one held in Serbia just a few years ago, which was followed by a far larger counter-protest afterwards which included a ritualistic 'cleansing of the streets' by the local Orthodox clergy.

    As for straight pride in and of itself, I honestly don't see why we should care. They have hardly any support and I'm not sure what the downside is, bunch of straight people getting together and 'shock' having sex! Good heavens, now there's something that's got to be an abomination :D

    But this wasn’t a Gay Pride parade. I would be of the opinion that gay people wouldn’t care one iota that straight we’re parading. Probably just trouble makers looking for trouble.


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    El_Duderino 09
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    I can't really see why someone would bother protesting a straight pride event. I wouldn't bother attending it either. But if someone wants to express pride in their sexuality then have at it, right?


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    punisher5112
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    I'm not against guy or lesbian by the way I just hate been labelled and then been talked down to by others whatever their agenda.


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    Ten of Swords
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    The rally went ahead without incident, nobody's views were suppressed. I would guess, however, that the counter protestors were not satisfied with the views and objectives of the straight pride rally as per it's organizer Don Grundmann.

    From the article in the op,
    Grundmann’s message is embodied in the National Straight Pride Coalition he started about four months ago. The coalition’s California chapter has 42 members on its Facebook page.

    According to its website, the coalition is protecting traditional gender roles, Christianity, heterosexuality, Western Civilization, babies, and the contributions of whites to Western Civilization from the malevolence of the homosexual movement...

    ...Grundmann has equated the LGBTQ+ community with promoting child molestation and has said that is not hate speech but accurate speech. He has been fighting the culture wars for decades through such groups he has formed as Citizens Against Perversion and American Warrior Ministry.

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    Wheety
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    I'm straight and I think there's something just off about a straight pride march. Similar to a white lives matter/white pride march. There's a reason why there are gay pride and black pride events and straight white people haven't suffered the same prejudices. When these events happen there is a homophobic or racist undertone.


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    punisher5112
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    Wheety wrote: »
    I'm straight and I think there's something just off about a straight pride march. Similar to a white lives matter/white pride march. There's a reason why there are gay pride and black pride events and straight white people haven't suffered the same prejudices. When these events happen there is a homophobic or racist undertone.

    Oh dear lord jebus


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    Wheety
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Oh dear lord jebus

    Yes? You agree with straight pride events?


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    Dj Stiggie
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    Wheety wrote: »
    I'm straight and I think there's something just off about a straight pride march. Similar to a white lives matter/white pride march. There's a reason why there are gay pride and black pride events and straight white people haven't suffered the same prejudices. When these events happen there is a homophobic or racist undertone.

    I'm with you on this and I'm straight too. Gay Pride is about inclusivity, and in the daytime is an event that people can bring their kids to. It's about tolerence, and an expression of how far we've come socially.

    This 'Straight Pride' group went and protested a closed Planned Parenthood office. What does that achieve besides showing their true colours as a hate group?

    Also, there's a lot of 'I'm not a homophobe, but...' comments in this thread. Which also shows why we should continue to celebrate Gay Pride.


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    donegal_man
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    Wheety wrote: »
    ...When these events happen there is a homophobic or racist undertone.

    Why would you possibly think that? Ah, okay. Now I see where you're coming from
    According to its website, the coalition is protecting traditional gender roles,... and the contributions of whites to Western Civilization from the malevolence of the homosexual movement...
    Grundmann has equated the LGBTQ+ community with promoting child molestation


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    Augme
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    Let's be honest here, 99% chance anyone who goes to a straight pride event is a massive idiot and a homophobe.


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    El_Duderino 09
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    Wheety wrote: »
    Yes? You agree with straight pride events?

    I don't "agree" or disagree with them. I wouldn't bother attending one. But I'm definitely not going to tell someone they shouldn't express pride in their sexuality. If someone feels they need to express pride, then go for it.


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    El_Duderino 09
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    Augme wrote: »
    Let's be honest here, 99% chance anyone who goes to a straight pride event is a massive idiot and a homophobe.

    In practice I'd imagine that's probably true. So I'd call them out for being homophobes when they do it, rather than the straight pride part.


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    Diceicle wrote: »
    Protesting the straight pride march, like protesting a gay-pride march, seems a bit intolerant.

    And there you have it ..... Tolerance is only tolerated if you agree with gay agenda...and it is an agenda!


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    Annasopra
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    Why would anyone protest against a straight pride march?
    The opposite never happens.

    Yeah it does!!!!!!!!

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    Wheety
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    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    In practice I'd imagine that's probably true. So I'd call them out for being homophobes when they do it, rather than the straight pride part.

    This is something you'd only say if you didn't understand the significance of gay pride.

    Straight people have never had to hide their sexuality and in some cases, live their whole life as a lie. I have friends who are gay and they didn't admit it until they were in their late 20s.

    It's great, as a straight person, to not even have to 'come out'. It's just presumed people are straight when they're born.


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    Annasopra
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    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    I don't "agree" or disagree with them. I wouldn't bother attending one. But I'm definitely not going to tell someone they shouldn't express pride in their sexuality. If someone feels they need to express pride, then go for it.

    But really stright pride is nothing to do with pride in heterosexuality at all. Its about hatred towards lgbt people.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    Wheety
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    Zachariah Chilly Mulberry wrote: »
    And there you have it ..... Tolerance is only tolerated if you agree with gay agenda...and it is an agenda!

    Are you straight? Were you ever beaten up for being straight? Anyone ever shout 'Hetero' at you and spit at you?

    What tolerance are you missing out on?


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