Let's all talk about Lewis?

ctrl-alt-delete · 13-09-2020 9:36pm

Burkie1203 wrote: »

A ferrari team photo to celebrate 1000 races was posted on SM earlier. Hamilton stuck the boot in "still no diversity". He later deleted it. Really wish he would fcuk off.

The Social justice warrior has no problem promoting Petronas though

and yet the horse has always been black,

Except it is Lewis prancing about.

I wonder is he trying to line up a drive at Ferrari for 2022

Man with broke phone · 13-09-2020 11:07pm

Breonna Taylor was an EMT. It doesnt seem to be established whether she was employed at the time or not but alot of sources call her a former EMT.

Her ex boyfriend was a known drug dealer who police intelligence had noted got packages delivered to her address. He was seen taking delivery of these packages and seen driving directly to houses that sold drugs.

After she split up with this guy he was still seen on occasion frequenting her property.

The police got a warrant to search his house, her house and a few other houses. They got a no knock warrant which means they can turn up and smash the door in with no warning. They did however shout and knock and give plenty of warning before they came in the door.

When they came in the door the boyfriend of the lady on Lewis Hamiltons shirt opened fire on the police and shot one officer in the leg. They lit up the room hitting Breyonna 8 times. Their training does not tell them to shoot the gun out of peoples hands or to use lassos to trick the shooter. They are told to make sure they get home safe. Aim at the centre of the body and empty their clip.

Judge Lewis Hamilton has decided that because his car is faster than everybody elses he should be able to decide who should go to jail based on what the dead persons skin colour is.

Gaoth Laidir · 13-09-2020 11:24pm

Man with broke phone wrote: »

Breonna Taylor was an EMT. It doesnt seem to be established whether she was employed at the time or not but alot of sources call her a former EMT.

Her ex boyfriend was a known drug dealer who police intelligence had noted got packages delivered to her address. He was seen taking delivery of these packages and seen driving directly to houses that sold drugs.

After she split up with this guy he was still seen on occasion frequenting her property.

The police got a warrant to search his house, her house and a few other houses. They got a no knock warrant which means they can turn up and smash the door in with no warning. They did however shout and knock and give plenty of warning before they came in the door.

When they came in the door the boyfriend of the lady on Lewis Hamiltons shirt opened fire on the police and shot one officer in the leg. They lit up the room hitting Breyonna 8 times. Their training does not tell them to shoot the gun out of peoples hands or to use lassos to trick the shooter. They are told to make sure they get home safe. Aim at the centre of the body and empty their clip.

Judge Lewis Hamilton has decided that because his car is faster than everybody elses he should be able to decide who should go to jail based on what the dead persons skin colour is.

Someone replied to his tweet above with this one, asking him to comment.

https://twitter.com/King_Leo_27/status/1305192312969015296

Anjobe · 14-09-2020 8:41am

Man with broke phone wrote: »

Breonna Taylor was an EMT. It doesnt seem to be established whether she was employed at the time or not but alot of sources call her a former EMT.

Her ex boyfriend was a known drug dealer who police intelligence had noted got packages delivered to her address. He was seen taking delivery of these packages and seen driving directly to houses that sold drugs.

After she split up with this guy he was still seen on occasion frequenting her property.

The police got a warrant to search his house, her house and a few other houses. They got a no knock warrant which means they can turn up and smash the door in with no warning. They did however shout and knock and give plenty of warning before they came in the door.

When they came in the door the boyfriend of the lady on Lewis Hamiltons shirt opened fire on the police and shot one officer in the leg. They lit up the room hitting Breyonna 8 times. Their training does not tell them to shoot the gun out of peoples hands or to use lassos to trick the shooter. They are told to make sure they get home safe. Aim at the centre of the body and empty their clip.

Judge Lewis Hamilton has decided that because his car is faster than everybody elses he should be able to decide who should go to jail based on what the dead persons skin colour is.

This is essentially the police version of the events. It is widely disbelieved, even by prosecutors who dismissed the charge of attempted murder against Kenneth Walker. The police report into the incident was full of errors and inconsistencies, it stated that they did not use force to enter the apartment and listed Breonna Taylor's injuries as "none". Also, police training does not tell them to spray a ridiculous number of rounds blindly into a dark room with complete disregard for the lives of anyone who might have been in there. No shot was "aimed at the centre of the body" here.

No knock warrants are controversial anyway, and have now been banned in Kentucky, but executing one in the middle of the night after having dismissed the ambulance that police policy requires to be in attendance is beyond controversial. There are good reasons for believing that the police did not behave entirely correctly that night, and that that led to the death of an innocent person, and that this would not have happened if the "suspects" had not been black.

I actually agree that the F1 grid is not the appropriate place to be making such an overtly political statement, but there is a point here that if the argument is made in a way that will not antagonize or offend anyone then no one will listen.

Gaoth Laidir · 14-09-2020 9:09am

Anjobe wrote: »

This is essentially the police version of the events. It is widely disbelieved, even by prosecutors who dismissed the charge of attempted murder against Kenneth Walker. The police report into the incident was full of errors and inconsistencies, it stated that they did not use force to enter the apartment and listed Breonna Taylor's injuries as "none". Also, police training does not tell them to spray a ridiculous number of rounds blindly into a dark room with complete disregard for the lives of anyone who might have been in there. No shot was "aimed at the centre of the body" here.

No knock warrants are controversial anyway, and have now been banned in Kentucky, but executing one in the middle of the night after having dismissed the ambulance that police policy requires to be in attendance is beyond controversial. There are good reasons for believing that the police did not behave entirely correctly that night, and that that led to the death of an innocent person, and that this would not have happened if the "suspects" had not been black.

I actually agree that the F1 grid is not the appropriate place to be making such an overtly political statement, but there is a point here that if the argument is made in a way that will not antagonize or offend anyone then no one will listen.

That bit. Where is your evidence for this statement? Are you saying they broke down the door and went in shooting because they knew there was a black woman in there? Ridiculous.

Anjobe · 14-09-2020 9:18am

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

Someone replied to his tweet above with this one, asking him to comment.

https://twitter.com/King_Leo_27/status/1305192312969015296

Shooting the cops was a terrible crime and we can only hope that the perpetrator is caught quickly. If it was done as revenge for the black lives lost at the hands of law enforcement officers it was also completely stupid. Inflaming the current anti-racism protests into a black vs white thing will doom them to failure. The whole point of the taking a knee gesture before sporting events is that, if everyone does it, it sends a message of coming together to oppose racial injustice and inequality.

There is a thoughtful article here (https://the-race.com/formula-1/the-biggest-misconceptions-over-hamiltons-racism-stance/) about Hamilton's anti-racism stance.

Gaoth Laidir · 14-09-2020 9:20am

Anjobe wrote: »

Shooting the cops was a terrible crime and we can only hope that the perpetrator is caught quickly. If it was done as revenge for the black lives lost at the hands of law enforcement officers it was also completely stupid. Inflaming the current anti-racism protests into a black vs white thing will doom them to failure. The whole point of the taking a knee gesture before sporting events is that, if everyone does it, it sends a message of coming together to oppose racial injustice and inequality.

There is a thoughtful article here (https://the-race.com/formula-1/the-biggest-misconceptions-over-hamiltons-racism-stance/) about Hamilton's anti-racism stance.

That article was written well over two months ago. A lot has changed since then. He stooped to a new low yesterday.

flazio · 14-09-2020 9:24am

It's a new day and guess what? Nothing has changed, injustice still exists. Lewis only has as much power as we give him. The outcry AGAINST his actions is probably exactly what he wanted. Get people talking again. His actions will only ruin the sport if we let it. Just ignore him.

Anjobe · 14-09-2020 9:26am

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

That bit. Where is your evidence for this statement? Are you saying they broke down the door and went in shooting because they knew there was a black woman in there? Ridiculous.

Your right, its just a belief, but one held by a very large number people. Do you believe that the police actually behaved appropriately there? This isn't really about single incident though is it, picking out individuals is a good way to highlight the issue that innocent people losing their lives at the hands of law enforcement are disproportionately BAME.

Anjobe · 14-09-2020 9:29am

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

That article was written well over two months ago. A lot has changed since then. He stooped to a new low yesterday.

Several nonsense arguments still being used against Hamilton on this thread are neatly skewered in that article, it is still relevant. Sadly, as far as the issues highlighted by Lewis is concerned, nothing has changed in a very long time.

Gaoth Laidir · 14-09-2020 11:48am

Anjobe wrote: »

Your right, its just a belief, but one held by a very large number people. Do you believe that the police actually behaved appropriately there? This isn't really about single incident though is it, picking out individuals is a good way to highlight the issue that innocent people losing their lives at the hands of law enforcement are disproportionately BAME.

There are also beliefs held by a large number of people that you shouldn't wear masks or that governments are spraying us with chemtrails, it doesn't mean they're right. Lewis did make it about a single incident yesterday, using a platform from which he earns upwards of 100 million a year to act as judge and jury.

Frank Bullitt · 14-09-2020 7:58pm

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/54152046

Formula 1 bosses are looking into whether Lewis Hamilton broke rules at the Tuscan Grand Prix by wearing a T-shirt highlighting police brutality.

I think this was to be expected.

SureYWouldntYa · 14-09-2020 8:01pm

Gintonious wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/54152046

I think this was to be expected.

70 point deduction fair?

Gaoth Laidir · 14-09-2020 8:12pm

Gintonious wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/54152046

I think this was to be expected.

He will, of course, get away with it.

Frank Bullitt · 14-09-2020 8:21pm

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

He will, of course, get away with it.

Chances are, FIA will say "no more of this", he will not be happy and kick up a fuss maybe. Which he will enjoy.

afatbollix · 14-09-2020 8:29pm

The rules say, No political messages on the car not what they wear.

A local car couldn't start Rally Ireland when it was here as they had 'Jesus saves us all' on the windscreen and choose to not start instead of taking it off saying they had ran with it for years in the local rallies.

Ken Block was also told to take off a 'OBAMA CAN'T GYMKHANA' sticker off his car.

And in F2 in 2016 some yank wanted to stick a Make America great again sticker on the car but was told not too.

At the end of the day we just want to see them go fast not what they think.

Rodney Bathgate · 14-09-2020 8:44pm

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

70 point deduction fair?

Disqualification from this year’s championship and all his previous results null and void going back to 2007.

Gaoth Laidir · 14-09-2020 8:52pm

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Disqualification from this year’s championship and all his previous results null and void going back to 2007.

Do a Lance Armstrong on him!

Rodney Bathgate · 14-09-2020 8:58pm

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

Do a Lance Armstrong on him!

Erase him from history.

selectamatic · 14-09-2020 9:00pm

afatbollix wrote: »

The rules say, No political messages on the car not what they wear.

A local car couldn't start Rally Ireland when it was here as they had 'Jesus saves us all' on the windscreen and choose to not start instead of taking it off saying they had ran with it for years in the local rallies.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/motor-sport/driver-forced-to-remove-jesus-slogan-from-car-before-circuit-of-ireland-race-30202949.html

He blocked it out to take part but the car suffered a failure and he had to retire. And the main problem was that the rally was a leg of the European championship also so the rules were stricter.

Well remembered though, I had forgotten completely about that incident always thought it was kind of a harsh decision because he wasn't trying to be deliberately inflamatory with it but rules are rules.

Would there be rules around bringing the sport into disrepute that'd be applicable to Lewis? Surely he can't use the f1 platform to declare absolutes about an ongoing case which is clearly much less clearcut than how he is portraying.

Man with broke phone · 14-09-2020 9:02pm

What if we just get some random dude to wear a t shirt outling Lewis Hamiltons punishment. Maybe the winner of the next Moto GP.

rock22 · 15-09-2020 8:26am

The anti BLM comments here speak so loudly about why Lewis needs to continue highlighting these issues.

chopperbyrne · 15-09-2020 8:45am

Yep, the t-shirt had her picture on the back with text saying "Say her name"

The front said "Arrest the cops who killed Breonna Taylor".

According to some here, he's judge and jury, and said kill the cops who killed her.

Boards is reflective of Ireland, and Ireland has huge racism issues.

Gaoth Laidir · 15-09-2020 11:23am

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Yep, the t-shirt had her picture on the back with text saying "Say her name"

The front said "Arrest the cops who killed Breonna Taylor".

According to some here, he's judge and jury, and said kill the cops who killed her.

Boards is reflective of Ireland, and Ireland has huge racism issues.

Who said he had said "kill" the cops? I missed that comment.

Man with broke phone · 15-09-2020 11:51am

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Yep, the t-shirt had her picture on the back with text saying "Say her name"

The front said "Arrest the cops who killed Breonna Taylor".

According to some here, he's judge and jury, and said kill the cops who killed her.

Boards is reflective of Ireland, and Ireland has huge racism issues.

Boards hasnt been reflective of Ireland in decades. There is nothing racist about wanting to allow the police due process when they have to shoot people in line of duty. Read up on the case in question.
The protestors were wrecking pensylvania last night because a black guy got shot running at police with a big knife on camera. He was out on bail awaiting trial for stabbing 4 people last year. Is not backing these protestors racist?

ThewhiteJesus · 15-09-2020 11:54am

I’m a big fan of Lewis the driver and actually the man himself a lot of times but he’s ruining his legacy with this militant stuff, sport should be about sport, not poppies or blm or any other in topic on social media

Anjobe · 15-09-2020 12:21pm

FIA investigation into the Breonna Taylor t-shirt over before it even began:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/54161846.

Richard Hillman · 15-09-2020 1:28pm

I think Hamilton is trying to get himself Blackballed like Colin Kaepernick. He's 35, he's out of contract soon and surely Mercedes realise they can win without him and with a much cheaper driver. There has also been a lot of talk lately about Mercedes dodgy past. Not good for business.

Red Bull won't touch him with the owner being critical of him, Ferrari probably wouldnt go there and then the other teams will have him coming into their teams demanding things like Diversity Quotas and promoting political campaigns.

Groups like Mercedes, Alfa Romeo, Ferrari etc. Their target market isn't exactly the woke crowd. It's middle aged white men and they know that.

Being Blackballed in sport can be very lucrative if you have the right profile, as Colin Kaepernick found out.

Gaoth Laidir · 15-09-2020 1:39pm

Mercedes F1 boss Toto Wolff said on Saturday that Hamilton had the organisation's full support in his desire to highlight racial injustice and that it was up to him what T-shirts he wished to wear to demonstrate that.

"No question - it is entirely his decision," Wolff said. "Whatever he does, we will support. The team is fighting against any kind of racism and discrimination and it is Lewis's personal fight for Black Lives Matter and with all the support we can give him. It's his call."

So you go off and do whatever you want, Lewis. Here are some toys and a pram.

SureYWouldntYa · 15-09-2020 2:16pm

If Merc were to decide for next year that their car is so dominant that any competent driver would win in their car, would then love to be a fly on the wall for contract negotiations with Lewis and his team, be a serious game of cat and mouse

In reality they’ll stick with whats safe in Lewis unless his demands are ridiculous

Killinator · 15-09-2020 2:22pm

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I think Hamilton is trying to get himself Blackballed like Colin Kaepernick. He's 35, he's out of contract soon and surely Mercedes realise they can win without him and with a much cheaper driver. There has also been a lot of talk lately about Mercedes dodgy past. Not good for business.

Red Bull won't touch him with the owner being critical of him, Ferrari probably wouldnt go there and then the other teams will have him coming into their teams demanding things like Diversity Quotas and promoting political campaigns.

Groups like Mercedes, Alfa Romeo, Ferrari etc. Their target market isn't exactly the woke crowd. It's middle aged white men and they know that.

Being Blackballed in sport can be very lucrative if you have the right profile, as Colin Kaepernick found out.

That's ridiculous!
He's on the cusp of becoming the greatest driver in history (talking from a championship wins perspective, before I get hounded)

He ain't throwing that away by making a martyr of himself for BLM.

Anjobe · 15-09-2020 2:29pm

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

So you go off and do whatever you want, Lewis. Here are some toys and a pram.

Hilarious, plenty of toys being thrown out of the pram here, but not by Hamilton.

Richard Hillman · 15-09-2020 3:37pm

Killinator wrote: »

That's ridiculous!
He's on the cusp of becoming the greatest driver in history (talking from a championship wins perspective, before I get hounded)

He ain't throwing that away by making a martyr of himself for BLM.

He'll get the most race wins record this season and will be joint for most Championships. Roll on for another season. Break the Championship Record and then he can be the martyr.

Leave Mercedes because they wouldn't dance to his tune. Leave himself without a team, knowing that it's too much hassle for the big teams to take him on. The smaller teams will want him but he'll issue demands that can't be met.

He then becomes a martyr. The teams have Blackballed him. The Sports/Fashion brands keep him on the payroll even though he is essentially retired and he becomes a professional activist.

Killinator · 15-09-2020 3:48pm

Richard Hillman wrote: »

He'll get the most race wins record this season and will be joint for most Championships. Roll on for another season. Break the Championship Record and then he can be the martyr.

Leave Mercedes because they wouldn't dance to his tune. Leave himself without a team, knowing that it's too much hassle for the big teams to take him on. The smaller teams will want him but he'll issue demands that can't be met.

He then becomes a martyr. The teams have Blackballed him. The Sports/Fashion brands keep him on the payroll even though he is essentially retired and he becomes a professional activist.

I don't see it. I see him as the kind of guy who not only wants to be the record holder but wants to make it so his records are unassailable in the future.
And nothing has really indicated anything other than Merc bending to his wishes. There's enough proof with Bottas that the 'any old driver will do it in a Merc' belief is false. I wouldn't rely on Bottas to secure a championship. Any of the other top drivers like Max or Charles would cost a fortune anyway and don't have the brand recognition Lewis brings to Merc.
It suits all parties involved to keep him.

You can say what you like about him but Lewis is a bloody dedicated driver, he's been driving since he was a child and didn't get selected by McLaren or Merc for no reason.
For these top sports people it's an addiction, you don't throw away a career like that willy nilly and certainly not for a few social media shares and likes.

Inquitus · 17-09-2020 4:39pm

What's the point of this thread, lets be obnoxious to Lewis, question all his achievements and hate on him as much as possible? I though boards was better than this. He's far from my favourite driver but this thread is far too OTT.

17-09-2020 4:51pm

Inquitus wrote: »

What's the point of this thread, lets be obnoxious to Lewis, question all his achievements and hate on him as much as possible? I though boards was better than this. He's far from my favourite driver but this thread is far too OTT.

You're absolutely correct but wasting your time unfortunately.

ThewhiteJesus · 17-09-2020 4:53pm

it's his recent militant actions that have let him down imo, nothing to do with his driving, how could there be, he's clearly the best in this type of car.

Killinator · 17-09-2020 5:08pm

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

it's his recent militant actions that have let him down imo, nothing to do with his driving, how could there be, he's clearly the best in this type of car.

This thread is 2 years old so no, it's not about his recent militant actions!
There seems to be an inherent dislike of him by some that goes way beyond the norm.

ThewhiteJesus · 17-09-2020 5:16pm

Killinator wrote: »

This thread is 2 years old so no, it's not about his recent militant actions!
There seems to be an inherent dislike of him by some that goes way beyond the norm.

i did say in my opinion, so let me guess you think it's because he's black ?
He's a divisive character, always has been, always will be.
For the record i am a fan, well i was until recently as outlined above.

Killinator · 17-09-2020 5:23pm

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

i did say in my opinion, so let me guess you think it's because he's black ?
He's a divisive character, always has been, always will be.
For the record i am a fan, well i was until recently as outlined above.

Ha, nice attempt. I never mentioned his skin colour but if that's the first thing that pops into your head then fair enough.
I'm a fan too but I'd don't like some things he says or does or wears, but the difference is I wouldn't come into a thread criticising him for wearing a hair tie or having an assistant.

I just don't know why so many (here included) get sooo riled up about him negatively, he doesn't do much that the others don't do that I can see.
And as I said, this thread is 2 years old so it wasn't started because of his BLM beliefs or actions.
He does come across as a d*ck sometimes but then I'd be hard pressed to pick a single driver on the grid who doesn't, hell most of Kimi's radio conversations seem to be him being an absolute boll*x to his engineer but everyone loves it.
Now genuinely, imagine if Lewis told his engineer to 'shut up, he knew what he was doing'. This thread would have another few hundred posts!

Man with broke phone · 17-09-2020 5:24pm

I think him and his brands and his politics are being forced upon us.

When Vettel was winning people began to dislike him too but atleast he didnt speak like Jedward, coreograph every movement to sell us something and get behind a movement that is rioting across america every night because it doesnt like the voting system in place

Killinator · 17-09-2020 5:27pm

Man with broke phone wrote: »

I think him and his brands and his politics are being forced upon us.

When Vettel was winning people began to dislike him too but atleast he didnt speak like Jedward, coreograph every movement to sell us something and get behind a movement that is rioting across america every night because it doesnt like the voting system in place

Can you clarify how him and his brands are forced on us?
I don't own anything he pushes and don't see him from race weekend to race weekend.
BLM is being pushed everywhere so that's not a lewis exclusive

rock22 · 17-09-2020 5:56pm

Man with broke phone wrote: »

I think him and his brands and his politics are being forced upon us.

When Vettel was winning people began to dislike him too but atleast he didnt speak like Jedward, coreograph every movement to sell us something and get behind a movement that is rioting across america every night because it doesnt like the voting system in place

Are you seriously saying that we, all of us, should not support the BLM movement ?

donspeekinglesh · 17-09-2020 6:27pm

Inquitus wrote: »

What's the point of this thread, lets be obnoxious to Lewis, question all his achievements and hate on him as much as possible? I though boards was better than this. He's far from my favourite driver but this thread is far too OTT.

It keeps it in one place and stops it infecting every other thread. Sometimes

Man with broke phone · 17-09-2020 6:31pm

rock22 wrote: »

Are you seriously saying that we, all of us, should not support the BLM movement ?

What do you know about its inner workings ideologies, fund raising and money spending?

RurtBeynolds · 17-09-2020 6:44pm

Man with broke phone wrote: »

I think him and his brands and his politics are being forced upon us.

When Vettel was winning people began to dislike him too but atleast he didnt speak like Jedward, coreograph every movement to sell us something and get behind a movement that is rioting across america every night because it doesnt like the voting system in place

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/05/nearly-all-black-lives-matter-protests-are-peaceful-despite-trump-narrative-report-finds

You're being a tad dismissive of the cause of the BLM, it's hardly because they 'don't like the voting system'.

One would be forgiven for thinking you might have an issue with black people.

Man with broke phone · 17-09-2020 7:07pm

RurtBeynolds wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/05/nearly-all-black-lives-matter-protests-are-peaceful-despite-trump-narrative-report-finds

You're being a tad dismissive of the cause of the BLM, it's hardly because they 'don't like the voting system'.

One would be forgiven for thinking you might have an issue with black people.

I think Bob Marleys great, Marcus Rashford is doing stellar work getting poor kids full bellies in England, Steel Pulse I have alot of time for,Wan Bissaka is a hero of mine, Patrice Evra, Paul Pogba, I like when David McGoldrick is in the Irish team, Edgar Davids, off the top of my head, funnily enough I dont have a problem with these people who happen to be black.

None of them talk like Jedward, try sell us something whenever they are on tv, live a pretend life selling us everything in the picture, have a blond girl bashing the knees off herself trying to carry his scooter while he puts a bobbin in his hair, or ask the mob to arrest police officers without a trial or the facts of the case.

Killinator · 17-09-2020 7:25pm

Man with broke phone wrote: »

I think Bob Marleys great, Marcus Rashford is doing stellar work getting poor kids full bellies in England, Steel Pulse I have alot of time for,Wan Bissaka is a hero of mine, Patrice Evra, Paul Pogba, I like when David McGoldrick is in the Irish team, Edgar Davids, off the top of my head, funnily enough I dont have a problem with these people who happen to be black.

, try sell us something whenever they are on tv, live a pretend life selling us everything in the picture, have a blond girl bashing the knees off herself trying to carry his scooter while he puts a bobbin in his hair, or ask the mob to arrest police officers without a trial or the facts of the case.

Riiiight except alot of that isn't true.
I mean footballers are trying to sell stuff pretty much anytime you see them on tv, be it their Nike or Adidas brands or the sponsors on their shirts or the sponsors at their clubs stadiums as they play. They are as much walking billboards as F1 drivers.

And to believe you've brought Pogba into this and criticised Lewis over his style or assistants is irony at its finest!
Do you criticised Giovinazzi over wearing a hair bobbin? Is it because his assistant is a woman or in general because you can't help but highlight how she is a 'blonde girl'.
Is the scooter the issue, seems a practical way to move around the paddock fast, I've been to many a paddock where they cycle or use a moped. But he can hardly carry it in the car with him!
Lewis supports the following, at a minimum:
Education Africa
Great Ormond Street Hospital
Harlem Children's Zone
Save the Children
The Honeypot Children's Charity
UNICEF

He's also currently promoting the BLM topic as he is a prolific figure in his field and is black at the same time.
Rashford and Pogba both also support BLM, to the point Pogba got a haircut with the BLM logo shaved in!!!!

And in relation to demanding the arrest of those cops, seeing the facts and the fact that the state paid out to the victims family, indicating wrongdoing then it seems fair to arrest them before trial, because everyone arrested for an offence is in fact arrested before they are tried on said allegation. They are hardly going to be arrested after they have been on trial.

So that leaves 'talking like Jedward' but I don't have a clue what that's supposed to mean

Man with broke phone · 17-09-2020 7:42pm

Killinator wrote: »

Riiiight except alot of that isn't true.
I mean footballers are trying to sell stuff pretty much anytime you see them on tv, be it their Nike or Adidas brands or the sponsors on their shirts or the sponsors at their clubs stadiums as they play. They are as much walking billboards as F1 drivers.

And to believe you've brought Pogba into this and criticised Lewis over his style or assistants is irony at its finest!
Do you criticised Giovinazzi over wearing a hair bobbin? Is it because his assistant is a woman or in general because you can't help but highlight how she is a 'blonde girl'.
Is the scooter the issue, seems a practical way to move around the paddock fast, I've been to many a paddock where they cycle or use a moped. But he can hardly carry it in the car with him!
Lewis supports the following, at a minimum:
Education Africa
Great Ormond Street Hospital
Harlem Children's Zone
Save the Children
The Honeypot Children's Charity
UNICEF

He's also currently promoting the BLM topic as he is a prolific figure in his field and is black at the same time.
Rashford and Pogba both also support BLM, to the point Pogba got a haircut with the BLM logo shaved in!!!!

And in relation to demanding the arrest of those cops, seeing the facts and the fact that the state paid out to the victims family, indicating wrongdoing then it seems fair to arrest them before trial, because everyone arrested for an offence is in fact arrested before they are tried on said allegation. They are hardly going to be arrested after they have been on trial.

So that leaves 'talking like Jedward' but I don't have a clue what that's supposed to mean

Funnily enough the footballers dont do this during the 90 minutes I watch them each week. Ive also never seen any of them in the tabloids pretending to have a new mystery girlfriend who we have never seen with him before or after but piles of brands in all the pictures. None of them talk like Jedward.

Killinator · 17-09-2020 8:27pm

Man with broke phone wrote: »

Funnily enough the footballers dont do this during the 90 minutes I watch them each week. Ive also never seen any of them in the tabloids pretending to have a new mystery girlfriend who we have never seen with him before or after but piles of brands in all the pictures. None of them talk like Jedward.

What does 'talk like Jedward' mean'?

So footballers don't advertise over the 90 minutes (apart from shirt sponsors and sports wear) but they do outside of that.
Funnily enough I don't remember Lewis talking about Monster energy or Mercedes saloons while driving around Monza or Mugello while he's in the car racing for 90 odd minutes either, but he does outside of it as he is probably contractually obliged to do.
No idea what the mystery girlfriend is in relation to, link?

Face it, your setting a double standard and criticising him for stuff that the people you look up to are doing too.

I notice you didn't comment on Rashford and Pogba's BLM stance anymore?

Let's all talk about Lewis?

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