When's calving starting 2021

orm0nd · 28-01-2021 7:14am

A week early and we're away.

AAX bull from a FR4338 first calver.

whelan2 · 28-01-2021 7:28am

Was talking to someone who's cows started calving up to 17 days early. Sheds not ready and withdrawal of tubes will be a problem too.

whelan2 · 28-01-2021 7:29am

orm0nd wrote: »

A week early and we're away.

AAX bull from a FR4338 first calver.

2 during the night here. 1 at 2 am and a backwards fr bull at 5.45am. All good. Jacked the backwards one out

greysides · 28-01-2021 10:01am

whelan2 wrote: »

2 during the night here. 1 at 2 am and a backwards fr bull at 5.45am. All good. Jacked the backwards one out

Hints:
Keep the jack level for longer, don't squash the chest. Cows take longer to open so beware going too early, allow arse to dilate the cervix. Only hurry once calf's tail is fully out and even then there's no panic. Calf is already ideally strung to jack to be elevated by levering the jack up using the cow end on the ground.

john mayo 10 · 28-01-2021 10:17am

Had a heifer calf here on Tuesday evening. Bull calf by Zag. I had to jack him out cos she was calfing in an awkward spot and wouldn't get up. Couldn't get him to suck. I stomach tubed him. Got vet yesterday evening. She gave him steroids and a boaster injection. 2 last night and 2 today. He's up and sucking this morning. Thank god

whelan2 · 28-01-2021 9:47pm

See mullinahone have a new cover for the bvd sample. No fiddly cap any more

liosnagceann75 · 28-01-2021 10:05pm

whelan2 wrote: »

See mullinahone have a new cover for the bvd sample. No fiddly cap any more

Old cap was a disaster. New cap is most welcome

jd_12345 · 29-01-2021 1:40pm

FeelTheBern wrote: »

If you’re giving dry cows minerals on the silage and blocks, and the heifers can access it (as opposed to being bullied away by cows) then imagine they should be ok for iodine unless a very severe issue. On the milk fever, heifers usually much better at mobilising calcium from bones than old cows - so would expect it would be your older fatter cows which would have issues as opposed to heifers.

Possible as well that could be an infectious agent - partic if only heifers affected as new to cows - do you vaccinate for Lepto?

As this certainly isn’t normal, my advice would be to get your vet out and follow their advice regarding blood tests etc to try to get to the bottom of it.

Thanks very much for that! Yes heifers vaccinated for Lepto. Rang vets on Wednesday and the one that answered basically said nothing could be done. Had a cow down with milk fever and another heifer that we thought was calving so got them out yesterday. Different vet this time and he threw all possible options at us. Blooded about a quarter of the heifers ( a mix of calved and incalf) and bloods dropped to lab. Also took one of the calves to the lab on Wednesday. Hopefully get results start of next week.
Atm just gone to go in and calve the heifers at the earliest possible opportunity until we get results back and get minerals made up to suit.
The heifers are well conditioned but not overfat I would think. Put it this way I’d be worried if they were a good bit thinner.

Thanks a million for all the responses. Will definitely cut back on the K on silage ground.

jd_12345 · 29-01-2021 2:09pm

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Green hay ad lib if you can get your hands on it. It must be green.
Grass silage with a high inclusion of clover or better still pure clover silage. Both green hay and clover are very heavy with phosphate.

Thanks! I’ll keep an eye out for it!

bogman_bass · 29-01-2021 3:32pm

First calf landed last night. Grand and lively and up and sucking. Bull got her early so another 2 weeks till we start properly

squinn2912 · 30-01-2021 1:36am

Started here now as well. 1/30 the way there! Nice heifer calf with a wee pull. Cow calves herself but she messed about all day doing nothing.

Madisonmenece · 30-01-2021 11:47am

22 Calved

12 Friesian heifers
1 AA heifer
9 Friesian bulls

1 heifer from above was a conventional straw and rest sexed
3 of the bulls were sexed straws

we lost 1 of the 12 heifers, left the heifer/1st lac for 30 mins to progress after handling and came back calf out and gone, would of been granddaughter to cow that done near 800kg solids last year.

lost a set of twins but they were gone a day or so before calving for whatever reason. we have one live set of twins so 21 live calves from 22 calved

whelan2 · 30-01-2021 11:54am

Had a heifer calved this morning. She wasn't supposed to be in calf.. had a fr heifer calf. Reckon it was a fr bull that nearly died about 20 times that I was afraid to squeeze in case he died that put her in calf.

grassroot1 · 30-01-2021 11:58am

Surprise set of twins second calf dead.
6 calved so far 3 have had twins, one cow lay on one of the twins and this mornings disaster.
Ever onward

Limestone Cowboy · 30-01-2021 2:22pm

First one born last night, a little charolais heifer. 2 more for tonight I'd say in calf to the sim.

Mooooo · 30-01-2021 6:38pm

Kicked off here today, 2 calved, both had heifer calves. Closest we've been to the due dates starting in a long time, normally would be a week to 10 days before planned start they'd be landing, only 3 days this year.
Dried off a row of cows as well, will dry off the last of them in 2 weeks time.
Best of luck everyone for the season

Lady Haywire · 30-01-2021 7:38pm

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Cow due the end of December still holding on here
Heard roaring from the shed at 6am (I sleep with the window open) so went down to see what was up. Bull having a field day roaring at a heifer in the pen opposite him. Ass :pac:

Took her til 303 days, nice bull calf, came very CH-ish like the mother, big boney, growthy calf, took a pull on the ropes alright.

Limestone Cowboy · 30-01-2021 9:13pm

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

First one born last night, a little charolais heifer. 2 more for tonight I'd say in calf to the sim.

First sim on the way.

whelan2 · 30-01-2021 9:20pm

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

First sim on the way.

Do you still have the bull that had all the calving difficulties last year?

tanko · 30-01-2021 9:21pm

What's the breeding of your Sim bull?

Limestone Cowboy · 30-01-2021 9:56pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Do you still have the bull that had all the calving difficulties last year?

No I sold him, he wasn't doing much for my mental state.

Limestone Cowboy · 30-01-2021 9:58pm

tanko wrote: »

What's the breeding of your Sim bull?

Bruchag glenfiddich X clonagh direct debit x raceview King. Another one after calving a handy little heifer to him outside there now as well.

tanko · 30-01-2021 10:43pm

He should be easy calved so.

Dunedin · 30-01-2021 10:52pm

Have cow here not eating since Thursday. Her time is up. Had vet Friday morning and he couldn’t see anything wrong with her but still not eating today so I injected to induce her at 12pm today.

Playing the waiting game now.

Limestone Cowboy · 30-01-2021 11:02pm

tanko wrote: »

He should be easy calved so.

So far so good anyway, pulled a handy little bull calf with just the ropes out of the black cow but she'd have had no bother if I left her to it. Hopefully it stays going like this, some difference to winching the calves out of them like last year.

tanko · 30-01-2021 11:16pm

Dunedin wrote: »

Have cow here not eating since Thursday. Her time is up. Had vet Friday morning and he couldn’t see anything wrong with her but still not eating today so I injected to induce her at 12pm today.

Playing the waiting game now.

Did he check her for mastitis?

Dunedin · 30-01-2021 11:27pm

tanko wrote: »

Did he check her for mastitis?

Yep. No mastitis and very minor temperature.

john mayo 10 · 31-01-2021 10:18am

Had a limousine heifer calf yesterday evening. I gave her a saler bull hoping for a heifer and out pops a bull. Good strong lively calf and mad to suck.

Grueller · 31-01-2021 10:34am

16 calved here. 17 calves.

9 fr heifers (4 from sexed semen)
6 fr bulls
1 set of fr twins (1 bull 1 heifer)

tismesoitis · 31-01-2021 11:35am

Grueller wrote: »

16 calved here. 17 calves.

9 fr heifers (4 from sexed semen)
6 fr bulls
1 set of fr twins (1 bull 1 heifer)

Great start!!Some difference with the 2nd calvers coming into the parlour in comparison to last year with all heifers. We in the same boat here.

Lady Haywire · 31-01-2021 11:51am

Dunedin wrote: »

Have cow here not eating since Thursday. Her time is up. Had vet Friday morning and he couldn’t see anything wrong with her but still not eating today so I injected to induce her at 12pm today.

Playing the waiting game now.

Any improvement today? Could she have twins in her?
Did you try getting her to eat ivy?

dzer2 · 31-01-2021 11:54am

10 calved 10 heifers

whelan2 · 31-01-2021 12:07pm

dzer2 wrote: »

10 calved 10 heifers

Sexed?

tismesoitis · 31-01-2021 2:11pm

4 calved since 10 yesterday evening and another 3 dropped on the pins. Just got another couple of hours in bed
34 calved so far.
7 Saler bulls
21 fr heifers (7 by sexed semen)
6 fr bulls (1 by sexed semen)

dzer2 · 31-01-2021 2:15pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Sexed?

No stock bull
Had 31 last yr 24 heifers

Dunedin · 31-01-2021 3:00pm

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Any improvement today? Could she have twins in her?
Did you try getting her to eat ivy?

She’s back eating and drinking this morning which is good. but no no sign of her to pop albeit pins are well dropped.

I went out this morning to get ivy and I caught her eating on the phone so left the ivy in the ditch as fairly wet morning here.

She was chewing the cud away too this morning.

GrasstoMilk · 31-01-2021 3:02pm

40th calved here now, good ratio of bulls to heifers so far

Lady Haywire · 31-01-2021 3:06pm

Dunedin wrote: »

She’s back eating and drinking this morning which is good. but no no sign of her to pop albeit pins are well dropped.

I went out this morning to get ivy and I caught her eating on the phone so left the ivy in the ditch as fairly wet morning here.

She was chewing the cud away too this morning.

Good to hear!

whelan2 · 31-01-2021 8:11pm

6 calves today. Last one there had one leg bent back. Massive fr bull out of fr4728. Missed liverpool's first goal .

Lady Haywire · 31-01-2021 10:07pm

whelan2 wrote: »

6 calves today. Last one there had one leg bent back. Massive fr bull out of fr4728. Missed liverpool's first goal .

Maybe the calf thought he was kicking it

valtra2 · 31-01-2021 10:16pm

Half way point here 25 done 14 bulls 11 hefiers. One fatality. Started the 8th. sick of cows now. Vet called twice for backwards upside down one and hefier with a small jacking but nice to have a vet there.

squinn2912 · 31-01-2021 10:31pm

whelan2 wrote: »

6 calves today. Last one there had one leg bent back. Massive fr bull out of fr4728. Missed liverpool's first goal .

It’s as well Mo had another one for you to see! That was a full day!!

whelan2 · 31-01-2021 10:36pm

squinn2912 wrote: »

It’s as well Mo had another one for you to see! That was a full day!!

Was some goal the second one

squinn2912 · 31-01-2021 10:52pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Was some goal the second one

Two brilliant goals would lift a person out of their hangover good and proper!!

Dunedin · 31-01-2021 11:08pm

Dunedin wrote: »

She’s back eating and drinking this morning which is good. but no no sign of her to pop albeit pins are well dropped.

I went out this morning to get ivy and I caught her eating on the phone so left the ivy in the ditch as fairly wet morning here.

She was chewing the cud away too this morning.

Cow calved at 6pm this evening (during Liverpool match!!). Had a fine lively bull calf and threw him herself so got to see end of the match and then went out to her.

Great results all round.....!! Big game next Sunday now.

tanko · 31-01-2021 11:22pm

Good stuff, did she clean, they often hold the cleaning for a few days when they're induced.

Dunedin · 01-02-2021 8:36am

tanko wrote: »

Good stuff, did she clean, they often hold the cleaning for a few days when they're induced.

Yep. Cleaned afterwards

Lime Tree Farm · 01-02-2021 2:19pm

Do any of you give the cow a bucket full of warm water with salt, after calving supposed to bring on the cleaning.

or when a cow is not showing an interest in her calf, to rub meal onto the wet calf.

Hard Knocks · 01-02-2021 4:41pm

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

Do any of you give the cow a bucket full of warm water with salt, after calving supposed to bring on the cleaning.

or when a cow is not showing an interest in her calf, to rub meal onto the wet calf.

Throw the meal alright, if needed
Generally a first calver

Mac Taylor · 01-02-2021 7:45pm

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

Do any of you give the cow a bucket full of warm water with salt, after calving supposed to bring on the cleaning.

or when a cow is not showing an interest in her calf, to rub meal onto the wet calf.

Use the bucket always......use salt on calf.....meal is too messy for me. Dash of salt all over especially the head also keeps them away from navel. Some of them go mad for iodine.

When's calving starting 2021

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