Fertiliser prices?

Sugarbowl · 06-02-2021 9:26pm

Does Yara sell in small bags or is it just all the large bags? I see them in the coop but only the big bags so far. How are they price wise compared to the others?

Western Pomise · 06-02-2021 9:39pm

Mooooo wrote: »

Prices went up this month. Dairygold give a 6 euro early delivery discount. Had trouble with protected urea +S last year so not getting it till I use it this year. It has a short enough shelf life esp when there is S or K in it as well

As in up since beginning of February?

jaymla627 · 12-02-2021 2:34pm

Anyone needing fert that's hasn't bought would want to get on it, thought they where exaggerating in the comic but they aren't, rang around this morning and prices are up 40 euro plus ton for 18.6.12s on a load I bought in January, had to buy another load this morning as 2 lads I deal with said serious supply issues are occurring and whatever is in- stock now is all they have to sell

blue5000 · 12-02-2021 3:13pm

jaymla627 wrote: »

Anyone needing fert that's hasn't bought would want to get on it, thought they where exaggerating in the comic but they aren't, rang around this morning and prices are up 40 euro plus ton for 18.6.12s on a load I bought in January, had to buy another load this morning as 2 lads I deal with said serious supply issues are occurring and whatever is in- stock now is all they have to sell

Well they can hardly blame high crude oil prices or high transport prices. What's the excuse this year? Going organic just got a whole lot more realistic.

Mooooo · 12-02-2021 3:52pm

Covid is to blame for everything shir

Say my name · 12-02-2021 4:20pm

blue5000 wrote: »

Well they can hardly blame high crude oil prices or high transport prices. What's the excuse this year? Going organic just got a whole lot more realistic.

Didn't a dept of ag rep on a fert industry zoom meeting say that the price of fert needs to increase to dissuade and reduce use? They want to hit emission and water targets. But it was said.
I doubt it'd work to farmers who don't know any different but who'd turn down that request from the dept.

Only codding it's probably Brexit, Covid, the Olympics or something..

mahoney_j · 12-02-2021 4:45pm

Mooooo wrote: »

Covid is to blame for everything shir

Don’t forget brexit ......

lakill Farm · 12-02-2021 5:46pm

I heard the other day that India bought a massive amount of the yearly supply of Urea

No idea that's all I heard

blue5000 wrote: »

Well they can hardly blame high crude oil prices or high transport prices. What's the excuse this year? Going organic just got a whole lot more realistic.

Bass Reeves · 12-02-2021 8:31pm

There was a poor harvest in a good few countries last year. I imagine that these is a big push you crease production. COVID has probably not helped either. I bought mid January. Looks like it was a good decision

Bleating Lamb · 15-02-2021 3:34pm

Has anyone priced 18:6:12 in last week or so?.....where they would be paying in full for it now and leaving it in Co-Op yard till needed?

Have contacted my usual supplier but he hasn't got back to me yet....I see someone said above though that it's gone up 40 euro a tonne with them since January:(

I was pricing for 5 tonne that I wouldn't be collecting until April.....just be interested on various prices Nationwide....in North Leitrim here.

ABitofsense · 15-02-2021 6:59pm

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Has anyone priced 18:6:12 in last week or so?.....where they would be paying in full for it now and leaving it in Co-Op yard till needed

I was quoted 355 for 18-6-12 & 365 for Cut swarth for small bags

That's delivered to the yard

jntsnk · 15-02-2021 10:06pm

€270 for 19.0.15 In Jan

jimmy G M · 16-02-2021 10:30am

€260 T for CAN
€360 for 18.6.12
€390 for 10.10.20

Bulk bags, delivered, Ballinasloe area, Galway.

Edit>... Thats up €30t on Jan quotes

hopeso · 16-02-2021 3:56pm

Sugarbowl wrote: »

Does Yara sell in small bags or is it just all the large bags? I see them in the coop but only the big bags so far. How are they price wise compared to the others?

They do have small bags, but a retailer once told me that they don't start bagging the small bags until late in the season for some reason.

Reggie. · 17-02-2021 11:59am

18-6-12 €380
9.6-6-25 €370
Urea €400

Drummonds

morphy87 · 17-02-2021 12:20pm

Reggie. wrote: »

18-6-12 €380
9.6-6-25 €370
Urea €400

Drummonds

What did you pay last year?

mengele · 17-02-2021 12:58pm

Reggie. wrote: »

18-6-12 €380
9.6-6-25 €370
Urea €400

Drummonds

Are they this years prices? Urea is gone mad so

Bass Reeves · 17-02-2021 1:07pm

Is that protected urea Reg

Reggie. · 17-02-2021 6:46pm

morphy87 wrote: »

What did you pay last year?

Cant remember

Reggie. · 17-02-2021 6:47pm

mengele wrote: »

Are they this years prices? Urea is gone mad so

Yeah. Better prices may be got for large loads I only got a half ton of each

Reggie. · 17-02-2021 6:47pm

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Is that protected urea Reg

Nope

mayoireland · 17-02-2021 9:05pm

Just wondering about brands of fertilizer. I use to use target about 5 years ago and found it no good.i heard later that there was a bad batch for a year or two where they got it somewhere else and it was no good. But I have heard lately that has being resolved and its sound again . Has anyone else out there heard this .

josephsoap · 17-02-2021 9:16pm

mayoireland wrote: »

Just wondering about brands of fertilizer. I use to use target about 5 years ago and found it no good.i heard later that there was a bad batch for a year or two where they got it somewhere else and it was no good. But I have heard lately that has being resolved and its sound again . Has anyone else out there heard this .

Heard about a bad batch of target last year, neighbours who had used it said it was no good (in 2020)

Use Goulding’s here and couldn’t fault it, anyone have any experience of Nitrofert?

Mooooo · 17-02-2021 9:45pm

Protected urea from target last year, was a bollix, eventually rang coop and told em take it away

mayoireland · 17-02-2021 10:57pm

Is it true that the prices are rising soon or is this bull **** just to get farmers to buy sooner

Robson99 · 17-02-2021 11:06pm

mayoireland wrote: »

Is it true that the prices are rising soon or is this bull **** just to get farmers to buy sooner

It's gone up already

Reggie. · 17-02-2021 11:40pm

mayoireland wrote: »

Is it true that the prices are rising soon or is this bull **** just to get farmers to buy sooner

Fert gone up about €40 a ton in last 2 weeks

Injuryprone · 18-02-2021 12:53am

Mooooo wrote: »

Protected urea from target last year, was a bollix, eventually rang coop and told em take it away

What problems had you with it? I tried it a couple of years ago (maybe not target) and all I got was yellow grass after the dry May, when the CAN my neighbours were spreading kept their grass going that bit better

dodo mommy · 18-02-2021 6:24am

mayoireland wrote: »

Just wondering about brands of fertilizer. I use to use target about 5 years ago and found it no good.i heard later that there was a bad batch for a year or two where they got it somewhere else and it was no good. But I have heard lately that has being resolved and its sound again . Has anyone else out there heard this .

Just on the topic of fertiliser brands, I had an interesting conversation with a man recently about that. He maintained that some brands were cheaper then others, he recommended Goulding what are people's opinions on this?

Western Pomise · 18-02-2021 7:59pm

dodo mommy wrote: »

Just on the topic of fertiliser brands, I had an interesting conversation with a man recently about that. He maintained that some brands were cheaper then others, he recommended Goulding what are people's opinions on this?

You would have to imagine that some level of quality control has to take place on Fertiliser production so there could not be a big disparity in ingredients across different brands?

Crackedjim01 · 20-02-2021 9:25am

All my nitrogen does be delivered by Bolgers Agri Ferns this year has been Yara in 4x500kg, used to be Goulding or Grassland. What's the idea behind the 600kg bags apart from holding an extra 100kg,you could only make up multiples of 3 tons, Lots of spreaders hold a ton comfortably but not 1200kg without being at the point of spilling at any slight bump.

SouthWesterly · 24-02-2021 10:00pm

Guys is there a fertiliser with npk and a range of minor nutrients such as boron and manganese.

I'm needing a few bags for my veg garden.
Had a soil test done and short on these.
Also short on lime but that's an easy fix.

DBK1 · 24-02-2021 10:18pm

SouthWesterly wrote: »

Guys is there a fertiliser with npk and a range of minor nutrients such as boron and manganese.

I'm needing a few bags for my veg garden.
Had a soil test done and short on these.
Also short on lime but that's an easy fix.

It’s a beet compound your looking for so.

8-5-18 for beet should have sulphur, magnesium, boron and calcium in it.

SouthWesterly · 24-02-2021 10:22pm

DBK1 wrote: »

It’s a beet compound your looking for so.

8-5-18 for beet should have sulphur, magnesium, boron and calcium in it.

Thanks.

I'll make a few calls tomorrow

DBK1 · 24-02-2021 10:24pm

SouthWesterly wrote: »

Thanks.

I'll make a few calls tomorrow

No problem. I should have said also that manganese is normally applied as a liquid fertiliser, or at least it used to be that way when were at tillage. It would be diluted in water and applied via sprayer.

Mooooo · 24-02-2021 10:27pm

Some well rotted dung would help as well I'd imagine

Green farmer · 24-02-2021 10:28pm

dodo mommy wrote: »

Just on the topic of fertiliser brands, I had an interesting conversation with a man recently about that. He maintained that some brands were cheaper then others, he recommended Goulding what are people's opinions on this?

Only ever used small quantities, but think goulding cleanest to use. Found agro grassland dusty in comparison when you look out the back window of tractor and when washing out spreader afterward.

Hard Knocks · 24-02-2021 10:41pm

DBK1 wrote: »

It’s a beet compound your looking for so.

8-5-18 for beet should have sulphur, magnesium, boron and calcium in it.

Have any other compounds got boron in it?

hopeso · 24-02-2021 10:50pm

Green farmer wrote: »

Only ever used small quantities, but think goulding cleanest to use. Found agro grassland dusty in comparison when you look out the back window of tractor and when washing out spreader afterward.

Maybe one time, but I find Gouldings very dusty in recent years.

SouthWesterly · 24-02-2021 11:00pm

Mooooo wrote: »

Some well rotted dung would help as well I'd imagine

I've had manure on it over the winter and planning on putting compost on the beds this year. It's a 1/4 acre veg garden and part of a 4.5 acre field.

Field was fallow for for probably 60 plus years.
I've the rest rented out for silage so a local is looking after fertilising that and putting slurry on it.

DBK1 · 24-02-2021 11:23pm

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Have any other compounds got boron in it?

It’s mainly just beet compounds. 8-5-18 would be the most common. There is a 10-5-25 as well and an 11-0-24 I think.

If it’s something your looking for a couple of ton of you should talk to your merchant, they should be able to mix any compound you need if you give them a bit of notice.

alps · 24-02-2021 11:57pm

hopeso wrote: »

Maybe one time, but I find Gouldings very dusty in recent years.

And the inside bag is never properly tied to the outer bag and falls through with the feet like a clearing coming from a cow.....no pleasure

limerick farmer · 25-02-2021 11:17am

18 6 12 and pasture sward 351 cut sward 361 +2 euro if less than 10 ton purchased

SouthWesterly · 25-02-2021 7:19pm

DBK1 wrote: »

It’s mainly just beet compounds. 8-5-18 would be the most common. There is a 10-5-25 as well and an 11-0-24 I think.

If it’s something your looking for a couple of ton of you should talk to your merchant, they should be able to mix any compound you need if you give them a bit of notice.

Picked up a couple of bags of beet fertiliser today. 22e a bag.
Gran lime 9e.

Say my name · 25-02-2021 8:13pm

SouthWesterly wrote: »

Picked up a couple of bags of beet fertiliser today. 22e a bag.
Gran lime 9e.

Don't forget to bring up your organic matter in the soil too and your boron, manganese and whatever will follow and rise and find their level.
By that I mean whatever will feed the microbes in the soil. So food.
Seaweed, molasses, dung, slurry, compost,, whatever.
Fermented is better than not and is more readily available to eat too just as our own diet and our own gut microbes.

SouthWesterly · 25-02-2021 8:48pm

Say my name wrote: »

Don't forget to bring up your organic matter in the soil too and your boron, manganese and whatever will follow and rise and find their level.
By that I mean whatever will feed the microbes in the soil. So food.
Seaweed, molasses, dung, slurry, compost,, whatever.
Fermented is better than not and is more readily available to eat too just as our own diet and our own gut microbes.

It's had manure over the winter and a load of woodchips last year on the beds which broke down over the winter. Going no dig but it was from a low fertility base, hence the fertiliser and lime this year.
Lots of fungi in the woodchips.

Say my name · 25-02-2021 9:28pm

SouthWesterly wrote: »

It's had manure over the winter and a load of woodchips last year on the beds which broke down over the winter. Going no dig but it was from a low fertility base, hence the fertiliser and lime this year.
Lots of fungi in the woodchips.

Go out with molasses too.

It wouldn't matter if it was subsoil from Mars. If molasses was put on it it'd transform it to carbon rich topsoil from the Ukraine.
There's some would argue the fert has the opposite effect of fertility but a half way house is better than none.

I'm aware of the thread title so carefully withdrawing..

TooOldBoots · 28-02-2021 4:45pm

Any quotes for Gran lime ?

Bass Reeves · 28-02-2021 5:12pm

TooOldBoots wrote: »

Any quotes for Gran lime ?

I bought two ton with my fertlizer for 148/ ton in Dairygold. It should be still available for that or less. It seldom varies in price by much

TooOldBoots · 28-02-2021 5:15pm

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I bought two ton with my fertlizer for 148/ ton in Dairygold. It should be still available for that or less. It seldom varies in price by much

sound, yep the price doesn't move much.

Fertiliser prices?

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