Curved Stairs

galwayrush · 25-05-2010 8:38pm

galwaydude18 wrote: »

Ok I see. How do you cramp the laminations together on the drum if you were doing a full solid string (not a cut string) ?

Same way, clamp the laminates to the uprights of the drum.
I'll post here when i get the next bit of curved to do, you're welcome to pop out and follow the work if you want.:cool:

galwaydude18 · 25-05-2010 8:42pm

Ya sound that would be great. Just depends where in the country I am working. If I am close by I would be delighted to have a look. Where in galway are you? Are you far from the main turn off between tuam and claregalway where everyone gets delayed every morning?

galwaydude18 · 25-05-2010 8:44pm

Is the drum made like a stud work and then cladded with ply or similar? Or just like a stud work?

galwayrush · 25-05-2010 9:56pm

galwaydude18 wrote: »

Is the drum made like a stud work and then cladded with ply or similar? Or just like a stud work?

Just stud work, when doing a cut string, i put each stud in line with the back cut for each riser.Closed string, it doesn't really matter.

galwayrush · 25-05-2010 9:57pm

galwaydude18 wrote: »

Ya sound that would be great. Just depends where in the country I am working. If I am close by I would be delighted to have a look. Where in galway are you? Are you far from the main turn off between tuam and claregalway where everyone gets delayed every morning?

3 miles from the turnoff;)

galwaydude18 · 25-05-2010 11:18pm

OK I am with you now. God it's not as complicated as I first thought it was. Just need a million clamps and a few hands to get it all glued up really once it is all set out

tiocimarla · 25-05-2010 11:35pm

Can you take a few photos of this in progress and post them up with completed product when is done. It sounds like a nice job. I mean if you have time between all that clamping that is. :cool:

galwayrush · 26-05-2010 8:17am

tiocimarla wrote: »

Can you take a few photos of this in progress and post them up with completed product when is done. It sounds like a nice job. I mean if you have time between all that clamping that is. :cool:

Will do. Don't have a curved job on atm, but i have a few pics on a camera of the last one, some of it as it was in progress so i'll get them up here soon.

tiocimarla · 26-05-2010 12:23pm

Cheers it not often i get to be involved with joinery like that. Being a chippy in dublin can be like working in a factory at times.

johnpawl · 26-05-2010 9:53pm

galwayrush wrote: »

I always mitre the edge of the steps to eliminate the end grain exposure, the spindles can be either dovetailed into the steps before the return edge mitre is fitted, or simply dowelled.

would the best way to do that be to stick the spindle on the lathe and reduce the diameter on the bottom to form a dowell and drill a suitable hole? I figured out the shuttering anyway, bit of working out but not too bad...

johnpawl · 26-05-2010 9:59pm

galwayrush wrote: »

I always mitre the edge of the steps to eliminate the end grain exposure, the spindles can be either dovetailed into the steps before the return edge mitre is fitted, or simply dowelled.

whats the best way to cut the mitre into the tread?i cant see how to do it with a chopsaw... handsaw and mitre box?? do you use a bandsaw and fence to cut across the end grain of the tread?? thanks!!:)

galwayrush · 26-05-2010 10:06pm

johnpawl wrote: »

whats the best way to cut the mitre into the tread?i cant see how to do it with a chopsaw... handsaw and mitre box?? do you use a bandsaw and fence to cut across the end grain of the tread?? thanks!!:)

I rough cut with a bandsaw and finish off with a template on an overhead router.

johnpawl · 26-05-2010 10:26pm

galwayrush wrote: »

I rough cut with a bandsaw and finish off with a template on an overhead router.

oh right, be hard to get it right with bandsaw everytime...:cool:

galwayrush · 26-05-2010 10:29pm

johnpawl wrote: »

oh right, be hard to get it right with bandsaw everytime...:cool:

I've done it that way in the past, bloody hard. Best thing about the overhead router is it can be used to smooth the edge of the thread and it's front edge mitre and when curved, machine the edge piece to fit as well.

johnpawl · 26-05-2010 10:29pm

johnpawl wrote: »

oh right, be hard to get it right with bandsaw everytime...:cool:

dont forget work in progress and bracket pics

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D thanks for the help!!!!!!!!!!!!!

galwayrush · 26-05-2010 10:31pm

johnpawl wrote: »

dont forget work in progress and bracket pics :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D thanks for the help!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Doing a handrail with the last 3 ft curved week after next, i'll photo it all the way and add the ones in camera at the weekend.New computer here, so still have to install camera software.

johnpawl · 26-05-2010 11:21pm

galwayrush wrote: »

Doing a handrail with the last 3 ft curved week after next, i'll photo it all the way and add the ones in camera at the weekend.New computer here, so still have to install camera software.

sound out, thanks for that

galwayrush · 02-06-2010 7:49pm

galwaydude18 · 02-06-2010 11:03pm

Fabulous job galwayrush. Very impressive!!!!

tiocimarla · 02-06-2010 11:40pm

The mitre under the circular window is off on the right side mate:p. Only messing haha. Good job:D Question 1. what type of joint was used on the handrail and how long was the individual curved pieces before you joined them. Also at what point did you machine the handrail

galwayrush · 03-06-2010 8:26pm

It was hard to get long lengths in Walnut, managed to get 14', but in lamination, i find the foot at either end tends to straighten slightly, so the aim is to get 12' good. The pieces are joined using handrail bolts, using a biscuit joiner to give a good stable reference point to get the joint good. All handrail is fully machined before lamination.
I'll be posting a start to finish set of pics on the next curved handrail i'm doing, starting it mid next week.

galwayrush · 03-06-2010 8:30pm

tiocimarla wrote: »

The mitre under the circular window is off on the right side mate:p. Only messing haha. Good job:D Question 1. what type of joint was used on the handrail and how long was the individual curved pieces before you joined them. Also at what point did you machine the handrail

LOL:D

It was a bitch to fit, as the window is not central, one N Post is planed to fit into the wall, the other is 5 " from the wall, so for visual effect we had to offset things to look central from the main viewing vantage point .

johnpawl · 03-06-2010 9:24pm

galwayrush wrote: »

It was hard to get long lengths in Walnut, managed to get 14', but in lamination, i find the foot at either end tends to straighten slightly, so the aim is to get 12' good. The pieces are joined using handrail bolts, using a biscuit joiner to give a good stable reference point to get the joint good. All handrail is fully machined before lamination.
I'll be posting a start to finish set of pics on the next curved handrail i'm doing, starting it mid next week.

sound I'll be keepin an eye on that

galwaydude18 · 03-06-2010 10:21pm

Excellent stuff. Cant wait to see that. If I'm not working next week when your at that I might take a wander up to you if your offer to call up still stand to see how its done ?! I could give you a helping hand for free if you wanted while I'm there ?

stairs · 08-06-2010 4:38am

Difference in price for curved stairs and regular can be huge. There is quite a lot more work involved in curved stairs so you have to hire skilled woodworker.

http://www.davincifloors.com

galwayrush · 08-06-2010 7:46pm

galwaydude18 wrote: »

Excellent stuff. Cant wait to see that. If I'm not working next week when your at that I might take a wander up to you if your offer to call up still stand to see how its done ?! I could give you a helping hand for free if you wanted while I'm there ?

Got a few windows to finish, then some skirting board / archritraves to machine, then i'll be doing the curved handrail, i'll send you a pm later in the week when and where i am located.;)

galwaydude18 · 09-06-2010 12:02am

Sound job galwayrush!

yosemite_sam · 09-06-2010 11:18pm

I make them, I have put up a couple of pictures of curved stairs i have done lately. This is a link showing us machining a curved oak handrail out of solid timber http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXNVY_kMa7k. They are not as bad price wise as they used to be.

johnpawl · 17-06-2010 10:49pm

hey galwayrush just wonderin did you ever get round to that handrail...

galwayrush · 18-06-2010 10:40pm

johnpawl wrote: »

hey galwayrush just wonderin did you ever get round to that handrail...

Doing it in a few days time, there was a delay with the screeding in the house, so that's (finally) going in on monday.

johnpawl · 29-06-2010 1:14am

galwayrush wrote: »

Doing it in a few days time, there was a delay with the screeding in the house, so that's (finally) going in on monday.

Great stuff, I'll be waiting for that...thanks for the help

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