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Summer 2019 - General Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,228 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Heathrow 36.9 now

    Heathrow, Stansted and London City all reporting 37°c (rounded) at 2:20pm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Hottest days on record for the UK in terms of absolute max. 25 July 2019 with 37.2c at Heathrow is now the second hottest on record. Super weird summer of 2019!

    38.5 C = 10 Aug 2003
    37.2 C = 25 Jul 2019
    37.1 C = 03 Aug 1990
    36.7 C = 01 Jul 2015
    36.7 C = 09 Aug 1911
    36.6 C = 02 Aug 1990
    36.5 C = 19 Jul 2006
    36.4 C = 06 Aug 2003
    36.1 C = 04 Aug 1990
    36.0 C = 09 Aug 2003
    35.9 C = 03 Jul 1976

    Data from UK Met Office.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    Sky has gone black in Grand Canal Dock. A deluge of rain looks like it could (and hopefully does) fall. It's so sticky out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,503 ✭✭✭thomasm


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Heathrow, Stansted and London City all reporting 37°c (rounded) at 2:20pm.


    I'm sure its being asked before but for someone with no technical knowledge how is there such a difference between Ireland and UK ?


    Is it down to the seas. To have some place an hours flight away nearly 20 degrees higher seems extraordinary !!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭Mobhi1


    It's gone completely cloudy here now in Glasnevin and the temperature's fallen to 21.8C after reaching a high of 23.3C a short while ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,228 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    thomasm wrote: »
    I'm sure its being asked before but for someone with no technical knowledge how is there such a difference between Ireland and UK ?


    Is it down to the seas. To have some place an hours flight away nearly 20 degrees higher seems extraordinary !!

    Much closer to continent, urban heat effect, larger landmass, slightly further south, many many factors that ensure London has a very different climate to us relative to how near it is to us


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,219 ✭✭✭pad199207


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Much closer to continent, urban heat effect, larger landmass, slightly further south, many many factors that ensure London has a very different climate to us relative to how near it is to us

    Just just London today, even Liverpool just across from Dublin is nearly 11 degrees warmer


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭Mobhi1


    Is it 26C in Derry at the moment?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,228 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Mobhi1 wrote: »
    Is it 26C in Derry at the moment?

    Airport says 25°c so I doubt it's far off that.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,153 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    pad199207 wrote: »
    Just just London today, even Liverpool just across from Dublin is nearly 11 degrees warmer

    And they have thunderstorms (now)! :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭compsys


    thomasm wrote: »
    I'm sure its being asked before but for someone with no technical knowledge how is there such a difference between Ireland and UK ?


    Is it down to the seas. To have some place an hours flight away nearly 20 degrees higher seems extraordinary !!

    Because the UK and Ireland are so interlinked with history, politics, and culture etc a lot of people seem to think this should extend to the weather, which is naive.

    "Oh it's sunny in London, why isn't it sunny in Dublin/Ireland? We should be getting it too".

    But London is over 500km away from Dublin. Over 650km away from Galway. It's not like it's just down the road.

    500-700km is a big distance in weather terms. Lots of countries and cities all over the world would have similar weather discrepancies over that distance.

    Think Sydney v Melbourne, Bergen in Norway v Stockholm and San Fran v Las Vagas.

    20 degrees, while unusual, isn't extraordinary as London is miles away and is a different climate to Ireland.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    pad199207 wrote: »
    Just just London today, even Liverpool just across from Dublin is nearly 11 degrees warmer

    I think this is unprecedented though. Normally in heatwaves there would never be this type of difference in temperature. Last summers heatwave for example had the likes of Shannon very close to London and warmer than much of the UK.

    Even the last European heat wave in June, there was nowhere near these types of discrepancy between temps in Ireland vs Britain. They will always get warmer weather in London than here but the likes of Liverpool would be very similar to Ireland.

    This weather event this week is very much an exceptional situation. Most of this summer the likes of London tended to be about 3-4 degrees warmer than Dublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,946 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    Anyone find it particularly hard to sleep last night?

    I had no problem all the other warm nights of similar temperature but was sweating and sticky all last night.

    Location South Midlands.

    Nope :o:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 624 ✭✭✭glightning


    compsys wrote: »
    Because the UK and Ireland are so interlinked with history, politics, and culture etc a lot of people seem to think this should extend to the weather, which is naive.

    "Oh it's sunny in London, why isn't it sunny in Dublin/Ireland? We should be getting it too".

    But London is over 500km away from Dublin. Over 650km away from Galway. It's not like it's just down the road.

    500-700km is a big distance in weather terms. Lots of countries and cities all over the world would have similar weather discrepancies over that distance.

    Think Sydney v Melbourne, Bergen in Norway v Stockholm and San Fran v Las Vagas.

    20 degrees, while unusual, isn't extraordinary as London is miles away and is a different climate to Ireland.


    Good points! I sometimes travel to San Fran with work and in summer the city is usually only in the teens or low twenties. You only have to travel 30 to 40 miles south or inland for the temp to be in the 30’s on the same day. Climate can and does vary significantly even over relatively short distances.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭Fast Twitch


    Mars Bar wrote: »
    Nope :o:

    Very consistent sleep pattern. Fair play:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 624 ✭✭✭glightning


    But the main significant factor for us is that most heat is pumped up by a low to the west of Ireland when a high is to the east.

    Unfortunately this means that if you track the air backwards, most of our air comes around the underside of the low and mixes with the hot air coming up from the south. Whereas in England they don’t get that Atlantic air mixing so much. They get a much more southerly feed of drier air from the near continent with very little if any Atlantic air mixing in during these spells. Unfortunate


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    I see Paris broke it’s all time recordtoday...I am kind of surprised the record there is not closer to 45. Looks like they will be around 42-43 degrees today. UK seems to be falling just shy of their record of 38 unless it gets warmer over the coming hour. Presumably optimum temperature would be generally be reached pre 4pm?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭Fast Twitch


    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/top-20/maxt

    Cambridge 38C.. probably rounded.

    Won't take much to push 38C to beyond 38.5C.. Surely there's an hour of heat build up left..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    37.9c at Heathrow apparently but not sure on that. 37.7c at Kew Gardens and Writtle anyway.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,647 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Cork is practically the coldest place in Europe!
    FFS :/
    We're cursed.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭Fast Twitch


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Cork is practically the coldest place in Europe!
    FFS :/
    We're cursed.

    You could be in Iceland;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭Mobhi1


    We've got some sunshine again and the temperature's back at 22.3C


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    38.1c at Cambridge.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    Phoenix park was the warmest place in Ireland again yesterday according to met Éireann website, 24.9 degrees.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,958 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Just awful here the last couple of days. Thank goodness this is the last day of the heat- currently 37c. So it looks like the 2003 all time record won't be broken afterall


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    Cork airport the coldest place in Ireland yesterday with a max of 18. Grim


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    Just awful here the last couple of days. Thank goodness this is the last day of the heat- currently 37c. So it looks like the 2003 all time record won't be broken afterall

    It does look like it will fall just shy of the record. Would have to think this time of day the temp will start to drop slowly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,184 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    38.1c at Cambridge.
    :eek: 38c in Celbridge!
    edit: oh .... its Cambridge...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,958 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    It does look like it will fall just shy of the record. Would have to think this time of day the temp will start to drop slowly.

    Yes i would think so. The cloud cover, associated with the isolated thunderstorms, may have scuppered the chances of it being broken in places.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    It's surprisingly gusty in cork city actually.

    Still cloudy however along with about 18 degree temperatures. Come on sun!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Don’t forget there’s climate stations to consider too that don’t report in real time so there might have at least been one that recorded a higher temp than 38.1c. This was the case with the 2003 record when Kew Gardens got 38.1c but it was later revealed that Faversham got to 38.5c.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    No interest to be honest in England's temperatures or weather,its a foreign country and should in my opinion be in a thread for foreign countries weather
    People in my opinion should be discussing Irish summer here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,958 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    No interest to be honest in England's temperatures or weather,its a foreign country and should in my opinion be in a thread for foreign countries weather
    People in my opinion should be discussing Irish summer here


    There is a lot of interest in the thread for international weather extremes and holiday reports. So clearly other people are interested in the weather outside Ireland

    Also don't you view and post on Netweather sometimes? Why do you bother viewing that website at all, if you only have interest in Irish weather?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,457 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Looks like Mt's forecast for today proved more accurate than Kermit's in the end


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,228 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Looks like Mt's forecast for today proved more accurate than Kermit's in the end

    Despite mainly cloud, it did get to 24.2°c here in West Clare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    No interest to be honest in England's temperatures or weather,its a foreign country and should in my opinion be in a thread for foreign countries weather
    People in my opinion should be discussing Irish summer here

    They are our closest neighbour.
    We share a largely similar climate.
    Most if not all of us on here have family and/or friends living and working over there.
    We watch their weather forecasts.
    We speak their language.
    We go running to them with our begging bowl every time self described 'experts' **** up the economy.. then suddenly become very cocky when the bread is all eaten up...

    New Moon



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    Met office saying temps now dipping, 38.1 was the highest so it looks like all time UK record of 38.5 not hit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,478 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Met office saying temps now dipping, 38.1 was the highest so it looks like all time UK record of 38.5 not hit

    Proof that man made climate change is a conspiracy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Proof that man made climate change is a conspiracy

    Watched a bit of the UK Met live stream earlier and it was really just about how 'climate change' is causing more of these heatwaves, fair enough, but are the equally as large negative anomalies that are forecast to move down into NE Europe next week a result of the same? Or is this more about opportunism?

    New Moon



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭Fast Twitch


    Proof that man made climate change is a conspiracy

    It's kinda scary at this stage. But apart from the heatwaves we had record low temps and frost in central Europe around 10th July! So at both ends of the spectrum.

    What annoys me is no mention of the cold in the mainstream media. That's equally bizarre. I suppose somewhere having an hour of air frost in July isn't as newsworthy as the record breaking heat. But they should present the full picture.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭Fast Twitch


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    Watched a bit of the UK Met live stream earlier and it was really just about how 'climate change' is causing more of these heatwaves, fair enough, but are the equally as large negative anomalies that are forecast to move down into NE Europe next week a result of the same? Or is this more about opportunism?

    Yes in the world we live in, with so many agendas, it's frustrating when all information isn't given.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    There is a lot of interest in the thread for international weather extremes and holiday reports. So clearly other people are interested in the weather outside Ireland
    7 0r 8 people isn't a lot but I think it's a pity to be obsessed with mother Englands weather
    Enjoy our own is my motto
    Also don't you view and post on Netweather sometimes? Why do you bother viewing that website at all, if you only have interest in Irish weather?
    You can post on netweather you know about Irish weather you know which is what I do,rarely
    I've no interest in the weather in London or Cardiff unless I'm going there
    It's all wow that's the loudest thunder ever when it probably isn't or wah wah wah its missing my village of runny on the mead..
    Gets boring
    Where my interest is piqued is if I think weather there or Europe is heading this way
    Only a glancing passing interest in foreign countries like England otherwise I'm afraid unless obviously theres a disaster or deaths or something


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,250 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    I was surprised to see that the highest ever recorded temperature in the United Kingdom is 38.5° C. I would have thought they would have had a touch of 40° sometime in their history.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    Another disappointing day all in all. Windy cloudy 20 degrees spots of rain very odd glimpse of sun.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    flazio wrote: »
    I was surprised to see that the highest ever recorded temperature in the United Kingdom is 38.5° C. I would have thought they would have had a touch of 40° sometime in their history.

    I am surprised they are as high as 38 to be honest, north west Europe gets pretty poor weather to the main extent. Really you need to be on the continent landmass to get reliable warm summers each year. Only exception maybe is Belgium, Holland and northern France that are also not that warm (this week an exception of course). Really you can draw a line from Paris and Berlin and south of that and they always seem on a different level in terms of heat vs anything in UK and Ireland.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    Netherlands and Belgium both went over 40 degrees today and Germany got up near 43. Not sure what Paris reached in the end but I think it was around 43 degrees


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Not sure what Paris reached in the end but I think it was around 43 degrees
    The most recent update I had seen in the afternoon showed 42.6c as the high in Paris.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    I am surprised they are as high as 38 to be honest, north west Europe gets pretty poor weather to the main extent. Really you need to be on the continent landmass to get reliable warm summers each year. Only exception maybe is Belgium, Holland and northern France that are also not that warm (this week an exception of course). Really you can draw a line from Paris and Berlin and south of that and they always seem on a different level in terms of heat vs anything in UK and Ireland.

    You have an odd obsession with playing down the UK's climate and playing up Paris and Dublin, almost every one of your posts has some reference to one of the three :pac:


    Back here, dark and windy as always though feeling warm so can't complain too much, think we've been getting the best of the weather up here this week


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    You can post on netweather you know about Irish weather you know
    So the Irish can post about Irish weather on a UK forum, but you crib about the a couple of posters mentioning the UK weather on here? Don't start going all isolationist on us now Mortelaro. ;)

    The weather in the UK is of interest at the moment, that is all.

    New Moon



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