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Storm Hector : Wind Warning :Weds 13 PM to Thurs 14th AM

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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Is this unusual for this time of year?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,819 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Is this unusual for this time of year?

    I would have thought so yes. Usually only see very strong jets and LP as low as this and dropping as fast in the winter when there is bigger temperature gradients . Not unheard of, dont have facts to hand but maybe sryanbruen might be able to dig up details of summer storms.

    Good piece here by Nick Finnis https://www.netweather.tv/weather-forecasts/news/8966-here-comes-hector---unseasonable-june-windstorm-for-the-north


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,727 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    We normally get these type of storms from October to March. Summer storms like this are unusual. We can get windy episodes from ex-hurricanes, but this is more typical of a winter wind storm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    When are we expecting this to blow over folks? I have 200km to cycle in Co Clare on Friday and Saturday and would rather not face character building weather


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,798 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Headlands and islands slowly disappearing from view here (NW Donegal)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 22,235 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Is this just a wind event or are we expecting heavy rain too?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,327 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    P_1 wrote: »
    When are we expecting this to blow over folks? I have 200km to cycle in Co Clare on Friday and Saturday and would rather not face character building weather

    This will be done by mid-day Thursday in Clare and most of Ireland, mid-afternoon latest for any remnant strong gusts in eastern counties.

    Your main concern for cycling on Friday and Saturday will be occasional rain.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    This will be done by mid-day Thursday in Clare and most of Ireland, mid-afternoon latest for any remnant strong gusts in eastern counties.

    Your main concern for cycling on Friday and Saturday will be occasional rain.

    Thanks a million, don't worry a bit of rain is nothing to be concerned about ;)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,819 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    12Z ECM rolling out, only comes in 3 hrly frames. The ECM has been very consistent over the previous runs.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,327 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    As to how unusual, I just set the wetterzentrale archive on 14th June 00z and went year by year through 164 years of maps, only two of them looked capable of producing 80 km/hr gusts near Donegal Bay (those were in 1917 and 1951). About a dozen looked capable of topping 60 km/hr. Nothing looked quite as intense as tonight's set-up even when I took potential candidates into 24-48h in either direction. So you could say for mid-June this is quite unusual.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,063 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Very high tide at Westport Quay this evening.
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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    Not in the warning but wanna update anyway :) wet and pretty strong gusts and constant wind in cork city.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,819 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Beginning to take shape well off the West coast and as Nick Finnis pointed out can see the jet streak ( blue streak ).

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,819 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Big Seas

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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,507 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    As to how unusual, I just set the wetterzentrale archive on 14th June 00z and went year by year through 164 years of maps, only two of them looked capable of producing 80 km/hr gusts near Donegal Bay (those were in 1917 and 1951). About a dozen looked capable of topping 60 km/hr. Nothing looked quite as intense as tonight's set-up even when I took potential candidates into 24-48h in either direction. So you could say for mid-June this is quite unusual.

    According to Met Éireann, the wind records for June in Ireland (since 1942) are:

    96 km/hr 10-minute mean wind speed at Malin Head on 24th June 1962. The same station had a maximum wind gust of 137 km/hr on the same day. Here's the reanalysis chart below for midnight on 24th June 1962. According to the historical data, Malin Head also reported a maximum wind gust of 133 km/hr on the 23rd June 1962.

    Proper Summer windstorms are very unusual and do not happen very often; this is evident by the lack of data available for them. Examples include this one 24th June 1962, 25th July 1988 (minimum pressure of 978.0hPa at Belmullet), 14th August 1979, 14th August 1959 (minimum pressure of 967.8hPa at Belmullet). The August 1959 storm was during a long extended fine Summer which makes it that more remarkable. The July 1988 windstorm featured the strongest Summer 10-minute mean wind speed in Ireland since 1942 with 102 km/hr at Malin Head.

    A notable June storm occurred on 8th June 1843 (we only have access to reanalysis charts since 1851 unfortunately) with pressure dropping to 975.3hPa at Phoenix Park on the day. Sadly there isn't anymore information that I know of in the public domain online than that about this storm.

    I'll be having a whizz through Malin Head's historical data to find any notable low pressure or wind gusts at the station in its records during the meteorological Summer season.

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    All data comes from Met Éireann.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭SweetCaliber


    Any predictions on how bad the wind will be in Dublin Airport tomorrow morning ? Due to fly out at 6.45! Might be like a rollercoaster ride :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Artane2002


    Any predictions on how bad the wind will be in Dublin Airport tomorrow morning ? Due to fly out at 6.45! Might be like a rollercoaster ride :pac:

    Looks windy but I doubt it will be something significant enough to cancel your flight. Have an enjoyable flight!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,116 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Rain has stopped. Just breezy not really windy yet. North Mayo


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,879 ✭✭✭pauldry


    40knots in Belmullet n Mace

    Its pickin up

    not an overly wet windstorm

    rained all day but only 2.5mm on weather station n storm isnt carrying much moisture only on North side

    Still a number of wet days in the coming few days should help some of the yellow grass


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭Darwin


    Any predictions on how bad the wind will be in Dublin Airport tomorrow morning ? Due to fly out at 6.45! Might be like a rollercoaster ride :pac:


    From the Airport TAF (Terminal Area Forecast):

    Probability 30% :
    Temporary
    from 14 at 05 UTC to 14 at 09 UTC
    Wind 30 kt from the West/Southwest with gusts up to 50 kt

    So a 30% chance of gusts of almost 100Km/h or so, at least would get you airborne pretty quickly.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,226 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Fierce windy in D24. Birds nest in the tree outside my house looks done for!


  • Registered Users Posts: 629 ✭✭✭cotton


    Power has gone in Greystones after a big gust.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭sparrowcar


    Any predictions on how bad the wind will be in Dublin Airport tomorrow morning ? Due to fly out at 6.45! Might be like a rollercoaster ride :pac:

    You'll get out ok but will be delayed. With those sort of winds and direction dual runway operations will be suspended so will slow the departure rate down at that time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Artane2002


    sparrowcar wrote: »
    You'll get out ok but will be delayed. With those sort of winds and direction dual runway operations will be suspended so will slow the departure rate down at that time.

    I don't think Dublin Airport uses the two runways at the same time if that's what you mean, even in good weather.

    Edit: Looks like I am misunderstanding you, seeing that you post on the aviation forum, I assume that you know your stuff!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,235 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    The trees around here seem to dancing a merry dance here at the moment. Obviously getting all hyped up and excited about the big rave up tonight.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,327 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Good reporting by sryanbruen there, I had a look at that 1962 storm and it appeared to peak around midnight 23-24 June so the two days had similar max gusts. And if that's the strongest wind ever in June, it's worth noting that the maps never show as strong a gradient as the current prog charts for late tonight, nor do they show as low a central pressure (it is always above 995 mbs) on those 1962 maps although perhaps a lack of precision from less marine data? Although the way UK buoys have been going, perhaps they had more marine data in 1962. :)

    19z (20h) M6 buoy reporting winds SW 30 knots gusting to 51 knots, SLP 990.9 mbs. -- that site will probably see peak gusts next 2-3 hours. Pressure at M4 buoy is now 993.0 mbs.

    Peak gusts on land in Connacht around 0400h and west Ulster around 0600h.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,106 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Artane2002 wrote: »
    I don't think Dublin Airport uses the two runways at the same time if that's what you mean, even in good weather.

    In optimal weather they use dual ops for a period in the morning, using both RWY28 and 34.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,879 ✭✭✭pauldry


    41 knot Casement is impressive for there

    power of about 2000 people is gone nationwide from wind

    Greystones and Cavan

    pressure 995 in Sligo


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Artane2002


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    In optimal weather they use dual ops for a period in the morning, using both RWY28 and 34.

    That's new to me. Going off topic here but I assume that's when winds are either calm or very light?

    To make this on topic, I'll just say that the rain hasn't wet the ground properly here and it is breezy, not really windy yet.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,035 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    Great research Sryan. I can remember someone who was old enough to remember telling me how shocking June 1958 was. I found this chart, though not stormy looking still an appalling chart for mid summer!

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