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04-10-2016, 16:04   #61
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Exactly, its quite simple but must apply for all modes of transport. Im fully aware that some cars will squeeze an amber or early red (which is still illegal) however it not as blatant as a deliberate act to jump the lights at any stage.
Oh wow, this is up there with the stupidest things on here. You say yourself it's illegal, so yes, yes it is.

From the cyclist point of view jumping early may be because they don't trust the car behind them in the lane to have any patience and squeeze by (I get this everyday), but of course they might just be an arse thinking the light is nothing but an inconvenience to them. In some, some cases I'd understand it, but don't do it.

From the driving point of view, it seems to be ah sure I'll gamble, save a minute or so, my journey is terribly important. In no cases except medical emergency to I understand it
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04-10-2016, 16:07   #62
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If someone hurts themselves cycling on a mountain trail. Someone is sure to make red light breaking somehow related. Any comment arguing otherwise derided as defending red light breaking.

The issue is not defending red light breaking. It's the misrepresentation of opinion usually flawed and unresearched as fact. Especially by the media.
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i threw that in as a comment on the article for you.
You did? Under which name?
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I sent in a letter to the IT similar to some of the posts mentioned above.
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Is it just me, or does this......

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Look, the red light/green green light laws could not be clearer. Stop on red go on green.There is no satisfactory explanation for anyone on any mode of transport who decides to break a red light. Level of risk depending on what mode you are using is not a factor...ever.
contradict this?

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Exactly, its quite simple but must apply for all modes of transport. Im fully aware that some cars will squeeze an amber or early red (which is still illegal) however it not as blatant as a deliberate act to jump the lights at any stage.
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No excuse for poor journalism either.
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Is it just me, or does this......



contradict this?
I'd say it's just you
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the usual "Going around in Circles" arguments have started ...
...... unfollow.....
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the usual "Going around in Circles" arguments have started ...
...... unfollow.....
It's a vicious cycle...
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It's a vicious cycle...
Now cyclists and roundabouts, that would make a good liveline topic...sure....sure....sure....
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Everyone would want to get their spoke in.
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The pedestrian still has right-of-way until it becomes a red man on the pedestrian crossing.
I suppose you could say that the crossing is essentially a zebra-crossing while it's flashing amber.
Flashing amber (facing the pedestrian) means don't start crossing.

Once a pedestrian is crossing, they have right of way even if the lights change to 'red-man'. Motorists and cyclists must always give way to pedestrians once they are crossing. It does not matter if the pedestrian has ignored a 'red-man' or starts crossing on flashing amber. You're not allowed endanger or injure them & if you do, you'll be liable. Jay-waliking is a matter for the Gardai.
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I'd say it's just you
Apparently not
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Look, the red light/green green light laws could not be clearer. Stop on red go on green. There is no satisfactory explanation for anyone on any mode of transport who decides to break a red light. Level of risk depending on what mode you are using is not a factor...ever.
well considering you just got them wrong maybe they could...

Go on green only if safe to do so
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And you can go on red if it's road works and you can still see the back of the car in front of you.
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