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Schwanz · 13-03-2019 7:15pm

Acosta wrote: »

Will be interesting to see how they price it. A Bt Sport/Premier Sport pack alone would get you a lot of football.

Probably only a tenner more for the three though

Roland27 · 13-03-2019 10:03pm

For feck sake, just seen that news with Sky and Premier Sport. This is going to make it even more confusing. The only reason I joined Eir was to watch Serie A, who knows what's happening now. I've never had or wanted Sky TV, I'd hate to have to switch to them just to get access to Serie A.

This still gives hope I suppose, but all signs are that Eir are dead in the water.

"It is understood Sky is interested in talking to other platforms about the wholesale distribution of both Premier Sports and BT Sport to their services. This means Premier and BT channels may become available to Eir and Virgin customers if Eir and Virgin can agree a deal with Sky."

mikeym · 14-03-2019 12:29am

Does Premier Sport have a similar deal with Sky Uk?

icdg · 14-03-2019 9:19am

No, I thought they’d be glad to take the opportunity to offload that aspect of their operation to SSSL but not for the moment. BT have done such a deal however and it seems to have an extraordinarily long lead in period, it was announced back in 2017 and still hasn’t started.

17-03-2019 10:16am

The bottom line is that come next August three subs will be needed to watch one competition (the English PL). This is going to annoy the hell out of alot of people. Throw in the HD option, and the cost easily breaks the €100 per month barrier.

dulpit · 17-03-2019 10:32am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The bottom line is that come next August three subs will be needed to watch one competition (the English PL). This is going to annoy the hell out of alot of people. Throw in the HD option, and the cost easily breaks the €100 per month barrier.

My guess is it'll be 2 subs. Sky sports and then an extra pack which will get you bt and Premier sports. Can't imagine they'd just wholesale them separately...

swoofer · 17-03-2019 1:09pm

What does SSSL stand for?

The Cush · 17-03-2019 1:17pm

swoofer wrote: »

What does SSSL stand for?

Sky Subscribers Services Limited, a subsidiary of Sky plc

https://www.skygroup.sky/corporate/about-sky/regulatory

DrPhilG · 19-03-2019 2:59pm

I'm on the phone to Eir at the minute as my broadband is due for renewal.

I've been tied to them (although I don't tell them that) because they include free BT Sport and I need that for UFC coverage.

If they're definitely losing BT in August then I won't feel the need to sign up again now, Vodafone seem to have a better offer anyway.

Any word yet on the cost of BT sport via Sky?

mikeym · 19-03-2019 9:30pm

DrPhilG wrote: »

I'm on the phone to Eir at the minute as my broadband is due for renewal.

I've been tied to them (although I don't tell them that) because they include free BT Sport and I need that for UFC coverage.

If they're definitely losing BT in August then I won't feel the need to sign up again now, Vodafone seem to have a better offer anyway.

Any word yet on the cost of BT sport via Sky?

They might be able to keep BT but they will probably have to charge their E Vision customers extra for it.

Theres no word of pricing yet, Sky will probably do a bundle deal.

icdg · 19-03-2019 10:05pm

Wouldn’t expect word before June tbh.

flazio · 23-03-2019 1:03am

Does anyone know about those wavy lines which have been in the lower left corner of the Eir Sports channels and have now appeared on the BT Sport channels (on evision boxes) is it some sort of piracy tracker?

Tigerandahalf · 23-03-2019 9:29am

I was thinking it was to show that the content is streamed.

Now tv has a small white rectangle at the bottom right of the screen.

An Ciarraioch · 23-03-2019 9:34am

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

I was thinking it was to show that the content is streamed.

Now tv has a small white rectangle at the bottom right of the screen.

Would make sense - Sky has a pint glass on its soccer coverage to show that it's a feed directly to pubs, as visible when RTE broadcasts the goals on sports bulletins.

Roland27 · 29-03-2019 1:48pm

No Roma v Napoli on this weekend (Sunday 2pm KO)!

Instead they are showing a Connacht v Benetton PRO14 REPLAY on ES1, and Ajax v PSV on ES2. Pathetic coverage (and no I dont have FreeSports, I know the game is on that but I only have Eir TV). Eir are a ****ing shambles.

DrPhilG · 29-03-2019 2:18pm

I've switched to Pure Telecom so will be losing my free BT Sport.

Time to investigate how to get it directly without the Eir Sports pack.

Roland27 · 29-03-2019 3:43pm

Eir Sports now saying they don't have the rights to Serie A in Ireland:

https://twitter.com/eirSport/status/1111636034385833984

icdg · 29-03-2019 10:24pm

It’s not incorrect, technically speaking. It’s Premier Sports who have the rights. Think of eir Sport 2 as being like an “affiliate” of Premier Sports 1, in a network-affiliate sense of the term.

Anyway, that will all be over in the summer when they split completely.

mikeym · 04-04-2019 8:17pm

Eir Sport not showing Man City and Brighton this Saturday.

Why did they bother paying for rights to matches they cant broadcast?

lertsnim · 05-04-2019 11:14am

The rights should be taken off of them.

kooga · 05-04-2019 12:00pm

mikeym wrote: »

Eir Sport not showing Man City and Brighton this Saturday.

Why did they bother paying for rights to matches they cant broadcast?

game is on BBC 1

Mr.Maroon · 05-04-2019 12:31pm

When Sky takeover the distribution of Premier Sports in the summer - I presume we'll be getting both Premier Sports channels on the Sky EPG?

Acosta · 05-04-2019 12:33pm

Other than the odd LOI match, the FA cup is probably the only football they'll have next season. Unless they've lost that too.

icdg · 05-04-2019 5:23pm

Mr.Maroon wrote: »

When Sky takeover the distribution of Premier Sports in the summer - I presume we'll be getting both Premier Sports channels on the Sky EPG?

We don’t know what the arrangements will be yet. If they just offer the UK channels they’ll need to block all the Pro14 coverage, which is a lot.

icdg · 05-04-2019 5:34pm

Acosta wrote: »

Other than the odd LOI match, the FA cup is probably the only football they'll have next season. Unless they've lost that too.

Runs until 2021,I understand. They way you’ve phrased it is odd, they’ve the rights to 15 League of Ireland games - and they will show 15. They’ve the rights to “up to” 23 FA Cup games - the number is variable because of replays. But they’ve practically abandoned all live coverage of it this season because of the Pro14 deal.

Just to add though, that as pointed out above, most of their rights is to simulcast BBC fixtures, and there must be few people who have eir Sport and not the BBC (though I suppose app-only customers might fall into that category). The 3pms are a different kettle of fish, but that’s only five games at least two of which won’t feature Premier League teams.

dulpit · 05-04-2019 5:35pm

icdg wrote: »

Runs until 2021,I understand. They say you’ve phrased it is odd, they’ve the rights to 15 League of Ireland games - and they will show 15. They’ve the rights to “up to” 23 FA Cup games - the number is variable because of replays. But they’ve practically abandoned all live coverage of it this season because of the Pro14 deal.

To be fair, Pro 14 will get them more viewers than a simulcast of a game on BBC, so that's just sensible business...

icdg · 05-04-2019 5:39pm

Absolutely. More to the point they are supposed to be committed to showing every Pro14 fixture, though they haven’t always honoured that commitment. Be interesting to see what happens next weekend with the Masters taking up a chunk of prime time airtime on eir Sport 1.

Roland27 · 13-04-2019 8:31pm

Well, with the Masters on, its really fecked up any Serie A fans viewing. Only 1 Serie A game on - Chievo v Napoli. Premier Sports have 6 (including 2 on FreeSports).

Their Masters coverage is dreadful anyway, the ads are so ridiculously annoying (especially with that one same voiceover who does all the ads), everyone switches to the BBC for Sat-Sun (if you don't have Sky).

Arciphel · 15-04-2019 7:58pm

Dear Subscriber,

It’s been another great season of sport so far. It has been our pleasure to share these moments with you and so much more in full high-definition (HD) going forward.

Please note that from 16 May 2019, eir sport 1 & eir sport 2 will no longer be broadcast in standard definition (SD) on the Sky TV platform, and will only be available in HD. If the removal of the SD versions of the eir sport channels from the Sky TV platform causes you difficulties in accessing the eir sport service or if you have other queries, please contact our customer service team on 0818 203040 from 10am to 6pm Monday to Saturday.

The BT Sport SD channels will remain available on Sky TV, along with Boxnation SD. If you wish to upgrade your SD Sky TV box to HD you can do so by contacting Sky directly or find out more by visiting: www.sky.com/ireland/tv/sky-q/upgrade

We hope you will join us as we look ahead to another year of top quality LIVE action on the eir sport pack..

Yours faithfully
eir sport

dulpit · 15-04-2019 8:25pm

Can't imagine many people are still using SD only sky boxes..

icdg · 15-04-2019 11:14pm

Strangely enough, commercial customers (ie pubs) would be the places I’d most frequently see old Sky boxes - even ones with the original EPG occasionally!

This removes their ability to do the SD/HD split we saw during the Allianz Leagues - of course by the time next season comes around eir Sport 2 and Premier Sports 1 will be separate channels. I wonder what the reason for this is - preparation for the split perhaps?

dulpit · 16-04-2019 12:01am

I assume it'll save a few bob too?

icdg · 16-04-2019 8:39am

Might not in the overall scheme of things. At the moment eir Sport 2 and Premier Sports 1 are one channel so share their transmission costs. After the split what is now one channel will become two separate ones.

Presumably going forward, eir and Premier will be bearing their own transmission costs. In addition it may be that Premier will now need ROI specific channels, with the Premier League but without Pro14. Depends though - they had no issues with blocking hours of GAA coverage in Ireland on summer Sundays so maybe it will be the same with the Pro14.

mackersdublin · 16-04-2019 3:48pm

Premier Sports 1 is HD only on Sky in the UK. The SD version was removed when Premier Sports 2 launched last summer

icdg · 25-04-2019 2:30pm

https://www.eirsport.ie/availability-of-eir-sport-1-eir-sport-2-in-hd-only

Here’s a bit on the switch off.

Another possibility is that this is to make room for Premier Sports 2 HD and FreeSports HD.

Shero1985 · 25-04-2019 4:08pm

Can someone just clarify - with Sky teaming up with BT Sports, it means that BT Sports channels will be offered as part of an overall Sky package, but would be priced higher than the existing Sky packages including sports?

Also, this now means that BT Sports will simply be removed from existing Eir packages effective in June or July is it? So will the price of the Eir package be reduced?

joe_99 · 25-04-2019 5:27pm

Shero1985 wrote: »

Can someone just clarify - with Sky teaming up with BT Sports, it means that BT Sports channels will be offered as part of an overall Sky package, but would be priced higher than the existing Sky packages including sports?

Also, this now means that BT Sports will simply be removed from existing Eir packages effective in June or July is it? So will the price of the Eir package be reduced?

Premier Sports will also be included in the Sky pack

mackersdublin · 25-04-2019 5:29pm

Shero1985 wrote: »

Can someone just clarify - with Sky teaming up with BT Sports, it means that BT Sports channels will be offered as part of an overall Sky package, but would be priced higher than the existing Sky packages including sports?

Also, this now means that BT Sports will simply be removed from existing Eir packages effective in June or July is it? So will the price of the Eir package be reduced?

I don't think anyone here can answer either question. eir haven't confirmed what will happen when the BT channels leave the eir sport pack

icdg · 25-04-2019 5:43pm

Nobody can answer either question. No details on pricing have yet been unveiled.

The only comparable situation happened when Setanta GB went bust. The Setanta Sports Pack suddenly went from seven channels to two....and yes, they charged the same price for it.

If anyone thinks Sky are going to simply give away the BT Sport and Premier Sports channels, id suggest they have another think.

kooga · 25-04-2019 6:21pm

another issue will be whether you will be able to solely subscribe to bt sports and premiersport on the sky platform? will you have to take a sky basic tv package as well

Delta2113 · 25-04-2019 7:39pm

kooga wrote: »

another issue will be whether you will be able to solely subscribe to bt sports and premiersport on the sky platform? will you have to take a sky basic tv package as well

-Deffo have to have sky basic tv pack.

FreudianSlippers · 26-04-2019 8:37am

kooga wrote: »

another issue will be whether you will be able to solely subscribe to bt sports and premiersport on the sky platform? will you have to take a sky basic tv package as well

Surely it will be available on NowTV?

icdg · 26-04-2019 9:10am

Unclear on that one - the original, UK only cross supply agreement for BT Sport did say it would be available to BT Vision customers on Now TV. Not sure what the point of that would be, but anyway:

https://www.skygroup.sky/corporate/media-centre/articles/en-gb/sky-and-bt-agree-cross-supply-of-tv-channels

That still hasn’t launched, even in the UK, by the way - they seem to be waiting to start the UK and Ireland deals together.

As for Premier Sports, I doubt that will be made available on Now TV for now.

Mr.Maroon · 29-04-2019 7:54pm

Has a date been announced for when eir will lose the Premier Sport channels?
Sky take over the broadcasting of BT Sports on the 1st of August - but I can't find a date for Premier Sports.

icdg · 29-04-2019 9:52pm

Nothing announced, no, other than it’ll be before the start of the Premier League season. I wouldn’t be surprised if it also ends up being 1st August, but that’s pure conjecture on my part.

roadmaster · 01-05-2019 8:24pm

The Eir sport ads on radio at the moment say the channels are subject to change so is that a way of saying the BT channels will be going from the eir pack?

Delta2113 · 02-05-2019 10:02am

roadmaster wrote: »

The Eir sport ads on radio at the moment say the channels are subject to change so is that a way of saying the BT channels will be going from the eir pack?

- Might be more than just BT channels - this is to cover themselves.

Johnboy1951 · 02-05-2019 10:45am

roadmaster wrote: »

The Eir sport ads on radio at the moment say the channels are subject to change so is that a way of saying the BT channels will be going from the eir pack?

IIRC that has been the situation all along, so no change in terms ...... but maybe a change in preparing people for an upcoming change in available channels.

icdg · 02-05-2019 11:17am

Every pay TV provider includes that in their terms and conditions - they can’t be held responsible for third party channels. BT is (like eir) first and foremost a telecommunications company and there’s been several times over the last few years that management could have pulled the plug on the Sports business. I suspect eir management may be contemplating doing the same at the moment. Next year they will be really, really dependant on the Pro14 and they need to pull something out of the bag rights wise as many will be content to make do with TG4/S4C/FreeSports coverage of that competition. The Rugby World Cup will be a draw but they’ll be competiting with RTE for Ireland games and all the the other games will be on ITV, so perhaps not as compelling a proposition as may seem.

Personally I wouldn’t sign up to eir Sport at the moment without any clarity as to what will be included next season. The Pro14 is a big draw for me but I have to weigh up whether it’s worth €27 per month on its own, if that’s what they are going to continue to charge, particularly if BT Sport and Premier Sports are now more money on top of that.

Tigerandahalf · 02-05-2019 1:58pm

Eir need to go after the gaa.
What sort of money are Sky paying for the gaa in comparison to what eir are paying for BT sport?

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