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When will we fly again?

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    #62
    ShineOn7
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    SleetAndSnow wrote: »
    Ah meant May. Woops. :o


    Ah cool.


    Yes that's not happening


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    #63
    Padraig Mor
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    My poor Ryanair app is more red than blue these days.....:(

    508533.jpg


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    #64
    [Deleted User]
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    If I'd known the govt. were gonna send €350 to my bank account each week, I'd have hopped on the last flight into spain and isolated there for a while instead of here. I actually know one or two people over there that decided to stay put and 'extend' their holiday instead of coming home. Can't say I blame them.


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    #65
    _Brian
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    Massive improvements in air quality and drop in emissions since the planes were grounded.

    We seriously need to look at some way to keep flights under control.

    It might be a good time to slap €100 onto every plane and ferry ticket and €1000 onto every shipping container movement.


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    #66
    smelly sock
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    _Brian wrote: »
    Massive improvements in air quality and drop in emissions since the planes were grounded.

    We seriously need to look at some way to keep flights under control.

    It might be a good time to slap €100 onto every plane and ferry ticket and €1000 onto every shipping container movement.


    Wow


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    #67
    _Brian
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    smelly sock wrote: »
    Wow

    Yup.

    We’re doing a massive amount of nonsensical travel. People are buying container loads of tat for no good reason other than it’s so cheap. We have food being grown in polytunnel a in third world countries to provide crazy cheap options that destroys local growers.

    Make transport and shipping more expensive to curb its usage.


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    #68
    maestroamado
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    If I'd known the govt. were gonna send €350 to my bank account each week, I'd have hopped on the last flight into spain and isolated there for a while instead of here. I actually know one or two people over there that decided to stay put and 'extend' their holiday instead of coming home. Can't say I blame them.


    I believe isolation stricter in Spain here as people not allowed leave apartments/houses. The police are patrolling the streets i am told...


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    #69
    ShineOn7
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    _Brian wrote: »

    It might be a good time to slap €100 onto every plane and ferry ticket and €1000 onto every shipping container movement.


    Not going to happen for that amount of money plane ticket wise. The Aviation industry is on it's knees and it'll be an extra tenner at most.

    And taxing businesses who are trying to recover financially for using shipping containers?

    Not a feckin' chance


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    #70
    Granadino
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    If I'd known the govt. were gonna send €350 to my bank account each week, I'd have hopped on the last flight into spain and isolated there for a while instead of here. I actually know one or two people over there that decided to stay put and 'extend' their holiday instead of coming home. Can't say I blame them.

    I am based between here and there, and I was facing that a few weeks ago, and decided not to fly as I watched the way things were going in Spain. I have mixed feelings as I don't know when I'll be able to go back, so I'm here, and my girlfriend is there. More restrictions over there, so you can't go outside unless absolutely essential. So may as well be here, as you can't go outside over there.


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    #71
    ninebeanrows
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    Unsure of negativity in here, already signs restrictions on the continent will begin to ease by early May. We are only into this a few weeks, July is a long way away at this point, so much will happen between now and then.

    It's anybody guess what things will be like in 12-16 weeks.


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    #72
    ShineOn7
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    If I'd known the govt. were gonna send €350 to my bank account each week, I'd have hopped on the last flight into spain and isolated there for a while instead of here. I actually know one or two people over there that decided to stay put and 'extend' their holiday instead of coming home. Can't say I blame them.


    Who qualifies for this and for how long?


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    #73
    Gael23
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    The low cost airline model will struggle to survive this. If they are required to carry lighter loads thst means fares go up


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    #74
    Mitch Connor
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    Gael23 wrote: »
    The low cost airline model will struggle to survive this. If they are required to carry lighter loads thst means fares go up

    what would lighter loads achieve? the air is still recycled so would still cause the problem, whether I am beside someone or a seat over.


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    #75
    Gael23
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    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    what would lighter loads achieve? the air is still recycled so would still cause the problem, whether I am beside someone or a seat over.

    Would they not have to comply to social distancing?


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    #76
    billyhead
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    I was comparing the price of flights now to what I paid to the destination in Spain I have booked in September and they have increased by 50 euro. Prices may go up on all flights to recover some of the loss.


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    #77
    opinionated3
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    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    Unsure of negativity in here, already signs restrictions on the continent will begin to ease by early May. We are only into this a few weeks, July is a long way away at this point, so much will happen between now and then.

    It's anybody guess what things will be like in 12-16 weeks.

    I hope you're right...... Due to go to Portugal in September so it's fingers crossed at the moment. Having that said it's the least of our worries when we are in a situation where I can't even call to look after my mother cos my factory job is deemed "essential"....


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    #78
    theguzman
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    _Brian wrote: »
    Massive improvements in air quality and drop in emissions since the planes were grounded.

    We seriously need to look at some way to keep flights under control.

    It might be a good time to slap €100 onto every plane and ferry ticket and €1000 onto every shipping container movement.

    Just whack 10,000% tariffs onto everything Made in China and destroy their Communist Party and liberate the Chinese people. It would quickly force the multinationals to relocate manufacturing out of China.


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    #79
    Granadino
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    _Brian wrote: »
    Massive improvements in air quality and drop in emissions since the planes were grounded.

    We seriously need to look at some way to keep flights under control.

    It might be a good time to slap €100 onto every plane and ferry ticket and €1000 onto every shipping container movement.

    Imagine the world decided to go into a transport "lockdown" every year for a month or two. It won't happen obviously, but yeah would be great to see.


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    #80
    The One Doctor
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    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    I wonder when we will fly again?

    Is it very unrealistic to think we could be flying again and going on holidays in time for the August bank holiday?

    I'd be quietly confident that things will slowly get going again from June but like to hear what other people's opinions are?

    It depends where you want to go. Germany? Maybe July. Spain? Next year. UK? Next year. Italy? Same. US? God knows.

    Travel will probably be resumed to a country when everyone recovers plus fourteen days.

    Our hol has been cancelled but hell, I'd rather be inconvenienced then dead or very sick.


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    #81
    smelly sock
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    The One Doctor wrote: »
    It depends where you want to go. Germany? Maybe July. Spain? Next year. UK? Next year. Italy? Same. US? God knows.

    Travel will probably be resumed to a country when everyone recovers plus fourteen days.

    Our hol has been cancelled but hell, I'd rather be inconvenienced then dead or very sick.

    This all day long.

    My opinion differs a little though.

    I really think that Governments should be stepping in cancelling all non essential travel to Covid affected areas for the net 4-6 months. Take the choice out of peoples hands here.


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    #82
    DvB
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    smelly sock wrote: »

    I really think that Governments should be stepping in cancelling all non essential travel to Covid affected areas for the net 4-6 months. Take the choice out of peoples hands here.

    Agree, many people will still travel if flights resume, probably because they are happy to take the risk & to avoid losing out financially because airlines & insurance companies refuse to pay out refunds etc. thus potentially starting another chain reaction outbreak.
    I know its going to have a huge financial impact on the tourism industry but thats going to happen anyway, we really need to stop 100'000's of people, young, old and in between from suddenly starting hopping from country to country again so soon IMO.
    "I will honour Christmas in my heart, and try to keep it all the year" - Charles Dickens




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    #83
    cooperguy
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    _Brian wrote: »
    Massive improvements in air quality and drop in emissions since the planes were grounded.

    We seriously need to look at some way to keep flights under control.

    It might be a good time to slap €100 onto every plane and ferry ticket and €1000 onto every shipping container movement.

    Its not the plane groundings thats done it. Its the complete fall in industrial output. Flights are a couple of percent of pollution, its not really where the problem is.


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    #84
    Mr rebel
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    We’ll fly again
    Don’t know how, don’t know when
    But we’ll fly again some sunny day


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    #85
    maestroamado
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    smelly sock wrote: »
    This all day long.

    My opinion differs a little though.

    I really think that Governments should be stepping in cancelling all non essential travel to Covid affected areas for the net 4-6 months. Take the choice out of peoples hands here.


    If the current trend continues i expect very limited flights start to resume in about a Month, if this goes reasonably ok limited normal service about a Month later.
    I do not expect there to be any package tours this year. How individual hotels etc manage their end of the business will decide who feels safe to go on hols.
    I agree that things should shut down for as long as is necessary but Governments have to manage the money.
    If Governments thorought Europe are paying everyones wages and collecting no tax, how long is this sustainable?


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    #86
    smelly sock
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    maestroamado wrote: »
    If the current trend continues i expect very limited flights start to resume in about a Month, if this goes reasonably ok limited normal service about a Month later.
    I do not expect there to be any package tours this year. How individual hotels etc manage their end of the business will decide who feels safe to go on hols.
    I agree that things should shut down for as long as is necessary but Governments have to manage the money.
    If Governments thorought Europe are paying everyones wages and collecting no tax, how long is this sustainable?

    Ye looking like end of May start of June will be crucial here.

    Any community transmission and that'll be that for tourism you'd assume.

    Csn you see it being that clear in Spain by end of May start of June?


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    opinionated3
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    smelly sock wrote: »
    Ye looking like end of May start of June will be crucial here.

    Any community transmission and that'll be that for tourism you'd assume.

    Csn you see it being that clear in Spain by end of May start of June?

    A Spanish government minister was interviewed on CNN today. They are quite happy that they seem to be getting on top of things as regards new cases. She mentioned non essential workplaces reopening soon (thought she said next week but I might have misheard her) but when it came to travel she basically said it's not even being discussed at the moment.


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    #88
    smelly sock
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    opinionated3 wrote: »
    A Spanish government minister was interviewed on CNN today. They are quite happy that they seem to be getting on top of things as regards new cases. She mentioned non essential workplaces reopening soon (thought she said next week but I might have misheard her) but when it came to travel she basically said it's not even being discussed at the moment.

    They'll be slaughtered of they put tourism before peoples health.

    Only when they have no new cases should they re open the sorts.


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    #89
    otnomart
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    French minister advises the French against booking flights abroad this Summer
    https://www.bfmtv.com/economie/vacances-d-ete-borne-invite-a-rester-en-france-et-deconseille-de-reserver-des-vols-a-l-etranger-1890904.html


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    #90
    Gael23
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    smelly sock wrote: »
    They'll be slaughtered of they put tourism before peoples health.

    Only when they have no new cases should they re open the sorts.

    When it keeps your country alive maybe not


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    #91
    maestroamado
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    smelly sock wrote: »
    Ye looking like end of May start of June will be crucial here.

    Any community transmission and that'll be that for tourism you'd assume.

    Csn you see it being that clear in Spain by end of May start of June?


    I really have no idea when flights will resume.
    I do see Austria and i cannot remember where else saying starting to lift restrictions from next week.
    Also this is dangerous for our elected Governments as they are elected to distribute our taxes.
    At the moment they are paying people with money that is borrowed and will take a long time to recover.
    The political agenda at the moment Socialist and we have elected capitalist/consumer Governments for the most part in Europe.
    Qddly enough this evening on C4 news some senior guy in UK Government was talking when the Covid numbers started lowering how we would EXIT the lockdown and start returning to normal.
    He did not say a timeframe but it seemed to me from his tone he was not talking distant future,
    I do not know how world Governments can keep borrowing? it may be they can keep doing this as this international borrowing i do not really understand, if we Ireland say borrow enough are we owned by the Bank.


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