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Latest lineup for UFC 116, July 3rd, MGM Grand Las Vegas.

  • 29-03-2010 2:43pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,451 ✭✭✭✭


    Lesnar vs Carwin (HW title unification) - confirmed by DW
    Liddell vs Ortiz III - rumoured to be at 115 or 116
    W Silva vs Akiyama - confirmed by Silva
    Bonner vs Soszynski - confirmed by Bonner

    Shaping up nicely so far!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,256 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    Liddell vs Ortiz III - rumoured to be at 115 or 116

    This fight is now Liddell v Franklin at UFN 22 according to some reports.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,932 ✭✭✭YouSavedMyLife


    Liddell v Ortiz? Do we really need to see LIDL decimate Ortiz again? Silva v Akiyama should be a fun fight as will the Bonnar one. Dont really care for the Lesnar fight to be honest. Only gonna watch it to hopefully see Lesnar lose


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,256 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Liddell v Ortiz? Do we really need to see LIDL decimate Ortiz again? Silva v Akiyama should be a fun fight as will the Bonnar one. Dont really care for the Lesnar fight to be honest. Only gonna watch it to hopefully see Lesnar lose

    Really?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,451 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    This fight is now Liddell v Franklin at UFN 22 according to some reports.

    That was after rumours of Ortiz pulling out during filming of TUF but it's been denied by Ortiz and Dana White. DW even said that he was working on Franklin vs Randy Couture for 115.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,808 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    why the hate for Lesnar,
    I think the Chuck v Ortiz fight should be on a fight night, there both never going to be contenders again, but i can see why there is hype,


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  • Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭davmol


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    Lesnar vs Carwin (HW title unification) - confirmed by DW
    Liddell vs Ortiz III - rumoured to be at 115 or 116
    W Silva vs Akiyama - confirmed by Silva
    Bonner vs Soszynski - confirmed by Bonner

    Shaping up nicely so far!

    Are the UFC stuck for scraps with the repeats and repeat of a repeat of Liddel and ortiz.
    I didnt think bonner vs sosyynski was that good of a match initially to warrant a rematch


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,256 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    davmol wrote: »
    Are the UFC stuck for scraps with the repeats and repeat of a repeat of Liddel and ortiz.
    I didnt think bonner vs sosyynski was that good of a match initially to warrant a rematch

    It was the way in which it ended that warrants the rematch


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Liddell v Ortiz? Do we really need to see LIDL decimate Ortiz again? Silva v Akiyama should be a fun fight as will the Bonnar one. Dont really care for the Lesnar fight to be honest. Only gonna watch it to hopefully see Lesnar lose

    Well if he only destroys 10% of him Ortiz has a good chance of winning. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭ginoginelli


    I hope it turns out better than that. This is supposed to be their marquee event.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,256 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    I hope it turns out better than that. This is supposed to be their marquee event.

    I suspect another big fight here.

    Title fights in LW, WW and MW are possible given the timescale.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭ginoginelli


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    I suspect another big fight here.

    Title fights in LW, WW and MW are possible given the timescale.

    Hope so. An Anderson 205 bout with a game opponent would really beef up that card.

    Maybe throw fitch alves or fitch kos on it too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭sonic.trip


    Why the hell do we need to see soszynki (given up pn spelling that at this stage) beat bonnar again? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭Fromvert


    sonic.trip wrote: »
    Why the hell do we need to see soszynki (given up pn spelling that at this stage) beat bonnar again? :rolleyes:


    I dont know whether you are rolling your eyes at the thought of this fight or at the above poster. It's hard to tell.

    Bonnar deserves a rematch. If a fight goes into the third round and is stopped by a headbutt/groin shot etc, the ref should go to the judges. If he done this it would have been a draw. He didn't and Bonnar lost by TKO, the ref got it completely wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭sonic.trip


    he was all over him in that fight regardless though, cant see him winning the rematch


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,451 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Lesnar vs Carwin (HW title unification) - confirmed by DW
    W Silva vs Akiyama - confirmed by Silva
    Bonner vs Soszynski - confirmed by Bonner
    Pellegrino vs Sotiropolous - rumoured by MMAMania.com
    Reljic vs Grove - various rumours
    T Silva vs Bader - various rumours

    The date and venue have now been confirmed by the State Athletic Comission although not announced yet by the UFC.

    I could see the Bonner Soszynski fight and Reljic vs Grove if it happens both being on the undercard so hopefully a few good fights still to come for this. Reljic and Grove have both said they hope to fight on this card but it's just speculation that it will be against each other as Reljic is making his MW debut.

    Silva said he knows nothing about fighting Bader but I hope there is life in that rumour as it's a fight I'd like to see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭unknown13


    Reijic says he is down to return at 116 and Grove has said he expects return then but I have not heard about the two fighting each other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,451 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    unknown13 wrote: »
    Reijic says he is down to return at 116 and Grove has said he expects return then but I have not heard about the two fighting each other.

    Yeah as I say it's just speculation, but probably a fight that makes sense too.

    Chris Lytle vs Matt Brown is likely, could be a stormer.
    http://www.mmafighting.com/2010/04/21/chris-lytle-vs-matt-brown-in-the-works-for-ufc-116/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,451 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Also rumoured...

    Brian Foster vs TBC
    Nate Marquardt vs Alessio Sakara
    Roy Nelson vs Cheick Kongo - confirmed by Nelson
    Brendan Schaub vs Chris Tuscherer

    http://www.mmatorch.com/artman2/publish/UFC_2/article_5041.shtml


  • Registered Users Posts: 324 ✭✭magotch07


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    Also rumoured...


    Roy Nelson vs Cheick Kongo - confirmed by Nelson


    that would be interesting fight has he fought since tuf 10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,943 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    magotch07 wrote: »
    that would be interesting fight has he fought since tuf 10

    yeah, he knocked Stefan Struve out in first round a few weeks back.

    I got Big Roy for this, don't like Kongo, too boring and overated


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,451 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    scudzilla wrote: »
    yeah, he knocked Stefan Struve out in first round a few weeks back.

    I got Big Roy for this, don't like Kongo, too boring and overated

    Yeah agree that Roy takes it. Kongo is completely 1 dimensional and Roy is superb on the ground. Roy is no slouch on his feet either, Knockout of the Night award in his first 2 UFC fights.

    It's the battle of the physiques! Kongo looks like he was sculpted from steel, Nelson looks like a melted wax-work.

    Nelson has confirmed the fight too, excellent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,943 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    Yeah agree that Roy takes it. Kongo is completely 1 dimensional and Roy is superb on the ground. Roy is no slouch on his feet either, Knockout of the Night award in his first 2 UFC fights.

    It's the battle of the physiques! Kongo looks like he was sculpted from steel, Nelson looks like a melted wax-work.

    Nelson has confirmed the fight too, excellent.

    When ya look at Kongo ya think he's just gonna be a beast, but you're right, only has 1 thing goin for him.

    Cain threw him about like a rag doll for 15mins, I got Roy by unanimous decision here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,451 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    scudzilla wrote: »
    Cain threw him about like a rag doll for 15mins, I got Roy by unanimous decision here

    I'm not even that generous! Nelson by sub within the first 2 rounds. Kongo keeps blabbering about how much he has worked on his ground game and then keeps getting dominated on the ground.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭sonic.trip


    I think Fat Nelson is a one trick pony and is coming to the end of his ladder climb with kongo, that or kongo is getting ko'd in the first. should be a great fight though :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,451 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    sonic.trip wrote: »
    I think Fat Nelson is a one trick pony

    Which is his 1 trick then? The black belt in BJJ or the 2 first round KO's since arriving in the UFC? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭sonic.trip


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    Which is his 1 trick then? The black belt in BJJ or the 2 first round KO's since arriving in the UFC? :confused:

    Sorry, two trick pony

    How about the 20 crucixes by smothering opponents with his belly in TUF and the 2 ko's from his last 2 fights. Really hope kongo brings him down to reality in this one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    sonic.trip wrote: »
    Sorry, two trick pony

    How about the 20 crucixes by smothering opponents with his belly in TUF and the 2 ko's from his last 2 fights. Really hope kongo brings him down to reality in this one.
    2 tricks?
    BJJ Black Belt
    KO Power
    Very Strong Chin
    Excellent top control (which yes the belly helps with)
    Great cardio (can't remember seeing him gas in a long time)
    Yes he has an ego and a mouth but he can back it up.He was always the favourite to win TUF and deservedly so


  • Registered Users Posts: 390 ✭✭Nanoc


    I think Rampage said it best when he said

    "It's like havin the moon on you, how you gonna move with the moon sittin on you"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 810 ✭✭✭Fear Uladh


    I think the fat jokes are a bit immature, the guy is a great fighter, hope he knocks that french **** out(yes im an immature guy to what of it).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,943 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    Roy is a cool guy, he's done everything in UFC that's been asked of him, he risked a lot by going on TUF, if he'd lost in first round of fights it'd be a long way back for him.

    He won the series, with a first round KO, Beat Struve by KO in 1st round and more than that, the guy's a character.

    Hope he beats the ****e outta kongo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,451 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Crap!

    Might not happen at all now. Kongo says he has a back injury and may not be fit for July.

    Brian Foster is off the card too, he broke his leg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,451 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Blow of the potential loss of Nelson vs Kongo is softened by the arrival of Thiago Alves!

    http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/28/thiago-alves-ufc-fighter-brain-surgery-return-ufc-116-brain-irregularity-artery-vein/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭bret69


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    Blow of the potential loss of Nelson vs Kongo is softened by the arrival of Thiago Alves!

    http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/28/thiago-alves-ufc-fighter-brain-surgery-return-ufc-116-brain-irregularity-artery-vein/

    Some of the comments below that story are funny..."he never had a brain injury, it was all made up" and "this is NOT a sport"! Morons!


  • Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Roy Nelson thinks he's fighting Frank Mir.
    http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2010/05/01/roy-nelson-i-think-im-supposed-to-be-fighting-frank-mir/
    Roy Nelson: I think I’m supposed to be fighting Frank Mir
    Posted by M.C. Castaneda on Saturday, May 1, 2010 at 10:24 am· 14 Comments
    With a fight rumored for UFC 116 against the towering Cheick Kongo, The Ultimate Fighter Season 10 champion Roy Nelson (15-4 MMA, 2-0 UFC) recently paid a visit to the island of Oahu to corner a few of his students from his school including former TUF housemate Scott Junk (6-2-1 MMA) at the inaugural “Galaxy MMA: Worlds Collide” event on May 1 from the Neal S. Blaisdell arena in Honolulu, Hawaii.
    FiveOuncesofPain.com had the chance to sit down with “Big Country” during the event’s press conference to discuss his training partner, and his upcoming bout.
    During the filming of TUF season 10, Roy Nelson and Scott Junk developed a friendship that would carry on after the show. Looking to improve as a fighter, Junk enlisted the help of Nelson and took a trip to The Country Club in Las Vegas to work with Big Country.
    “Scott just wanted to up his game,” said Nelson, who went on to say that he felt he ‘could help improve Junk’s fundamentals…and make his game a little bit better.’
    When asked if Junk sought out Nelson’s help because Big Country owns a previous TKO victory when they faced each other in the IFL, Nelson replied, “It just happens that he [Junk] is fighting Fabiano…it’s just a coincidence.”
    When speaking about his rumored upcoming fight with Cheick Kongo at UFC 116 on July 3rd, Nelson was quick to respond, “I believe that is still part of the rumor mill, cause I think I‘m supposed to be fighting Frank Mir too.”
    Nelson went on to jokingly say, “I think I might fight them all in the same day.”
    While he believes that he is more likely to face Mir, nothing is official. That said Nelson has started formulating a game plan for both Kongo and Mir.
    When speaking about Kongo, Nelson stated that, “He’s right in the mix…he’s a tough guy, but the one thing he has lacked in the past is his wrestling.”
    Nelson went on to say, “I’m hopin’ I get the best Cheick Kongo that I’ve ever seen; if that’s the fight I fight.”
    Presuming that Nelson does fight Kongo on July 3rd, the question was posed whether he felt obligated to have a “patriotic” cage entrance since he would be somewhat representing the USA against a Frenchman the day before the Nation’s birthday.
    “I think maybe I might come in to the Star Spangled Banner, but I can always fall back to Weird Al… you know I’m Fat,’ said Nelson.
    Nelson will be on the island for another week, relaxing and taking a break before heading home to Las Vegas to start training. Against who is anyone’s guess.

    Good matchup.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,256 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    MMAJunkie.com

    The UFC today officially announced "UFC 116: Lesnar vs. Carwin" for July 3 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas

    MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) first reported the possibility of the event in February, and the UFC removed all doubt today.

    The event will feature its namesake participants, as UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar (4-1 MMA, 3-1 UFC) makes his long-awaited return to the cage and defends his title against undefeated interim champion Shane Carwin (12-0 MMA, 4-0 UFC).
    .


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Didnt Mir and Nelson bounce at the same clubs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭Sid_Justice


    not sure about that, there's a video on youtube of them competing at a grappling tournie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,451 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Might as well bump this back up now, event is only a few weeks away.

    Official card...

    Prelims
    John Madsen (5-0) vs Karlos Vemola (7-0)
    Daniel Roberts (9-1) vs Julio Paulinho (18-3)
    Gerald Harris (15-2) vs Dave Branch (6-0)

    Spike TV Prelims
    Kendall Grove (13-7) vs Goran Reljic (8-1)
    Brendan Schaub (6-1) vs Chris Tuscherer (18-2)

    Main Card
    George Sotiropolous (12-1) vs Kurt Pellegrino (21-4)
    Krystov Soszynski (20-10) vs Stefan Bonner (14-7)
    Chris Lytle (38-17) vs Matt Brown (13-8)
    Wanderlei Silva (33-10) vs Yoshihiro Akiyama (13-1)
    Brock Lesnar (4-1) vs Shane Carwin (12-0)

    Ricardo Romero vs Seth Petruzelli is also rumoured for the undercard but not confirmed on ufc.com as yet.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    Might as well bump this back up now, event is only a few weeks away.

    Official card...

    Prelims
    John Madsen (5-0) vs Karlos Vemola (7-0)
    Daniel Roberts (9-1) vs Julio Paulinho (18-3)
    Gerald Harris (15-2) vs Dave Branch (6-0)

    Spike TV Prelims
    Kendall Grove (13-7) vs Goran Reljic (8-1)
    Brendan Schaub (6-1) vs Chris Tuscherer (18-2)

    Main Card
    George Sotiropolous (12-1) vs Kurt Pellegrino (21-4)
    Krystov Soszynski (20-10) vs Stefan Bonner (14-7)
    Chris Lytle (38-17) vs Matt Brown (13-8)
    Wanderlei Silva (33-10) vs Yoshihiro Akiyama (13-1)
    Brock Lesnar (4-1) vs Shane Carwin (12-0)

    Ricardo Romero vs Seth Petruzelli is also rumoured for the undercard but not confirmed on ufc.com as yet.

    Still amazed they sign Seth and fired Kimbo in short order.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Anyone know when ods will be released for the fight? Would be interesting to see the odds on Lesnar Carwin. Wouldn't mind backing Carwin, would make it even sweeter if he won.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭ta2liam


    sheehy83 wrote: »
    Anyone know when ods will be released for the fight? Would be interesting to see the odds on Lesnar Carwin. Wouldn't mind backing Carwin, would make it even sweeter if he won.

    Brock Lesnar 8/15 v Shane Carwin 11/8

    odds are from paddy paddy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    ta2liam wrote: »
    Brock Lesnar 8/15 v Shane Carwin 11/8

    odds are from paddy paddy

    Thanks man! Now, since I don't have a clue about betting or ods, can you tell me if 11/8 is any good? And who do the bookies reckon will win?

    Sorry for my noobish gambling abilities :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭ta2liam


    sheehy83 wrote: »
    Thanks man! Now, since I don't have a clue about betting or ods, can you tell me if 11/8 is any good? And who do the bookies reckon will win?

    Sorry for my noobish gambling abilities :)

    11/8 means for every 8e you bet you will get 11e back or if you break it down for every 1e you bet you will get back 1.37e... its **** odds basically. Best odds i ever got for mma was hathaway against sanchez at 5/1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Excellent, thanks for the advice man. Won't be starting my gambling carrer just yet so :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,126 ✭✭✭✭calex71


    I'm looking forward to Chris Lytle vs Matt Brown, Wandi and Akiyama will either put us to sleep or knock us out of our seats I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,256 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    calex71 wrote: »
    I'm looking forward to Chris Lytle vs Matt Brown, Wandi and Akiyama will either put us to sleep or knock us out of our seats I think.
    2 of the most exciting guys in the sport! Potential for Fight of the Night!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,598 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    ta2liam wrote: »
    11/8 means for every 8e you bet you will get 11e back or if you break it down for every 1e you bet you will get back 1.37e... its **** odds basically. Best odds i ever got for mma was hathaway against sanchez at 5/1

    lol

    That's completely wrong.
    For every 8 you put down you get back 19, not 11. You win 11.
    good odds has nothing to do with price, its to do with chance of happening. Thinking 5/1 or 6/1 is a good price, and looking only at what you could win is a typical beginners mistake.

    Personally, I think this match is very close. Slightly in Brock's favour.
    I won't be betting on it though as with such a huge over-round, there is little value with more info on Brock's condition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,943 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    I think it's a pretty good price for Shane, i also think that Brock's lay off will affect him in a big way, Brock has never really been punched hard and had it followed up on, Carwin is the guy to do this.
    Randy and Mir both rocked Brock but didn't follow up, can't see Carwin make the same mistake.

    Gonna have a bet but will wait till PP release the special, as in method of victory.
    A KO/TKO for Shane should take the price up to maybe 2/1


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    scudzilla wrote: »
    I think it's a pretty good price for Shane, i also think that Brock's lay off will affect him in a big way, Brock has never really been punched hard and had it followed up on, Carwin is the guy to do this.
    Randy and Mir both rocked Brock but didn't follow up, can't see Carwin make the same mistake.

    Gonna have a bet but will wait till PP release the special, as in method of victory.
    A KO/TKO for Shane should take the price up to maybe 2/1

    Thats a good bet actually.

    I dont think the layoff while affect Brock too much due to all the conditioning training he does despite 2010 not being kind to returning fighters. On Brock's chin who knows but Id be amazed that Brock will keep it standing for that long.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,212 ✭✭✭Jaysoose


    scudzilla wrote: »
    I think it's a pretty good price for Shane, i also think that Brock's lay off will affect him in a big way, Brock has never really been punched hard and had it followed up on, Carwin is the guy to do this.
    Randy and Mir both rocked Brock but didn't follow up, can't see Carwin make the same mistake.

    Gonna have a bet but will wait till PP release the special, as in method of victory.
    A KO/TKO for Shane should take the price up to maybe 2/1

    Did they, i must have been away for a piss when this happened?

    I will be lumping on Carwin by ko/tko.....cant wait to see brock get tagged.


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