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All Ireland Senior Hurling (Liam Mccarthy Cup) 2019

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,099 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Limerick not as unbeatable as we all thought they certainly showed weaknesses today. Amazing week in hurling last week cork were finished this week they're one of the favorites for the all Ireland.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 943 ✭✭✭Vinnie222


    Limerick not as unbeatable as we all thought they certainly showed weaknesses today. Amazing week in hurling last week cork were finished this week they're one of the favorites for the all Ireland.

    Long way to go yet . Pressure is on Limerick now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    The calendar needs to be looked at and maybe put back a few weeks

    Some counties will have no intercoutny action after the 2nd weekend in bloody June.

    Imo this new calendar is killing the GAA. The Championships are competing with the ends of the Soccer, rugby seasons and other things like festivals, comunnions/confirmations etc.
    Far from killing the GAA but how do you change it unless you completely overhaul the whole structure of inter county season and way league is ran. Putting things back few weeks has big impact later in the year and impacts clubs even more so.
    There is festivals all summer so that is no excuse for competition.
    Bonniedog wrote: »
    I was glad the Communion got me out of going after what happened!

    Compressing the season is massive marketing fail. Good crowd in Cork and even that was down on sell outs that were the norm for Tipp/cork games, but other venues obviously hit by all the other stuff going on.

    The usual borefest of the EPL ended in a bit of excitement, which could not be foreseen, but a bit disturbing that so many people prefer watching that cr@p on the TV instead of their own neighbours playing hurling or football, or soccer for that matter.
    I wouldnt call it a marketing fail though if you feel it is then what do you change it to as going back to the traditional/"old" format cant be the way forward.
    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    there are clearly people making decisions in HQ that don't have a clue about the natural rythym of country GAA supporters
    But that natural rhythm needs to change for GAA to really compete against other sports in long term
    PTH2009 wrote: »
    This BS early championship calendar is working out for the GAA as they are attracting younger top standard players over too the US/Canada/Australia etc too play with clubs for the summer when there IC teams are out of the all Ireland and there clubs agree too hold off fixtures
    Croke Park needs to be harsher on counties who do that as clubs shouldnt be able to push back fixtures and allowing people go over to States during summer isnt what should be good for GAA.
    Two Munster games on TV today. Would it really cost RTE that much to stream one of the other games on the player? Useless shower
    Because they cant?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Limerick not as unbeatable as we all thought they certainly showed weaknesses today. Amazing week in hurling last week cork were finished this week they're one of the favorites for the all Ireland.

    We all thought?

    At the end of the day they were only ever marginal favourites for this year's All Ireland at any stage, if at all, and at long enough odds. This isn't prime Kilkenny we're talking about - I'm really struggling to see how so many are shocked about today

    Last year, they limped over the line against a woeful Galway performance, Cork had them at their mercy in the semi and they scraped by a rebuilding KK team, being essentially carried by a half fit Richie Hogan on the day. That was after not even making the Munster final.

    A commendable All Ireland win but nothing to suggest at all they would then become an "unbeatable" dominant force.

    The league was impressive yes, but its been very difficult to gauge league form in recent years.

    And who said Cork were finished last week? Even with a loss today they would be far from gone, given they've - on paper - the two easier games as their last 2.

    Still so much hurling to be played, but no-one is finished yet and no-one is close to unbeatable, even if Tipp are making some nice early running


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,580 ✭✭✭ArielAtom




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭mountgomery burns


    ArielAtom wrote: »

    Ah jaysus nothing to do with the Munster championship, a few clowns fighting is all. If they didn't do it there, be outside some pub


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    Ah jaysus nothing to do with the Munster championship, a few clowns fighting is all. If they didn't do it there, be outside some pub

    It's in a stadium at a match, can hardly wash the hands of it altogether.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭n32


    ArielAtom wrote: »

    nothing to do with munster championship or gaa in general. beered up scumbags is all that is. they are about as representative of the gaa as an orange order marching band!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭Motivator


    ArielAtom wrote: »

    Young Tipperary fans with terrible haircuts and skintight jeans fighting amongst themselves. They’ve been at it for years, nothing to see there to be honest. I remember being at the 2008 Munster Final and they were at the same carry but on a much larger scale. A couple of older Clare fans that somehow got mixed up with them got a few belts that day. Sadly this kind of behaviour has become synonymous with Tipperary over the years, I wouldn’t expect any different from them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,099 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Ah now I wouldn't be labeling tipp fans because of a few drunken thugs, the majority of their support are decent people, every county has there fair share of scumbags.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Motivator wrote: »
    Young Tipperary fans with terrible haircuts and skintight jeans fighting amongst themselves. They’ve been at it for years, nothing to see there to be honest. I remember being at the 2008 Munster Final and they were at the same carry but on a much larger scale. A couple of older Clare fans that somehow got mixed up with them got a few belts that day. Sadly this kind of behaviour has become synonymous with Tipperary over the years, I wouldn’t expect any different from them.
    Every county has idiots supporting them at games. Its not synonymous with Tipp at all. Ridiculous to say it is


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭Motivator


    Every county has idiots supporting them at games. Its not synonymous with Tipp at all. Ridiculous to say it is

    A few of them made shît of a pub on the road out of cork a few years ago after they played in Pairc Ui Caoimh. Same carry on as that today fighting amongst themselves and I’ve seen it in the Blackrock End over the years. Not a ridiculous thing to say as I’ve seen it with my own eyes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Motivator wrote: »
    A few of them made shît of a pub on the road out of cork a few years ago after they played in Pairc Ui Caoimh. Same carry on as that today fighting amongst themselves and I’ve seen it in the Blackrock End over the years. Not a ridiculous thing to say as I’ve seen it with my own eyes.
    You are tarring an entire county by actions of a minority but point is every county has idiots including your's(which is??) and you cant just criticise one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭lab man


    You are tarring an entire county by actions of a minority but point is every county has idiots including your's(which is??) and you cant just criticise one


    When da drink goes in the true colours come out ... simple


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    lab man wrote: »
    When da drink goes in the true colours come out ... simple
    But point is you cant typecast thousands and thousands of fans by the actions of a small minority


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    lab man wrote: »
    When da drink goes in the true colours come out ... simple

    I didn't see any of them with a drink in the video.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,174 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    ArielAtom wrote: »

    Only a fool would think that video has something to do with the Munster Championship.

    Couple of fellas throwing a few digs.


    Saw 2 fellas fighting in UCC once, numbers there have been falling ever since :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,580 ✭✭✭ArielAtom


    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    Only a fool would think that video has something to do with the Munster Championship.

    Couple of fellas throwing a few digs.


    Saw 2 fellas fighting in UCC once, numbers there have been falling ever since :rolleyes:

    And only a gob****e would try and make little of a punch up at a game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭topnotch


    In fairness there are idiots following every county.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,174 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    ArielAtom wrote: »
    And only a gob****e would try and make little of a punch up at a game.

    ...or convert a few slaps into an inquiry into the Munster Chaampionship ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭funnyname


    Something similar happened at the Tipp Clare game last year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    funnyname wrote: »
    Something similar happened at the Tipp Clare game last year

    And something similar happened in the limerick Clare games a few years ago


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,174 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    funnyname wrote: »
    Something similar happened at the Tipp Clare game last year
    And something similar happened in the limerick Clare games a few years ago

    Only thing for it is to cancel the Munster Championship :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    Only thing for it is to cancel the Munster Championship :pac:

    Yeah I agree,call it off!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭mountgomery burns


    Cancel the GAA altogether, let them play soccer or rugby stand. We can't let this violence stand.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Getting back to the hurling, it looks like a wide open championship. Cork were impressive yesterday. I think it's between them, Clare & Tipperary.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭Powerhouse


    [QUOTE=Mantis Toboggan;110225730]Limerick not as unbeatable as we all thought they certainly showed weaknesses today. Amazing week in hurling last week cork were finished this week they're one of the favorites for the all Ireland.[/QUOTE]

    So their loss to Cork only affected their degree of unbeatability? I am amused by the "shock" people in the media are feeling at the result in Limerick. Limerick drew with Cork and lost to Clare in Munster last year and failed to reach the Munster Final. They beat Kilkenny by two points, beat Cork after extra-time, and Galway by a point clinging on by their fingertips having led by 1-15 to 0-10 with 25 minutes to go. All worthy wins but no signs of unbeatability.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,580 ✭✭✭ArielAtom


    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    ...or convert a few slaps into an inquiry into the Munster Chaampionship ;)

    Well if is an enquiry you want, fill your boots. That was never mentioned, it was merely an observation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭ArnoldJRimmer


    Powerhouse wrote: »
    So their loss to Cork only affected their degree of unbeatability? I am amused by the "shock" people in the media are feeling at the result in Limerick. Limerick drew with Cork and lost to Clare in Munster last year and failed to reach the Munster Final. They beat Kilkenny by two points, beat Cork after extra-time, and Galway by a point clinging on by their fingertips having led by 1-15 to 0-10 with 25 minutes to go. All worthy wins but no signs of unbeatability.

    Yeah, but its the same thing every year in both codes. The media builds up this idea that a dynasty is starting rather than just appreciating the effort it took to get to that level in the first place. We've seen it with Tipp and Galway this decade too. Both fine teams, but there wasn't exactly a lot of daylight between them and the rest when they won.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭boggerman1


    As a Tipp fan of over 30 yrs the actions of them so called fans is shameful.they wouldn't know one end of a Hurley from the other.tanked up on booze probably clonmel chardonnay no doubt.they should be banned from gaa grounds for life but it won't happen.I stopped going to the terrace yrs ago due to the **** going on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭marvin80


    Motivator wrote: »
    Young Tipperary fans with terrible haircuts and skintight jeans fighting amongst themselves. They’ve been at it for years, nothing to see there to be honest. I remember being at the 2008 Munster Final and they were at the same carry but on a much larger scale. A couple of older Clare fans that somehow got mixed up with them got a few belts that day. Sadly this kind of behaviour has become synonymous with Tipperary over the years, I wouldn’t expect any different from them.


    Sadly these kind of sweeping statements have become synonymous with bitter Waterford fans over the years, I wouldn't expect any different from them.

    ;):D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    boggerman1 wrote: »
    As a Tipp fan of over 30 yrs the actions of them so called fans is shameful.they wouldn't know one end of a Hurley from the other.tanked up on booze probably clonmel chardonnay no doubt.they should be banned from gaa grounds for life but it won't happen.I stopped going to the terrace yrs ago due to the **** going on.
    Cant say these people dont know much on hurling more they see it as a ridiculously easy chance for a session.
    Banned from GAA grounds for life? Get a grip. If you act like this then you would have to ban a lot more people for other things they do during games


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭mountgomery burns


    Two arrested over it, dealt by with the gardai as it should be. Footage did not show how this was handled by stewards as it was a short clip.

    Not a blight on the Munster champioship, or Hurling, or the GAA or Tipperary or Ireland...just a few idiots. Let's move on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    boggerman1 wrote: »
    As a Tipp fan of over 30 yrs the actions of them so called fans is shameful.they wouldn't know one end of a Hurley from the other.tanked up on booze probably clonmel chardonnay no doubt.they should be banned from gaa grounds for life but it won't happen.I stopped going to the terrace yrs ago due to the **** going on.



    Lots of drink + gangs of young fellas =trouble!

    Nothing worse than standing near messy drunks even if only a small minority of them ever throw a dig at anyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,372 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    ArielAtom wrote: »

    A fair old brawl there. Some right belts thrown. Can't say I'm surprised though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 499 ✭✭Joe Daly


    Where was Marty Morrissey he did not sort it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,500 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Just wondering whether Wexford may have set something of a record at the weekend.

    Shane Reck was a late substitute, making his first championship appearance. He is an older brother of Damien that has been a regular for two years now. I can't recall an instance where a younger brother made a senior championship debut ahead of his older brother (certainly not for Wexford), and even if it has been done before, it must be rare.

    I know there are loads of wise heads on here that can give a definitive answer :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Just wondering whether Wexford may have set something of a record at the weekend.

    Shane Reck was a late substitute, making his first championship appearance. He is an older brother of Damien that has been a regular for two years now. I can't recall an instance where a younger brother made a senior championship debut ahead of his older brother (certainly not for Wexford), and even if it has been done before, it must be rare.

    I know there are loads of wise heads on here that can give a definitive answer :D

    Nearly certain Cathal Mannion made his championship debut in 2014 and Padraig would be a year old and made his debut in 2015.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭liogairmhordain


    Just wondering whether Wexford may have set something of a record at the weekend.

    Shane Reck was a late substitute, making his first championship appearance. He is an older brother of Damien that has been a regular for two years now. I can't recall an instance where a younger brother made a senior championship debut ahead of his older brother (certainly not for Wexford), and even if it has been done before, it must be rare.

    I know there are loads of wise heads on here that can give a definitive answer :D


    Kieran Bennett's two younger brothers (Stephen and Shane) both made their championship debuts for Waterford before he did


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Think Shane Bennett made his championship debut before older brothers Stephen and Kieran


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,887 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    KevIRL wrote: »
    Think Shane Bennett made his championship debut before older brothers Stephen and Kieran

    Think Stephen Bennett debuted first. He came on as a sub in the 2014 Wexford qualifier game


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭mountgomery burns


    Not sure where I read, but those Bennetts in Waterford...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,457 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Kieran Bennett's two younger brothers (Stephen and Shane) both made their championship debuts for Waterford before he did
    KevIRL wrote: »
    Think Shane Bennett made his championship debut before older brothers Stephen and Kieran
    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Think Stephen Bennett debuted first. He came on as a sub in the 2014 Wexford qualifier game

    Priceless :D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭BOSTIK


    Just wondering whether Wexford may have set something of a record at the weekend.

    Shane Reck was a late substitute, making his first championship appearance. He is an older brother of Damien that has been a regular for two years now. I can't recall an instance where a younger brother made a senior championship debut ahead of his older brother (certainly not for Wexford), and even if it has been done before, it must be rare.

    I know there are loads of wise heads on here that can give a definitive answer :D

    Rory Jacob made his Wexford senior championship debut while still a minor in 2002. Michael had played league before that alright but didn't play championship till 2003.

    In Tipp I can think of two examples. Benny Dunne made his senior championship debut in 2002 during Nicky English's reign but older brother Ken had to wait for Babs' second coming to get a championship bow in 2006.

    Kevin Tucker played in the 1996 & 1997 Munster Finals, his older brother Eddie didn't feature till 1999, making his championship debut against Clare in the drawn game (the replay never happened:mad:.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,500 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Thanks for the clarification lads. Still appears to be a rare enough occurrence.

    As for the weekend, the optimist in me is hopeful of a close game in Salthill. I see a clamour in Wexford quarters for Davy to set up more traditionally, and that may indeed catch Galway unawares, but I don't think he will change his set-up this far down the line. There may be a couple of positional tweaks for man-marking purposes, but with Galway down a couple of big hitters by all accounts, the individual battles become all the more important. Wexford may well be steeled by NOT losing last week, even if the goal was a sucker-punch at the time.

    IF the half-back line don't get exposed for pace (they are all well able to take a score), IF we fare better under our own long puck-outs, and IF we get a tune out of all five forwards, Wexford could well do a job.

    My team would be: Fanning; D.Reck, Ryan, D.Byrne; K.Foley; P.Foley, O'Hanlon, Murphy; O'Keeffe, Nolan; R.O'Connor, Chin, Dunbar; McGovern, McDonald. Plenty of scope for scores there with an improved showing from ROC, and Dunbar's pace. Ryan, Byrne (despite being a championship debutant) and Murphy on designated marking duty.

    Looking forward to the game now. Hon the yellabellys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,099 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Chin just isn't good enough on the frees at this level.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 407 ✭✭tipp_tipp_tipp


    God that was a shocking miss!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,704 ✭✭✭citykat


    Those purple shorts are awful


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    Chin just isn't good enough on the frees at this level.

    He was great last week in fairness.

    Shocking amount of wides here


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 407 ✭✭tipp_tipp_tipp


    Should have been a goal, crazy puckout!


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