Ireland to play Test Cricket in 2018?

garra · 13-05-2018 12:33pm

Guffy wrote: »

Pakistan declared at 310?

Yeah 309 for 9 declared. Gives em more time to bowl us out twice. Or so they think..!

VillaMad · 13-05-2018 12:34pm

Ireland's greatest ever batsmen Ed Joyce fittingly scores Ireland's first ever test match run.

BarryD2 · 13-05-2018 12:52pm

VillaMad wrote: »

Ireland's greatest ever batsmen Ed Joyce fittingly scores Ireland's first ever test match run.

And is gone. Ah well, it’ll be interesting to see if our lads can knuckle down and pick off runs. Surely we should be able to get 160 and avoid follow on? At least.

Royale with Cheese · 13-05-2018 1:00pm

This is not going well.

BarryD2 · 13-05-2018 1:02pm

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

This is not going well.

Complete disaster territory ðŸ˜©

dulpit · 13-05-2018 1:05pm

Ed Joyce is Ireland's highest ever test run scorer though...

What's record lowest innings btw?

Royale with Cheese · 13-05-2018 1:25pm

dulpit wrote: »

Ed Joyce is Ireland's highest ever test run scorer though...

What's record lowest innings btw?

26

Richard Hillman · 13-05-2018 1:31pm

Grim. Lots of bounce. Need to come out and score runs, get on the front foot, play some shots.

Royale with Cheese · 13-05-2018 2:04pm

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

26

Well at least that's been avoided now, first hurdle overcome.

CiarraiAbu2 · 13-05-2018 2:12pm

The two boys will have to put in an innings of a lifetime.

Derco · 13-05-2018 2:20pm

As often happens Stirling gets a rush of blood to the head just after he gets himself in. We'll be doing great to avoid the follow-on now.

At least we should try avoiding being included on this page..

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/wi/content/records/145832.html

Thompson in at 7. What's the story with Gary Wilson? I don't think I've ever seen a specialist batsman come in at 8 before. Is he injured?

Losty Dublin · 13-05-2018 2:29pm

Derco wrote: »

Thompson in at 7. What's the story with Gary Wilson? I don't think I've ever seen a specialist batsman come in at 8 before. Is he injured?

Took a bad knock in the nets this morning. He was subbed from fielding duties to give him a chance.

riffmongous · 13-05-2018 2:34pm

That was a beautiful shot down to third man

riffmongous · 13-05-2018 2:55pm

Thompson gone now, Kevin needs better support cause he is playing quite well

riffmongous · 13-05-2018 2:56pm

And Kane gone immeadiately

BarryD2 · 13-05-2018 2:57pm

Had hoped that Porterfield would put in an innings. Every now and then he does the business but again weaker teams?

Vlad Kelly · 13-05-2018 3:34pm

He's capable of putting together big scores against tough opposition, he scored a ton against a good England attack in an ODI in Malahde a few years back. Got to give Amir credit for that set up, he had beaten Porterfield's outside edge on a number of occasions in the previous deliveries and the wicket ball came back sharply. It's a classic set up from a world class performer in helpful conditions, would have done for plenty of top international openers around the world.

Mysterypunter · 13-05-2018 3:37pm

BarryD2 wrote: »

Had hoped that Porterfield would put in an innings. Every now and then he does the business but again weaker teams?

The whole team are past their peak, him especially. They had a good side a few years ago, but nothing coming through. Joyce, Niall O'Brien, about it. Stirling is a village green slogger. A throwback to amateur days

coldfire1x · 13-05-2018 3:48pm

Good to have the test status but the team needs new talents especially if they want to make test cricket interesting.

Vlad Kelly · 13-05-2018 3:48pm

Mysterypunter wrote: »

Stirling is a village green slogger. A throwback to amateur days

It's hard to believe your cricket experience goes back to the amateur days if you're as ignorant of Stirling's talent as that.

Mysterypunter · 13-05-2018 3:54pm

Vlad Kelly wrote: »

It's hard to believe your cricket experience goes back to the amateur days if you're as ignorant of Stirling's talent as that.

Not ignorant of his talent, just think a player of his ability should be playing every game for Middlesex as an opener, not dropped out of a county side, obvious what I'm getting at, amateur days. As in don't train too hard. Good eye, loads of natural ability, a bit like a cricketing Shane Lowry. Very good player, no doubt.

riffmongous · 13-05-2018 3:59pm

Well now 95-8 isn't all that bad now is it considering how the innings started.. the real danger always was we would set a load of new records and we've managed to get past that. Now if we can just avoid losing by an innings it'll be alright. Low expectations but realistic I feel

Royale with Cheese · 13-05-2018 4:01pm

Pakistan could well choose to bat again so the innings defeat might not be an issue.

BarryD2 · 13-05-2018 4:03pm

Vlad Kelly wrote: »

He's capable of putting together big scores against tough opposition, he scored a ton against a good England attack in an ODI in Malahde a few years back. Got to give Amir credit for that set up, he had beaten Porterfield's outside edge on a number of occasions in the previous deliveries and the wicket ball came back sharply. It's a classic set up from a world class performer in helpful conditions, would have done for plenty of top international openers around the world.

True, but one swallow never made a summer! Sort of the same in recent WC. Time like this you need the senior batsmen to stand true.

Royale with Cheese · 13-05-2018 4:21pm

Is there anyone else in the county championship with Irish relatives? Murtagh has comfortably been Ireland's best player thus far.

Derco · 13-05-2018 4:34pm

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Is there anyone else in the county championship with Irish relatives? Murtagh has comfortably been Ireland's best player thus far.

ECB are bringing in new rules in two years time classing Irish international players as overseas players. That would pretty much close of the 'granny rule' route in future. Infact we could have a situation where young Irish homegrown talent could have to choose between an international career and a county one.

Royale with Cheese · 13-05-2018 4:42pm

The same ECB that were only too happy to encourage Irish players to qualify for England, give them a handful of games so they were no longer eligible for Ireland, and then discard them...

Conchir · 13-05-2018 4:54pm

And that’s the innings, Murtagh out caught. I have to say, 130 is a decent total considering how we started. Fair play to Wilson, it was clear he was in serious pain, it would have ended much earlier without his contribution.

BarryD2 · 13-05-2018 4:55pm

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

The same ECB that were only too happy to encourage Irish players to qualify for England, give them a handful of games so they were no longer eligible for Ireland, and then discard them...

International sport is sure murky and in particular, the politics of English soccer and cricket is cloak and dagger!

Derco · 13-05-2018 4:55pm

130 in the end. At least 60 more than I thought we'd get at lunch. Good effort in the circumstances. Now will Sarfraz put us in again?

Edit: He is

BarryD2 · 13-05-2018 4:57pm

Now we’ll see what our openers are made of. Let’s hope they can hang tough.

BarryD2 · 13-05-2018 5:46pm

Good start but they mustn’t lose the head. Need to soak up a LOT of overs. Need to batting thru tomorrow and into next day to have a chance of a draw even.

Mysterypunter · 13-05-2018 6:19pm

50-0 now, good job. Stuart Poynter made 170 for Durham in the county championship. Good on him

Mysterypunter · 13-05-2018 6:56pm

Got to 64-0 at the close 116 behind

Derco · 13-05-2018 7:01pm

Good opening stand to end the day. I was fearing a lot worse a few hours ago

HonalD · 13-05-2018 7:35pm

Derco wrote: »

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Is there anyone else in the county championship with Irish relatives? Murtagh has comfortably been Ireland's best player thus far.

ECB are bringing in new rules in two years time classing Irish international players as overseas players. That would pretty much close of the 'granny rule' route in future. Infact we could have a situation where young Irish homegrown talent could have to choose between an international career and a county one.

It’s not a new rule. All other Test playing nation squads are subject to the same rule. Ireland has got an extension of the status quo for existing players contracts, as far as I’ve been informed.

Drifter50 · 13-05-2018 8:59pm

As far as I know the 2 Poynter brothers have both retired from international cricket. Maybe someone here can confirm if Stuart or Andrew are still available. Playing regular 1st team county cricket is where our guys need to be

Derco · 13-05-2018 9:25pm

Drifter50 wrote: »

As far as I know the 2 Poynter brothers have both retired from international cricket. Maybe someone here can confirm if Stuart or Andrew are still available. Playing regular 1st team county cricket is where our guys need to be

Andrew is retired alright. AFAIK Stuart is still involved. I think he had to miss the World Cup qualifiers due to his other half having a baby. He played in the ODI series v the UAE earlier this year.

BarryD2 · 13-05-2018 9:29pm

Joyce snd Porters done well to get thru to end day. Nicely poised, first session tomorrow important. What’s most we likely score in day at this level, 250ish? That’d give lead of c 150, too small, so really need to also bat 1st session on Tues to have a chance.

BarryD2 · 13-05-2018 9:32pm

Assuming weather doesn’t rescue us!

Mint Sauce · 14-05-2018 9:55am

What time does play start today? Guerilla seems to be playing a repeat.

Skid X · 14-05-2018 10:59am

11am start today

Looks like a lot of cloud cover, batting conditions might be trickier than yesterday.

I'd be happy to see Ireland force Pakistan to bat again. Anything else would be a bonus.

Mint Sauce · 14-05-2018 11:01am

Skid X wrote: »

11am start today

Looks like a lot of cloud cover, batting conditions might be trickier than yesterday.

I'd be happy to see Ireland force Pakistan to bat again. Anything else would be a bonus.

I'm confused. Pakistan put Ireland back into bat, so I thought that meant they forfit their 2nd innings.

dulpit · 14-05-2018 11:06am

Mint Sauce wrote: »

I'm confused. Pakistan put Ireland back into bat, so I thought that meant they forfit their 2nd innings.

It's called a follow-on. If the team batting 2nd have a 'mare (like we did) and don't get close to the first team's score, they can be made to bat again. The idea is that it gives the first team a much better shout of winning, because the second team will be much less likely to be able to slow play for a draw...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Follow-on

Of note - only 3 teams have won a test match after being made follow-on...

Skid X · 14-05-2018 11:11am

Mint Sauce wrote: »

I'm confused. Pakistan put Ireland back into bat, so I thought that meant they forfit their 2nd innings.

No, Pakistan will bat again if they need to.

They had they right to ask Ireland to bat next, because they were more than 150 runs ahead. (normally has to be more than 200, but it's 150 because there was no play on Day 1)

The reason a team chooses the follow on is normally to press their advantage and give them a better chance of bowling out the other side in the time remaining (and the time remaining is uncertain because there might be more rain)

BarryD2 · 14-05-2018 11:17am

Why, why, why???? It's as clear as day that we don't need to push the score so why on earth are they going for quick singles like a T20 or ODI?????? And losing Joyce.. self destruct stuff.

Mint Sauce · 14-05-2018 11:18am

dulpit wrote: »

It's called a follow-on. If the team batting 2nd have a 'mare (like we did) and don't get close to the first team's score, they can be made to bat again. The idea is that it gives the first team a much better shout of winning, because the second team will be much less likely to be able to slow play for a draw...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Follow-on

Of note - only 3 teams have won a test match after being made follow-on...

Ah. I always thought the follow on basically meant, we are going to take a chance here, we think we are far enough ahead, and going to forefit our second innings, make you bat again, hoping both your innings, don't beat our one.

BarryD2 · 14-05-2018 11:20am

Mint Sauce wrote: »

I'm confused. Pakistan put Ireland back into bat, so I thought that meant they forfit their 2nd innings.

Follow on puts us under big pressure - to rescue a draw, we've basically got to bat as long as possible into tomorrow. In theory, we could knock off 300-400 runs and then bowl Pakistan out, but we don't have that luxury of talent or position to do this.

Derco · 14-05-2018 11:23am

A pair for Balbirnie

minitrue · 14-05-2018 11:34am

Joyce in the first innings, Balbirnie there and one of the Pakistanis, have to think all would have been saved by DRS (perhaps one or two more that might have been given). Don't think it's been a great Test by the Umpires (maybe not both, I can't remember for sure who gave and didn't give them all).

And what the heck is with the running this morning!

Ireland to play Test Cricket in 2018?

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