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  • #2652
    Hands Like Flippers
    Registered Users Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Hands Like Flippers


    So u18 inter Pro following same format as last year.

    Anyone know who the warm up games are against? Generally late July/early August.


  • #2653
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Hands Like Flippers wrote: »
    So u18 inter Pro following same format as last year.

    Anyone know who the warm up games are against? Generally late July/early August.

    There's a couple of Ennis lads pushing for Munster places, does anyone have any squad information? Seems very hard to come by


  • #2654
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,112 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Clareman wrote: »
    There's a couple of Ennis lads pushing for Munster places, does anyone have any squad information? Seems very hard to come by

    They have put together a 30 player squad for the summer training with another 15 or so that will attend some but not all of the sessions.

    This is a combined club/school squad

    As I understand it , the 30 players will attend a full residential training over a few weeks , all staying in UL for 4/5 days at a time. The other ~15 will not stay over but will attend on a day to day basis.

    There are 3 Ennis players in the initial 30 player squad.


  • #2655
    The Lost Sheep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Hands Like Flippers wrote: »
    So u18 inter Pro following same format as last year.

    Anyone know who the warm up games are against? Generally late July/early August.
    Some of the provinces will play each other as well as academy teams from english/french sides.
    Clareman wrote: »
    There's a couple of Ennis lads pushing for Munster places, does anyone have any squad information? Seems very hard to come by
    Wont be published until the interpro series. Rarely is though Munster usually are best at publishing squad lists before
    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    They have put together a 30 player squad for the summer training with another 15 or so that will attend some but not all of the sessions.

    This is a combined club/school squad

    As I understand it, the 30 players will attend a full residential training over a few weeks, all staying in UL for 4/5 days at a time. The other ~15 will not stay over but will attend on a day to day basis.

    There are 3 Ennis players in the initial 30 player squad.
    Why combined club/school squad?
    And only 30 in main residential training?


  • #2656
    Quin_Dub
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Some of the provinces will play each other as well as academy teams from english/french sides.

    Wont be published until the interpro series. Rarely is though Munster usually are best at publishing squad lists before

    Why combined club/school squad?
    And only 30 in main residential training?

    On the Club/School thing - That's just how they have decided to move forward , they are working the players together as a single squad and removing the club/school divide.

    Potentially it's a good idea if it's done fully on merit and not with some pseudo quota thing going on in the background.

    As for the Residential training decision - No idea why they are limiting it to the 1st 30 - No sure if space/cost is a possible factor.


  • #2657
    The Lost Sheep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    On the Club/School thing - That's just how they have decided to move forward , they are working the players together as a single squad and removing the club/school divide.

    Potentially it's a good idea if it's done fully on merit and not with some pseudo quota thing going on in the background.

    As for the Residential training decision - No idea why they are limiting it to the 1st 30 - No sure if space/cost is a possible factor.
    Good to see moving forward. would be shame though to lose out on players if cutting down squads to an extent.
    If based in Limerick cant see space being a factor but cost could.


  • #2658
    The Lost Sheep
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    Warm up games started. EIRA an American side currently on tour and playing sides from each province


  • #2659
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,112 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    List of Munster Underage InterPro Fixtures.


    Squad Date Time Fixture Opposition Venue MD Remarks
    Womens Senior 17 August 2019 1500 Interpro 1 Ulster IIP Double Header
    24 August 2019 TBD Interpro 2 Connacht Away N/A
    31 August 2019 1500 Interpro 3 Leinster IIP Double Header
    14 September 2019 TBD Semi-Final TBD TBD N/A
    21 September 2019 TBD Final TBD TBD N/A


    U19s 16 August 2019 1800 Interpro 1 Connacht Thomond Park
    21 August 2019 TBD Interpro 2 Ulster Away N/A
    25 August 2019 TBD Interpro 3 Leinster TBD N/A Double Header - Venue TBD


    U18 Girls 10 August 2019 TBD Friendly Touring Team IIP N/A
    17 August 2019 1300 Interpro 1 Ulster IIP Double Header
    24 August 2019 1300 Interpro 2 Connacht Away N/A
    31 August 2019 1300 Interpro 3 Leinster IIP Double Header
    14 September 2019 TBD Semi-Final TBD TBD N/A
    21 September 2019 TBD Final TBD TBD N/A


    U18 Schools 17 August 2019 1300 Round 1 IQ Rugby UL N/A Festival of Rugby UL
    21 August 2019 1500 Round 2 Ulster UL N/A
    25 August 2019 1700 Round 3 Leinster UL N/A


    U18 Clubs 17 August 2019 1900 Round 1 Leinster UL N/A Festival of Rugby UL
    21 August 2019 1300 Round 2 Ulster UL N/A
    25 August 2019 1500 Round 3 Connacht UL N/A


    U17s 20 July 2019 1400 Friendly EIRA(USA) IIP N/A
    27 July 2019 TBD Interpro Blitz TBD Enfield N/A
    06 August 2019 1100 Friendly Sale Sharks UL N/A
    06 August 2019 1230 Friendly Sale Sharks UL N/A


    U16's 20 August 2019 TBD Friendly Leinster Waterford N/A
    21 August 2019 TBD Friendly Connacht UL N/A


  • #2660
    The Lost Sheep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Leinster u18s and 19s squads up
    https://www.leinsterrugby.ie/leinster-rugby-u18-clubs-squad-named-for-blitz/


  • #2661
    Clareman
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Leinster u18s and 19s squads up
    https://www.leinsterrugby.ie/leinster-rugby-u18-clubs-squad-named-for-blitz/

    Does anyone know if the Munster squads are available? Can't see anything on the website, there's a couple of Ennis lads that were on the team last year that I'm wondering if they are on the squad now.


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  • #2662
    The Lost Sheep
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    Clareman wrote: »
    Does anyone know if the Munster squads are available? Can't see anything on the website, there's a couple of Ennis lads that were on the team last year that I'm wondering if they are on the squad now.
    nothing published yet. Squads have been playing warn ups and will be confirmed before start of interpros in few days time


  • #2663
    Quin_Dub
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    Clareman wrote: »
    Does anyone know if the Munster squads are available? Can't see anything on the website, there's a couple of Ennis lads that were on the team last year that I'm wondering if they are on the squad now.

    There are 3 Ennis players involved - 8,9 & 10


  • #2664
    realhorrorshow
    Registered Users Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    There are 3 Ennis players involved - 8,9 & 10

    Have heard 9 is a serious talent.


  • #2665
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,112 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    realhorrorshow wrote: »
    Have heard 9 is a serious talent.

    Very good player , but the 8 and the 10 have better long term potential in my view..

    The 8 is very young but already a serious specimen - U18 this year , but not yet 17 years old , will have a 3rd year at this level now that it's gone to U18.5


  • #2666
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    realhorrorshow wrote: »
    Have heard 9 is a serious talent.

    Is that the Coughlan lad? Serious talent at all sports, won the under 16 with Barefield in both hurling and football I think, he also is a place kicker, was capped against Italy last year


  • #2667
    Hands Like Flippers
    Registered Users Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Hands Like Flippers


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Very good player , but the 8 and the 10 have better long term potential in my view..

    The 8 is very young but already a serious specimen - U18 this year , but not yet 17 years old , will have a 3rd year at this level now that it's gone to U18.5

    What do you mean 18.5?


  • #2668
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,112 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Hands Like Flippers wrote: »
    What do you mean 18.5?

    In Munster, since last season the "U18" competitions are actually Under 18.5.

    So for this season anyone born after July 1st 2001 is underage

    That means that anyone from 01/07/2001 to 31/12/2003 is in the same Age group.


  • #2669
    The Lost Sheep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Hands Like Flippers wrote: »
    What do you mean 18.5?
    under 18 rugby in connacht, Munster, leinster is played with age eligibility date as July 1st not January 1st like the under 13 to 17 grades.
    So it's under 18.5...


  • #2670
    Hands Like Flippers
    Registered Users Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Hands Like Flippers


    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    under 18 rugby in connacht, Munster, leinster is played with age eligibility date as July 1st not January 1st like the under 13 to 17 grades.
    So it's under 18.5...

    Ulster aren't doing that. It's strictly 03 and 02.


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  • #2671
    The Lost Sheep
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    Hands Like Flippers wrote: »
    Ulster aren't doing that. It's strictly 03 and 02.
    typical....
    Ulster always like to do it different from the rest. Changed to different grades before others did....


  • #2672
    The Lost Sheep
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    Munster u19s beat connacht 23-13 tonight


  • #2673
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Under 18 Club and Schools teams named

    https://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic_news/munster-u18-clubs-and-schools-named/


  • #2674
    Hands Like Flippers
    Registered Users Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Hands Like Flippers


    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    under 18 rugby in connacht, Munster, leinster is played with age eligibility date as July 1st not January 1st like the under 13 to 17 grades.
    So it's under 18.5...

    Why did it change?


  • #2675
    Hands Like Flippers
    Registered Users Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Hands Like Flippers


    Anyone see any of the u18 games today?


  • #2676
    The Lost Sheep
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    Friend saw some of the Munster leinster clubs game. Wasnt able to go myself as was travelling. Should be able to go to some of the next rounds.

    Didn't think Munster were great. Leinster quite impressive


    https://www.irishrugby.ie/2019/08/17/u18-mens-interprovincial-festival-round-1-results/


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  • #2677
    The Lost Sheep
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    Hands Like Flippers wrote: »
    Why did it change?
    Imagine clubs see change will get more playing


  • #2678
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,112 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Imagine clubs see change will get more playing

    The main reason is too bridge the gap to U20 ( which is actually 20.5 too) and to Adult.. with U18 you had players that were still 17 years old at the start of the season meaning they couldn't play junior rugby until potentially the new year as you have to be over 18 years old to play Adult rugby.


  • #2679
    Garfin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Garfin


    Hands Like Flippers wrote: »
    Why did it change?
    Club rugby is 18.5 July 1st in Connacht so players don't get caught in no mans land where they are too young for adult rugby but too old for U18. The rep sides are Jan 1st for all the teams U16, U17, U18, U19.


  • #2680
    Hands Like Flippers
    Registered Users Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Hands Like Flippers


    [quote="Garfin;111014356" The rep sides are Jan 1st for all the teams U16, U17, U18, U19.[/quote]

    So is the connacht team playing interpro u18. 5 or u18? I'm thoroughly confused lol


  • #2681
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,112 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Hands Like Flippers wrote: »
    So is the connacht team playing interpro u18. 5 or u18? I'm thoroughly confused lol

    The Rep sides are all Calendar year.

    The club competitions are now at 18.5 everywhere except Ulster


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  • #2682
    Garfin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Garfin


    Hands Like Flippers wrote: »
    So is the connacht team playing interpro u18. 5 or u18? I'm thoroughly confused lol
    As above all the Connacht youth teams(U16,17,18,19) are 1st of Jan 2020, as are all the club cup and league grades with the exception being U18.5 boys and girls for the reasons previously referenced.


  • #2683
    The Lost Sheep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    The main reason is too bridge the gap to U20 ( which is actually 20.5 too) and to Adult.. with U18 you had players that were still 17 years old at the start of the season meaning they couldn't play junior rugby until potentially the new year as you have to be over 18 years old to play Adult rugby.
    the birding gap to 20snisnt helping more clubs field at 20s or keep players interested as beyond a few city clubs no clubs play regular under 20 rugby through season in Munster.
    Connacht doesn't have a league at 20s but still has been blitz style competitions for clubs at u20 grade past few seasons.
    Hands Like Flippers wrote: »
    So is the connacht team playing interpro u18. 5 or u18? I'm thoroughly confused lol
    its not that confusing..
    All rep sides in Ireland are calender year playing off January 1st eligibility criteria
    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    The Rep sides are all Calendar year.

    The club competitions are now at 18.5 everywhere except Ulster
    crazy that we cant get all provinces to have same system.


  • #2684
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,112 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    the birding gap to 20snisnt helping more clubs field at 20s or keep players interested as beyond a few city clubs no clubs play regular under 20 rugby through season in Munster.
    Connacht doesn't have a league at 20s but still has been blitz style competitions for clubs at u20 grade past few seasons.

    I'd agree - The U20 competitions (excluding Leinster) are generally a mess as there are simply not enough clubs fielding teams.

    In Munster you have 50-60 clubs fielding teams in the Munster Cup/Plate/Bowl competitions at U18.5 each year , but at best about a dozen fielding teams at U20. That's a huge drop off.

    There was a proposal to shift Youths to U19 and scrap the U20 level in Munster entirely.

    That would bring the competition back under Youth Rugby and might help keep players playing immediately after they leave school , but it was rejected.

    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    crazy that we cant get all provinces to have same system.

    Ulster are always different , Junior cup is U15 there , U16 everywhere else as well.


  • #2685
    The Lost Sheep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    I'd agree - The U20 competitions (excluding Leinster) are generally a mess as there are simply not enough clubs fielding teams.

    In Munster you have 50-60 clubs fielding teams in the Munster Cup/Plate/Bowl competitions at U18.5 each year , but at best about a dozen fielding teams at U20. That's a huge drop off.

    There was a proposal to shift Youths to U19 and scrap the U20 level in Munster entirely.

    That would bring the competition back under Youth Rugby and might help keep players playing immediately after they leave school , but it was rejected.
    there is too much focus of some clubs having to be at top table in 20s. And then all senior clubs in cities at that level and not wanting to be in a second division and many rural clubs simply wont be able to compete with the cons etc at 20s so then dont field. 10 Years ago there was strong division 2 for clubs like kilfeacle, nenagh, dolphin,
    Moving back to 19s isnt the answer
    Getting more one off blitz days and putting them into a series would be a step forward
    Ulster are always different, Junior cup is U15 there , U16 everywhere else as well.
    I know. But isnt it u15.5....


  • #2686
    Garfin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Garfin


    https://www.connachtrugby.ie/two-changes-to-connacht-u19-team-for-visit-of-leinster/
    Connacht U19s named for tomorrows game with Leinster.

    CONNACHT U19s v LEINSTER, 2.30pm 21st August 2019 @ The Sportsground
    1. Conal O’Griofa (Corinthians RFC)
    2. Eoin DeBuitléar (Corinthians RFC)
    3. Alan Duffy (Ballina RFC)
    4. Cathal Fleming (Monivea RFC)
    5. Darragh Murray (Buccaneers RFC)
    6. Diarmuid McCormack (C) (Corinthians RFC)
    7. Gavin Meagher (Roscrea RFC)
    8. Donnacha Byrne (Sligo RFC)
    9. Aodha Hession (Creggs RFC)
    10. Cian Treacy (Ballinasloe RFC)
    11. Rory McCleane (Corinthians RFC)
    12. Cathal Forde (Corinthians RFC)
    13. Shane Jennings (Ballinasloe RFC)
    14. Hubert Gilvarry (Sligo RFC)
    15. Conor O’Shaughnessy (Galwegians RFC)
    16. Matthew Earley (Carrick RFC)
    17. Caolan Hopkins (Ballina RFC)
    18. Cian Scanlon (Corinthians RFC)
    19. Martin Fallon (Buccaneers RFC)
    20. Hubert Costello (Corinthians RFC)
    21. Harry Ballsiger (Buccaneers RFC)
    22. Luke Hogge (Sligo RFC)
    23. Diarmuid Kilcommins (Corinthians RFC)


  • #2687
    realhorrorshow
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    Connacht 7-0 up with 20 minutes played on a rotten day in Galway.


  • #2688
    realhorrorshow
    Registered Users Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    7-0 at half time. An individual effort from Shane Jennings the difference between the sides. Connacht were winning the vast majority of collisions but Leinster seemed to be turning the tide somewhat in the last 10 minutes or so.


  • #2689
    Garfin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Garfin


    realhorrorshow wrote: »
    7-0 at half time. An individual effort from Shane Jennings the difference between the sides. Connacht were winning the vast majority of collisions but Leinster seemed to be turning the tide somewhat in the last 10 minutes or so.
    Delighted with that news Shane is a special player, this game was always going to be a big ask especially after the contrasting fortunes at the weekend. Hopefully they will be able to sustain their competitiveness in the second half.


  • #2690
    realhorrorshow
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    7-7, try for Osborne was too easy.


  • #2691
    realhorrorshow
    Registered Users Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    14-7, Jennings again.


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  • #2692
    realhorrorshow
    Registered Users Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Try for Soroka under the sticks, 14-14. Connacht 18 in the bin.


  • #2693
    realhorrorshow
    Registered Users Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    14-17


  • #2694
    Garfin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Garfin


    realhorrorshow wrote: »
    Try for Soroka under the sticks, 14-14. Connacht 18 in the bin.
    He is a quality player saw him last year in UL U18s Interpros and he was the standout player.


  • #2695
    realhorrorshow
    Registered Users Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Great effort from Connacht to go through 20+ phases and win a penalty on halfway. Concede a penalty for a technical infringement from the resulting lineout, game over.


  • #2696
    realhorrorshow
    Registered Users Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Garfin wrote: »
    He is a quality player saw him last year in UL U18s Interpros and he was the standout player.

    Connacht dealt with him very well for the most part, stopped him on the gainline and/or forced a knock on a few times. He was still clearly the most powerful forward on the pitch though and demonstrated that on numerous occasions.


  • #2697
    ClanofLams
    Registered Users Posts: 4,233 ✭✭✭ClanofLams


    Garfin wrote: »
    Delighted with that news Shane is a special player, this game was always going to be a big ask especially after the contrasting fortunes at the weekend. Hopefully they will be able to sustain their competitiveness in the second half.

    Excellent all around athlete it seems. Man of the match in the All Ireland minor hurling final last year at full back. Diarmuid Kilcommins was very good too. Hopefully hurling’s loss is Connachts gain.


  • #2698
    realhorrorshow
    Registered Users Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    ClanofLams wrote: »
    Excellent all around athlete it seems. Man of the match in the All Ireland minor hurling final last year at full back. Diarmuid Kilcommins was very good too. Hopefully hurling’s loss is Connachts gain.

    Has he committed to rugby? He's definitely a top prospect.


  • #2699
    ClanofLams
    Registered Users Posts: 4,233 ✭✭✭ClanofLams


    realhorrorshow wrote: »
    Has he committed to rugby? He's definitely a top prospect.

    I don’t know for sure but I was talking to someone involved in Galway hurling who was lamenting his loss and said he hadn’t played a game of hurling since final last year so think rugby is his priority currently.


  • #2700
    Locke_Lamora
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    The Ulster v Munster game wasn't the greatest display of rugby but I thought Munster were the better team and were unlucky to lose. Both teams tried to keep the ball when playing into the wind, but Munster were much more effective at it, and were able to essentially build phases the whole way up the pitch. Tbh, I don't think anyone really stood out, but both centres threatened half breaks every so often, and the no. 8 was strong and looked dangerous when the Ulster defence weren't set and ready for him. Munster's defence wasn't great in the short periods where Ulster were able to raise the intensity.

    Ulster will be disappointed with their performance despite getting the win. Don't want to be too negative about individual performances - but from a team perspective, the line speed was slow, easy tackles were missed and Munster were never troubled at the breakdown which allowed them to walk up the pitch (I think the only turnover they won was to win the game). Suspect kicking and inexcusable knock-on's were other problem areas. On a more positive note, I thought the no. 7 and no. 2 put themselves about in attack and defence, with the hooker setting up Ulsters second try with a break from the halfway line into the 22 after a strong hand-off and an offload to the scrumhalf.

    Bad conditions, a lot of work on's for both teams.


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  • #2701
    Hands Like Flippers
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    Locke_Lamora wrote: »
    The Ulster v Munster game wasn't the greatest display of rugby but I thought Munster were the better team and were unlucky to lose. Both teams tried to keep the ball when playing into the wind, but Munster were much more effective at it, and were able to essentially build phases the whole way up the pitch. Tbh, I don't think anyone really stood out, but both centres threatened half breaks every so often, and the no. 8 was strong and looked dangerous when the Ulster defence weren't set and ready for him. Munster's defence wasn't great in the short periods where Ulster were able to raise the intensity.

    Ulster will be disappointed with their performance despite getting the win. Don't want to be too negative about individual performances - but from a team perspective, the line speed was slow, easy tackles were missed and Munster were never troubled at the breakdown which allowed them to walk up the pitch (I think the only turnover they won was to win the game). Suspect kicking and inexcusable knock-on's were other problem areas. On a more positive note, I thought the no. 7 and no. 2 put themselves about in attack and defence, with the hooker setting up Ulsters second try with a break from the halfway line into the 22 after a strong hand-off and an offload to the scrumhalf.

    Bad conditions, a lot of work on's for both teams.

    I take it this was the u19 game?


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