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Last of the V8 Interceptors.. my XB Falcon Coupe

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,480 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Holy ****ing ****, this thread!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭quietsailor


    Daved_XB wrote: »
    The shed is 14.5m wide & 10m deep... the height at the low point which is the top of the front hanger doors is 3.5m & the apex height is a little over 4.5m

    Thank you for those dimensions, I won't get that into my garden but at least I can visualise it now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭rockatansky


    Sitting here watching 'Chopper' and the scene where Chopper shoots Sammy the Turk in the car park of BoJangles Nightclub, there's 3 Falcon XB's in the car park and suddenly reminded of this thread!

    How's she coming along Dave?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Thanks for checking in.... long story short I've not really done anything in the shed for the last few months... I've just started back on the cars & you'll start to see some thread updates coming soon... but this one will be a few weeks away whilst I get some other stuff on the other cars done first...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Tommyboy40


    How have I not spotted this thread before. You have much skill and even more determination. Fantastic work and I'm eagerly awaiting updates


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    Well worth following Dave's Challenger project too so:

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057177969


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    I’ve had some more parts turn up for the XB this week… I’ve been working hard on the Dodge Challenger (look for a thread update this week) & so as that car is getting closer to going for paint the closer I am to getting back into this car full on.

    The company I’d bought all the suspension bits from have finally engineered a new single billet solid lower front control arm, this is a very nice bit of kit & as with a lot of the bits of these cars, almost too good to hide them away under the car.

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    You may remember when looking at the underside of the car, the seat support braces where all smashed in from years of poor jack placements & hitting rocks etc… one of the benefits of me being so slow & slack with this car is that more & more parts are getting made.

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    Also the same company make a new front crossmember section… I had repaired mine but I wasn’t happy with it really & this new one had a section of 7mm thick plate built into it so it will never buckle again when jacking.. so I’ll have to remove that section again.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Yay he's back!! :)

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    So Weird!!
    I was doing a spring clean unfollowing older dead threads last night and hovered over this one for a second, but then thought "..Nah, he'll be back, and I want to see it finished"
    And today... new posts!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Right, so I’ve changed my mind again… I had decided that I would focus on the Challenger only & leave the XB until such time as the Challenger had gone to paint… now I’ve flipped on that again & decided to work on both side by side again, after all a change is as a good as a rest as they say..

    First job… pull the old girl out of resting place in the corner

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    I can’t believe how well this rotisserie rolls with the car on it, it took me 2 minutes on my own to swing the car around & place it where I wanted it… genuinely took longer to sweep the floor clean before moving it back

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    The next step is very much a 2 person job & in fact could do with a 3rd.. spun the car back up at 90 deg to give me full access to the underside of the car

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    The first job I want to tackle is replacing the bottom of the front crossmember, I had repaired the original section a while back & it currently looks like this

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    The new replacement piece is way thicker & much heavier duty for jacking up off & the likes

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    First step is drilling out the spot welds & start to pry the plate away from the crossmember

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    With that off we can compare the old & new on the bench

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    Separating bits like this always leaves the metal a little bend out of shape

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    A little hammer & dolly work is needed to get everything back to through & straight

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    Then I coated it all in rust thru primer as getting in behind there in the future may be difficult

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    Took the black paint off the new piece & coated it too ready to be clamped on & welded

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    Then just tidy up the welds & apply a top coat of primer

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    The next bits I’m looking to replace are the seat support sections that are smashed up pretty badly.. from what I assume was a lot of ill planned jacking over the years & perhaps even some dukes of hazard style off roading who knows

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    The new reproduced panel is a great bit of kit, it looks great & fits up well

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    Removal is the same process as above for the other section, drill out the spot welds & then start gently prying the section away from the body

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    With that off you can see that underneath it needs to be cleaned up & prepped

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    Lets compare old & new on the bench

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    Then a quick test fit to see how much work will be needed to fit this up before I call it quits for the night

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    This side at least looks like it will be very easy to fit up… happy days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    Makes my day when I seen updates to this thread. I love seeing the old girl getting restored.

    (Apologies to followers of the thread for a non-XB Falcon update!) :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    I cleaned up the years of dirt & grime plus the original ford paint off the floor section that was under the section I just removed.

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    There was a section of floor damaged that caused a rip when I was fighting to get the part off, so I welded that tear up (you can see the blue discoloured section) but left the drilled hole as I’ll use that for one of the plug welds when I’m fitting the new section.

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    I also decided that I would not just rely on the factory method of joining the floor to the inner sill, Ford just used spot welds where the floor turns up at 90 degs & sits against the sill. To that end I’ve decided to stitch weld the join of the floor to the sill under the car.

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    I’ve also decided to stich or seam weld if you like the torque boxes to the floor

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    Hope to get out into the shed on the weekend & finish the seam/stitch welding & also weld on the seat support crossmember & then if I can phone a friend I’ll look to flip the car over 180 on the rotisserie so that I can get to the other side easier rather than working close to the shed floor to do the other side.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭rockatansky


    Appreciate the update Dave as always, she's going to be spectacular when complete!

    Just how rare are these 70s Falcons XB Coupes to get hold of? Would the Sedans be more available?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Appreciate the update Dave as always, she's going to be spectacular when complete!

    Just how rare are these 70s Falcons XB Coupes to get hold of? Would the Sedans be more available?

    The simple answer is very rare… they have exploded in price now that a lot of people are buying them as investments & as such you never see them out. Others are too afraid to get them out & finally a lot of them are now off the road being restored as finally the value of a restored car means that its economically variable to sink $50k+ into restoring one & still make a profit when you sell one.

    I was lucky & bought mine nearly 20 years for nothing, I see parts sell every day for more than I paid for my complete running car back then. It’s a shame to see the prices go the way they have as it means you only see them at shows now a lot & they are priced out of the range of a lot of folks really.

    This increase in price & the rarity of the Coupe body shape is now pushing the 4 door sedans to what I would call silly money, complete basket cases that would have been dumped in the tip 10-15 years ago are now selling as “ripe for restoration” projects for thousands of dollars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Another small update here, coated the floor section that would be covered in weld-through primer & then I pre-drilled the holes into the seat brace section that I would be welding on

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    Then fitted & clamped it up to allow me to weld it in place fully, trying not to get too much heat into the floor

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    I’ve also started beefing up the job that Ford did in the 70’s when building the car in the first place, so for example where the chassis rails only have tiny welds spaced 6-7 inches apart, so I’m stitching those factory welds together now

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Holy thread revival Batman….. ok so in a pre-COVID world I was doing a lot of travel for work & only had 1 full weekend a month really to work on cars, so you may recall that I parked this project to focus full time on the Challenger… I assume if you’re reading this thread you’re on top of things already… if not TLDR is I need the rotisserie now for the Challenger project to do the underside & I’ve decided that rather than take the XB off & put the Challenger on to then have to put the XB back on to finish the underside of it… I’m going to work on getting the underside of the XB done before pulling her off the rotisserie…

    So to that end I played my fave game of Muscle car Tetris & now the XB has the prime spot in the center of the shed to be worked on… luckily the rotisserie is really easy to move about with the car on it

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    There are a lot of little annoying areas that I just can’t get a grinding disk or even a wire wheel on a drill into… I may look at buying a small home sand blaster to allow me to get everywhere clean… we’ll see, it’s Sunday morning now so time to take a fresh large cup of tea to the shed & get cracking….. Got stuck into stitch welding the drivers side sill along it’s full length… there are a few spots where the metal needs to be asked to join flush

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    Finished that now… I’ll linish it all off nice & flat during the week

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    Sadly I’ve run out of welding gas now… & its late Sunday afternoon so I’ll have to wait till tomorrow now to go & get another bottle…

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭Slideways


    Once I get a house and a garage all I will need is some talent and the mrs permission and I shall get myself a similar project :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Slideways wrote: »
    Once I get a house and a garage all I will need is some talent and the mrs permission and I shall get myself a similar project :D

    Don't wait for talent.. I started with none & haven't really moved on from that level... just jump in feet first into a project & you'll be amazed at how fast you'll learn...

    Also it's always easier to ask forgiveness that permission I've heard it said :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Got a bit more done… there is an exhaust heat shield on the car, my car clearly only had a single muffler setup from the factory as I only have one of there… I’m going to take this off to clean under it & if I decide to put it back on then I’ll make a second mirror image one to go on the other side as I’ll obviously be having two mufflers on the back of this car

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    There are some big dents in the bottom of some of the chassis rail sections & I’d like to pull them out of I could

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    I’ve tried using my dent puller but the thickness of the rails is too much & these weld on pins just snap off, I’ll have to have another think on what to do here

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    I want to seam weld a lot of the floor sheet metal joins given how much extra BHP this car will see when back on the road

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    I’m also going to go through & patch up a lot of holes in the body of this car, there are countless that people have drilled into this car over the years for god knows what reasons… but I’ll be welding them all up

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    Also need to unstitch the drivers side seat support so that I can replace that next

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    Usual process of drilling out the spot welds & then prying the metal apart

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    I had a hard time finding a non-industrial sand blaster… if I’d wanted to spend over 7 grand I could get a big one but finding anyone who had a small DIY kinda one was hard… lots of places offered to order me one in but with delivery times of 12 weeks of more.. so I had a choice of one model so I picked that

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    Of course my current old trusty air compressor isn’t big enough to run this so I ended up having to splash out on a shiny new bigger compressor too..

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    Now I don’t want to just use the sand blaster in the shed as that will cover everything in inches of crap & will make an epic mess… so I’ve ordered a portable outdoor gazebo type thingy that I’ll set up & roll the car into so that I can contain my blasting media mess… you can sieve it & reuse it up to 7 or 8 times I’m told


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Got the old seat support brace full off..

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    Then cleaned 45 years of crud & crap out from under it, I do wonder if I should seam weld these new sections on to keep crap from getting under them again…. But then that’s probably over kill, I’ll just make sure it’s well primed I guess

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    Test fitting the new section… these are such high quality & fit so well, I wish everyone made patch panels this good

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    Spent a bit of time just walking around the car trying to gauge just how much body work is still to be done… a lot seems to be the answer, the area where the inner boot floor joins the bottom of the rear Qtr panels are only tacked in place really & they need to be fully welded up

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    Also where the inner wheel tub joins the boot floor is a section where 3 layers of metal meet & they need to be straightened & then seam welded

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    Both rear corner sections where the Qtrs meet the rear beaver panel need to be fully welded up too… unlike the job on the challenger I think that there is actually less reshaping work to be done here

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    I thought I had finished the install of the panel that sits under the rear window between the window & the boot but seems I don’t finished the drivers side it seems, so passenger side still to go

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    Also where the green rear speaker panel (which is sourced from a sedan here) isn’t fully welded in yet

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    You can see here the holes to the right of the speaker cutouts, these are were the seat belts mounted in a sedan so they are not needed for me in the Coupe at all so these will be welded up

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    The Coupe seatbelts mount to these holes on the very ends of the speaker panel as the central seat (not that you ever want to be in the middle seat in the rear) is a lap only belt in a Coupe

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    It's taking shape, serious work


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Thanks... as I have no plans to travel outside of my house for the next month or two or four... I hope to get most of this done this year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    I’m waiting for something to be delivered so that I can media blast the underside of the car, so I’ve decided to move on & focus on some other sections… so roof next, first job is to get it back to shiny bare metal

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    At some point in this cars life someone decided to fit an aerial to the centre of the roof & I’ve always hated it… so time to sort this hole

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    There is a central rib that runs along the roof, you can see it here & you can see the rust that was formed from the water leaking thru the aerial hole over time

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    I forced a washer in between the rib & the roof skin so that I’d have something to weld too to close up the hole without putting too much heat into the roof panel

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    Once that’s been linished back its like it wasn’t ever there… I do love working with metal

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    A quick wash down with prep wash & then a coat of primer & I’m done

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    Next up I’m going to work on the rear parcel shelf, this is a multi-piece panel so it will need to be welded along all the seams, first up clean it all back to bare metal

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    Then weld in slow small sections so as to not put too much heat into the panels as always

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Next up was to finish where the rear under window panel joins to the rear Qtr panel

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    Now I’ve said that the rear parcel shelf is a multi-piece panel & the rear most section actually curls up & joins the boot drip rail on the panel that runs under the rear window… ALL XA-XB-XC Coupes rust out here as the factory didn’t seal this section well & water gets in.. so I’m being uber sure that I seal the hell out of it.. now I didn’t want to weld it vertical so I decided to roll the car over to a more horizontal position.. I’ve never done this on my own & will probably never try again… I came very close to being found smushed into the roof of the shed willie coyote style as the kinetic rotational energy was a little greater than I’d expected as the car is unbalanced as it has a door & front guard on the passenger side only… this was as close to horizontal as I could get it

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    I was then able to stand in the boot opening & start welding the panel joins up

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    Finished, just need to linish it back & paint it up now

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    I then asked Mr’s XB out to assist so that I could spin the car level without another near death experience so that I can start finishing off the where the rear Qtr’s join to the tail light panel

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    Sadly the weekend did end in a somber way.. whilst I had a dodged a wildly spinning XB on a rotisserie style incident… tragically an old friend & trusted car restoration partner passed on Sunday evening… I did my best to get the smoke back into his motors but sadly I failed & as such my grinder passed into that great workshop in the sky….. fare thee well to Valhalla old friend….

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭Krombopulos Michael


    Great update as always..but do be careful rotating the cars. We all want to see Daved_XB and his cars (and Mrs XB) last many many more decades to come.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭quietsailor


    I can't find the photo (which I downloaded to remember this idea!!) but I saw a rotisserie pic somewhere on the internet and it had a manual winch built into the rotisserie rotation system so that the car can't rotate out of control. The worm drive on the winch preventing it going out of control - an better idea would be to get a combination worm drive gearbox & motor and mount that to the rotation device. Then it's literally the flick of a switch.

    One rotisserie I plan on copying was from a thread on the American Garage Journal site; Rotisserie fabrication by MP&C. DaveXB - he is a master car painter and restorer, I'm probably (definitely!) sending you down a rabbit hole of wasted evenings on the internet here but he writes very detailed informative posts on car repairs and car painting and is always willing to answer questions put to him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    I got a new little tool for the shed that I’m very happy with, a lot of the welding I do is in areas of the car that have shadows & I struggle to get a torch setup so that it shines light onto the work area but isn’t in my way… so I present to you the MIG Light

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    It’s really helpful for lighting up the work area just before I strike the arc.. it just clips onto the head of the MIG torch

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    I spent a bit of time moving the XB around on the rotisserie to adjust the height of the centre of gravity & I now have it set so that I can pretty much turn the car on my own by hand & if I pus it to say 45deg it will just sit there & not want to death roll like a croc… if you look closely at old pics above vers new pics below you’ll see how the height adjusters are all in different spots now… so happy days there

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    Next up I wanted to work on the bootlid, so I need to strip off all the paint & the light surface rust but also repair the small rust hole & the drilled hole, a long ago removed badge I assume

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    Went with paint stripper to remove the paint as I had some left over that almost gone off… it took a few passes as the potency is clearly gone from the chemical

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    Very happy with how it looks under the paint, came up nicely

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    Welded up the hole & repaired the rust in the other corner

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Cleaned the panel & primed…

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    Please excuse the piss poor lighting in a lot of these pics now as it was late on the weekend & we where having thunderstorms so the shed doors where shut…. Linished back the whole rear panel

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    Again some old badge mounting holes needed to be filled in

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    They will be hidden behind the honeycomb trim piece anyway but still no reason to have holes there anymore

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    I’ve gotten most of the rear end of the car including the boot channels & the rear window channels & frames all sorted now & ready for panel prep & some primer

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    I ran out of the normal grey primer I’d been using & we’re in full lockdown for a few weeks yet here in Melbourne so I ended up getting some ordered online & I now choice on the colour… so now I’m annoyed that it’s such a radical change of primer colour… but we all must make sacrifices during these covid times I guess…

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    I got the rear parcel shelf sections all welded together now & there is a lot of strength in this panel now… I’ll linish it all back & primer it this weekend

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    The doors will need a bit of work too… this is the bottom edge of the passenger side door & it’s well buggered

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    The same spot on the drivers side has a tiny bit of rust that hasn’t fully broken thru yet so won’t need as a big a repair… the other spots on both doors are at the tops where the felt strip would be that stops the glass from getting scratched, I guess the felt has done a great job of holding the moisture next to the door for all these years

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    I did wonder for a second to myself, feck he can't be going to paint now, he's mad! You're a pro at the spot weld and polish repair, well done..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    I did wonder for a second to myself, feck he can't be going to paint now, he's mad! You're a pro at the spot weld and polish repair, well done..

    Thanks.... but given the amount of practice I've had I guess there would be no excuse if I wasn't by now.. hahaha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    I grabbed the “spare” boot lid that I have in the shed, that I’d kinda forgotten about & decided to clean it back to bare metal too & then compare the two I have to see which one goes on the car & which one get stored away as a spare

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    The weather is getting better here now as we start our slow climb out of winter & it’s daylight till just on 6pm now.. so where possible I’m move parts to be sanded outside the shed to minimize the mess made inside the shed

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    The boot lid is totally rust free on the surface

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    But it looks like a golf ball… I have no idea what’s happened to it but its rippled to hell

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    I started heat shrinking it by using the stud welder to put heat into the panel & then water to rapidly cool & pull the metal

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    It’s working but it’s going to be a slow process for sure… also there is some rust in the frame on the underside that needs repairing

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Also the holes don’t line up with my original boot for the rear wing, my rear wing is a factory correct aluminum wing, so I assume these holes where for an aftermarket wing… plus they are really far up the boot lid, twice as far back as my original one so these holes need to be welded up & new one drilled

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    I’ve decided that this boot lid needs a few days work to get it even close & that will just be a distraction from the actual project… so I’ll clean, prep & prime it now & then store it back at the back of the shed until I have “free” time & then I’ll fix it up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    First time the old girl has seen sunlight in a while

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    When my panel beater mate had been helping me he had finished off the driver’s side rear Qtr & had started to lay some filler onto it to be sanded back smooth…

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    I decided that I wasn’t happy not seeing the actual bare metal under there myself so it’s all coming off

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    I’m really glad that I did this as there are some pin holes where the parch repair panels where welded in that where just covered over so I’ll need to sort them, also there are some dents that where filled with 3-4mm of filler & that’s just not good enough so I’ll be using the puller & the hammer & dolly & getting them to at least my halfarsed level before I prep & prime the panel

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    Once I’ve that sorted them I’ll move onto the end sections & getting them right… can’t test fit the bumper till she’s off the rotisserie but I can patch up all the speed holes

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    I prepped & primed the spare bootlid & that’s put away in a corner & I’ll to it when the actual car body & panel stuff is done.

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    I want to finish off the rear end corners where the Qtr’s meet the beaver & taillight panels

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    I figured it made sense to test fit the lower rear valance panel, this is a NOS part so if this fits then I have the shape of the rear Qtrs correct…. Well correct by 1975 Ford factory standards

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    You can see the whole thing is about 4-5mm off, it’s too far to the drivers side

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    Looks like the two central tabs it bolts too are off & both need to be moved 4-5mm to the left, if I clamp the panel on instead of bolting it the edges line up nicely

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    I cleaned up the area so that I could finish seam welding the whole lot, the top of the filler panel needed to be pulled in & welded from inside the boot

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    Used the dent puller to remove the dents (clue was in the name there I guess) from the Qtr that had been bogged

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    Took a bit of work to line up where the bottom edge of the Qtr meets the bottom edge of the inner boot panel, but got it sorted & welded up

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    Cleaned prepped & primed… she’s looking good

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Next up I wanted to finish off the structural welding needed on the floor…. I know it may seem that there is no plan here or no sense of purpose & you’d be right… I’m just doing a job, getting a fresh cup of tea or beer depending on the time & then walking around & looking for the next park that screams just ****ing do me the loudest to me… it’s actually working better for me than my old method of thinking & planning on it days before was… anyway back to the rusty ****box

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    This seat brace repair section isn’t lining up nice to the contour of the floor, on the leading edge its tight but the back edge is way off… so I’ll have to adjust the edge of brace

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    As I was just getting ready to do this, I noticed that the passenger side sill panel isn’t seam welded along the lower edge

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    I didn’t want to weld the seat brace to the floor without having the sill fully welded & tight so that nothing can move from the heat of welding in the brace to the floor…. Out came the clamps

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Took my time to slowly move along with the clamps putting a tack weld every inch of so

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    Then again moving about from section to sections slowly seam welded the whole sill, being very careful to not put too much heat into any one area

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    Then I ground off the paint from the brace

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    Prepped the brace & the section of floor & coated them in weld through primer…. or ultra splatter primer as I think they should call it, I hate how badly it causes splatter but it’s a necessary evil for parts I can’t get to with paint later

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    Then spent some time forming & bending the edges of the brace so that they meet the floor nicely

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    With that done I tacked the edge to the sill first & then set about plug welding all the holes

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    With that fully welded on, I actually think that that’s the last of the structural welding to be done… not the last of the welding, still more seam welding to be done but I think that’s the last part that need to be welded on if you get my meaning.. so small win for me I guess

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    Next I think I’ll go back to the boot area & seam weld all the boot floor join & in & around the wheel tubs etc

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭biketard


    I really appreciate how you're documenting this in so much detail, Daved_XB.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    biketard wrote: »
    I really appreciate how you're documenting this in so much detail, Daved_XB.

    Thanks..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    There are a few big holes still to be filled in, well I say big… you can’t get a badger thru them but in car panel terms they are big, so 7mm across or so in most cases. These holes are in such awkward spots that there is no way I can get in behind them to place in a patch, I’m going to try & bridge weld across most of them but the old metal is very thin & it’s not the easiest to work with.. any I can’t fill this way I will have to look at putting a patch on the outside I guess.. The good thing is that the holes are really in spots you’ll probably never see once the car is finished & on it’s wheels

    My mate who is/was a panel beater his whole life is responsible for these joins & I really wish that back when these bits where being done that I was more hands on with these sections, not saying I could have done any better but I’d be much happier if I was redoing my own crappy work now that someone else’s

    This is tight inside corner of the rear most join of the inner wheel tub to the lowest section of the rear Qtr panel

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    These are the rear most corners where the boot floor & the rear Qtrs meet

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    This is where the Qtr panel & the rear light panel meet.. the bumper will sit up in here & hide this I guess, but still needs fixing first

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    Started by seam welding up this whole section

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    The big hole is now bridge welded… I need to grind it back & clean it up obviously & there will be a lot of time to be spent shaping this section yet to get it right

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    Welded up the join for the Qtr & the boot floor too

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Getting the above spot on will probably take a whole weekend on their own, so I decided to tackle something bigger that I knew I could knock off in a single day this Sunday… I decided to do the inner boot floor area… so where the floor meets the two inner wheel tubs I want to fully weld

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    This will get a full line of seam sealer applied later obviously but I wanted it all welded solid under that sealer, this a big enough gap to bridge so I needed to be careful not to put too much heat into the floor & warp it or worse blow holes in the original metal of the wheel tubs

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    Also needed to weld up the join where the vertical & horizontal boot floor sections overlap, the passenger side was easy as the two panels overlapped tightly

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    The drivers side not so much, the two panels needed to be screwed together to pull them in tight as I don’t own the correct long arm shaped visegrips needed to clamp them together (note to self, you don’t own all the southern hemispheres allocation of clamps yet)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Next up these crash structure brackets that tie the chassis rails, boot floor & rear tail panel together

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    The last section to be done is where the boot floor wraps around the diff hump

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    Right… well that’s the inside of the boot finished then

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    It’s all be linished back & cleaned & now primed

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Before the coat of primer I decided to test fit the long rang 160ltr fuel tank to be sure that that fits, didn’t want to find out later that it wouldn’t fit the hole

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    Turns out it fits like a glove & looks pretty good too I think

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    Not sure what section I’ll tackle next… given I have no real plan it could be anything, but I think I’ll work on the inner floor of the car next…


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