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  • #52
    tommyIV
    Registered Users Posts: 20 ✭tommyIV


    I live in Bangkok. Yes there is a bit of hysteria and you will see a lot of people wearing masks, but I’m not bothered by it. 19 cases here I believe, 18 of those are Chinese tourists. Just avoid large crowds and bring hand sanitizer!

    The government is facing heavy criticism - they have not restricted flights from China or tried to prevent people who have been to Wuhan coming. They also haven’t canceled any large events like other countries.

    If I were you, my main concern would be the pollution. Are you aware of this? Air quality here today deemed very unsafe.


  • #53
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Worst case scenario, ask for a flammenwerfer


  • #54
    Lex Luthor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    More people die from coconuts falling out of trees


  • #55
    JohnCleary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,209 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    tommyIV wrote: »
    I live in Bangkok. Yes there is a bit of hysteria and you will see a lot of people wearing masks, but I’m not bothered by it. 19 cases here I believe, 18 of those are Chinese tourists. Just avoid large crowds and bring hand sanitizer!

    The government is facing heavy criticism - they have not restricted flights from China or tried to prevent people who have been to Wuhan coming. They also haven’t canceled any large events like other countries.

    If I were you, my main concern would be the pollution. Are you aware of this? Air quality here today deemed very unsafe.

    Got my first sore throat in over 2 years after spending 4 nights in Bangkok a few weeks back. Never had that issue in BKK before and can only put it down to the sh1te air quality.


  • #56
    munchkin_utd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    not sure what the issue is, except you seem to be lacking in knowledge of your geography and the case in question.

    The only cases so far in Germany are to the south of Munich, and even then limited to employees of a certain auto parts company where someone came back from china with the disease, and all are in hospital quarantine plus anyone they were in contact with is staying out of circulation .
    The trade fair is in Frankfurt a good 4 hour drive away.

    How you can somehow catch a virus from people who are 100s of km away and in quarantine.

    Theres 1.5 million living in Munich, maybe 5million in the greater Munich area, who are getting on with life just fine and you will be perfectly fine visiting Frankfurt which is nowhere near Munich.


  • #57
    Minime2.5
    Registered Users Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭Minime2.5


    JohnCleary wrote: »
    Got my first sore throat in over 2 years after spending 4 nights in Bangkok a few weeks back. Never had that issue in BKK before and can only put it down to the sh1te air quality.

    Or whatever you been putting in your mouth :pac:


  • #58
    sabat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    JohnCleary wrote: »
    Got my first sore throat in over 2 years after spending 4 nights in Bangkok a few weeks back. Never had that issue in BKK before and can only put it down to the sh1te air quality.

    Were you drinking at the street bars? I always hacked up some nasty looking stuff after spending an evening at the side of the busier roads. I see the baht has dropped to a 6 month low since this thread started, obviously caused by the outbreak:
    https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=EUR&to=THB&view=1Y

    Tourist numbers were already significantly down even before this event-it might be the catalyst to finally kick off the correction of private debt levels which will hit those at the lower levels of society the hardest. The questions are how much of the foreign currency reserves the elite will burn through to protect the baht and by extension their wealth in global terms, and whether the new king has the clout to hold it all together if things start spiraling out of control.


  • #59
    JohnCleary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,209 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    sabat wrote: »
    Were you drinking at the street bars? I always hacked up some nasty looking stuff after spending an evening at the side of the busier roads. I see the baht has dropped to a 6 month low since this thread started, obviously caused by the outbreak:
    https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=EUR&to=THB&view=1Y

    Tourist numbers were already significantly down even before this event-it might be the catalyst to finally kick off the correction of private debt levels which will hit those at the lower levels of society the hardest. The questions are how much of the foreign currency reserves the elite will burn through to protect the baht and by extension their wealth in global terms, and whether the new king has the clout to hold it all together if things start spiraling out of control.

    Nope. Actually drank very little in BKK this time (unusual for me). We were on Soi Rambuttri most of the time, so not much traffic. That said, we were close to lots of traffic. We were also outdoors most of the days.... could have been down to traffic pollution, who knows. Could have just been run down, too.

    Re. Tourism numbers - It was the quietest 'peak' season (Christmas / New Years) we'd seen in Thailand since first visiting in 2010.

    Something needs to happen re. THB value.... it's just becoming too expensive.


  • #60
    ShauntaMetzel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 238 ✭✭ShauntaMetzel


    I don't think you need to put off your trip. Hopefully, before summer, medicine experts would able to make a vaccine. Pray for the best.


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  • #61
    kerry4sam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,127 ✭✭✭✭kerry4sam


    Mod-note:

    Thread(s) merged and stickied by me. Please read our Travel forum Charter before posting and Please do Not hesitate in using the 'Report Post' option if necessary.

    ANother thread is open right here

    <-- Should further reading be required.

    Thanks,
    kerry4sam


  • #62
    SwordofLight
    Registered Users Posts: 343 ✭✭SwordofLight


    Had a flight booked to Hungary tomorrow, looking at cancelling. Just too big a risk if coronavirus is knocking about. We don't know what the virus actually does to people yet. It could be symptomless and cause issues like fertility problems etc I don't think it's just a harmless flu for youunger people... What would you do?


  • #63
    saabsaab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    SwordofLight wrote: »
    Had a flight booked to Hungary tomorrow, looking at cancelling. Just too big a risk if coronavirus is knocking about. We don't know what the virus actually does to people yet. It could be symptomless and cause issues like fertility problems etc I don't think it's just a harmless flu for youunger people... What would you do?


    Can you cancel and get a refund, I would.


  • #64
    SwordofLight
    Registered Users Posts: 343 ✭✭SwordofLight


    If the virus becomes a pandemic, and new research emerging from Thailand is to be believed - that anyone who contracts it, although recovering from the flu-like symptoms, may be rendered infertile - then it could potentially cause the extinction of human kind


  • #65
    killbillvol2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭killbillvol2


    SwordofLight wrote: »
    If the virus becomes a pandemic, and new research emerging from Thailand is to be believed - that anyone who contracts it, although recovering from the flu-like symptoms, may be rendered infertile - then it could potentially cause the extinction of human kind

    Words fail me.

    So the Thai authorities are testing patients' fertility after they recover from the flu?

    And this ludicrous story would suggest to you that you shouldn't travel to Hungary?


  • #66
    SwordofLight
    Registered Users Posts: 343 ✭✭SwordofLight


    How is it ludicrous? Infertility is one of the most commonly studied side-effects...

    and it's not the flu they are studying, it's corona-virus.

    here is an article.

    https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-news-latest-research-published-by-chinese-scientists-say-coronavirus-will-render-most-male-patients-infertile


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  • #67
    killbillvol2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭killbillvol2


    SwordofLight wrote: »
    How is it ludicrous? Infertility is one of the most commonly studied side-effects...

    and it's not the flu they are studying, it's corona-virus.

    here is an article.

    https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-news-latest-research-published-by-chinese-scientists-say-coronavirus-will-render-most-male-patients-infertile

    Which says that there's no corroboration for the research.


  • #68
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    SwordofLight wrote: »
    If the virus becomes a pandemic, and new research emerging from Thailand is to be believed - that anyone who contracts it, although recovering from the flu-like symptoms, may be rendered infertile - then it could potentially cause the extinction of human kind

    It'd probably be the saviour of man kind seeing as the world is way over populated. Nowhere near 100% of the world will get it anyway, even in the very worst case scenario


  • #69
    SwordofLight
    Registered Users Posts: 343 ✭✭SwordofLight


    I think seeing as this has only come about over the past few weeks it's a serious achievement to have it in a journal period. It will take time to be potentially endorsed by other studies which, thanks to this finding, may take more time to specifically research.

    I think it's dangerous to imply that a fresh piece of research is ludicrous just because it has not had time to be robustly peer-reviewed killbill.


  • #70
    killbillvol2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭killbillvol2


    SwordofLight wrote: »
    I think seeing as this has only come about over the past few weeks it's a serious achievement to have it in a journal period. It will take time to be potentially endorsed by other studies which, thanks to this finding, may take more time to specifically research.

    I think it's dangerous to imply that a fresh piece of research is ludicrous just because it has not had time to be robustly peer-reviewed killbill.

    Can you quote a reputable source for the story?

    Which still doesn't explain what it has to do with travelling to Hungary?


  • #71
    SwordofLight
    Registered Users Posts: 343 ✭✭SwordofLight


    killbillvol2 wrote: »
    Can you quote a reputable source for the story?

    Which still doesn't explain what it has to do with travelling to Hungary?

    Erm there's a link in my post with reference to the journal where the work can be found? Why don't you look that up?

    Well, pretty obvious i would think, in that i want to minimise the chances of catching a virus that has massive human to human infectious ratios. At this stage they cannot detect it accurately which means the numbers of people infected are massively underestimated... for that you should check out the Guardian's most recent article which was posted a few hours ago. Boil the kettle.


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  • #72
    Fiona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Fiona


    Hi all

    Have Rome booked for 3 nights at the end of March. I have travel insurance.

    If the airlines cancel flights would we be refunded the cost of our holiday?

    Is anybody rethinking their future travel plans as a result of this, or are you just going to invest in some good quality masks, gloves, anti bac and go on your merry way?


  • #73
    Ponster
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    I remember that when SARS was in the news many flights were cancelled and covered by insurance but of course it may depend on your specific policy.

    I wouldn't bother with the gloves/masks. Unless you're buying a specialised one (N95 respirator) then it won't protect you very much. Washing your hands, not touching your face and using anti-bac is still the best prevention.


  • #74
    Fiona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Fiona


    I have read over the document but you know yourself the game of insurance is to not pay out if they can get away with it.

    I don't mind investing in the proper masks the last thing I want to do it put myself at risk and others.

    The holiday was cheap enough €522 and we have two tours booked €200 so thankfully if we cancel it won't be the end of the world.

    Just hard to know what to do!

    (I have cruise booked for August that am I more worried about!)


  • #75
    Curb Your Enthusiasm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭Curb Your Enthusiasm


    We have travel in Italy booked for a month, June and July. Should we be concerned? Or is it far enough away yet that it may be OK?


  • #76
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Flying into Malpensa in a couple of weeks, no plans at all to change that. Unless there's travel advice from the DFA not to travel, or the Italian government decides to restrict flights in and out of the country.

    Will bring some anti-bac wipes and handwash for the flight... Anyone who coughs or sneezes beside me, I will ask to be seated elsewhere! :D


  • #77
    Fiona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Fiona


    Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: »
    We have travel in Italy booked for a month, June and July. Should we be concerned? Or is it far enough away yet that it may be OK?

    I would like to think by that time there will be some form of slow down / vaccine etc


  • #78
    mct1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭mct1


    World Health Organisation has just said a vaccine is at least 18 months away.


  • #79
    Fiona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Fiona


    mct1 wrote: »
    World Health Organisation has just said a vaccine is at least 18 months away.

    Ah well then that's that!


  • #80
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Northern Italy seems to be going into a lock down, trains from Italy to Austria are halted and multiple public and sporting events cancelled.
    Airports still open, no news on any additional screening.

    I'm heading to North Italy soon so will keep watch on the websites:

    https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.salute.gov.it%2Fnuovocoronavirus


  • #81
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    Was planning to go away at easter with the girlfriend, we're both mid 20s. Looking at various places in Europe including italy. Yesterday's news about the outbreak in Northern Italy is quite concerning.. stalling our bookings now.

    The chinese government obviously have played this virus down all along. It's now killed 3 europeans inside 48 hours after contracting.

    If china could have forgot about their wallet for once and shut down the whole country for 2-3 weeks after first outbreak - no flights, no trains, no boats, it would have been contained. Now how do we know it isn't it several countries in the world?

    I don't condone Ryanair CEO's comments over the weekend about selective screening - but let's be honest. Shouldn't airports take extra precautions on people of Asian descent passing through right now?


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  • #82
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    CBear1993 wrote: »
    Was planning to go away at easter with the girlfriend, we're both mid 20s. Looking at various places in Europe including italy. Yesterday's news about the outbreak in Northern Italy is quite concerning.. stalling our bookings now.

    Update on Italy, it's only some places in the North:
    The Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) on its website has advised Irish citizens to “not travel to affected areas” in Italy due to a recent increase in coronavirus cases.

    The department has not provided a definitive list of the areas affected by Covid-19, saying to consult transport and accommodation providers, the regional government website of the region in question.


  • #83
    Tabnabs
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    mct1 wrote: »
    World Health Organisation has just said a vaccine is at least 18 months away.

    Have heard the same a few weeks ago on BBC Radio interview from a scientist in a laboratory in the UK that has a vaccine developed. There is no quick solution to this.


  • #84
    Fiona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Fiona


    http://jrnl.ie/5019390f

    Looking like I wont be getting to this match either!!
    I hope there will be refunds.


  • #85
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,576 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    Fiona wrote: »
    Ah well then that's that!

    The summer temperatures SHOULD slow this down a fair bit

    and then it'll start again in the winter.


  • #86
    SusanC10
    Registered Users Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    So, the DFA are advising against all travel to the affected areas in Italy. Does this mean the areas on lockdown or all of the Region eg all of Lombardy and Veneto etc ??

    My friend and her family are planning to fly to Venice for Easter. Staying on coast near Venice. (Just talking to her on the phone this am)
    We ourselves are planning to fly to Verona in June (obviously wait and see for ourselves).

    But, just in general, will Travel Insurance cover this ? As there is a Travel Advisory and providing still in force for relevant dates. Everything booked in 2019.


  • #87
    Springfields
    Registered Users Posts: 258 ✭✭Springfields


    SusanC10 wrote: »
    So, the DFA are advising against all travel to the affected areas in Italy. Does this mean the areas on lockdown or all of the Region eg all of Lombardy and Veneto etc ??

    My friend and her family are planning to fly to Venice for Easter. Staying on coast near Venice. (Just talking to her on the phone this am)
    We ourselves are planning to fly to Verona in June (obviously wait and see for ourselves).

    But, just in general, will Travel Insurance cover this ? As there is a Travel Advisory and providing still in force for relevant dates. Everything booked in 2019.

    We are planning family trip to Spain in June. Concerned now with situation in Italy. Contacted travel agency who said they will follow official guidelines and they will be in touch should a travel ban come into effect..also checked our insurance and you're not covered in case of an epidemic or pandemic! So unsure what to do now. Balance of holiday not due till mid march so hoping we will have some clarification by then ....


  • #88
    pinkypinky
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,672 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Similar issue.

    I spoke to VHI Multitrip.
    The only country they're currently covering claims for is China but the query for Italy is with the underwriters.
    I was told that the DFA website has to update to the same wording as China's:

    We advise you to Avoid Non Essential Travel to China.

    So currently they wouldn't entertain a claim based on the coronavirus in Italy.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • #89
    SusanC10
    Registered Users Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    pinkypinky wrote: »
    Similar issue.

    I spoke to VHI Multitrip.
    The only country they're currently covering claims for is China but the query for Italy is with the underwriters.
    I was told that the DFA website has to update to the same wording as China's:

    We advise you to Avoid Non Essential Travel to China.

    So currently they wouldn't entertain a claim based on the coronavirus in Italy.

    Thanks for that.
    Tried calling VHI there now but they have a call-back in place so I will get a call back in the next 48 hours.


  • #90
    ifElseThen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 348 ✭✭ifElseThen


    WHO saying it has peaked and plateaued already in China.
    https://www.pscp.tv/w/1YpJkQPBjLBKj

    We (2 adults + 5 kids) are off to Bella Italia in April so hoping it has tapered off by then.


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  • #91
    SusanC10
    Registered Users Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    http://www.rte.ie/news/world/2020/0224/1117217-world-coronavirus/


  • #92
    charlietheminxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭charlietheminxx


    I’m supposed to be going to Tenerife this week, but with the sandstorms and now a confirmed case of coronavirus, I’m having a little wobble about going. Am I mad?


  • #93
    Curb Your Enthusiasm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭Curb Your Enthusiasm


    charlietheminxx wrote: »
    I’m supposed to be going to Tenerife this week, but with the sandstorms and now a confirmed case of coronavirus, I’m having a little wobble about going. Am I mad?

    I'd still go unless the flight was cancelled IMO.


  • #94
    Heat_Wave
    Registered Users Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Heat_Wave


    I am due to fly to Milan in three weeks.

    Bought flights with Aer Lingus and Ryanair.

    What are my options here? Can I get a refund?

    I don’t even know if flights are currently flying in/out of Milan...


  • #95
    killbillvol2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭killbillvol2


    Heat_Wave wrote: »
    I am due to fly to Milan in three weeks.

    Bought flights with Aer Lingus and Ryanair.

    What are my options here? Can I get a refund?

    I don’t even know if flights are currently flying in/out of Milan...

    You'll get a refund if the flights are cancelled. Your travel insurance will probably cover you if the DFA advises against all non essential travel to the area.

    Flights are operating pretty much normally in and out of Milan.


  • #96
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: »
    I'd still go unless the flight was cancelled IMO.

    I agree, I've my flight booked to Malpensa in a couple of weeks.


    Latest advice from the UK for those going to Italy:
    There is an ongoing outbreak of coronavirus in China and elsewhere, including Italy. The government of Italy has introduced extraordinary measures that allow regions to implement civil protection measures in response to Coronavirus. This includes the isolation of 10 small towns in Lombardy and one in Veneto. The regions of Lombardy, Veneto, Friuli Venezia Giulia, Piemonte and Emilia Romagna have implemented measures including the suspension of public or private events, the suspension of schools and higher education and the suspension on the opening of museums and cultural institutions for seven days. If you are already in the regions affected you should follow the instructions of local authorities.


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  • #97
    charlietheminxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭charlietheminxx


    I'm just worried because of the way the hotel guests have been locked down in Costa Adeje. We are only going for a long weekend and I will be caring for a vulnerable person when I get back. My main fear is that we get quarantined and are unable to come home.


  • #98
    Fiona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Fiona


    charlietheminxx wrote: »
    I'm just worried because of the way the hotel guests have been locked down in Costa Adeje. We are only going for a long weekend and I will be caring for a vulnerable person when I get back. My main fear is that we get quarantined and are unable to come home.

    That's the thing if you went to say Rome, and a case was confirmed while you are there, you will be on lock down.

    Will your job give you 14 days extra leave, will your airline get you home for free?

    It's very risky to get stuck in a country for that length of time, this is not a missed flight for 24/48 hours.


  • #99
    McGrath5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,395 ✭✭✭McGrath5


    I'm heading to Tenerife on March 7th, fingers crossed we can still go but I will be keeping a close eye on it.


  • #100
    charlietheminxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭charlietheminxx


    Fiona wrote: »
    That's the thing if you went to say Rome, and a case was confirmed while you are there, you will be on lock down.

    Will your job give you 14 days extra leave, will your airline get you home for free?

    It's very risky to get stuck in a country for that length of time, this is not a missed flight for 24/48 hours.

    This is kind of what I'm worried about... I'm just not sure what to do.


  • #101
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    charlietheminxx wrote: »
    I'm just worried because of the way the hotel guests have been locked down in Costa Adeje. We are only going for a long weekend and I will be caring for a vulnerable person when I get back. My main fear is that we get quarantined and are unable to come home.

    I'd go by what's on here: https://www.dfa.ie/travel/travel-advice/a-z-list-of-countries/spain/

    If it's only a long weekend and you absolutely have to be back home on time, then perhaps try cancel your accommodation, or if you've booked through a Travel agent then phone them and ask for a refund of some level.

    it's really a judgement call by you...


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