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Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

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    #5972
    Gravelly
    Registered Users Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    If it's not bad enough that the council are bribing the travellers in Tipperary to move into their luxury new free houses, the same travellers are currently involved in a court case to try to claim the land they were squatting on.

    How they must be laughing at us idiot taxpayers.


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    #5973
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Ah FFS

    They will prob win that case too


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    #5974
    [Deleted User]
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    freshpopcorn wrote: »
    Sometimes you've got to love The Sun.

    Homeless Margaret Cash’s late mum Sadie left her ‘€100k’ in will – but she has to wait seven more years to collect it

    https://www.thesun.ie/news/3719782/homeless-margaret-cash-mum-left-her-100k-will/

    I know it’s The Sun an all but if we take this paragraph to be true
    My trustees in their discretion think fit without obligation to make payments to or for the benefit of my daughter and when she has attained the age of 35 years to pay the capital and accrued income to her for her own use and benefit.”

    Does that mean the the trustees could have helped her out last year when she said she had nowhere to go so stayed in Tallaght Garda Stn?


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    #5975
    Gravelly
    Registered Users Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Does that mean the the trustees could have helped her out last year when she said she had nowhere to go so stayed in Tallaght Garda Stn?

    Or does it mean she has been getting money from them all along (on top of her generous taxpayer-funded salary)?


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    #5976
    Effects
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    Gravelly wrote: »
    The same travellers are currently involved in a court case to try to claim the land they were squatting on.

    Have you a link where I can read up on it more?


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    #5977
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Grab All Association wrote: »
    Rumours going around town and normally I don’t take notice to gossip like this but other families closely related to them are claiming this. that those houses in Thurles. they’ve reached an agreement €15k “disturbance money” to be provided to the travellers in Cabragh Bridge and 0.5 acres. No stables though. Former/resigned SF councillor David Doran is calling for the council to make the discussions public. He’s probably gagged by the Council no doubt


    Wonder how much property taxes that was paid to the council by families in the area will be given to these travellers as disturbance money? Wonder if these families are happy where their property tax money is going.

    I can tell you one thing though; if local councils are providing disturbance money in these situations, then there is a substantial amount of people around the country who should be getting it due to the "disturbance" inflicted on them by travellers.


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    #5978
    jay0109
    Registered Users Posts: 2,669 ✭✭✭jay0109


    How does an elderly Traveller woman have 130k odd to leave in her will!


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    #5979
    Effects
    Registered Users Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭Effects


    Gravelly wrote: »
    Or does it mean she has been getting money from them all along (on top of her generous taxpayer-funded salary)?

    It's makes sense when she's shopping for expensive couches and Vapormax Nikes.


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    #5980
    xi5yvm0owc1s2b
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭xi5yvm0owc1s2b


    "The 28-year-old hit the headlines when she slept with her kids in a Garda station..."

    Unfortunate choice of phrase there by The Sun.


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    #5981
    Gravelly
    Registered Users Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    Effects wrote: »
    Have you a link where I can read up on it more?

    No, I heard it from someone living locally, but I believe, from memory, that one of the travellers themselves referred to it in one of the interviews they did during the whole rigmarole around Peter Casey.


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    #5982
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    jay0109 wrote: »
    How does an elderly Traveller woman have 130k odd to leave in her will!


    Don't worry. I'm sure the crack investigative team at RTE will examine it and subsequently report on its findings.


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    #5983
    Gravelly
    Registered Users Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    jay0109 wrote: »
    How does an elderly Traveller woman have 130k odd to leave in her will!

    You can bet your bottom dollar nobody in the media will ask that question.


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    #5984
    xi5yvm0owc1s2b
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭xi5yvm0owc1s2b


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Does that mean the the trustees could have helped her out last year when she said she had nowhere to go so stayed in Tallaght Garda Stn?

    I'm sure they could have -- but why would Margaret ask for money to be paid out of her inheritance? She plans to cry "homeless" so she can pressure the state to house her and her family for free. She's not going to put her hand in her own pocket if she can avoid it.


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    #5985
    Effects
    Registered Users Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭Effects


    Gravelly wrote: »
    No, I heard it from someone living locally, but I believe, from memory, that one of the travellers themselves referred to it in one of the interviews they did during the whole rigmarole around Peter Casey.

    No reporting of it online so I doubt there's any court case yet.
    I wouldn't put it past them though. Why give up that land if you didn't have to?


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    #5986
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    People should email or write to SDCC


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    #5987
    Gravelly
    Registered Users Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    Effects wrote: »
    No reporting of it online so I doubt there's any court case yet.
    I wouldn't put it past them though. Why give up that land if you didn't have to?


    The only mention I could find of it with a quick google was this:

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/horse-has-bolted-council-will-not-provide-stables-for-1-7m-traveller-homes-in-local-standoff-37398684.html
    At least 50 adults and children live in mobile homes and caravans across the road from the new housing development, and say members of their extended family have done so for decades. They have their horses living in stables and paddocks on land which is understood to be in private ownership with at least two or three different owners.

    The families say the matter is currently with their solicitor and there has been speculation in the council that the families are hoping to claim "adverse possession", or squatters' rights, of the land they are using for their horses


    Though I'm certain I remember one of the travellers themselves mentioning it at one stage.


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    #5988
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bQ-wFifmq4


    The end of this RTÉ report says the travellers wouldn’t talk on camera as it was with the courts ????


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    #5989
    Gravelly
    Registered Users Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    The latest I've heard about the €1,000,000+ traveller house in Kerry is that the traveller family now don't want to move into it and want a house in the town instead.....


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    #5990
    no.8
    Registered Users Posts: 778 ✭✭✭no.8


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote:
    The end of this RTÉ report says the travellers wouldn’t talk on camera as it was with the courts ????


    You couldn't make this up. My blood boils looking at those beautiful houses, undoubtedly A-rated but soon to be thrashed in all likelihood. How can any state hand out free multi-million euro homes with massive back gardens / mod-con's without wanting anything in return (e.g. labour/proof of work or rent etc.). This is a slap in the face of those of us who work and pay taxes for a living. The state must stand up to these entitled people


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    #5991
    ShaneC93
    Registered Users Posts: 268 ✭✭ShaneC93


    Presumably Margaret provided that €100K sum to TheSun? I don't think that was mentioned at all on Facebook.

    Just when you thought the story of Margaret Cash couldn't possibly get any stranger! Why on earth would it be restricted to age 35 though? I could understand 21 or 25 for maturity reasons - that's fairly normal in trusts but 35 makes zero sense when you consider the average traveller only lives 45-50 years. Sadie herself died around 40 I believe.


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    #5992
    no.8
    Registered Users Posts: 778 ✭✭✭no.8


    pjohnson wrote:
    Who will ye be voting for?

    Anybody who will end the pathetic tolerance of this traitorous carry on.


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    #5993
    Gravelly
    Registered Users Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    Unless the €100k refers only to the money in the trust fund, and Margaret has been left other monies that weren't in the trust fund....


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    #5994
    Squatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭Squatter


    Kivaro wrote: »
    Don't worry. I'm sure the crack investigative team at RTE will examine it and subsequently report on its findings.


    Yep, it's right up Fillip Groucher-Haze's street! Possibly assisted by Kitty Holland a fearless, hard-nosed journalista who never shirks any opportunity to delve deeply into such fascinating topics and tell us what's really going on at the coalface.


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    #5995
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Cash is king as they say......

    Shocking what is allowed go on here.

    I can't wait for the day something is actually done and a proper policy put in place.

    Our tax is not been put to the best use in my view.


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    #5996
    ShaneC93
    Registered Users Posts: 268 ✭✭ShaneC93


    So even if you're only the beneficial owner of a trust e.g. it's being controlled by someone else like in Margaret's situation, it still has to be declared annually to the Welfare office! I wonder if she has been doing that or plans to try and pocket it tax free at 35.
    (e) Pension Funds, Trust funds etc. owned by the claimant.
    1. The value of a pension fund is only assessable for means when a person has access to the pension fund. The rules of a pension scheme will determine what and when benefits are payable from the scheme.
    2. Any benefits in the form of a regular payment or a lump sum payment will be assessed as means.
    3. Regular pension payments will be treated as income for means purposes. The value of any cash otherwise available from a pension fund will be assessed on the basis of the capital valuation of that fund.
    4. A claimant should supply the last Annual Benefit Statement provided by the trustees of the pension scheme to the Department. This will state the date that the benefits of the pension can be accrued.
    5. Similar to the above, the terms of the buy-out bond will determine what and when benefits are payable to the holder of the bond. A person should provide details of the bond to the Department in order to prove that they do not have access to any benefits.
    6. Note: If the claimant only has a life interest in the capital, the capital lump sum is not assessed as property, and any periodic payments received are assessed as cash income.
    7. Doubt arises at times as to whether the claimant has ownership of the funds or just a life interest, i.e. entitlement to periodic payments only. Enquiry as to whether any amount left at date of death reverts to his/her estate, or whether full title of any balance then passes to another (e.g. the fund holder) may clarify this point.
    http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/Means-Assessment.aspx


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    #5997
    Credit Checker Moose
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Credit Checker Moose


    Do CAB take reports from members of the public or does one have to go to a cop shop first?


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    #5998
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
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    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Well I suppose Margaret "never said I was poor. I said I was homeless."

    Funny how quickly she took down her post yesterday evening

    I wonder where Sadie Cash got all this money to leave in her will ...

    From working, duh


    :D


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    #5999
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Credit Checker Moose wrote: »
    Do CAB take reports from members of the public or does one have to go to a cop shop first?


    Public . I would also email the social welfare and SDCC . i have


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    #6000
    Jerichoholic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭Jerichoholic


    They could ****ing pay the nurses instead of pandering to these these wastes of oxygen. They are just having a laugh now.


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    #6001
    Credit Checker Moose
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Credit Checker Moose


    What age is she roughly?


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