What to stock up on.. Brexit

Capt'n Midnight · 20-01-2019 8:17pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

All Coca Cola manufactured here uses British Sugar

Owned by Kraft Heinz. Kraft as in margarine, Flora and Stork are other brands of theirs.

It's no longer a premium brand , Roses this year were waxy. Even the insipid Nestle muck taste better.

Probably made in Poland from recycled axel grease or whatever is cheapest.

Capt'n Midnight · 20-01-2019 8:24pm

touts wrote: »

Anything that comes in from the continent will have an extra 10-20% on it due to increased transportation costs

Not really.

No customs checks on TIR, so minimal delays on the landbridge. Drivers with Irish passports can travel visa free. Or they could send over the trailers or unaccompanied so there's no delays at passport control.

Yes the ferry from Belgium takes 30 hours. But it's over 600Km from Dover to Holyhead and tuckers are limited in the hours they can do.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 20-01-2019 8:31pm

touts wrote: »

We're not going to starve but what we will see is some things rise in price and then gradually disappear off the shelves as sales drop and the suppliers decide it just isn't worth the hassle shipping to that island with the tiny population. Ireland isn't a large enough market to be bothered with by itself and most companies just consider it to be a part of the UK market like a small Manchester or Birmingham. That'll all change with brexit.

Anything that comes in from the continent will have an extra 10-20% on it due to increased transportation costs (time is money be it in delays at ports or longer/slower ferry trips bypassing the UK. Anything that comes from the UK will have 20-40% tariffs imposed on them. So as prices increase sales will drop. Eventually companies will just stop supplying the Irish market. We'll end up like many of those towns and cities in isolated parts of Australia, Russia, Canada etc. You won't starve but you won't go into a local supermarket and find the same selection of stuff that you would find in New York or Sydney of London. We'll get the mass consumed basics but many niche luxuries will become hard to find. Time to ween yourself off a breakfast of avacado on chia seed chibata toast drizzled with truffle oil and start getting used to porridge.

Another problem will be internet shopping. Will .co.uk websites from the likes of Amazon, Debenhams, SportsDirect etc continue to supply the Irish market? They may not and if they do we're likely to see big tariffs. So will the .de or .fr sites step up and fill the gap? Possibly but with big postal fees. Not that local book or record shops will do any better. They will also have to get their products in from the UK and will face tariffs and reluctant suppliers. My advice on that one is buy a new Kindle, tablet, phone etc. You'll be able to get ebooks etc far cheaper from servers located in Ireland than physical stuff from warehouses located in the UK.

The UK are leaving the EU, they have not declared war on the EU. I think your vision is extremely far fetched. The UK is not the only market on this planet

biko · 20-01-2019 8:31pm

A rap about breaking up and Brexit...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9_EhmfxHys

Atoms for Peace · 20-01-2019 8:35pm

sugarman wrote: »

5 pages in and not single mention of Cadbury ��

Some of Cadbury's products are produced in Ireland.

The J Stands for Jay · 20-01-2019 8:43pm

Esel wrote: »

I hate hard boarders.

You can understand why their parents would send them away.

bodhrandude · 20-01-2019 8:44pm

Giveaway wrote: »

I am looking forward to all the european sauces and foods moving , seeing an opportunity and new market. German sausage, french condiments, any Spanish food.
I will be stockpiling flour and other baking ingredients and spices. I foresee a massive shortage of batchloaf and large swatches of Tallaght facing starvation

More choice of absinthe.

:D:D

The J Stands for Jay · 20-01-2019 8:47pm

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

I’d believe that if New Zealand were a soviet type shopping existence. It isn’t. And transport isn’t as expensive to here as there, an under the tir there need not be any delays.

These U.K. firms have to supply the EU/European market if they want to survive, tariffs or not. Ireland’s part of that. We may of course change our habits.

I already buy stuff from amazon.de and amazon.es They're often cheaper than .co.uk even if they charge for delivery.

bubbles o hara · 20-01-2019 11:11pm

Shur what's the point of stocking up on anything? By the time all our relatives and friends living and working in the UK return, we'll be eating each other.

Seriously, do people really believe the Brits will starve after Brexit? :pac:

monty_python · 20-01-2019 11:12pm

****s. Because noone will give one after it

Rubberchikken · 20-01-2019 11:16pm

fgs things arent going to change - no stockpiling here. im exhausted enough forcing myself to do a normal shop.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 21-01-2019 2:45am

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

We don't grow the hard wheats here needed to produce flour so the best quality Irish flour is added to the harder wheat flour to make the flour we use.

There's also issues with phytosanitary controls as the wheat from the UK would, in general, suffer from the same diseases as here but importing European wheat could lead to the introduction of different diseases and strains of diseases which Irish crops would not have much resistance towards.

Why would the wheat get out into the wild from the bakery? It’s not planted. And surely under existing EU laws that wheat can be imported even if it isn’t.

Most of the panicky posts here are hilarious. The U.K. is going to still try trade with the EU post Brexit. If buyers in companies in Europe who make chocolate (ie Cadbury’s) have to replace some UK ingredients because of cost they’ll do that.

And tarrifs may not matter that much if, as I suspect, the pound drops significantly, so that may offset some extra taxes.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 21-01-2019 2:46am

bubbles o hara wrote: »

Shur what's the point of stocking up on anything? By the time all our relatives and friends living and working in the UK return, we'll be eating each other.

Seriously, do people really believe the Brits will starve after Brexit? :pac:

No, I think people think we are going to starve after Brexit.

Andrew00 · 21-01-2019 3:59am

Condoms for sure

Buford T. Justice XIX · 21-01-2019 10:46am

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Why would the wheat get out into the wild from the bakery? It’s not planted. And surely under existing EU laws that wheat can be imported even if it isn’t.

Most of the panicky posts here are hilarious. The U.K. is going to still try trade with the EU post Brexit. If buyers in companies in Europe who make chocolate (ie Cadbury’s) have to replace some UK ingredients because of cost they’ll do that.

And tarrifs may not matter that much if, as I suspect, the pound drops significantly, so that may offset some extra taxes.

Wheat doesn't go to the baker, flour does.

Wheat is transported to mills, to the one mill left here, and processed to produce wheat flour. The wheat that doesn't make the grade for flour is diverted to feed mills to produce animal feed. The remainder of the processed wheat, chaff and ground seed coatings, are taken to feed mills to produce animal feed.

That wheat remainders are combined with other non food grade feeds to produce different animal feeds. Some, a very small percentage, are cooked and mixed in with molasses to produce cooked feeds which pose no difficulties.

The majority isn't cooked and is just mixed and extruded to produce pelleted feeds. Those produce a large danger as the heat produced in the processing isn't high enough for long enough to kill off any pathogens present in the seed and seed coat.

Similar to the difficulties in importing pork where the processing isn't good enough to kill off diseases like Foot and Mouth from the porks original countries so the standards for importing pork and beef are extremely high. A standard to which Britain, post Brexit, seems committed to lower.

gimli2112 · 21-01-2019 10:52am

Rubberchikken wrote: »

fgs things arent going to change - no stockpiling here. im exhausted enough forcing myself to do a normal shop.

When it snowed heavy last year the place turned into 1970s Moscow overnight. Bread ran out and I queued for an hour in my local shop. I don't even have any grass to eat in my house anymore as I got rid of the real stuff.

MarkHenderson · 21-01-2019 10:52am

Hard Brexit will happen and the world will go on just like before. The same twits told us the world would end when Trump got elected.

Grayson · 21-01-2019 10:54am

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Not really.

No customs checks on TIR, so minimal delays on the landbridge. Drivers with Irish passports can travel visa free. Or they could send over the trailers or unaccompanied so there's no delays at passport control.

Yes the ferry from Belgium takes 30 hours. But it's over 600Km from Dover to Holyhead and tuckers are limited in the hours they can do.

Unless it's stuck at the end of a 10 mile tailback waiting for all the other stuff to clear customs.

There's some medication I need but besides that I won't be stocking up. The supply chains will be dodgy but we'll still have food etc. The Uk will have it far worse.

Plopsu · 21-01-2019 11:45am

Barr's icream soda. I already stockpile (because it's hard to find) but I have visions of trekking across the wilds of Armagh on a donkey to smuggle it in if we end up with a hard border.

Capt'n Midnight · 22-01-2019 2:17am

Grayson wrote: »

Unless it's stuck at the end of a 10 mile tailback waiting for all the other stuff to clear customs.

There's some medication I need but besides that I won't be stocking up. The supply chains will be dodgy but we'll still have food etc. The Uk will have it far worse.

They'll have to let them though or leave them on the ferries that are supposed to be taking the empty tucks back to France.

If they don't have bread , they can have beer instead !

Sales of British malting barley to European Union brewers and malt producers for delivery after Brexit have come to a virtual stop because of uncertainty about future trading relations.

Junkyard Tom · 22-01-2019 4:57am

Wotsits.

freshpopcorn · 22-01-2019 5:02am

This was being discussed a few weeks ago on Maura and Daithi and they said that an item and we have issues with sourcing is toilet roll because a lot of it is imported from the UK!

BeerWolf · 22-01-2019 5:23am

Bread makers trying to spin off another "shortage" like last blizzard come brexit. :rolleyes:

DS86DS · 22-01-2019 5:25am

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

"They say that every society is only three meals away from revolution. Deprive a culture of food for three meals, and you'll have an anarchy. And it's true, isn't it? You haven't eaten for a couple of days, and you've turned into a barbarian."
-Arnold J. Rimmer

The most famous example been the French Revolution.

DS86DS · 22-01-2019 5:31am

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

If only we had our own sugar industry

That would be sweet.

Lucy8080 · 22-01-2019 5:35am

Union Jacks.

When the Scots secede from the union ,they will increase in value .Antiques usually do.

rn · 22-01-2019 6:00am

Won't effect us until next Christmas, but supervalu mince pies which are the nicest of the "mass produced" mince pies are made in Scotland.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 22-01-2019 10:43am

BeerWolf wrote: »

Bread makers trying to spin off another "shortage" like last blizzard come brexit. :rolleyes:

In terms of food security, there's only 90-100 days of food available at any one time and a lot of that would include food continuously produced like milk and meat. And that's assuming food could be transported to where it's needed, similar to what would happen with a longer period of snowfall here last spring.

Food supplies aren't as secure as people would like to think. Brexit shortages would only be a minor inconvenience in comparison to some scenarios.

22-01-2019 10:59am

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

"They say that every society is only three meals away from revolution. Deprive a culture of food for three meals, and you'll have an anarchy. And it's true, isn't it? You haven't eaten for a couple of days, and you've turned into a barbarian."
-Arnold J. Rimmer

Ah, goalpost head. The J stands for Judas........quite possibly one of the greatest name reveals in fiction. The best, obviously, being "Eddie Elizabeth Hitler".

iguana · 22-01-2019 11:25am

As it happens, my parents' dog relies on a daily medication which is currently being stockpiled in the UK and as a result has been in very, very short supply in Ireland since November. They normally get a quarterly supply of it at a time but it's currently being eked out monthly if we're lucky but as little as a few days a time on occasion. We're hoping that once Brexit happens, the drug, which is manufactured in Germany, will become easier to get hold of again. But it's definitely opened my eyes to a need to try and be aware of what will and won't change come March 29th.

Brexit is due to happen right as what's known as "The Hungry Gap" begins. That's the period of April, May and early June where winter crops have been harvested and early summer crops are yet to bear yield. It's a time that we largely rely on imported fruit and vegetables. I'm working off the assumption that the loss of the landbridge across the UK will lead to delays and shortages on imported fruit and veg as we adapt to importing directly from the continent and the longer import times will effect perishable items like fruit and veg. It's not going to be a total disaster for us, like it has the potential to be in the UK but I'm stocking up on tinned (in juice) and frozen fruit and veg. Frozen fruit and vegetables can usually be refrozen if they defrost during power outages. I've also completely avoided dipping into my stash of frozen currants and berries from the garden that I normally use for winter baking.

I'm also stocking up on particular products from the UK that I like. A Twinnings fruit tea, worcestershire sauce, a couple of supplements I take that I know come through the UK, etc. I do most of my baking with oats which I think will be ok, but I'll buy an extra few bags to be on the safe side. I'm only buying non-perishable items that I know I'll definitely eat. If there are no shortages, I'll just eat my way through them over time. But I think there could be an uncertain few weeks while we adapt. If there are, I'll be glad I stocked up.

The Hill Billy · 22-01-2019 6:28pm

Why stock up when there's a career to be had in piracy? I'm going to buy a hi-speed rib, a 70mm cannon, AK47s & a load of ammo. Then hit the freighters as they near Dublin Port.

I've storage space all sorted in Smuggler's Cave just outside Loughshinny.

(I may buy a few extra boxes of OXO cubes just in case.)

Skyfloater · 22-01-2019 7:42pm

Imported Second hand cars. Aren't they supposed to be 20-30% more expensive after Brexit, will be subject to VAT I believe.

4068ac1elhodqr · 22-01-2019 8:21pm

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

They say that every society is only three meals away from revolution. Deprive a culture of food for three meals, and you'll have an anarchy. -Arnold J. Rimmer

Probably one of the best forecasts for this would be the results of a direct full impact of a X30+ solar flare with a 1750+nT CME (plasma rain) upon the Northern Hemisphere. (A bit like the Canadian event 1859).

Brexit isn't near as bad as that, as the widespread burnout of electrical transformers (no water pumps, no sewage systems, no light, no aircon, no electric, no shops, no credit cards, no atms, no GPS, no phones, little transport) carries fatality rate of up to 80% within 3mths and cost of $2tr in the US alone.

James Brown · 22-01-2019 8:30pm

Condescension. I'd say Fine Gael are bedside themselves.

oh and Jaffa Cakes.

endacl · 22-01-2019 8:32pm

mikeecho wrote: »

Is there anything that I should get pre hard exit..

Popcorn. Lots of popcorn.

Capt'n Midnight · 22-01-2019 8:33pm

rn wrote: »

Won't effect us until next Christmas, but supervalu mince pies which are the nicest of the "mass produced" mince pies are made in Scotland.

nay bother , once they have indyref2 Scotland will be back

pleas advice · 22-01-2019 9:36pm

The Hill Billy wrote: »

(I may buy a few extra boxes of OXO cubes just in case.)

Stock up, on OXO...

eggman100 · 23-01-2019 10:50pm

You don't need to stockpile anything for brexit, I would more rather stockpile things in case of breakdown of society in general, but there is no likelyhood of economic collapse or war at the moment

fly_agaric · 23-01-2019 11:10pm

MarkHenderson wrote: »

Hard Brexit will happen and the world will go on just like before. The same twits told us the world would end when Trump got elected.

Trump has been...pretty bad. He's not a dictator and can't just click his fingers, set the world on fire & ruin everything (edit: unless he goes totally nuts and pushes his "big" nuclear button) but he has taken some mind-boggling positions for a US president and done a lot of damage in 2 years. Bad as things were with Bush he never would have supported the UK in "Brexit", called out the EU as an enemy of the United States, or threatened to pull the US out of NATO!

AllForIt · 23-01-2019 11:46pm

fly_agaric wrote: »

Trump has been...pretty bad. He's not a dictator and can't just click his fingers, set the world on fire & ruin everything (edit: unless he goes totally nuts and pushes his "big" nuclear button) but he has taken some mind-boggling positions for a US president and done a lot of damage in 2 years. Bad as things were with Bush he never would have supported the UK in "Brexit", called out the EU as an enemy of the United States, or threatened to pull the US out of NATO!

He may be optically bad but he hasn't done anything really bad. Yet.

Ted Plain · 24-01-2019 12:57am

I am clearing out the attic at the moment and discovered three unopened jars of Marmite. The special edition gold ones from some years back. I'd say they're still OK. Marmite is invincible.

I also have six litres of Pimm's left over from a Summer party last year.

I think I'm OK at that.

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Probably coincidence but there is a town called Werther in Westphalia.
Where they started making sweets in 1903.

In Germany they're called 'Werthers Echte' and I think they might be German alright. I seem to remember dubbed TV ads for them from the 90s.

Just another random observation is that Germany also has its own brands of Worcestershire sauce. The two I know of are from East German producers, as it happens; Altenburger and Exzellent. I have a bottle of Altenburger in the press at the moment and it's not bad stuff. Different, but tasty enough.

Thomas_IV · 24-01-2019 4:18pm

mikeecho wrote: »

So , if brexit and a hard boarder become a reality, what products will be in short supply.

It's fine to say that xyz are made in Ireland, but some of their ingredients may be UK sourced.

I'll stockpile 200l diesel, 80l petrol, some Heinz products, sauce and cans.. essentials like YR sauce and Colman's mustard, Lee and peering wousyershire sauce, and a few other bits.

Is there anything that I should get pre hard exit.. should it happen.

Some already bought this:

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2019/0122/1024795-brexit-survival-kit/

Brexit survival kit on sale for £295

The "Brexit Box", retailing at £295, provides food rations to last 30 days, according to its producer, businessman James Blake who says he has already sold hundreds of them.

...

The Brexit Box includes 60 portions of freeze-dried UK favourites - chicken tikka, chilli con carne, macaroni cheese and chicken fajitas, 48 portions of dried mince and chicken, firelighter liquid and an emergency water filter.

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The Brexit Box's long shelf life - the canned food will last up to 25 years - is appealing for consumers.

It costs estimated €339.

quokula · 24-01-2019 4:20pm

AllForIt wrote: »

He may be optically bad but he hasn't done anything really bad. Yet.

I'd say his rolling back of environmental policies and generally doing all he can to speed up climate change is really bad. And his policies that have directly led to the deaths of young children on the border aren't great either.

4068ac1elhodqr · 24-01-2019 4:31pm

quokula wrote: »

I'd say his rolling back of environmental policies and generally doing all he can to speed up climate change is really bad. And his policies that have directly led to the deaths of young children on the border aren't great either.

Don't think he ever invited a caravan of folks to show up at the border. Probably saved a few million folks by not showing up in Syria (HC wanted to), and playing twitter hard ball with Rocketman Kim, who's since backed down.

Maybe ask China what the story is with building coal powerstations in Africa, regarding the environment.

4068ac1elhodqr · 24-01-2019 4:34pm

Thomas_IV wrote: »

Some already bought this:

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2019/0122/1024795-brexit-survival-kit/

It costs estimated €339.

A few hundred for a few tins is 'comedy panic'.

Could probably pick this lot (This Brexit Box) up from a trip to a couple of shops and still have change of a 50note.

https://www.emergencyfoodstorage.co.uk/products/brexit-box

Tins
Macaroni Cheese - 1 Tins (10 Servings)
Pasta Bolognaise - 1 Tin (8 Servings)
Chicken Tikka - 1 Tin (8 Servings)
Chicken Fajita - 1 Tin (8 Servings)
Beef And Potato Stew - 1 Tin (6 Servings)
Sweet And Sour Chicken - 1 Tin (8 Servings)
Diced Chicken - 1 tin (24 portions)
Minced Beef - 1 tin (24 portions)

Packets
Pasta Bolognaise - 1 (1 Serving)
Chicken Tikka - 1 (1 Serving)
Chicken Fajita - 1 (1 Serving)
Beef And Potato Stew - 1 (1 Serving)
Sweet And Sour Chicken - 1 (1 Serving)
Salmon Broccoli Pasta - 1 (1 Serving)
Vegetable Tikka - 1 (1 Serving)
Chilli Con Carne - 1 (1 Serving)
Vegetable Chipotle Chilli - 1 (1 Serving)
Chicken Fried Rice - 1 (1 Serving)
Macaroni Cheese - 1 (1 Serving)
Vegetable Fried Rice - 1 (1 Serving)

Water Filter
Aquamira Green Line water basics Bottle Filter

Fire Starter
200ml Fire Dragon Gel

Spanish Eyes · 24-01-2019 4:42pm

Well I’m thinking that a combo of heavy snow and Brexit will lead to disaster here.

The snow was bad enough last year!

Anyway for good or ill I’m not buying into panic stockpiling. I may regret that decision but am holding out for now.

Chris_Heilong · 24-01-2019 5:03pm

Car parts for me as most of my classic car parts are nit available in Ireland.

ebbsy · 24-01-2019 5:04pm

Minge.

I am going to stock up on minge.

Deebles McBeebles · 24-01-2019 5:11pm

Gonna stock up on St.George's cross flags. You never know when they will invade again and then you'll all be f*cked!

Not me, I'll be in my gaff, sipping pimms with High Commander Wolstenholme. Chatting about the stupid Paddys and how best to go about culling the wildlife.

Esel · 24-01-2019 6:44pm

Beatrice Sour Queue wrote: »

A few hundred for a few tins is 'comedy panic'.

Could probably pick this lot (This Brexit Box) up from a trip to a couple of shops and still have change of a 50note.

https://www.emergencyfoodstorage.co.uk/products/brexit-box

Tins
Macaroni Cheese - 1 Tins (10 Servings)
Pasta Bolognaise - 1 Tin (8 Servings)
Chicken Tikka - 1 Tin (8 Servings)
Chicken Fajita - 1 Tin (8 Servings)
Beef And Potato Stew - 1 Tin (6 Servings)
Sweet And Sour Chicken - 1 Tin (8 Servings)
Diced Chicken - 1 tin (24 portions)
Minced Beef - 1 tin (24 portions)

Packets
Pasta Bolognaise - 1 (1 Serving)
Chicken Tikka - 1 (1 Serving)
Chicken Fajita - 1 (1 Serving)
Beef And Potato Stew - 1 (1 Serving)
Sweet And Sour Chicken - 1 (1 Serving)
Salmon Broccoli Pasta - 1 (1 Serving)
Vegetable Tikka - 1 (1 Serving)
Chilli Con Carne - 1 (1 Serving)
Vegetable Chipotle Chilli - 1 (1 Serving)
Chicken Fried Rice - 1 (1 Serving)
Macaroni Cheese - 1 (1 Serving)
Vegetable Fried Rice - 1 (1 Serving)

Water Filter
Aquamira Green Line water basics Bottle Filter

Fire Starter
200ml Fire Dragon Gel

How big are those tins? :eek:

What to stock up on.. Brexit

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