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Summer 2019 - General Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    June 2012....my wettest month on record! What a month. 242.4mm.

    Interesting. What was your highest daily rainfall of it?

    Rainfall totals for a range of selected Irish stations during 1st-8th June 2012 and 10th-14th June 2013.

    Good few stations recorded at least 70mm during the period in 2012 (with up to 137.2mm at Carrick-on-Suir, Co. Tipperary) whilst only Valentia Observatory stands out for the period in 2013.

    c2KRc53.png

    Data from Met Éireann.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro




  • Registered Users Posts: 33,752 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Great weather, farmers are happy as is my garden.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Great weather, farmers are happy as is my garden.

    Farmers are never happy ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3




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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,154 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    Interesting. What was your highest daily rainfall of it?

    49.2mm on 3rd.

    Had a few other notable days that month. 37.8mm on 7th, 25.8mm on 14th, 37.8mm on 21st and 17.2mm on 22nd.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,963 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    latest ensembles are showing a continuation of unsettled conditions into the 3rd week of June. Temperatures look set to remain below average till about the 14th of June, with a slight increase to normal values from the 15th, with no real sign of any proper warmth.

    It looks a given that we're in for a largely unsettled and cool month, perhaps next week we may see more positive signs towards the last week of the month.

    This is a bit like winter, chasing that cold spell, except here we are looking for signs of settled and warm conditions. We didn't get a sniff of northern blocking all winter, yet now in Summer there is no shortage of it, and that is why we are experiencing all the muck. We need this northern blocking to weaken over the month for a chance of something decent in July.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Neddyusa


    km79 wrote: »
    The rainfall warning issued only a few hours ago and the morning forecast already look wrong
    Clearing to showers with clear spells in connacht and Munster by afternoon ???????
    I don’t think so

    Yep - that rain front went about 100km further West than was forecast even yesterday evening.
    In fact it's looking more likely to reach the nw coast and clear from the South East coasts.
    Not the sort of shift from a forecast you want when you've cut silage the day before :-/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,143 ✭✭✭OldRio


    Well so much for showers. Never stopped raining since about 9.30am. 10C temp.

    Brought wood in for the fire tonight. This is not good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,179 ✭✭✭pauldry


    We were at 6mm for month but prob another 6mm in past hour. Its been lashing


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,963 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    still pouring here at Dunshaughlin, gutters overflowing. Looks like it's going to stay raining into nightfall with alot more rain to come today.

    Despite the unsettled outlook, I still think this will be the worst week in terms of rainfall and low temperatures. Conditions should slowly improve next week. We may even have 1 or 2 dry days next week hopefully.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,478 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I may not be able to cycle to work all week due to rain, can’t remember this happening before. Did we have weather this bad in winter or is summer more likely to be the rainier season? Shocking stuff though :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    I may not be able to cycle to work all week due to rain, can’t remember this happening before. Did we have weather this bad in winter or is summer more likely to be the rainier season? Shocking stuff though :(

    Well we did have one of the most anticyclonic winters of the past decade.. other one was 2016-17.

    Thing with summer is that it can be exceptionally wet or exceptionally dry depending on the pattern that develops because the jet stream is weakest in late spring and most of summer (due to little contrast in temperatures between the tropics and arctic unlike during winter) so there is not much to give patterns a push. Some years, blocking sets in the right place to deliver us hot weather like 2018 whilst other times, the blocking is in the wrong place to deliver hot weather like it was in every summer from 2007 to 2012, 2015, second half of 2017 and now early summer 2019.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,357 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I may not be able to cycle to work all week due to rain, can’t remember this happening before. Did we have weather this bad in winter or is summer more likely to be the rainier season? Shocking stuff though :(

    Irish weather doesn't work like that, we are subject to the movement and position of the jetstream and although temperature profile will on average be seasonal, it is not shocking or unprecedented to get a succession of low pressures at any time of year. This time last year was the beginning of a drought, next year flip the coin again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,478 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    But it really seems like I get soaked more on the bike in our so called summer rather than the rest of the year. Last year was a freak year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 286 ✭✭eon1208


    A good June is more important than a good July farm wise. I hope this northern blocking somehow weakens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    It is ridiculous that they have not updated the rainfall forecast on Met website given how wrong it is. I would hate to be working in a job that has me relying on it. Mistakes are made as forecasting is not an exact science. But even to my untrained eye it was obviously miles off as early as 8am this morning and yet it is still the same sequence.

    It is a bit of a weird day here. Flits between light, very light, very heavy then back to light rain


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,357 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    km79 wrote: »
    It is ridiculous that they have not updated the rainfall forecast on Met website given how wrong it is. I would hate to be working in a job that has me relying on it. Mistakes are made as forecasting is not an exact science. But even to my untrained eye it was obviously miles off as early as 8am this morning and yet it is still the same sequence.

    It is a bit of a weird day here. Flits between light, very light, very heavy then back to light rain

    Wrong how?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    As a case in point, here's a comparison between two different types of blocked summer patterns you can have.

    The first chart is from 7th July 2012. There is a trough of low pressure centred over southwestern England with blocking anticyclones out in the Atlantic to the northwest of Ireland and ridging up to Greenland. With a weak jet stream given the time of year, there is nothing to push the low pressure away from the UK and Ireland due to all the high pressure out to the west. Therefore, the low pressure gets stuck around the country for a good few days before eventually getting a push by the 12th July only allowing more areas of low pressure to come in.

    CFSR_1_2012070712_1.png

    This second chart is from 28th June 2018 (the hottest day of the season). There is an omega block of high pressure dominating the UK and Ireland with the jet stream stuck way to the north. Iceland had one of its worst Junes on record with less than 80 hrs of sunshine recorded at Reykjavik if I remember correctly. Our weather systems that would normally affect us were displaced northwards in 2018 by a favourable blocking pattern (Scandi High and a ridgey Azores High) resulting in the coolest summer for Greenland in quite a while as the vast majority of summers have been unusually mild since 2007 there.

    CFSR_1_2018062812_1.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Wrong how?

    since that time this morning the predictive sequence has been showing the band of rain hugging the east coast leaving the entire western half of the country dry
    Now go and compare that to the radar
    Or look out the window depending on where you are based


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    km79 wrote: »
    since that time this morning the predictive sequence has been showing the band of rain hugging the east coast leaving the entire western half of the country dry
    Now go and compare that to the radar
    Or look out the window depending on where you are based

    It has updated now to reflect the actual weather we have had for the past 8 hours
    And looks like another 24 hours of it
    Could be worse
    Could live in Sligo which looks like it won’t be dry until Friday !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,179 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Theres been as much rain in Casement today as in May AND June 2018 combined


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,963 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    If anyone is travelling around Meath, caution should be taken on side roads, some flooding already on side roads, lots of surface water, even on main roads and water gushing down the side of roads. Could be some proper flooding here later on if this keeps up for another 7 or 8 hours with ditches overflowing.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,963 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    What's starting to worry me is looking at the radar since this morning and very little movement has taken place.The rain seems to be pivoting around the same areas and going nowhere fast.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    The LP is trapped by higher pressure zones on all four sides. It's going nowhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Gonzo wrote: »
    What's starting to worry me is looking at the radar since this morning and very little movement has taken place.The rain seems to be pivoting around the same areas and going nowhere fast.

    This - heavy rainfall with brief interludes of showers. Little or no variation with temp and wind throughout the day tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,322 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    Bone dry in Cork City - was wet this morning alright but most of the rain was overnight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    The LP is trapped by higher pressure zones on all four sides. It's going nowhere.

    Indeed.

    Just in now too that May 2019 had record -NAO amplitude according to NOAA which I find somewhat odd as Iberia did have a ridge.

    https://twitter.com/mikarantane/status/1135937888632344577


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    Dry in Cork City but some gusts of wind, it is fairly chilly though for the start of june!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    I think the worst thing about this terrible terrible day is how cold it is


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    10C and pissing down in Letterkenny, cold wind as well. Fairly bleak after relaxing in 30C heat at the weekend


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,963 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    rain has eased off into drizzly muck. Fire lit since 5pm. A truly horrendous day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Gonzo wrote: »
    rain has eased off into drizzly muck. Fire lit since 5pm. A truly horrendous day.

    I went ahead with my bbq dinner
    Both neighbors have fires lit or the heating on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Does anyone have the url for the old met radar page. I deleted my tab by accident.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Hooter23


    No sign of climate change in Galway just the same old sh**e as usual... :rolleyes:


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,963 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    back to heavy rain again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭lolie


    Does anyone have the url for the old met radar page. I deleted my tab by accident.

    Thanks

    http://archive.met.ie/latest/rainfall_radar.asp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,882 ✭✭✭✭Rock Lesnar


    Rain has eased off slightly here now, still a sh*t evening


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,220 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Moderate in Kildare. 22mm for this event.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    Bitter cold. There really are no words to describe this ****e. Dark and miserable out.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭MidMan25


    Bitter cold. There really are no words to describe this ****e. Dark and miserable out.
    It's really poor even for Ireland. Been dry in south Cork since morning as well but the temperatures wouldn't be out of place in mid winter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Only 10.6c at Gurteen today, coldest June max at any Irish station as far as I can see since 3 June 2012. Just the culmination of this atrocious day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,882 ✭✭✭✭Rock Lesnar


    15 hours of continuous rain here in meath, eased off about 2 hours ago to drizzle but back lashing it down now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,478 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    My Ma says she has the heat on, in June! So you basically need the heat for 8 or 9 months a year in Ireland. Today could happen at any time of the year too. I am definitely retiring somewhere warm.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,963 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    north-west Spain and Portugal were also affected by the same system that brought us our misery today. Parts of Northern Spain only reached the mid teens today which is extremely low for there.

    Ireland was indeed the coldest country today overall, with the exception of Iceland and the far north of Scandinavia. UK was cool as well, but temperatures held up fairly well in southern and eastern England.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭dexter647


    I haven't come to this decision lightly but I think it's time to build an ark here in my part of south Laois:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭appledrop


    20.7mm of rain today at Dublin airport. Unbelievable. It's not just the rain but how cold it is aswell. This is depressing + if that low doesn't shift soon we will be left with it for the rest of summer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    It has been heavy rain in Dublin 4 for 7 hours now without a break. Seems to have gotten even heavier the last half hour or so. It's nice to be inside and hear it pattering away on the roof. It also allows a nice cool breeze in through the window. But it's hard to escape the grim weather the last three weeks, bar a few days of balmy mild conditions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Just looked at the stats there for last summer. It's
    Only 4th June but in four days we have had the same amount of rain at Dublin airport as the whole of May + June 2018 added together. I know that was a drought but still depressing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,781 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    appledrop wrote: »
    Just looked at the stats there for last summer. It's
    Only 4th June but in four days we have had the same amount of rain at Dublin airport as the whole of May + June 2018 added together. I know that was a drought but still depressing.
    Ah, it could be worse.


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