Newbridge Chat Thread

Damien360 · 28-11-2020 11:27pm

Tacs132132 wrote: »

What plans are in place to build additional secondary school if new housing developments proceed? There is already a massive shortage of secondary school places in Newbridge/Kildare before any new additional houses are built.

There are no plans. Patrician secondary is in preliminary stages of planning for a significant upgrade which will include extra height. That’s about the lot of it unless you believe what every politician trots out every election. Promises without timelines. Newbridge is very poorly represented in the council.

WishUWereHere · 29-11-2020 12:12am

Damien360 wrote: »

There are no plans. Patrician secondary is in preliminary stages of planning for a significant upgrade which will include extra height. That’s about the lot of it unless you believe what every politician trots out every election. Promises without timelines. Newbridge is very poorly represented in the council.

Never a truer word spoken Damien. We’re we also led to believe that there was a secondary school
In the pipeline for Educate Together.

Somebody recently said there are hundreds of houses planned for out by the cemetery, while opposite Sarsfields there will eventually be between 3 & four hundred houses also being built. I also saw today they have started building opposite Brennan’s.

Great to see all these houses being built, but yet Isherwood is the roads to support all the extra traffic that will be generated? And as for getting a family GP?

GavMan · 29-11-2020 11:52am

Damien360 wrote: »

There are no plans. Patrician secondary is in preliminary stages of planning for a significant upgrade which will include extra height. That’s about the lot of it unless you believe what every politician trots out every election. Promises without timelines. Newbridge is very poorly represented in the council.

What remit does the county council have with respect to secondary school places? Surely this is a central government issue

Damien360 · 29-11-2020 12:02pm

GavMan wrote: »

What remit does the county council have with respect to secondary school places? Surely this is a central government issue

It is far from a central government issue. They provide the promised cash but your local council has to identify the need. They also control the “gate” for planning permission in your area. If your local council agrees to 1000 homes, then as night follows day, they should be planning for the school. But that doesn’t happen and your local councillors have to speak up at council meetings to show there is a need. Same if you want a swimming pool or any other service in Newbridge.

To outline how poor your local representatives are. Look at the proposed parking charges over the Christmas period. Newbridge is full charges while reduced or zero charges are in effect across many other towns.

The Newbridge local councillors love Facebook but do sweet FA. We are very close in population to Naas and second largest in the county but have very poor services by comparison.

NedNew2 · 29-11-2020 2:13pm

Based on the last census Newbridge is bigger than Naas and is in fact the largest settlement in the county (2016).

pad199207 · 29-11-2020 2:22pm

NedNew2 wrote: »

Based on the last census Newbridge is bigger than Naas and is in fact the largest settlement in the county (2016).

Back then yeah. I wouldn’t say that’s the case now with the large increase of estates in Naas since then. Factor in Johnstown and Sallins aswell hardly any separation between the areas now.

Damien360 · 29-11-2020 3:21pm

NedNew2 wrote: »

Based on the last census Newbridge is bigger than Naas and is in fact the largest settlement in the county (2016).

I’m using the Covid app for current population size. Not sure where it pulls it data from.

tommyboy26 · 02-12-2020 12:56am

On a walk up the town today and noticed work going on it the old yvonnes shop. I have been saying for years its a prime spot and always wondered why no one ever used it sooner. anyone know what is going in there. It was nice to walk down the town and see work going on in there and the old arch bar and now multibuy shop up and running in the old xtravision. it gives me hope in these uncertain times

GavMan · 02-12-2020 1:32pm

tommyboy26 wrote: »

On a walk up the town today and noticed work going on it the old yvonnes shop. I have been saying for years its a prime spot and always wondered why no one ever used it sooner. anyone know what is going in there. It was nice to walk down the town and see work going on in there and the old arch bar and now multibuy shop up and running in the old xtravision. it gives me hope in these uncertain times

Always thought the same about Yvonne's myself. Figured it must have been a rent/unit size issue. Spar would squeeze any kind of newsagent/corner shop gig. Interesting to see what it becomes. Hopefully not another vape or phone repair outfit

WishUWereHere · 02-12-2020 8:22pm

GavMan wrote: »

Always thought the same about Yvonne's myself. Figured it must have been a rent/unit size issue. Spar would squeeze any kind of newsagent/corner shop gig. Interesting to see what it becomes. Hopefully not another vape or phone repair outfit

Or another take-away. More than enough of them I the Town already.

WishUWereHere · 05-12-2020 9:46pm

I was out at Walshestown X today & noticed that there appears 2 building sites: one behind the cemetery, & the other directly opposite Riverside Grove. They both new housing developments?

Cazale · 05-12-2020 10:04pm

WishUWereHere wrote:

I was out at Walshestown X today & noticed that there appears 2 building sites: one behind the cemetery, & the other directly opposite Riverside Grove. They both new housing developments?

Yeah both housing developments. The one behind the cemetery is ongoing three years now. It's a nuisance.

The other one is Belin woods discussed recently which will see the extension of the park and eventually the new bypass of the town.

WishUWereHere · 05-12-2020 10:24pm

Cazale wrote: »

Yeah both housing developments. The one behind the cemetery is ongoing three years now. It's a nuisance.

The other one is Belin woods discussed recently which will see the extension of the park and eventually the new bypass of the town.

How big are these developments? That road surely cannot take on anymore traffic.

Cazale · 05-12-2020 10:30pm

WishUWereHere wrote:

How big are these developments? That road surely cannot take on anymore traffic.

The one behind the cemetery is the completion of kilbelin abbey. Developer stopped during the recession. Think it's 80+ houses.

Belin woods is 200+ houses with a few apartments thrown in. The junction at the lights will be updated.

richiek83 · 06-12-2020 2:56pm

Cazale wrote: »

The one behind the cemetery is the completion of kilbelin abbey. Developer stopped during the recession. Think it's 80+ houses.

Belin woods is 200+ houses with a few apartments thrown in. The junction at the lights will be updated.

Correct, Belin Woods is 343 homes according to Council website.

WishUWereHere · 13-12-2020 4:46pm

Just home from WSC. More or less queues outside all the stores - great to see. I know having to queue isn't everyone's cup of tea, but damn it our shops NEED support after the year they have had.

Only blight is the shutters down on Debenhams.

OMM 0000 · 14-12-2020 12:04pm

There's a part-time teaching job (Spanish) going at Harristown House, just a few minutes outside Newbridge.

This is a part time position starting in June 2021. The position will be for 8/10 weeks during the summer Monday to Friday and then after school from September 2021. We aspire to a fun dynamic child centred learning atmosphere where the emphasis is on the oral production in the language. The suitable candidate will have experience in teaching Spanish as a foreign language or may have experience teaching English as a foreign language and be fluent in Spanish. Flexibility and creativity is a must for this job. This person will be happy to work independently.

Please apply at https://kildarejobs.ie/job/14129072/part-time-primary-spanish-teacher

Cazale · 14-12-2020 11:11pm

GavMan wrote: »

Always thought the same about Yvonne's myself. Figured it must have been a rent/unit size issue. Spar would squeeze any kind of newsagent/corner shop gig. Interesting to see what it becomes. Hopefully not another vape or phone repair outfit

Walked by it today. All trace of Yvonnes gone. Sign for blum wellness taken down too. Anyone know what it will be?

lashofeye · 17-12-2020 5:11pm

Is there even a hint of a playground within this development? How many new homes is that being built in newbridge now? The school are going to be oversubscribes in a few years ?!

silver2020 · 17-12-2020 5:41pm

lashofeye wrote: »

Is there even a hint of a playground within this development? How many new homes is that being built in newbridge now? The school are going to be oversubscribes in a few years ?!

Councils use computer models to predict everything from likely traffic to schools etc.

What naysayers will always assume is 300 houses = 600 cars all leaving at 8.30am with 2.4 kids per house all at the exact same age and they try and rile people up with scaremongering predictions which never ever come true.

Same argument if there's a new shop (esp lidl/aldi)

If you wish, go to the council website and read the various planning reports on the developments and you can also see the general layout.

You'll find that quite a bit of work goes into planning especially large developments

richiek83 · 17-12-2020 7:47pm

lashofeye wrote: »

Is there even a hint of a playground within this development? How many new homes is that being built in newbridge now? The school are going to be oversubscribes in a few years ?!

Yes, there is a playground according to planning documents.

WishUWereHere · 31-12-2020 3:16pm

Thankfully 2020 is almost over.

Just like to take this opportunity of wishing everyone and their Loved Ones everything of the best for 2021.

And STAY SAFE!

Damien360 · 31-12-2020 4:05pm

We are to receive 4 people that were recently in the news. Sent from Kerry for causing serious trouble and will be in Ballymany cottages

https://amp.rte.ie/amp/1186888/[url][/url]

WishUWereHere · 31-12-2020 5:10pm

Damien360 wrote: »

We are to receive 4 people that were recently in the news. Sent from Kerry for causing serious trouble and will be in Ballymany cottages

https://amp.rte.ie/amp/1186888/[url][/url]

Dare I ask: Why Ballymany/Newbridge?

Darc19 · 31-12-2020 6:05pm

Damien360 wrote: »

We are to receive 4 people that were recently in the news. Sent from Kerry for causing serious trouble and will be in Ballymany cottages

https://amp.rte.ie/amp/1186888/[url][/url]

Long history of trouble making and Traveller feuding in killarney.

Absolute scum and a total disregard for the law. - plenty of previous.

WishUWereHere · 25-01-2021 9:13pm

I am not around during the day due to work. But am wondering if the Aldi construction is stopped due to the CV19 restrictions?

Damien360 · 25-01-2021 9:20pm

WishUWereHere wrote: »

I am not around during the day due to work. But am wondering if the Aldi construction is stopped due to the CV19 restrictions?

Construction stopped unless your completion date was by end of month or you were deemed essential.

https://cif.ie/coronavirus/[url][/url]

Cazale · 25-01-2021 9:21pm

WishUWereHere wrote:

I am not around during the day due to work. But am wondering if the Aldi construction is stopped due to the CV19 restrictions?

It has. There is a bit of work going on at the adjacent site but not much.

richiek83 · 25-01-2021 9:59pm

Cazale wrote: »

It has. There is a bit of work going on at the adjacent site but not much.

Think the adjacent site is the works being done by Irish Water.

Also, application in by Treacy Group to modify and alter previous permission for block CC2 of the extension of Newbridge Retail Park. They are looking the change use of approved educational facilities to 8 two bedroom apartments and slight amendment to retail units size.

tommyboy26 · 26-01-2021 2:54am

richiek83 wrote: »

Think the adjacent site is the works being done by Irish Water.

Also, application in by Treacy Group to modify and alter previous permission for block CC2 of the extension of Newbridge Retail Park. They are looking the change use of approved educational facilities to 8 two bedroom apartments and slight amendment to retail units size.

any idea when the work on treacys planning permission will begin.

richiek83 · 26-01-2021 1:28pm

tommyboy26 wrote: »

any idea when the work on treacys planning permission will begin.

No indication. The original planning for this extension was given in Nov 16. Developers usually have 5 years under approval to commence. As I mentioned in this forum a few months ago, I wouldn't be surprised to see more of this area receive an application to amend existing permission to incorporate more residential.

The Irish Water works will be finished within a few months in this area and I suppose we'll see then what Treacy Groups real intentions are.

Cazale · 02-02-2021 12:32am

Irish Water will be starting their works on the Athgarvan Road from February 10th to March 23rd. The road will be closed near lidl for the duration.

richiek83 · 02-02-2021 6:54pm

richiek83 wrote: »

Think the adjacent site is the works being done by Irish Water.

Also, application in by Treacy Group to modify and alter previous permission for block CC2 of the extension of Newbridge Retail Park. They are looking the change use of approved educational facilities to 8 two bedroom apartments and slight amendment to retail units size.

Documents are now up on KCC website for the Treacy Group application. Decision expected around Paddy's Day.

Treacy has a new change of use application in for the former Lifestyle unit at the Courtyard. They are seeking change of use to educational. Likely to relocate the Leinster School from its current premises near TK Maxx.

Petermc83 · 16-02-2021 10:36am

Road closure at the back of Dunnes Stores/ Newbridge Retail Park currently. This was due to happen early Jan but was appealed by a local business.
Looks like work is back underway.

Just to warn people if they use this route to avoid it. Traffic is being diverted through the town.

Damien360 · 16-02-2021 2:05pm

Petermc83 wrote: »

Road closure at the back of Dunnes Stores/ Newbridge Retail Park currently. This was due to happen early Jan but was appealed by a local business.
Looks like work is back underway.

Just to warn people if they use this route to avoid it. Traffic is being diverted through the town.

It’s stranger than that. Traffic is diverted through SuperValu carpark then around the back of Lidl and back out on to the road. Stay on the left lane when you enter the carpark as it gets a bit weird on the dominos pizza side.

silverview · 18-02-2021 11:15am

I was recently in the paddocks having a look at the new houses, there is a lot of work going on in the paddocks to get it finished. I noticed that there are apartment blocks in the Paddocks. What's the story with these apartments? I think they look out of place in that development, granted they are down the very end of the development but who would buy an apartment there? or are these all social?

Also I heard that as part of the planning permission for these apartments there has to be an entrance to station road to access them.

richiek83 · 18-02-2021 1:38pm

silverview wrote: »

I was recently in the paddocks having a look at the new houses, there is a lot of work going on in the paddocks to get it finished. I noticed that there are apartment blocks in the Paddocks. What's the story with these apartments? I think they look out of place in that development, granted they are down the very end of the development but who would buy an apartment there? or are these all social?

Also I heard that as part of the planning permission for these apartments there has to be an entrance to station road to access them.

The apartments probably make sense close to the railway line and station IMO, its decent density around a public transport node. Not sure whether they are all social or mixed though.

The LAP indicates that a section of relief street through the site be constructed and the developer is building the part that runs through their site.

However, it is a different developer that owns the land where there will be a missing link between The Paddocks and the apartments/ gym near station road. It will probably be only 100 metres or so of road that will be missing.

NewbridgeIR · 21-02-2021 10:57pm

After 15 years I have stopped shopping at M&S in Whitewater
It was going downhill for a few years but since Brexit kicked in, it's woeful. Loads of gaps on the shelves, serious lack of selection now, most things on short(er) dates than usual.

Cazale · 09-03-2021 10:51am

A decision is expected shortly on whether Kildare County Council has been successful in its bid for funding of a second Liffey crossing in Newbridge.

It has applied for monies to begin the project to the Dept. of Housing, under Call 2 of the Urban Regeneration and Development Fund,.

The Minister for Housing Darragh O'Brien, says "The assessment process for proposals received under Call 2 is nearing completion, and I intend to soon announce a new tranche of URDF supported proposals, which will augment the existing pipeline of projects from Call 1".

GavMan · 09-03-2021 11:32am

Cazale wrote: »

A decision is expected shortly on whether Kildare County Council has been successful in its bid for funding of a second Liffey crossing in Newbridge.

It has applied for monies to begin the project to the Dept. of Housing, under Call 2 of the Urban Regeneration and Development Fund,.

The Minister for Housing Darragh O'Brien, says "The assessment process for proposals received under Call 2 is nearing completion, and I intend to soon announce a new tranche of URDF supported proposals, which will augment the existing pipeline of projects from Call 1".

Badly needed IMO. Would take a lot of Traffic in rush hour heading for the Athgarvan road out of the town, providing some relief for the town and those living in close proximity and those living around the train station

Not a panacea by any means but a large piece of the puzzle I think

Petermc83 · 09-03-2021 12:28pm

Cazale wrote: »

A decision is expected shortly on whether Kildare County Council has been successful in its bid for funding of a second Liffey crossing in Newbridge.

It has applied for monies to begin the project to the Dept. of Housing, under Call 2 of the Urban Regeneration and Development Fund,.

The Minister for Housing Darragh O'Brien, says "The assessment process for proposals received under Call 2 is nearing completion, and I intend to soon announce a new tranche of URDF supported proposals, which will augment the existing pipeline of projects from Call 1".

Any idea where the proposed 2nd crossing would be?

Is it to be included in the new housing development being built opposite Liffey Hall? I seem to remember that the proposed link road which is funded by the developer stops at a certain point and then it is up to the KCC to complete it by joining it to the new link road at the Dr Pepper site leading onto the Naas Road.

Cazale · 09-03-2021 12:31pm

Petermc83 wrote:

Is it to be included in the new housing development being built opposite Liffey Hall? I seem to remember that the proposed link road which is funded by the developer stops at a certain point and then it is up to the KCC to complete it by joining it to the new link road at the Dr Pepper site leading onto the Naas Road.

That's it. The council have cleared a load of trees and hedging around the traffic lights recently in preparation for widening the junction.

richiek83 · 09-03-2021 1:08pm

Petermc83 wrote: »

Any idea where the proposed 2nd crossing would be?

Is it to be included in the new housing development being built opposite Liffey Hall? I seem to remember that the proposed link road which is funded by the developer stops at a certain point and then it is up to the KCC to complete it by joining it to the new link road at the Dr Pepper site leading onto the Naas Road.

Indicative alignment in the attached pic. Glenveagh will build approx 250 metres of the relief road as part of their development.

There are ground investigations work ongoing at the moment on the land beside Wellesley Manor which goes close to the river from that side of town. Spoke with one of the staff members from the company who stated they are doing the ground and soil samples for a proposed housing development of houses/ duplexes and apartments (it will be worth keeping an eye on). The developer will likely construct a section of the relief road close to the river if they get permission. This may ultimately leave the short section with the bridge as the missing link.

matchthis · 11-03-2021 8:00pm

Anyone know where I could pick up foil helium balloons tomorrow? All next day delivery places are swamped with Mother’s Day

long_b · 11-03-2021 8:14pm

matchthis wrote: »

Anyone know where I could pick up foil helium balloons tomorrow? All next day delivery places are swamped with Mother’s Day

Woodies?

long_b · 11-03-2021 8:15pm

matchthis wrote: »

Anyone know where I could pick up foil helium balloons tomorrow? All next day delivery places are swamped with Mother’s Day

Iiy

tommyboy26 · 14-03-2021 11:57am

i see curtmount properties have applied for planning to build 3 units beside where aldi are been bulit.

i thought curtmount was aldi???

anyone know what is going in there.

planning number 21278

no documents up for it yet

richiek83 · 14-03-2021 12:18pm

tommyboy26 wrote: »

i see curtmount properties have applied for planning to build 3 units beside where aldi are been bulit.

i thought curtmount was aldi???

anyone know what is going in there.

planning number 21278

no documents up for it yet

This is an extension of duration for existing planning permission for the extension of the retail park which was granted in 2016. Planning permissions generally last for five years and if project hasn't commenced in that timeframe, extension of permission is usually required/ requested.

silver2020 · 14-03-2021 4:51pm

tommyboy26 wrote: »

i see curtmount properties have applied for planning to build 3 units beside where aldi are been bulit.

i thought curtmount was aldi???

anyone know what is going in there.

planning number 21278

no documents up for it yet

Curtmount Properties is owned by Tom Treacy who owns the entire site, but different companies under his ownership run different parts of the site and all under the umbrella of Treacy Property group. (also owns Naas Town Centre)
Its very similar to application 15819 from 2015

Cazale · 15-03-2021 9:52pm

There's anger and frustration at the lack of funding announced for a second bridge in Newbridge under the second round of the Urban Regeneration and Development Fund.

North Kildare projects in Naas, Maynooth and Celbridge received a combined €15.9 million.

No scheme in the south of the county won funding.

Fianna Fáíl Senator, Fiona O'Loughlin, Newbridge is currently experiencing a critical infrastructural blockage which must be remedied.

Fine Gael Kildare South TD and Minister of State, Martin Heydon, says he wants an accounting of why the project wasn't funded.

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