Daytripper 2015

Mr.H · 31-03-2015 1:31pm

AdMMM wrote: »

Well then if you have sources who know who's playing, or likely to play, presumably they're close to the organisers so why don't you ask them what it takes to run a festival?

My source is not involved in the technical aspects but they have given me a few pointers

old gregg wrote: »

From experience I can tell you that you'll spend much of your time having your buzz completely wrecked. It really takes dedication to work through that. Especially when you reach the end of your first festival so far in debt you'll despair. And then get back up and do it all again the following year and if you're lucky come out of it a little less in debt and hoping that year 3 breaks even.

From the feedback I have been getting I'm going to look at a cost effective way of running something maybe this year or next. Possibly getting a bar or two on board and running some sort of event. Seems like tough work and a lot of negativity surrounding it (not even just on here but in the real world. I guess its a case of a few people that are already doing it dont want more competition)

old gregg · 31-03-2015 3:50pm

Mr.H wrote: »

My source is not involved in the technical aspects but they have given me a few pointers

From the feedback I have been getting I'm going to look at a cost effective way of running something maybe this year or next. Possibly getting a bar or two on board and running some sort of event. Seems like tough work and a lot of negativity surrounding it (not even just on here but in the real world. I guess its a case of a few people that are already doing it dont want more competition)

I guess if you view the opinions and warnings of others as negative because they don't want competition you'll end up in a pickle and a half. I've been involved in the music industry (mostly as a touring artist) for nearly 30 years. My personal experience at running a festival was as I've offered. Nothing negative, just a warning that it's going to be really tough. It has to be that way unless you can bankrole an absolute certainty like the Rolling Stones or U2.

To make matters ever more difficult, Waterford is probably the hardest place in Ireland to run a musical event. Why? because Waterford people historically don't support live music. I've personally seen it countless times even before deciding to run a festival here. The festival I was/am involved in was/is a community led international music festival and we couldn't give away the tickets to locals but could draw an audience from outside Waterford.

Best of luck with whatever you do mate. You're not competing with me in any way.

Mr.H · 31-03-2015 5:31pm

old gregg wrote: »

I guess if you view the opinions and warnings of others as negative because they don't want competition you'll end up in a pickle and a half. I've been involved in the music industry (mostly as a touring artist) for nearly 30 years. My personal experience at running a festival was as I've offered. Nothing negative, just a warning that it's going to be really tough. It has to be that way unless you can bankrole an absolute certainty like the Rolling Stones or U2.

To make matters ever more difficult, Waterford is probably the hardest place in Ireland to run a musical event. Why? because Waterford people historically don't support live music. I've personally seen it countless times even before deciding to run a festival here. The festival I was/am involved in was/is a community led international music festival and we couldn't give away the tickets to locals but could draw an audience from outside Waterford.

Best of luck with whatever you do mate. You're not competing with me in any way.

If you wanna discuss that there is a thread already. I just don't wanna derail this thread. But I do get what people are saying. Just not a fan of blind negativity.

In relation to the music scene though that's not just Waterford. Limerick is horrible for selling out gigs. If its not a major act, tickets usually don't sell fast. I do think that the problem is more down to the venues though. Galway, Cork hell even Kilkenny manage to sell gig in good time.

The issue is the venues are mostly all run by the same people and they don't like the idea of paying to promote. Dolans in Limerick for example. Probably the biggest music venue in Limerick (not including Thomond park) but they run the Big top as well and their local promotion is rubbish. Only in the last 12 months did they start using the local paper ffs.

They rely on word of mouth and social media. Thats all well and good but talking marketing, its not enough!

skaface · 03-04-2015 10:56pm

According to their Facebook, Acts being announced next week definitely !!!!

savic04 · 06-04-2015 7:11pm

As people mentioned above, it is proving harder then originally planned for the line up to get over the line.

The original line up would have been superb but between one or two things its so hard to finalise. Obviously MCD has a lot of acts sewn up so it is even harder to make it work.

Daytripper guys are fighting with one hand behind their back so to speak. they should be commended for trying year on year to improve it. Would be great for people to support whatever line up as we all know how good the 3 days can be.

I know 40eur might seem a lot to go to a day out with acts you may not be fully into, but the alternative is to have nothing on in 2016

O Riain · 08-04-2015 10:31am

Announcement tomorrow at 08:20am on WLR apparently!

Status Offline · 08-04-2015 12:34pm

savic04 wrote: »

As people mentioned above, it is proving harder then originally planned for the line up to get over the line.

The original line up would have been superb but between one or two things its so hard to finalise. Obviously MCD has a lot of acts sewn up so it is even harder to make it work.

Daytripper guys are fighting with one hand behind their back so to speak. they should be commended for trying year on year to improve it. Would be great for people to support whatever line up as we all know how good the 3 days can be.

I know 40eur might seem a lot to go to a day out with acts you may not be fully into, but the alternative is to have nothing on in 2016

Why would I buy tickets for people I might not want to see? I'm not a bloody charity.
I wish the festival well, but there always seems to be a sense of entitlement with people for support regardless of the quality of the event just because it's local. If it's going to be sub par and chances are you know people won't like the line up, don't do it and wait till you can provide a decent line up. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

Max Powers · 08-04-2015 1:18pm

Status Offline wrote: »

Why would I but tickets for people I might not want to see? I'm not a bloody charity.
I wish the festival well, but there always seems to be a sense of entitlement with people for support regardless of the quality of the event just because it's local. If it's going to be sub par and chances are you know people won't like the line up, don't do it and wait till you can provide a decent line up. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

To support music in your home city, support local events and businesses, its not like we couldnt do with locals coming out and supporting local stuff. Of course, its easier to be negative and knock any event that isnt exactly to your liking but many people go to support their city, €40 isnt big money, you pay €5 in most late bars in town so its not a big deal if you are fortunate enough to have a income. If it wasnt happening, guarantee a lot of the negative posters would be complaining about no events. Its a night away from your usual trip to local or whatever, see some decent bands, you might even enjoy yourself even if the bands arent top of your list. The more people support, longer it goes on, year after year, it will grow, electric picnic or anything didnt start with like it is now, it had to grow. Hopefully this attitude is in minority. I for one will be buying a couple of tickets, i rarely get out for pints so this is a great night, in the city, place will be buzzing.

The Bowling Alley · 08-04-2015 2:03pm

Max Powers wrote: »

To support music in your home city, support local events and businesses, its not like we couldnt do with locals coming out and supporting local stuff. Of course, its easier to be negative and knock any event that isnt exactly to your liking but many people go to support their city, €40 isnt big money, you pay €5 in most late bars in town so its not a big deal if you are fortunate enough to have a income. If it wasnt happening, guarantee a lot of the negative posters would be complaining about no events. Its a night away from your usual trip to local or whatever, see some decent bands, you might even enjoy yourself even if the bands arent top of your list. The more people support, longer it goes on, year after year, it will grow, electric picnic or anything didnt start with like it is now, it had to grow. Hopefully this attitude is in minority. I for one will be buying a couple of tickets, i rarely get out for pints so this is a great night, in the city, place will be buzzing.

Hold on a second, there are two ways of looking at this, and you seem to be missing one. Take the theatre royal for instance. This weekend, Steve Porry is singing all the hits of the movies and you can enjoy them for just €25 a ticket. Who's steve porry I hear you ask? Exactly. Why on earth would you support that? Theatre royal had a madness tribute recently - €20 8 members in the band, 6 people in the audience. The theatre is losing money hand over fist and despite owning the tax man a fortune, still got 65k grant from the council.

lertsnim · 08-04-2015 2:11pm

Max Powers wrote: »

To support music in your home city, support local events and businesses, its not like we couldnt do with locals coming out and supporting local stuff. Of course, its easier to be negative and knock any event that isnt exactly to your liking but many people go to support their city, €40 isnt big money, you pay €5 in most late bars in town so its not a big deal if you are fortunate enough to have a income. If it wasnt happening, guarantee a lot of the negative posters would be complaining about no events. Its a night away from your usual trip to local or whatever, see some decent bands, you might even enjoy yourself even if the bands arent top of your list. The more people support, longer it goes on, year after year, it will grow, electric picnic or anything didnt start with like it is now, it had to grow. Hopefully this attitude is in minority. I for one will be buying a couple of tickets, i rarely get out for pints so this is a great night, in the city, place will be buzzing.

I think it is a bit much to expect people to spend €40 on a ticket to something just because it is local. €40 is big money to some people. I hope it does well but to expect blanket support from locals is a bit naive. Do enjoy your night out but berating people for having no interest in the event or lineup will do nobody any favours.

MitchKoobski · 08-04-2015 2:16pm

The Bowling Alley wrote: »

Theatre royal had a madness tribute recently - €20 8 members in the band, 6 people in the audience. The theatre is losing money hand over fist and despite owning the tax man a fortune, still got 65k grant from the council.

To be fair, I love Madness but wouldn't go see the lads themselves if it was in the Theatre Royal. Nevermind a tribute act. I'm there to have fun and dance, not sit in a chair in a theatre while listening to music. There's certain events you can easily hold in a theatre and certain musical acts that just aren't suited to it. If I wanted to sit down and listen to Madness for two hours, I'd save the €20 and do it at home. I'd pay for the live gig experience though.

The Bowling Alley · 08-04-2015 2:19pm

MitchKoobski wrote: »

To be fair, I love Madness but wouldn't go see the lads themselves if it was in the Theatre Royal. Nevermind a tribute act. I'm there to have fun and dance, not sit in a chair in a theatre while listening to music. There's certain events you can easily hold in a theatre and certain musical acts that just aren't suited to it. If I wanted to sit down and listen to Madness for two hours, I'd save the €20 and do it at home. I'd pay for the live gig experience though.

Exactly. But week in and week out they still book this kind of crap. Who is absorbing the losses?!

MitchKoobski · 08-04-2015 2:21pm

I also don't buy this whole "You have to support local, even if it doesn't interest you at all" argument. Nonsense. If it doesn't interest me, and nothing they're putting on appeals to me, then why the hell should I pay for tickets to it? Book something or something I have even a vague interest in seeing and I might buy a ticket.

You can't blame people for not buying tickets if the acts booked don't interest them. I'd rather go without an event than have someone trying to strong arm or guilt me into paying for tickets to something I have no interest in going to just so they can have a good time.

Loved Daytripper the first year, didn't interest me enough to buy a ticket last year. Hope it's supported well enough to keep it going for those that do enjoy it but throwing out the old "some people are just negative for the sake of it" gets no one nowhere.

iseegirls · 08-04-2015 2:40pm

The Bowling Alley wrote: »

Exactly. But week in and week out they still book this kind of crap. Who is absorbing the losses?!

They probably have their big weeks, like they did with Sister Act last week and Carousel coming up - where they were/will be mainly booked out for 5 days. This may cover some of the losses, but I agree that Theatre Royal is not the best place to watch a band.

fricatus · 08-04-2015 4:53pm

According to their Twitter feed, the lineup is due to be announced on WLR in the morning (some time after 8.00 I believe).

callaway92 · 08-04-2015 7:44pm

Route 94 no?

shinzon · 09-04-2015 8:42am

Saturday acts are

UB40
Soul 2 soul
Thank Funk
The Whereabouts
Two can
Skunk

Sunday Acts

The Darkness
The Riptide Movement
Propeller Palms
Smash Hits

http://www.wlrfm.com/shows/3-the-big-breakfast-blaa/1910-daytripper-2015-saturday-acts-revealed-waterford.html

http://www.wlrfm.com/shows/3-the-big-breakfast-blaa/1911-daytripper-2015-sunday-acts-revealed.html

Shin

O Riain · 09-04-2015 8:59am

shinzon wrote: »

Saturday acts are

UB40
Soul 2 soul
Thank Funk
The Whereabouts
Two can
Skunk

Sunday Acts

The Darkness
The Riptide Movement
Propeller Palms
Smash Hits

http://www.wlrfm.com/shows/3-the-big-breakfast-blaa/1910-daytripper-2015-saturday-acts-revealed-waterford.html

http://www.wlrfm.com/shows/3-the-big-breakfast-blaa/1911-daytripper-2015-sunday-acts-revealed.html

Shin

That's actually a decent line up even without the Friday (when is it announced?)

I've seen the Darkness live and they are good craic.

UB40 what can you say, some class tunes!

MRnotlob606 · 09-04-2015 11:45am

O Riain wrote: »

That's actually a decent line up even without the Friday (when is it announced?)

I've seen the Darkness live and they are good craic.

UB40 what can you say, some class tunes!

Well there is a slight problem actually.There's sort of two UB40'S after a split between its members.The leader singer , Astro and Mickey Virtue are part of a group called UB40 reunited. The rest are just known as UB40. I don't know how this will turn out. But it would be a shame if the leader wasn't there.

skaface · 09-04-2015 11:52am

MRnotlob606 wrote: »

Well there is a slight problem actually.There's sort of two UB40'S after a split between its members.The leader singer , Astro and Mickey Virtue are part of a group called UB40 reunited. The rest are just known as UB40. I don't know how this will turn out. But it would be a shame if the leader wasn't there.

Ya, was thinking same myself until they confirmed on WLR a few minutes ago that the 2 UB40,s have reunited and it's the Original line up.. Which is unusual because I haven't heard anything about that, and it would be Big News in the music world if true...
Also said Friday night announcement would be
in next few days and it's NOT Paul Weller.

lertsnim · 09-04-2015 1:20pm

Christy Moore for the Friday so.

wellboytoo · 09-04-2015 1:28pm

Waiting for another shower of Dolls to come out of the pram...........

Smell the glove · 09-04-2015 8:08pm

Can see the sense in ub40 as they will get the older crowd in and maybe some casual music fans too. Most likely that will sell out but the darkness!? Ha! They couldn't sell out a pub in clonmel a few weeks ago! They had their moment in the sun 10 years ago before people copped on to the joke they were and moved on. If they were say third on the bill you could maybe say fair enough but topping it? Hopefully the friday will save it. Hope it does well and people enjoy it but unfortunately it's not for me this year!

MentalMario · 09-04-2015 8:50pm

I was very cynical of the rumoured lineup for this festival but credit where it's due.

The Darkness aren't great, by any stretch of the imagination BUT the Sunday lineup is worth €40.

The Darkness – The Riptide Movement – Propeller Palms
Smash Hits – Mad Ferritt – Electric Movie Band

Mad Ferritt are brilliant. Smash Hits are cheesy but very feel good. Propeller Palms are good. The Riptide Movement are excellent.

UB40 will bring a big crowd but I'd say it'll be a scummy enough crowd too.

09-04-2015 9:28pm

MentalMario wrote: »

I was very cynical of the rumoured lineup for this festival but credit where it's due.

The Darkness aren't great, by any stretch of the imagination BUT the Sunday lineup is worth €40.

The Darkness – The Riptide Movement – Propeller Palms
Smash Hits – Mad Ferritt – Electric Movie Band

Mad Ferritt are brilliant. Smash Hits are cheesy but very feel good. Propeller Palms are good. The Riptide Movement are excellent.

UB40 will bring a big crowd but I'd say it'll be a scummy enough crowd too.

Are scumbags into UB40? No being sarcastic or anything just genuine curiosity.

MentalMario · 09-04-2015 9:39pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Are scumbags into UB40? No being sarcastic or anything just genuine curiosity.

Maybe I'm generalising a bit too much but I've seen a busload of complete scumbags going to a UB40 gig a few years back, and just seen a few on facebook tagging friends in a UB40 Daytripper comment.

MitchKoobski · 09-04-2015 9:43pm

Is this the current UB40 that is actually remnants of the original UB40?

Sunday line up looks like good craic.

skaface · 10-04-2015 12:04am

It's Ali , Astro & Mickey , 3 of the ORIGINAL UB40
The REST of the band are still giving as UB40 as well..
So to answer your query it's NOT really the UB40
that they said on WLR today , which said that the band had solved their differences and got
back together.. Should be still a good gig..
As regards scumbags following the band, wouldn't go that far, BUT I've seen them a few times over the years, and they have got a strong Working class following ..
Always been popular in Ireland and this will be a
Big draw like Madness were two years ago.

larchielads · 10-04-2015 12:19am

Any idea when Friday line up be announced?

skaface · 10-04-2015 12:23am

larchielads wrote: »

Any idea when Friday line up be announced?

Before the end of the weekend according
to WLR this morning.

10-04-2015 2:15am

MitchKoobski wrote: »

Is this the current UB40 that is actually remnants of the original UB40?

Sunday line up looks like good craic.

The Darkness would be good craic but fourty euro for a ticket

. Way to expensive for a band that haven't had a hit in ten years.

O Riain · 10-04-2015 10:50am

Deleted User wrote: »

The Darkness would be good craic but fourty euro for a ticket . Way to expensive for a band that haven't had a hit in ten years.

You'd probably pay €10/€15 to see the riptide and then there are other bands too so it's not really €40 JUST to see the darkness..

Max Powers · 10-04-2015 12:57pm

Deleted User wrote: »

The Darkness would be good craic but fourty euro for a ticket . Way to expensive for a band that haven't had a hit in ten years.

€40 for 5/6 bands in a festival setting, not bad in my book. really well organised last year with food, coffee stand, beer ticket system worked well. I often laugh when i hear people (not aimed at this poster but others in general) complain about paying for something when they often shell out 10 for a pack of smokes daily, often drop 40-50 in the bookies on a regular basis and would often spend multiple of 40 getting drunk out of their mind on a saturday night, still though 40 for some quality entertainment it is too much for em to bear.

The Bowling Alley · 10-04-2015 3:27pm

Same argument every bloody year.

enniscorthy · 10-04-2015 3:48pm

anybody know if dickie rock is coming back this year

skaface · 10-04-2015 6:26pm

Any news on when Friday headline acts
are being announced.

longshanks · 10-04-2015 9:21pm

Are Texas playing the Friday of this?

Status Offline · 10-04-2015 10:41pm

Max Powers wrote: »

€40 for 5/6 bands in a festival setting, not bad in my book. really well organised last year with food, coffee stand, beer ticket system worked well. I often laugh when i hear people (not aimed at this poster but others in general) complain about paying for something when they often shell out 10 for a pack of smokes daily, often drop 40-50 in the bookies on a regular basis and would often spend multiple of 40 getting drunk out of their mind on a saturday night, still though 40 for some quality entertainment it is too much for em to bear.

Get off your high horse. Just because people don't see it as good value doesn't mean that they're either drunks or gamblers whom easily spend that much on smoking, drinking or what ever. Your attempt to degrade people who don't agree with your parochial point of view or paint them as being of a lower class by implying their spending habits is quiet frankly pathetic. You keep preaching that people should support local blindly regardless of quality but yet you don't provide a real reason why people should. I'm not throwing **** at this festival, it's not my cup of tea. I don't like any of the bands, so there's zero chance I'd go. I'd rather spend my hard earned money on something else. But according to you , I should still support it just because it's local. By that mentality, if the next Hitler comes from Waterford, I should throw a few bob his way towards genocide camps 'cause, yo know, he's local boy. Support your own.

11-04-2015 12:12am

Max Powers wrote: »

€40 for 5/6 bands in a festival setting, not bad in my book. really well organised last year with food, coffee stand, beer ticket system worked well. I often laugh when i hear people (not aimed at this poster but others in general) complain about paying for something when they often shell out 10 for a pack of smokes daily, often drop 40-50 in the bookies on a regular basis and would often spend multiple of 40 getting drunk out of their mind on a saturday night, still though 40 for some quality entertainment it is too much for em to bear.

Don't smoke, drink much or gamble cause Im stingy lol

I would happily pay 100 if i thought it was quality entertainment but this for me is not worth the 40. I hope that it does well and people go to it but its just not for me. I was hoping for something that took my fancy but you can't please everyone all the time.

O Riain · 11-04-2015 12:12am

Status Offline wrote: »

Get off your high horse. Just because people don't see it as good value doesn't mean that they're either drunks or gamblers whom easily spend that much on smoking, drinking or what ever. Your attempt to degrade people who don't agree with your parochial point of view or paint them as being of a lower class by implying their spending habits is quiet frankly pathetic. You keep preaching that people should support local blindly regardless of quality but yet you don't provide a real reason why people should. I'm not throwing **** at this festival, it's not my cup of tea. I don't like any of the bands, so there's zero chance I'd go. I'd rather spend my hard earned money on something else. But according to you , I should still support it just because it's local. By that mentality, if the next Hitler comes from Waterford, I should throw a few bob his way towards genocide camps 'cause, yo know, he's local boy. Support your own.

Come off it. All he was doing was responding to the fact that the person said that €40 was too much for what was on offer. He then said that some people (not necessarily that poster) would see nothing in spending €40 on fags, booze or whatever and he is dead bloody right. If its not your cup of tea, that's grand boy but there's no need for someone to go saying that €40 is a rip off and then go into a bookies to put €50 on a horse.

11-04-2015 12:22am

O Riain wrote: »

Come off it. All he was doing was responding to the fact that the person said that €40 was too much for what was on offer. He then said that some people (not necessarily that poster) would see nothing in spending €40 on fags, booze or whatever and he is dead bloody right. If its not your cup of tea, that's grand boy but there's no need for someone to go saying that €40 is a rip off and then go into a bookies to put €50 on a horse.

In fairness this is a message board so if people dont want to hear opinions they shouldn't come here

If people every say anything slightly negative about something local people jump down their throats on here.

skaface · 11-04-2015 12:40am

So people, who do you reckon we're getting on the Friday night??
Someone on here must know.. Anyone B-)

skaface · 11-04-2015 12:44am

Deleted User wrote: »

In fairness this is a message board so if people dont want to hear opinions they shouldn't come here

If people every say anything slightly negative about something local people jump down their throats on here.

This is Waterford... It's what we're good at.. We love a good moan :pac:

11-04-2015 12:47am

skaface wrote: »

This is Waterford... It's what we're good at.. We love a good moan :pac:

I'd have to wonder if people who are so touchy about criticism of the festival have any financial investment in it.

old gregg · 11-04-2015 2:16am

There's none on the lineup so far who'd do it for me but just like last year I'l invite friends down who are into the music to buy a ticket and crash in mine. You can support local initiatives to promote live music even if you'd not cross the road to hear it yourself. Jebus, my life would be so much easier if Waterford people supported live music just by inviting others regardless of whether it personally interested them. In my perfect world it would be non-stop banging techno and death metal and ambient and live experimental (like my beloved SAW in a way). My house will be full for Day Tripper, I'll not be there but have the beer cooled when they get back up the hill.

Status Offline · 11-04-2015 2:54am

old gregg wrote: »

There's none on the lineup so far who'd do it for me but just like last year I'l invite friends down who are into the music to buy a ticket and crash in mine. You can support local initiatives to promote live music even if you'd not cross the road to hear it yourself. Jebus, my life would be so much easier if Waterford people supported live music just by inviting others regardless of whether it personally interested them. In my perfect world it would be non-stop banging techno and death metal and ambient and live experimental (like my beloved SAW in a way). My house will be full for Day Tripper, I'll not be there but have the beer cooled when they get back up the hill.

I'm the same, and I'm from a musical background and have organized events before. My main quip is people supporting or trying to shame people into supporting something, because it's local. I think that the line up is pretty good.Nothing that'd draw me to it, but I can see the crowd it's aimed at. I'd never try and disparage anyone from trying to do something positive for them selves or their city. It's not an easy thing to do and it's mostly a thankless job.

There is a commonality on this board of posters shooting down people who question their rational and their constant bull**** parochialism. These are the type of idiots who wouldn't listen to people before the economic crash, and labaled them as begrudgers or had the out right idiocy to say people were talking the economy down.

Questioning things or being critical is good. We live in a competitive age and accepting banality just because it's local does no one any favors.If other cities can pull big acts into tiny venues, Waterford can to ( I know it can be complicated and this isn't a shot at the promoters of this festival. It's a young festival and there are people in Waterford with connections to bigger agencies who could facilitate dialogue) Waterford is a great city, full of talented people who just markets it's self wrong.I've been all around the world and Co. Waterford can compete with most of the beauty spots around, but it's never teh county thats promoted on an International scale.Waterford could easily draw big bands, but as long as people think any olde ****e will do and people should support it just because, well then, it's always going to fall behind...and no amount of good will or not wanting to come across as a begrudger is going to put money in peoples pockets.

11-04-2015 2:55am

old gregg wrote: »

There's none on the lineup so far who'd do it for me but just like last year I'l invite friends down who are into the music to buy a ticket and crash in mine. You can support local initiatives to promote live music even if you'd not cross the road to hear it yourself. Jebus, my life would be so much easier if Waterford people supported live music just by inviting others regardless of whether it personally interested them. In my perfect world it would be non-stop banging techno and death metal and ambient and live experimental (like my beloved SAW in a way). My house will be full for Day Tripper, I'll not be there but have the beer cooled when they get back up the hill.

Why would people want to make your life easier?

If there is enough people interested in any particular gig it will sell, I don't see the need to try and get people to go to a festival that I have no emotional investment in .

old gregg · 11-04-2015 11:09am

Deleted User wrote: »

Why would people want to make your life easier?

If there is enough people interested in any particular gig it will sell, I don't see the need to try and get people to go to a festival that I have no emotional investment in .

Oh dear *sighs*

shinzon · 11-04-2015 12:08pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Why would people want to make your life easier?

If there is enough people interested in any particular gig it will sell, I don't see the need to try and get people to go to a festival that I have no emotional investment in .

Why do people react like this when someone is trying to do something to get a bit of a buzz around the place I don't understand it tbh, you obviously don't give a toss about it but does it cost anything to say it to your mates or friends who might be interested in the acts

Nope which is why you should do it, honestly damned if you do damned if you don't

Shin

PTH2009 · 11-04-2015 8:00pm

i think the line up is decent

Deff going the Sunday night. intresting that the saturday night may clash with an All ireland hurling match if Waterford are involved

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