Nutter..was it you.

disco1 · 27-11-2018 10:59pm #1

SOME NUTTER ..this evening going down howth village in the dark...wet roads..at 70 kph..I was doing 50 and he flew past..almost missed a car Coming up the hill.

Was it you.

Your neither brave or skilled..just stupid..and must have no regard for your family.if you have one that it.

There was no way in hell to avoid an accident if one small thing happened.

Anyway each to their own.

silverharp · 27-11-2018 11:04pm

sorry!

sullzz · 27-11-2018 11:10pm

disco1 wrote: »

almost missed a car Coming up

You mean he hit a car ?
Hope he's ok.

Alexzont · 27-11-2018 11:11pm

Yeah, sorry about that. Was trying to KOM a downhill segment like Phil Gaimon.

fatbhoy · 27-11-2018 11:15pm

I am Spartacus!

disco1 · 27-11-2018 11:24pm

No he didn't hit car...but he will do soon.

king size mars bar · 27-11-2018 11:28pm

No I'm Spartacus

rodneyTrotter. · 27-11-2018 11:29pm

He must have been on a Raleigh Burner to be going that slow into the village . I’ve seen lads do that heading into the Abbey Tavern . Great thread in fairness

magicbastarder · 27-11-2018 11:30pm

don't think it was me, i was cycling up howth head at 70 this evening.

Wishbone Ash · 27-11-2018 11:33pm

He slowed to 70 because it was wet. Not worth the risk.

....and last year it was complaints about cyclist holding up other traffic in Howth!

07Lapierre · 27-11-2018 11:37pm

More importantly was he wearing a hi viz vest?

eagle eye · 27-11-2018 11:54pm

The response here is so childish.

Fact of the matter is that bad cyclists give everybody a bad name and lead to laws which are unfair to a responsible person.

at1withmyself · 27-11-2018 11:58pm

eagle eye wrote: »

The response here is so childish.

Fact of the matter is that bad cyclists give everybody a bad name and lead to laws which are unfair to a responsible person.

Could you please explain why you think that they are a bad cyclist?

magicbastarder · 27-11-2018 11:58pm

eagle eye wrote: »

Fact of the matter is that bad cyclists give everybody a bad name

*everybody*?
taxi drivers will be livid about being tarred with this brush.

Wildly Boaring · 27-11-2018 11:59pm

Was fully expecting that he was looking for a member called nutter

eagle eye · 27-11-2018 11:59pm

at1withmyself wrote:

Could you please explain why you think that they are a bad cyclist?

The op says he is neither brave nor skilled just stupid.
He was there so I'm taking his word. None of the rest of you were.

07Lapierre · 28-11-2018 12:01am

eagle eye wrote: »

The response here is so childish.

Fact of the matter is that bad cyclists give everybody a bad name and lead to laws which are unfair to a responsible person.

I'm just jealous of his descending skills!

eagle eye · 28-11-2018 12:01am

magicbastarder wrote:

*everybody*? taxi drivers will be livid about being tarred with this brush.

Again, childish.

Taxuser1 · 28-11-2018 12:02am

eagle eye wrote: »

The op says he is neither brave nor skilled just stupid.
He was there so I'm taking his word. None of the rest of you were.

But his nutter tag suggests more one with a mental incapacity but with a fleeting sense of chapeau thrown in.

Did anyone check Strava for actual speeds tonight?

letape · 28-11-2018 12:04am

He was trying out his new disc brakes, so he was grand.

Personally it doesn’t bother me when someone gets the better of me on a descent!

sy_flembeck · 28-11-2018 12:11am

king size mars bar wrote: »

No I'm Spartacus

I'm Spartacus and so's my wife!

07Lapierre · 28-11-2018 12:17am

Strong southwesterly winds forecast for tomorrow...75 might be doable?

Hurrache · 28-11-2018 1:37am

He could have hit one of those lethal fence posts someone warned us about some time back. He'd be dead then, apparently.

Pinch Flat · 28-11-2018 1:42am

Sorry it was me. Those Shimano brake pads on alibaba are ****e, BTW

FanadMan · 28-11-2018 2:05am

Most of the responses here are a perfect example why a lot of people think that cyclists and the people on this forum are dicks. So much condescension.
The op came on with a genuine complaint and was met with derrision and sniggers. Not really on.

Fighting Tao · 28-11-2018 7:35am

rodneyTrotter. wrote: »

He must have been on a Raleigh Burner to be going that slow into the village . I’ve seen lads do that heading into the Abbey Tavern . Great thread in fairness

I miss my 80’s Raleigh Burner and my Activator 2. This thread is bringing the memories flooding back.

ted1 · 28-11-2018 8:13am

eagle eye wrote: »

The response here is so childish.

Fact of the matter is that bad cyclists give everybody a bad name and lead to laws which are unfair to a responsible person.

Do bad country people give country people a bad name ?
Do bad white people give white people a bad name?
And so on

Wishbone Ash · 28-11-2018 8:16am

FanadMan wrote: »

...The op came on with a genuine complaint and was met with derrision and sniggers. Not really on.

What makes you think it's a genuine complaint? Perhaps the OP is a crap descender (like me) and just envious of another's confidence in the wet/dark?

The reason many of us made light of it is because these type of threads are just so pointless. If I see a motorist/motorcyclist driving in a manner which I don't approve, I don't feel the need to start a thread about it in the Motoring/Motorcycle Forum. Nor do I feel it gives anyone else a bad name.

Get In There · 28-11-2018 9:16am

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

The reason many of us made light of it is because these type of threads are just so pointless. If I see a motorist/motorcyclist driving in a manner which I don't approve, I don't feel the need to start a thread about it in the Motoring/Motorcycle Forum. Nor do I feel it gives anyone else a bad name.

THIS +1

Fighting Tao · 28-11-2018 9:34am

If I say +2 to WAs post would it be considered childish?

sham58107 · 28-11-2018 10:50am

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

What makes you think it's a genuine complaint? Perhaps the OP is a crap descender (like me) and just envious of another's confidence in the wet/dark?

The reason many of us made light of it is because these type of threads are just so pointless. If I see a motorist/motorcyclist driving in a manner which I don't approve, I don't feel the need to start a thread about it in the Motoring/Motorcycle Forum. Nor do I feel it gives anyone else a bad name.

Maybe not you but many do ! check the cycling forum.

Why guys wear black without lights beats me, same as dicks in cars without lights it is November !! evenings are dark and dismal, and if some unfortunate driver pedestrian had been involved in accident with this guy, who would be on keyboards now!!

I probably cycle 6-7000 km a year and drive maybe 60-70000, so I see both sides, a lot of fools on both sides, but recently in Dublin the cycle behaviour is shocking, guys in black no lights passing on inside when cars at lights are clearly indicating to go left, drivers have enough to do trying to negotiate traffic without this. Yes some drivers are very bad as well and the one eyed car on country roads really gets me, as do phone usage. Most modern cars tell you if you have bulb out and all have Bluetooth, BTW I came across a very special Ford last week , the only one factory forgot to fit with indicators.

07Lapierre · 28-11-2018 11:36am

sham58107 wrote: »

Maybe not you but many do ! check the cycling forum.

Why guys wear black without lights beats me, same as dicks in cars without lights it is November !! evenings are dark and dismal, and if some unfortunate driver pedestrian had been involved in accident with this guy, who would be on keyboards now!!

I probably cycle 6-7000 km a year and drive maybe 60-70000, so I see both sides, a lot of fools on both sides, but recently in Dublin the cycle behaviour is shocking, guys in black no lights passing on inside when cars at lights are clearly indicating to go left, drivers have enough to do trying to negotiate traffic without this. Yes some drivers are very bad as well and the one eyed car on country roads really gets me, as do phone usage. Most modern cars tell you if you have bulb out and all have Bluetooth, BTW I came across a very special Ford last week , the only one factory forgot to fit with indicators.

Do you feel better now that you got that off your chest? I agree with you...lots of numpty's out there on the roads (i met a few myself this morning). I use lights in the dark, i wear bright clothing and obey the ROTR. I can't change other people's Driving/cycling habits. All i can do is try and not be a numpty myself.

Budawanny · 28-11-2018 12:15pm

sham58107 wrote: »

Maybe not you but many do ! check the cycling forum.

Why guys wear black without lights beats me, same as dicks in cars without lights it is November !! evenings are dark and dismal, and if some unfortunate driver pedestrian had been involved in accident with this guy, who would be on keyboards now!!

I probably cycle 6-7000 km a year and drive maybe 60-70000, so I see both sides, a lot of fools on both sides, but recently in Dublin the cycle behaviour is shocking, guys in black no lights passing on inside when cars at lights are clearly indicating to go left, drivers have enough to do trying to negotiate traffic without this. Yes some drivers are very bad as well and the one eyed car on country roads really gets me, as do phone usage. Most modern cars tell you if you have bulb out and all have Bluetooth, BTW I came across a very special Ford last week , the only one factory forgot to fit with indicators.

You know that 99% percent of us drive too?
15 years no penalty points.
your driving gives you no moral authority here.
"drivers have enough to do trying to negotiate traffic".
NO!. Drivers ARE the traffic.

A Pointless thread. if everyone of us raised a thread on the motoring forum for everytime i saw a car breaking a red light The servers would run out of space.

Ray Bloody Purchase · 28-11-2018 12:21pm

I do have to admire taxi drivers making the comment about road tax. I'd love to know how they fare out when they complete their income tax return for the year. I'd say the biro could be fairly light when it comes to making a true and accurate statement of their annual earnings.

/totally off the point.

Tombo2001 · 28-11-2018 12:27pm

Is it just me, or is 50 also a bit fast to be going down the hill on a wet day?

07Lapierre · 28-11-2018 12:34pm

I don't think 50kph is that fast. Depends on the ability of the rider i suppose.

Tombo2001 · 28-11-2018 12:36pm

07Lapierre wrote: »

I don't think 50kph is that fast. Depends on the ability of the rider i suppose.

So the OP is saying

There was no way in hell to avoid an accident if one small thing happened.

Why does that apply at 70 and not at 50.

Going down hill on a wet day.

magicbastarder · 28-11-2018 12:42pm

FWIW, braking from 50 means scrubbing off half the kinetic energy that braking from 70 would involve.

Tombo2001 · 28-11-2018 12:43pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

FWIW, braking from 50 means scrubbing off half the kinetic energy that braking from 70 would involve.

what does that mean in plain English?

Macy0161 · 28-11-2018 12:43pm

Tombo2001 wrote: »

what does that mean in plain English?

More chance of avoiding an incident at 50 than 70! :pac:

Tombo2001 · 28-11-2018 12:45pm

Macy0161 wrote: »

More chance of avoiding an incident at 50 than 70! :pac:

Yes, obviously.

However

One small thing that causes an accident at 70k, will also more than likely cause an accident at 50.

Furthermore, come off the bike at 50 is no joke.

Plastik · 28-11-2018 12:46pm

I came off at 50. It was no joke.

07Lapierre · 28-11-2018 1:00pm

Tombo2001 wrote: »

So the OP is saying

There was no way in hell to avoid an accident if one small thing happened.

Why does that apply at 70 and not at 50.

Going down hill on a wet day.

I disagree. It depends on what the small thing is. it depends on the experience/skill of the rider. if were talking about an incident with another road user, their reactions may also influence the outcome.

there are a lot of factors involved..maybe travelling at 70 would avoid an incident that might happen if the rider travelled at 50?

magicbastarder · 28-11-2018 1:01pm

Tombo2001 wrote: »

One small thing that causes an accident at 70k, will also more than likely cause an accident at 50.

braking distance would be roughly halved, though.
that said, you don't want your braking surface to be your face, even if it is "only" 50km/h.

deandean · 28-11-2018 1:03pm

I feel bad now.
Fastest I ever got on that descent was only 66km/h.

Tombo2001 · 28-11-2018 1:04pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

braking distance would be roughly halved, though.
that said, you don't want your braking surface to be your face, even if it is "only" 50km/h.

OK.

I did not make the point that 50k is as dangerous as 70k.

I didn't make the point that 50k is nearly as dangerous as 70k.

I made the point that 50k is quite dangerous, in its own right, if 'one small thing goes wrong'.

That has nothing to do with braking time compared to 70k.

What happens if you hit a pothole at 50k.

What happens if a dog runs out in front of you at 50k.

Wider point being that OP is pitching him/ herself as moving nice and safely....while a nutter flies past them.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 28-11-2018 1:09pm

Tombo2001 wrote: »

One small thing that causes an accident at 70k, will also more than likely cause an accident at 50.

That's complete and utter crap.

thejaguar · 28-11-2018 1:11pm

Tombo2001 wrote: »

what does that mean in plain English?

This explains it really well I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3D7XYQExt0

Mercian Pro · 28-11-2018 1:13pm

at1withmyself wrote: »

Could you please explain why you think that they are a bad cyclist?

See post #1

Ferris · 28-11-2018 1:13pm

I cycle down that hill every morning at 50+kph but slow to 30-40 through the village, its what I feel is safe(r). I cycle an MTB with disks btw. 70kph imo is nuts through there considering the hazards, for instance you have diagonal parking spaces past the church which cars have to reverse uphill out of. Considering the poor visibility out of the average family car there is no way the driver can see a bike coming down the hill at 30kph, let alone faster. Lets not forget that the limit is 50kph and most cars are travelling well under that. Also there is a pedestrian crossing there, wouldn't fancy trying to stop from 70 for that.

Fighting Tao · 28-11-2018 1:19pm

Who had the lazer gun to measure the speed?

Nutter..was it you.

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