2020 Calender

malascoile · 14-11-2019 1:19pm #1

Hi all,

Does anyone know when there will be information for triathlons/duathlons for 2020? I have never done any tri events before but have been training over the winter hoping to make a start in the new year.

woody1 · 14-11-2019 1:48pm

triathlon ireland race calendar, although today its not showing up anything
runireland
popupraces
myrunresults

lots of websites with lists of races

google any / all of the above and see whats going on
your local triathlon clubs facebook page will probably have something on it, and they possibly run club races

duathlons will get going after christmas , triathlons from may on , with the exception of pool based ones which can be earlier

if your based in the west, the ireland west duathlon series is worth a look, check them out on facebook , but there are duathlons all over , phoenix park has a series as well, later in the year i think though

S_D · 17-11-2019 9:36pm

end of november

Cona · 24-12-2019 3:57pm

Still no sign of the Race Calendar being finalized, any idea on the hold up?

68 lost souls · 26-12-2019 12:38am

Cona wrote: »

Still no sign of the Race Calendar being finalized, any idea on the hold up?

The national series and champs was published weeks ago

Kurt_Godel. · 18-01-2020 12:21am

Hell of the West is open for entry from today (Standard NC)

tunney · 18-01-2020 9:06pm

Kurt_Godel. wrote: »

Hell of the West is open for entry from today (Standard NC)

First borne son the entry price?

Kurt_Godel. · 19-01-2020 10:37am

tunney wrote: »

First borne son the entry price?

€79, and its still open for entry. Think it was €90 in previous years which seems to have caused a bit of a protest. I've only done it the once but looking forward to it again. Bring on the breakers.

Kurt_Godel. · 29-01-2020 2:40pm

Kurt_Godel. wrote: »

€79, and its still open for entry. Think it was €90 in previous years which seems to have caused a bit of a protest. I've only done it the once but looking forward to it again. Bring on the breakers.

HOTW has been taking entries almost two weeks now and its still available to enter. Just a few years ago it used sell out in minutes, people would have several browsers open frantically trying to get in, people looking for transfers for months after... Its considered one of the premier races in Ireland, have people been turned off from the price rise a couple of years back, or some other reason?

(BTW this isn't a pop at LTC or the organising committee who put on a great show, I've entered anyway)

MalDoc · 29-01-2020 4:17pm

They use to release entries in tranches a few years ago no?

EC1000 · 29-01-2020 6:35pm

Kurt_Godel. wrote: »

HOTW has been taking entries almost two weeks now and its still available to enter. Just a few years ago it used sell out in minutes, people would have several browsers open frantically trying to get in, people looking for transfers for months after... Its considered one of the premier races in Ireland, have people been turned off from the price rise a couple of years back, or some other reason?

(BTW this isn't a pop at LTC or the organising committee who put on a great show, I've entered anyway)

I think the large increase in entry fee a few years ago left a very bitter taste for many. I haven't done the race since but it is entirely down to having young kids and not having time the last few years! Looking forward to going back soon.

peter kern · 30-01-2020 10:14am

EC1000 wrote: »

I think the large increase in entry fee a few years ago left a very bitter taste for many. I haven't done the race since but it is entirely down to having young kids and not having time the last few years! Looking forward to going back soon.

I guess it's still the most expensive oly race in Ireland.

At the same time their other race joey Hanon which is most likely the best value oly distance race in Ireland hasn't sold out either.
So I guess people just not as keen to enter races in January and as somebody pointed out the race had usually 2 entry dates.
What's also to note is with iron-man Cork 2 weeks earlier that has an impact and overall there is an abundance of races in the south West

Kurt_Godel. · 31-01-2020 12:07pm

Racing 796 Carlow Sprint is open now for entries- again this is a good race which usually sells out quickly, even at the hefty €60 entry fee (that's the Market I guess)

Fiftyplus · 31-01-2020 3:40pm

I'd love to do it again - best Olympic race in my book. However, comes a week too late for me (work), did it a few times when it was at the end of June.

Kurt_Godel. · 03-04-2020 8:30pm

All Lough Cutra races are cancelled- including the NC Aquathon and Aquabike. I guess its to be expected, pity as they always put on a slick operation. Hopefully they will be back for 2021.

Not sure where that leaves the NC's for those events- hopefully they might be held at a later race in the season. Gotta stay hopeful!

Kurt_Godel. · 06-04-2020 1:16pm

Everything up to June 30th postponed

https://www.triathlonireland.com/News/2020/06-04-2020-Update-on-Covid-19-Triathlon.html

MisterJinx · 06-04-2020 1:29pm

saw that. Looks from the email sent that they are trying to re-arrange events for later in the year and have been able to schedule some of them in (although a moving feast so we'll see when the time comes)

tunney · 06-04-2020 4:00pm

There won't be an event this year.

Once we get a gradual let up everyone still has to get this virus and that will need to be done in a controlled fashion, and sporting events won't be part of it.

Kurt_Godel. · 09-04-2020 9:45pm

tunney wrote: »

There won't be an event this year.

Once we get a gradual let up everyone still has to get this virus and that will need to be done in a controlled fashion, and sporting events won't be part of it.

Why wouldn't sporting events be part of controlled infection? The healthiest portion of the population going about their business as normal would be the best way to organise transmission rates. Numbers might be limited, but I'd expect several races across the island to go ahead after 30th June. Worth training towards that anyway.

StaggerLee · 09-04-2020 11:09pm

Kurt_Godel. wrote: »

Why wouldn't sporting events be part of controlled infection? The healthiest portion of the population going about their business as normal would be the best way to organise transmission rates. Numbers might be limited, but I'd expect several races across the island to go ahead after 30th June. Worth training towards that anyway.

I think limiting entries is the only way a race can happen. But with limited numbers, the club / organiser likely unable to make a profit or break even. I can’t see races happening this season.

peter kern · 10-04-2020 11:33am

StaggerLee wrote: »

I think limiting entries is the only way a race can happen. But with limited numbers, the club / organiser likely unable to make a profit or break even. I can’t see races happening this season.

Well you can reduce costs no shirt swags liKe
medals and then you can male a small profit wirh smaller numbers.
And for the races that will run this year I guess there will get goodwill for next year

Harrdman has run for 9 years now and I do t think the full had ever more than 150 people more like 110 people and in guess most peope who have done te race would see him to get 200 .

It's glass had full vs glass half empty you could have a female race and then a male race later
so maybe a oly has to become a sprint to get that done but there is ways

Or you do races where there is first the swim in waves then a rest and then the bike and run
or more Aquathons which are more flexible to run you could have 10 waves of 500 people and each wave registers St a different time an open wave and age group waves etc etc

Kurt_Godel. · 10-04-2020 11:50am

Reckon Aquathlons would be the way to go alright, either staggered or limited numbers.

Bike racking would be a difficult thing to manage for full Tri's, if social distancing continues to be a thing. And good luck enforcing a 2m gap during the bike race itself :P

peter kern · 10-04-2020 10:47pm

Kurt_Godel. wrote: »

Reckon Aquathlons would be the way to go alright, either staggered or limited numbers.

Bike racking would be a difficult thing to manage for full Tri's, if social distancing continues to be a thing. And good luck enforcing a 2m gap during the bike race itself :P

Well I would say the guys from the castle series manage flowing transitions very well so it can be done

And who says you could not start the race with the bike withn 20 sec gaps and then swim and run that would work for a race like 2 provinces

Kurt_Godel. · 10-04-2020 11:53pm

peter kern wrote: »

Well I would say the guys from the castle series manage flowing transitions very well so it can be done

And who says you could not start the race with the bike withn 20 sec gaps and then swim and run that would work for a race like 2 provinces

Actually if anything comes from this, using the Castle series transitions as a template would be a positive. They are head and shoulders above TI transition guidelines, should be something to aim for.

EC1000 · 11-04-2020 8:55pm

Kurt_Godel. wrote: »

Actually if anything comes from this, using the Castle series transitions as a template would be a positive. They are head and shoulders above TI transition guidelines, should be something to aim for.

What is different and how does it work? Never been at one!

Kurt_Godel. · 12-04-2020 1:18pm

EC1000 wrote: »

What is different and how does it work? Never been at one!

The main benefit is allowing those finished into trans to collect their bikes, while at the same time allowing slower/later waves in from their bike leg, and out into their run. Marshalls handle all this very well. It might help that swimIN/bikeOUT are seperate to bikeIN, and bikeIN is also where bikes are checked/exited.

Doesn't seem like anything revolutionary but it works very well in practice.

darragh_k · 16-04-2020 2:25pm

Has anyone gotten a refund from Castle Triathlon Lough Cutra triathlon for this year?

All other races I entered gave refunds.

Edit: they are not giving refunds.

tunney · 16-04-2020 2:28pm

darragh_k wrote: »

Has anyone gotten a refund from Castle Triathlon Lough Cutra triathlon for this year?

All other races I entered gave refunds.

I think it's really bad form they are refusing to give refunds and instead are allowing the athletes to take the financial hit for them.

This is the same crowd who introduced a five euro fee for spectators at the event a few years ago!!

The same crowd who have races in England and France where they can make money!!

People should demand refunds.

Did they say that they were not going to give refunds?

MisterJinx · 16-04-2020 2:37pm

Yes, option to transfer to another race this year or to the 2021 race but no refunds at all. Waved the admin fee for next year which was nice.....

Kurt_Godel. · 16-04-2020 2:45pm

darragh_k wrote: »

Has anyone gotten a refund from Castle Triathlon Lough Cutra triathlon for this year?
...
People should demand refunds.

I don't think they are offering refunds. To give a different viewpoint, I don't think people should demand refunds. These are exceptional times, they will have had significant capital costs already, and if deferring to next year helps ensure there will be a next year, I'm happy to defer.

Appreciate not everyone will feel the same (and plenty will also have lost jobs etc and could do with the refund), but a lot of race organisers (and a lot of tri clubs) will have a huge financial hit in 2020, through no fault of their own. Those that afford to do so could help them survive by deferring fees where possible.

darragh_k · 16-04-2020 4:47pm

People should have the option to defer. I've no issue with that of course.

I will re enter every race which has given refunds.

It's not for them to decide, it's a crap situation for everyone but it's not my business problem.

Kurt_Godel. wrote: »

I don't think they are offering refunds. To give a different viewpoint, I don't think people should demand refunds. These are exceptional times, they will have had significant capital costs already, and if deferring to next year helps ensure there will be a next year, I'm happy to defer.

Appreciate not everyone will feel the same (and plenty will also have lost jobs etc and could do with the refund), but a lot of race organisers (and a lot of tri clubs) will have a huge financial hit in 2020, through no fault of their own. Those that afford to do so could help them survive by deferring fees where possible.

peter kern · 16-04-2020 7:49pm

darragh_k wrote: »

People should have the option to defer. I've no issue with that of course.

I will re enter every race which has given refunds.

It's not for them to decide, it's a crap situation for everyone but it's not my business problem.

But it likely will be an issue for you as an triathlete when many of those event companies go down and there will be less racess.
There is obviously some races that are very profitable but by and large as the say not that many race organicers drive a Porsche and even the very big races like challenge Roth have issues . And they kept a 90 euro admin fee and asked for donations.

griffin100 · 16-04-2020 9:01pm

peter kern wrote: »

But it likely will be an issue for you as an triathlete when many of those event companies go down and there will be less racess.
There is obviously some races that are very profitable but by and large as the say not that many race organicers drive a Porsche and even the very big races like challenge Roth have issues . And they kept a 90 euro admin fee and asked for donations.

How many tri’s in Ireland are now run by event companies or are the vast majority still club run? I’d be worried what the cancellations may have done to some club finances and what it might mean for some clubs viability.

peter kern · 17-04-2020 11:54am

griffin100 wrote: »

How many tri’s in Ireland are now run by event companies or are the vast majority still club run? I’d be worried what the cancellations may have done to some club finances and what it might mean for some clubs viability.[/quote

Its not that many and much .less than in the uk but it obviously makes a huge difference if a race is run by volunteers or paid employees for admin etc and of course there is few clubs who rightly pay their race director at least some morney

I can't see how clubs can afford to return the full money or better said why they should have to return the full money ,as they had expenses and work time and it's not fair on them to return the full money

darragh_k · 17-04-2020 1:09pm

Fine I give up. Some races return fees others don't.

I don't have information on finances .

peter kern wrote: »

griffin100 wrote: »

How many tri’s in Ireland are now run by event companies or are the vast majority still club run? I’d be worried what the cancellations may have done to some club finances and what it might mean for some clubs viability.[/quote

Its not that many and much .less than in the uk but it obviously makes a huge difference if a race is run by volunteers or paid employees for admin etc and of course there is few clubs who rightly pay their race director at least some morney

I can't see how clubs can afford to return the full money or better said why they should have to return the full money ,as they had expenses and work time and it's not fair on them to return the full money

Shell to Run · 17-04-2020 4:36pm

Speaking of returning fees, I wonder what the position is with 2020 paid membership for Triathlon Ireland? Will this be refunded or allocated to 2021 fees? In fact this may impact all clubs such as cycling, athletic clubs etc.

griffin100 · 17-04-2020 5:20pm

Shell to Run wrote: »

Speaking of returning fees, I wonder what the position is with 2020 paid membership for Triathlon Ireland? Will this be refunded or allocated to 2021 fees? In fact this may impact all clubs such as cycling, athletic clubs etc.

Swim Ireland cancelled the entire season a few weeks ago and aren’t refunding any membership fees or allowing credit for next year.

Kurt_Godel. · 18-04-2020 10:12am

TI won't be refunding 2020 member fees, nor crediting into 2021. I'd doubt if any clubs are refunding their membership fees either. These are exceptional times and IMO people should accept it if they want any sort of structure up and running in 2021.

To be honest though this is the least of our problems; its a rare swimming pool that makes money in good times, and I can see quite a few pools remaining closed after this financial hit.

peter kern · 19-04-2020 1:44pm

darragh_k wrote: »

Fine I give up. Some races return fees others don't.

I don't have information on finances .

peter kern wrote: »

You are asking a good question

*******

There is no easy answer .

mossym · 20-04-2020 9:26am

mod note

Peter, i've edited your post. no need for the insults. that's more than welcome on the webtsite you mentioned too. have at it over there to your hearts content.

peter kern · 20-04-2020 11:24am

mossym wrote: »

mod note

Peter, i've edited your post. no need for the insults. that's more than welcome on the webtsite you mentioned too. have at it over there to your hearts content.

Fair enough ,my bad
so let me rephrase it
to come to a better conclusion it would help to consider more aspects than just ones own initial emotions.

mossym · 20-04-2020 2:38pm

peter kern wrote: »

to come to a better conclusion it would help to consider more aspects than just ones own initial emotions.

should be the norm for everyone in any social interaction, especially social media/online , but something we're all guilty of missing

Kurt_Godel. · 28-04-2020 11:43am

Italy restarting swim training from 4th May

PHASE 2A: starting from 4th May for athletes recognized as being of national interest in view of their participation in the Olympic Games or national and international events
PHASE 2B: In a SUCCESSIVE STEP (presumably from 18th May), facilities will be reopened for users practicing basic sports activities, even with the restrictions and limitations.

This looks promising and hopefully lays a successful pathway to Ireland reopening pools. And if pools can open, surely the OW could open before them?

Kurt_Godel. · 01-05-2020 11:55am

Not looking good for triathlon events this summer. Swim Ireland have cancelled OW events until August- we operate under a different NGB but all under the same Sports Ireland umbrella.

Swim Ireland statement:

Cancellation of Open Water Swimming Events

May 01, 2020

Update – 1st May 2020

The following update provides Swim Ireland clubs further direction and guidance in relation to the Open Water Season and training considering guidelines from the Irish and UK Governments regarding Covid-19.

Open Water Season

Swim Ireland announces today that all open water races under its jurisdiction originally scheduled to take place between now and the end of July will no longer take place. This decision has not been taken lightly and due consideration has been given to advices from the Irish and UK governments and consultations with the open water community. The situation will be further reviewed for August/September, should restrictions ease, however, events that might be given the go-ahead will only be where they can be delivered in line with all Government and public health advices and diktats and where this might be possible Swim Ireland in consultation with our open water community will issue specific guidance in this regard.

We have written to the HSE seeking advices in relation to the impact of COVID 19 in relation to open water specifically and we are currently considering these advices. At this juncture club training is to remain ceased in line with existing public health measures.

If clubs have queries or concerns, please contact your Club Support Officer who will be able to provide you with assistance.

We continue to monitor the situation very carefully and will issue further advice to our clubs and members as this become available. Please continue to regularly check the Swim Ireland website for further updates and contact Swim Ireland if you have any urgent questions or concerns.

griffin100 · 01-05-2020 8:55pm

Based on the Government's road map document and the 5 phases, I'd be more confident that we may get back to some racing in August. All depends on how things progress and infection rates not increasing. As to whether clubs will take the risks and spend money organising races is another thing as there are no absolutes here.

pc11 · 05-05-2020 8:38am

Kurt_Godel. wrote: »

Not looking good for triathlon events this summer. Swim Ireland have cancelled OW events until August- we operate under a different NGB but all under the same Sports Ireland umbrella.

Swim Ireland statement:

As a frontline worker I'm obviously very aware of COVID and how serious it can be, but I have to say I'd be fairly relaxed about letting OW swim events happen at some stage. Transmission risk outdoors is very low, especially in summer. As long as the event is well run, no crowded clubhouse afterwards, more starting waves, strict entry limits and a few other conditions, I'd be happy enough really.

This is particularly if other public places are open where the risk is higher like cafes or most shops.

As for triathlons, this is a little more complex of course. But I still think it may be feasible with strict conditions.

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