Farm workers wages!

Feckthis · 28-12-2014 10:33pm #1

Does anyone know what are farm workers usually paid per hour?

sh1tstirrer · 28-12-2014 11:05pm

I was getting €10/hour a few years back. The farm relief pay min wage an zero travel allowance.

28-12-2014 11:10pm

i was going to say 8 to 10 an hour but it would all depend on experience/ level of skill, your flexibility , who you are working for,some lads might pay a slight bit more,

Miname · 29-12-2014 12:01am

Would many lads work for 8 an hour now?

Mad4simmental · 29-12-2014 12:24am

Miname wrote: »

Would many lads work for 8 an hour now?

Not a hope. You'd get more standing in the line.

whelan2 · 29-12-2014 10:53am

lad that helps me out gets 10 euro an hour, he knows nothing about farming but does a good bit of heavy work like forking out troughs, taking tyres off pit, dont really get him that often

Feckthis · 29-12-2014 11:03am

whelan2 wrote: »

lad that helps me out gets 10 euro an hour, he knows nothing about farming but does a good bit of heavy work like forking out troughs, taking tyres off pit, dont really get him that often

What would you pay someone if you took them on full-time who has experience with dairy cows and machinery?

frazzledhome · 29-12-2014 11:22am

Feckthis wrote: »

What would you pay someone if you took them on full-time who has experience with dairy cows and machinery?

€100/day 6.30 to 6pmp

Deepsouthwest · 29-12-2014 11:45am

frazzledhome wrote: »

€100/day 6.30 to 6pmp

A full time man with experience of cows and machinery for €8/hr? I don't think so Tim! That's €320 for a 40 hr wk. There's no way I could get someone at that rate, anyone here gets €10/hr, that's from students up to experienced lads, (normally give the experienced more hrs) also a meal in the middle of the day, but thinking of phasing that out.

Greengrass1 · 29-12-2014 11:59am

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

A full time man with experience of cows and machinery for €8/hr? I don't think so Tim! That's €320 for a 40 hr wk. There's no way I could get someone at that rate, anyone here gets €10/hr, that's from students up to experienced lads, (normally give the experienced more hrs) also a meal in the middle of the day, but thinking of phasing that out.

Any where I worked I always got 10/hr.
Except for my first placement where I was only getting something like 200e for 4 10hr days

Deepsouthwest · 29-12-2014 12:12pm

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Jeez wish I got you for my first placement.10e/hr . I would have been minted with the he's I worked

A student here gets €122 for a 35 hr wk(that's the set rate) and then €10/hr for every hr after that. Last yrs student worked crazy hrs, and took part of his payment in calved heifers that I let him pick, a really great lad.

sh1tstirrer · 29-12-2014 12:54pm

frazzledhome wrote: »

€100/day 6.30 to 6pmp

Does that include meals?

frazzledhome · 29-12-2014 2:39pm

sh1tstirrer wrote: »

Does that include meals?

Absolutely not.
1hr for breakfast and 1 hr for lunch

Dawggone · 29-12-2014 2:46pm

frazzledhome wrote: »

€100/day 6.30 to 6pmp

Gross or net??

frazzledhome · 29-12-2014 3:04pm

Dawggone wrote: »

Gross or net??

Netto

lakill Farm · 29-12-2014 3:51pm

when I was in 5th year in secondary I worked with a mixed suckler/ sheep farmer for £2 an hour that was maybe 1998 or so. Had feck all experience and I was shown lots. And more so I had something to do. had my weekend job also so worked with farmer 5 days till 3pm on a Friday and off to my weekend for Friday evening and Saturday. I did what ever job was given. cattle, sheep, tractor work, jeep work, powerwashing, lawns, painting, maintenance, silage etc

I spent 5 summers with that farmer, the last one half as I went at silage for the busy pit season. fair enough I got more money following years. I missed 2 days in 5 summers, a few easter breaks and xmass breaks. down to a shoulder dislocation while loading a wild cull ewes.

So surely you can get a younger student to help for €5/€8 an hour depending on experience and length of hours per day?

whelan2 · 29-12-2014 3:59pm

lakill Farm wrote: »

when I was in 5th year in secondary I worked with a mixed suckler/ sheep farmer for £2 an hour that was maybe 1998 or so. Had feck all experience and I was shown lots. And more so I had something to do. had my weekend job also so worked with farmer 5 days till 3pm on a Friday and off to my weekend for Friday evening and Saturday. I did what ever job was given. cattle, sheep, tractor work, jeep work, powerwashing, lawns, painting, maintenance, silage etc

I spent 5 summers with that farmer, the last one half as I went at silage for the busy pit season. fair enough I got more money following years. I missed 2 days in 5 summers, a few easter breaks and xmass breaks. down to a shoulder dislocation while loading a wild cull ewes.

So surely you can get a younger student to help for €5/€8 an hour depending on experience and length of hours per day?

think alot of young people dont want to do the work now adays

mahoney_j · 29-12-2014 4:03pm

frazzledhome wrote: »

€100/day 6.30 to 6pmp

Jaysus I won't be sending u my cv so!!!

mahoney_j · 29-12-2014 4:05pm

Dawggone wrote: »

Gross or net??

Cash or through the books

frazzledhome · 29-12-2014 5:44pm

mahoney_j wrote: »

Cash or through the books

Through books

frazzledhome · 29-12-2014 5:45pm

mahoney_j wrote: »

Jaysus I won't be sending u my cv so!!!

Tell me where a guy will get €700 a week elsewhere

I wouldn't be taking the colour of it

Greengrass1 · 29-12-2014 6:22pm

10/hr what's wrong with that lads? What other job would ye get that with out being qualified?

simx · 29-12-2014 6:29pm

Greengrass1 wrote: »

10/hr what's wrong with that lads? What other job would ye get that with out being qualified?

id consider 10/hr to be quite acceptable, id be happy to work for it anyway

mahoney_j · 29-12-2014 6:29pm

frazzledhome wrote: »

Tell me where a guy will get €700 a week elsewhere

I wouldn't be taking the colour of it

I worked off farm for years and can appreciate how hard and physically demanding working on a dairy farm can be .long hours and proper work on a farm has to be worth more than min wage,fair enough if its only for someone used sporadically for jobs like foddering ,cleaning sheds,powerwashing sheds etc but a full time guy on site for 12 hours a day deserves more unless he's a total dimwit

Cran · 29-12-2014 6:32pm

11 euros an hour here, but not full time he's guaranteed paid 20 hours a week but flexible to work more or less depending on week and averages out over time and fixed up every 1/4 for anything additional.

Greengrass1 · 29-12-2014 6:33pm

mahoney_j wrote: »

I worked off farm for years and can appreciate how hard and physically demanding working on a dairy farm can be .long hours and proper work on a farm has to be worth more than min wage,fair enough if its only for someone used sporadically for jobs like foddering ,cleaning sheds,powerwashing sheds etc but a full time guy on site for 12 hours a day deserves more unless he's a total dimwit

What do you pay lads?
I worked for 2 differemt lads before I came hom . 10/hr and got fed to . Milking moving stock slurry spreading calve reading cleaning cubicles was general run of things

J DEERE · 29-12-2014 6:38pm

Was getting 12 an hour and 18 for Sunday's before leaving in 2012. 200 cows, milking all year round. Was given breakfast and tea

Mulumpy · 29-12-2014 6:42pm

My milker gets 40 per milking and 12 euro per hour for roughly 5 to 6 extra hrs a week. I've another casual guy that does my power washing and odd jobs he gets 10 an hour. Neither are fed.

Base price · 29-12-2014 6:46pm

I thought that Agricultural workers wages were covered by National Wage Agreements. From memory and I stand corrected - a worker with experience minimum rate per hour is €9.40. It may have changed over the years but the rates used to be posted on the website of the Labour Relations Commission.

mahoney_j · 29-12-2014 6:53pm

Greengrass1 wrote: »

What do you pay lads?
I worked for 2 differemt lads before I came hom . 10/hr and got fed to . Milking moving stock slurry spreading calve reading cleaning cubicles was general run of things

No workers bar me and whatever the da can do,money spent so I don't need staff outside contractors and relief milkers also don't have enough scale to justify.never or rarely in yard after 6 o clock.milker gets 40 per milking and worth every penny ,odd time I do need someone its 12 euro an hour and he's feed and watered.

Milked out · 29-12-2014 7:00pm

I think frazz posted above that he gives 100/day net, so that's what he takes home so it costs frazz a good bit more by the time taxes are paid. The minimum wage is a gross figure so he is getting a fair bit above that with 2 hours of breaks

whelan2 · 29-12-2014 7:23pm

J DEERE wrote: »

Was getting 12 an hour and 18 for Sunday's before leaving in 2012. 200 cows, milking all year round. Was given breakfast and tea

was that for milking? give 40 euro per milking here

White Clover · 29-12-2014 7:26pm

sh1tstirrer wrote: »

I was getting €10/hour a few years back. The farm relief pay min wage an zero travel allowance.

Fairly sure FRS pay well over minimum wage. Over 11 down south

whelan2 · 29-12-2014 7:28pm

White Clover wrote: »

Fairly sure FRS pay well over minimum wage. Over 11 down south

do you still have to wait a month to be paid?

White Clover · 29-12-2014 7:34pm

whelan2 wrote: »

do you still have to wait a month to be paid?

Paid 15th of following month. Always on time to be fair. If 15th is a sat or sun its in account Friday midnight.

conor t · 29-12-2014 8:35pm

frazzledhome wrote: »

Tell me where a guy will get €700 a week elsewhere

I wouldn't be taking the colour of it

Is that for a 65 hour week?

frazzledhome · 29-12-2014 8:40pm

mahoney_j wrote: »

I worked off farm for years and can appreciate how hard and physically demanding working on a dairy farm can be .long hours and proper work on a farm has to be worth more than min wage,fair enough if its only for someone used sporadically for jobs like foddering ,cleaning sheds,powerwashing sheds etc but a full time guy on site for 12 hours a day deserves more unless he's a total dimwit

For a 6 day week netting 100 per day with prsi paye and USC its costing €146 per day That's € 876 per week €45k per yr I'm phucked if any farm worker is worth more than this

mahoney_j · 29-12-2014 9:01pm

frazzledhome wrote: »

For a 6 day week netting 100 per day with prsi paye and USC its costing €146 per day That's € 876 per week €45k per yr I'm phucked if any farm worker is worth more than this

100 nett is good bucks in fairness and ur right no farm worker is worth more than that ,thought it was gross.any jobs going!!

frazzledhome · 29-12-2014 9:13pm

mahoney_j wrote: »

100 nett is good bucks in fairness and ur right no farm worker is worth more than that ,thought it was gross.any jobs going!!

I'd say you'd be gone before emergency tax would be paid

frazzledhome · 29-12-2014 9:18pm

conor t wrote: »

Is that for a 65 hour week?

Costs €14.58 an hour. On that a lad couldn't get enough hrs

3 the square · 29-12-2014 10:11pm

Have a lad that milks for me true frs top man in fairness does double milkings most summer says he take home 1000 a week he says he snowed under with milking this time of d year he does the fenching with frs with his own mf 399 he get 30 euro a hour for the tractor says it wouldnt burn a tank of diesel in d week he said he far better off with frs than a farmer full time hard to blame him he has his own farm as well..

sh1tstirrer · 29-12-2014 11:30pm

frazzledhome wrote: »

Absolutely not.
1hr for breakfast and 1 hr for lunch

2 hours for both they must be traveling a fair distance for the grub. I got €10/hour which included breakfast dinner and supper I took out time for eating half an hour for dinner and 20 minutes each for breakfast and supper. The man I worked for always said if you don't feed a worker properly he won't be able to work.

frazzledhome · 29-12-2014 11:55pm

sh1tstirrer wrote: »

2 hours for both they must be traveling a fair distance for the grub. I got €10/hour which included breakfast dinner and supper I took out time for eating half an hour for dinner and 20 minutes each for breakfast and supper. The man I worked for always said if you don't feed a worker properly he won't be able to work.

No grub here. In any other job people bring their own grub what's so different with farms?

I deal with a guy who blows about how he always feeds workers. Was there one day a dinner time and a sparrow would've been hungry after what he called dinner

arctictree · 29-12-2014 11:57pm

I pay a young lad 50 Euro for a half days work every now and then.

C0N0R · 30-12-2014 12:58am

frazzledhome wrote: »

For a 6 day week netting 100 per day with prsi paye and USC its costing €146 per day That's € 876 per week €45k per yr I'm phucked if any farm worker is worth more than this

Can't argue with that. For casual work I can't see any issues with €10 an hour before tax, if there is responsibility involved then up she goes.

J DEERE · 30-12-2014 1:08am

whelan2 wrote: »

was that for milking? give 40 euro per milking here

No that was for full days. Milking normally took three hours from start to finish. 24 units, 2 men auto cluster removers etc. how long does it take to do your milking?

micky mouse · 30-12-2014 1:19am

whelan2 wrote: »

think alot of young people dont want to do the work now adays

very,very true post that

whelan2 · 30-12-2014 7:13am

J DEERE wrote: »

No that was for full days. Milking normally took three hours from start to finish. 24 units, 2 men auto cluster removers etc. how long does it take to do your milking?

about 1.5 hours now or 2.5 hours in summer, they still get the 40 euro/milking regardless of how many cows

Blackgrass · 30-12-2014 7:51am

frazzledhome wrote: »

For a 6 day week netting 100 per day with prsi paye and USC its costing €146 per day That's € 876 per week €45k per yr I'm phucked if any farm worker is worth more than this

You'd nearly make us feel sorry for you!

Are you going to say they aren't worth it, your self/brother iirc? have been round plenty long enough to know what you want in your staff otherwise you would only be paying 50% of that. The luxury of having someone you don't need to hold their hand/keep checking on or answer the phone to every hour is worth alot! And for arguments sake if you had to suddenly drop everything for a week the cows will be milked and the farm won't burn to the ground without need for prior planning.

Often the case accommodation is provided which can muddy waters in a room rented in a house vs a full house for a family of 4 eg.

J DEERE · 30-12-2014 2:05pm

whelan2 wrote: »

think alot of young people dont want to do the work now adays

I wouldn't blame them. A lot of farmers aren't easy to work with and aren't overly happy to pay either

J DEERE · 30-12-2014 2:09pm

frazzledhome wrote: »

For a 6 day week netting 100 per day with prsi paye and USC its costing €146 per day That's € 876 per week €45k per yr I'm phucked if any farm worker is worth more than this

Typical working week on busy dairy farm would be 60hrs a week. That works out at 10/hour net with no overtime being paid. Depending on skills and ability if you can't afford to pay that then you can't afford a full time worker

Farm workers wages!

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