When's calving starting 2020

50HX · 11-01-2020 7:38pm

RD10 wrote: »

Thats reassuring to know. Would'nt have used a whole lot of charlaois in the past, but like i said there seems to be good reviews on fiston.
Would have last used charloais here about 7 or 8 years ago. 'Easy calving' and jesus every one of one them bar two came with a fairly big pull.
Thankfully a set of twins from a cow that i knew was very heavy looking.
Thats an interesting one on fiston and twins.
Have a cow here in calf to him, quite heavy looking i've noticed for about 2 or 3 weeks now and not due for another month. i've been wondering to myself whether she'll have twins or not. Could well be.

Might be worth restrictiing her feed and give here a shot of oats

The older ai men use to say there is no such thing as an easy calving CH.....fsz is as easy as you'll get i think

Keepgrowing · 12-01-2020 8:09am

Nothing due to calve here till 7/2. Our heifers were synched, they are showing nicely. It will be some busy few days when that dam bursts but it’ll be quick.

Autumn calves all weaned this week so need to get that house cleaned and washed for spring.

All dosing and vaccines up to date just getting fencing done waiting for the craic to start

Reggie. · 12-01-2020 5:09pm

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Nothing due to calve here till 7/2. Our heifers were synched, they are showing nicely. It will be some busy few days when that dam bursts but it’ll be quick.

Autumn calves all weaned this week so need to get that house cleaned and washed for spring.

All dosing and vaccines up to date just getting fencing done waiting for the craic to start

Did ya stay with the HE as usual or did ya change

Lady Haywire · 12-01-2020 6:22pm

Arrived this afternoon to.a calf so guess we've started :pac:

feartuath · 12-01-2020 9:39pm

1st calf this evening, all good heifer calf up and sucking within an hour.

Keepgrowing · 12-01-2020 11:30pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Did ya stay with the HE as usual or did ya change

Used very little he this year. Going fully dairy breeding from now on.

Reggie. · 13-01-2020 12:07am

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Used very little he this year. Going fully dairy breeding from now on.

Will that cause an issue with moving on calves do you think?

Keepgrowing · 13-01-2020 9:22am

Reggie. wrote: »

Will that cause an issue with moving on calves do you think?

No all calves bought by one buyer so it’s not a concern. Good well fed calves will always move

Reggie. · 13-01-2020 9:36am

Keepgrowing wrote: »

No all calves bought by one buyer so it’s not a concern. Good well fed calves will always move

This is true

ted_182 · 13-01-2020 10:02am

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Arrived this afternoon to.a calf so guess we've started :pac:

Top tip, keep different sets of working gear for work and home, just for your own herds bio security.

whelan2 · 15-01-2020 7:03pm

2 calves born today. All good.

Madisonmenece · 15-01-2020 9:35pm

8 calved here, 8 bulls and only 1 heifer (1 set of twin bulls), percentages not going our way for replacements.

GrasstoMilk · 15-01-2020 9:37pm

whelan2 wrote: »

2 calves born today. All good.

When did you start breeding whelan? 6 on the straw here since sunday. Hopefully theyllnhold out till next week

whelan2 · 15-01-2020 10:12pm

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

When did you start breeding whelan? 6 on the straw here since sunday. Hopefully theyllnhold out till next week

Angus bull went with heifers on 9th of April. Another calf born there when I came home from football. First cow. They only started being served on 26th April. I only took the cow out today . Must look up when she was served. 3rd of may service date fr4513

valtra2 · 15-01-2020 11:22pm

20% calfed here started newyears. One fatality a calf missing bit of her gut and had to be put down. Out of 4 heifers calfed with lm2014 2 were jacked and 2 dropped little rabbits.

sonnybill · 16-01-2020 1:20am

Nothing until late February

orm0nd · 16-01-2020 11:35am

anybody else getting calves dropped 12 to 18 days early ? calves small but very hardy , up and motoring straight away,

cows dont seem to spring down until 2 to 3 days after calving

cows were getting oats/soya mix for a couple of weeks cos they were on very middling silage

not complaining .. a bit early i know but IMO better than 1st May (we've a couple of late april calvers, but most likely these will carry 3 weeks over

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tanko · 16-01-2020 12:01pm

valtra2 wrote: »

20% calfed here started newyears. One fatality a calf missing bit of her gut and had to be put down. Out of 4 heifers calfed with lm2014 2 were jacked and 2 dropped little rabbits.

Were the two that had to be jacked bulls and the two small ones heifers?

squinn2912 · 16-01-2020 9:36pm

orm0nd wrote: »

anybody else getting calves dropped 12 to 18 days early ? calves small but very hardy , up and motoring straight away,

cows dont seem to spring down until 2 to 3 days after calving

cows were getting oats/soya mix for a couple of weeks cos they were on very middling silage

not complaining .. a bit early i know but IMO better than 1st May (we've a couple of late april calvers, but most likely these will carry 3 weeks over )

Nothing here yet but two heifers starting to move. With the mild weather it would be nice to be calving them and not in the freezing cold

valtra2 · 16-01-2020 10:25pm

tanko wrote: »

Were the two that had to be jacked bulls and the two small ones heifers?

Yip

charolais0153 · 17-01-2020 2:13am

squinn2912 wrote: »

Nothing here yet but two heifers starting to move. With the mild weather it would be nice to be calving them and not in the freezing cold

Youd see a lot more scour in mild weather, a bit of cold is no harm, warm wet weather is heaven for bugs

awaywithyou · 17-01-2020 2:42am

Maternity ward is busy tonight! vet also on the way to a cow with a twisted womb... lovely

Good loser · 17-01-2020 2:45am

A Her born mar 2018 springing for the last week.
Hope she calves sat/sun and easily.

One of a bunch of 14.
Looks like none of the others were rogered. But not sure.

squinn2912 · 17-01-2020 1:59pm

charolais0153 wrote: »

Youd see a lot more scour in mild weather, a bit of cold is no harm, warm wet weather is heaven for bugs

That's true too. Cows all vaccinated yesterday for lepto and scour so hopefully that'll keep all right as well. Cool rather than cold I don't like harsh weather but we'll be out in it soon enough and it won't be too pleasant. I'd like to push ahead and just be in it rather than waiting around. Everything is sitting ready.

Dunedin · 18-01-2020 11:46am

First calf dropped here last night. Calved around 9pm and sucked himself. If only they’d all do the same......

wats the craic · 19-01-2020 12:18am

first calf dropped friday dinner time 10 days early

Parishlad · 20-01-2020 5:20pm

First lady has just started here. Just spotted her on the camera at work. She normally takes her time calving and I'd expect her to calve away on her own. I'll be there before 5pm anyway just in case. Watch this space.........

RD10 · 20-01-2020 9:02pm

Parishlad wrote: »

First lady has just started here. Just spotted her on the camera at work. She normally takes her time calving and I'd expect her to calve away on her own. I'll be there before 5pm anyway just in case. Watch this space.........

Any news?

Toetohand · 20-01-2020 9:12pm

orm0nd wrote: »

anybody else getting calves dropped 12 to 18 days early ? calves small but very hardy , up and motoring straight away,

cows dont seem to spring down until 2 to 3 days after calving

cows were getting oats/soya mix for a couple of weeks cos they were on very middling silage

not complaining .. a bit early i know but IMO better than 1st May (we've a couple of late april calvers, but most likely these will carry 3 weeks over )

Noticed that with cows that were AI to FR last year. Once stock bull AA went in it stopped. Only thing that struck me was they were short gestation bulls on cows that were sired by short gestation bulls. Pushed start of breeding back a week as result. Average was 10 days to 2 weeks early. Due to start this year 7/2 but first few will do well to get past weekend. Interesting to see if it continues.

stanflt · 20-01-2020 9:21pm

Avg about 6 a day here at the minute- 50 cows in the boxes atm- have 32 heifer calves in on the ground- going well

Mooooo · 20-01-2020 9:23pm

stanflt wrote: »

Avg about 6 a day here at the minute- 50 cows in the boxes atm- have 32 heifer calves in on the ground- going well

How long would you have them in the calving boxes.? Would normally just bring em in here as the pins drop

stanflt · 20-01-2020 9:25pm

Mooooo wrote: »

How long would you have them in the calving boxes.? Would normally just bring em in here as the pins drop

Avg about 3 days- we synced 45 heifers the one day and had 10 cows on 2

Parishlad · 21-01-2020 1:11am

RD10 wrote: »

Any news?

Well that didn’t go exactly to plan! Ended up with a section. Calf wasn’t huge but cow just didn’t open up properly. Anyway, healthy heifer calf and cow is ok so far too. What a start to the season.

Timmaay · 21-01-2020 2:12am

Heifer number 3 just calved. All abit earlier than I wanted.

whelan2 · 21-01-2020 9:32am

Had a cow calving this morning had one of the legs bent back. Got it sorted and calf out

whelan2 · 21-01-2020 1:03pm

First set of twin of the year. 2 friesian heifers.

Brown Podzol · 21-01-2020 2:11pm

whelan2 wrote: »

First set of twin of the year. 2 friesian heifers.

Snap.

Mystic x HMY

squinn2912 · 21-01-2020 10:58pm

First calf last night. First fatality I’m afraid. Calved 2-3 weeks early and my father got her with the calf on the slats and calfbed out. Vet came and it was an ordeal getting it back in. Same one had a calf died at 7 months last year. 2/2 disasters. Wouldn’t be long putting you off giving second chances. No springing no nothing and she was checked yesterday morning. Grim.

whelan2 · 21-01-2020 11:07pm

squinn2912 wrote: »

First calf last night. First fatality I’m afraid. Calved 2-3 weeks early and my father got her with the calf on the slats and calfbed out. Vet came and it was an ordeal getting it back in. Same one had a calf died at 7 months last year. 2/2 disasters. Wouldn’t be long putting you off giving second chances. No springing no nothing and she was checked yesterday morning. Grim.

Ah the first one is always trouble. Hopefully she will come ok. Vet here last year used sugar on the calf bed before he pushed it back in

squinn2912 · 21-01-2020 11:09pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Ah the first one is always trouble. Hopefully she will come ok. Vet here last year used sugar on the calf bed before he pushed it back in

Yea my brother in law was saying that last night alright. Long time since it happened round here thank God, ag yea she’s ok like. Lovely animal but that’s twice she’s produced nothing. Hook.

Gudstock · 22-01-2020 2:01pm

3yr old first calver suckler calved last night. Had to assist, big bull calf, hard pull.
A week early.
Probably waited too long to assist, calf not good.
Calf with the vet this morning.
Now under the red lamp.
Calf won't suck, tried bucket with finger, bucket with teat, got some down with a lambs bottle.
I'm not comfortable with stomach tube, calf has basically no suck - anything I can try?

whelan2 · 22-01-2020 2:05pm

Gudstock wrote: »

3yr old first calver suckler calved last night. Had to assist, big bull calf, hard pull.
A week early.
Probably waited too long to assist, calf not good.
Calf with the vet this morning.
Now under the red lamp.
Calf won't suck, tried bucket with finger, bucket with teat, got some down with a lambs bottle.
I'm not comfortable with stomach tube, calf has basically no suck - anything I can try?

Honey or chocolate and patience

Gudstock · 22-01-2020 2:08pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Honey or chocolate and patience

Can you expand on the honey and choc?

whelan2 · 22-01-2020 2:10pm

Gudstock wrote: »

Can you expand on the honey and choc?

Honey on the teat or on your finger the calf will suck. Or put a square of chocolate on the calves tongue. I have used it for suckler calves. There used to also be an injection you could get from the vet not sure if it's still available.

tanko · 22-01-2020 2:23pm

Gudstock wrote: »

3yr old first calver suckler calved last night. Had to assist, big bull calf, hard pull.
A week early.
Probably waited too long to assist, calf not good.
Calf with the vet this morning.
Now under the red lamp.
Calf won't suck, tried bucket with finger, bucket with teat, got some down with a lambs bottle.
I'm not comfortable with stomach tube, calf has basically no suck - anything I can try?

What did the vet give the calf, did you milk the heifer and bring the milk with you to the vet?
If the calf hasn't got biestings if needs to get some now. Could a neighbour tube the calf for you?

Buford T. Justice XIX · 22-01-2020 2:43pm

Gudstock wrote: »

3yr old first calver suckler calved last night. Had to assist, big bull calf, hard pull.
A week early.
Probably waited too long to assist, calf not good.
Calf with the vet this morning.
Now under the red lamp.
Calf won't suck, tried bucket with finger, bucket with teat, got some down with a lambs bottle.
I'm not comfortable with stomach tube, calf has basically no suck - anything I can try?

Get a Trusti-Tuber, it's a bit pricey but will be around for years. I gave one to a neighbour one evening to tube a calf and he went straight to town and bought one for himself the following day.

It's idiot proof. I know, I've used it.

https://www.agridirect.ie/product/trusti-tuber-4ltr-calf-feeding-starter-kit

High bike · 22-01-2020 3:23pm

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

Get a Trusti-Tuber, it's a bit pricey but will be around for years. I gave one to a neighbour one evening to tube a calf and he went straight to town and bought one for himself the following day.

It's idiot proof. I know, I've used it.

https://www.agridirect.ie/product/trusti-tuber-4ltr-calf-feeding-starter-kit

Yeah they'r a great tool and very safe

High bike · 22-01-2020 3:25pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Honey on the teat or on your finger the calf will suck. Or put a square of chocolate on the calves tongue. I have used it for suckler calves. There used to also be an injection you could get from the vet not sure if it's still available.

a shot of Vitacel ?

tellmeabit · 22-01-2020 3:28pm

Gudstock wrote: »

3yr old first calver suckler calved last night. Had to assist, big bull calf, hard pull.
A week early.
Probably waited too long to assist, calf not good.
Calf with the vet this morning.
Now under the red lamp.
Calf won't suck, tried bucket with finger, bucket with teat, got some down with a lambs bottle.
I'm not comfortable with stomach tube, calf has basically no suck - anything I can try?

Ask someone else to stomach tube him, just the get the energy Into it. Might come after it, it won't if not getting the milk

Sugarbowl · 22-01-2020 3:34pm

High bike wrote: »

Yeah they'r a great tool and very safe

Is 75e on Agridirect the best price for this?

When's calving starting 2020

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