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Superthreads on Bargain Alerts

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  • #102
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,861 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Synode wrote: »
    Why would anyone not want superthreads. They're great

    I agree, they're the funniest things I've read on boards in a while.

    Look at the Amazon bargain alerts thread (http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057559694&page=14) and see how half the thread is people complaining about others adding comments, or making it a PC parts thread, etc etc :D

    In fact the main user that seems to be following the "rules" of the thread is the thread creator.

    .


  • #103
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    mrcheez wrote: »
    Incidentally as there seems to be a lack of interest from the powers that be on doing anything about this,

    Maybe because there's nothing to do as more people like the style of the thread than don't?


  • #104
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,861 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Maybe because there's nothing to do as more people like the style of the thread than don't?

    Not according to the poll hence the whole reason for the discussion.

    Incidentally whatever happened to that poll, or the new one? :)

    If the majority polled like superthreads, then that settles it.


    EDIT: Ah here's the old one: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057565487


  • #105
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    mrcheez wrote: »
    Not according to the poll hence the whole reason for the discussion.

    Incidentally whatever happened to that poll, or the new one? :)

    If the majority polled like superthreads, then that settles it.


    EDIT: Ah here's the old one: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057565487

    Ah, I never saw the results of that. My post was a question and not a statement of fact as I didn't actually know what the majority preferred.


  • #106
    thesandeman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Ah, I never saw the results of that. My post was a question and not a statement of fact as I didn't actually know what the majority preferred.

    That poll got closed before a lot of us had a chance to vote.


  • #107
    JustMac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭JustMac


    thesandeman wrote: »
    That poll got closed before a lot of us had a chance to vote.

    I had started that poll though I was not the one to start the discussion on superthreads. The poll was closed by a mod as it wasn't appropriate because there is a feedback forum for things like that.

    I sent a PM on the 25th of March to all the Mods of the BA forum requesting that we set up a poll on the topic as this discussion thread has run its course and there is no conclusive decision on what people want. We could get a much clearer view of that with a poll.

    I can understand the idea of a feedback forum but it is beyond me as to why the mods wont allow a poll about BA to be posted in the BA forum. It would get far more visibility and entries there. As it is there is a sticky thread on BA linking to this thread in Feedback. Why can't we just update that sticky thread to be a poll about superthreads?

    I have resent the PM to the mods of BA requesting this. I can't understand what the resistance to this is about. Its not like it would require any site development. It would simply mean going back to the way things were working well for many years. As with others I have no problem with superthreads for the supermarkets but thats about it. A simple poll could sort out what the majority of people want. I now check HotUKDeals about 3/4 times more frequently than BA, much because of the superthreads.


  • #108
    thesandeman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    I'm the opposite but I'm happy to accept a majority decision if they gave us a chance to vote.
    It's really strange that they won't have a poll. We would all be out of their hair then.


  • #109
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,861 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Perhaps the "new look" boards has an integrated superthread-blocking system :)

    EDIT: Hmm just had a gander at the new look site (clicking "Responsive Site" in footer of homepage), seems a little harder on the eyes as the black on white contrasts a bit harshly. Each forum post thread listing is also roughly the height of 2 of the old ones and more sparsely laid out, meaning that you see less without having to scroll.

    Anyway slightly off topic, but I guess it's the feedback thread :)


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  • #110
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Still no white smoke on this?

    You'd form a government quicker !


  • #111
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,861 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Why not create a poll hosted on another website like http://www.poll-maker.com/ or something else? (I've never used that site, just found it after a quick google)

    Perhaps suggest the question/answers here and then someone create the poll.

    My suggested question is...
    "Should superthreads be allowed on Bargain Alerts?"

    My suggested answers are...
    1) Yes, leave them as they are
    2) No, one-thread-per-bargain (no matter how minor)
    3) Keep superthreads for supermarket groceries/clothing-only
    4) (insert your suggestions...)

    I personally would go for 3, so you get your Tesco TV deals in their own thread but your "ferrior rucher @ 420" would go under supermarket groceries.


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  • #112
    JustMac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭JustMac


    So, the first time I sent private messages to all 3 of the BA mods Blade, Davy and WitnessMeNow was 30 days ago.

    I sent a private message reminder to the same 3 mods this day last week.

    Neither message has been responded to by anybody.

    While I appreciate that the mods are working voluntarily, as a teacher of Customer Service and a member of these forums for over 10 years I think, I find that their lack of care/interest is underwhelming to say the least.

    I presume they're happy with the status quo and are not interested in hearing or encouraging discussion on possible changes to the forum.

    This discussion should be taking place in the BA forum in place of the sticky which is currently taking space in the forum. It should also include a Poll. If there is no reply in the next couple of days then I will start a Poll there anyway.


  • #113
    Zascar
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    I always thought it would be a good idea to have a separate forum for the Superthreads to keep the main forum cleaner. Some stuff is better off in a superthread, yes sometimes a separate post might be better. So maybe create a Bargain Alerts [Super Threads] forum?


  • #114
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,861 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Zascar wrote: »
    I always thought it would be a good idea to have a separate forum for the Superthreads to keep the main forum cleaner. Some stuff is better off in a superthread, yes sometimes a separate post might be better. So maybe create a Bargain Alerts [Super Threads] forum?

    That's just passing the problem onto another forum rather than solving it though? We'll still get some of the good bargains hidden away in superthreads instead of being out in the open visible to all.

    Not to mention the overhead for mods to keep chat out of superthreads (it's less work for mods in the end if superthreads are done away with... or at least if superthreads are relegated to minor bargains like cheap booze)


  • #115
    Celtic Tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭Celtic Tiger


    The Amazon thread is trending for the 1000th time and once again theres nothing of interest for myself. I've clicked into it countless times now over the few months and after trawling through the people complaining about it (which I'd agree with) and the others offering examples that the bargain posted is not actually a bargain (also fair enough) I finally get to whatever "bargain" has bumped the thread and yeh....no interest.

    The thread is such a timesink. The only reason i keep checking is because I'd buy a lot of stuff off Amazon and I'm afraid ill miss something.

    If its 1 bargain per thread I can swiftly scan through the first 1-2 pages of BA per day and im done. The brilliance of BA is that bargains are highlighted, not lost in superthreads.

    I do agree with keeping the supermarket superthreads. But please for everything else 1 bargain per thread.

    Also the former thread in BA on this topic seemed to have a lot more people with a similar opinion as myself, I'd say a lot of the more casual BA users havent even noticed the sticky there directing to this thread. I know I didn't.


  • #116
    Slutmonkey57b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    Celtic Tiger wrote: »
    The Amazon thread is trending for the 1000th time and once again theres nothing of interest for myself. I've clicked into it countless times now over the few months and after trawling through the people complaining about it (which I'd agree with) and the others offering examples that the bargain posted is not actually a bargain (also fair enough) I finally get to whatever "bargain" has bumped the thread and yeh....no interest.

    The thread is such a timesink. The only reason i keep checking is because I'd buy a lot of stuff off Amazon and I'm afraid ill miss something.

    If its 1 bargain per thread I can swiftly scan through the first 1-2 pages of BA per day and im done. The brilliance of BA is that bargains are highlighted, not lost in superthreads.

    I do agree with keeping the supermarket superthreads. But please for everything else 1 bargain per thread.

    Also the former thread in BA on this topic seemed to have a lot more people with a similar opinion as myself, I'd say a lot of the more casual BA users havent even noticed the sticky there directing to this thread. I know I didn't.

    Why would you check the Amazon thread here when Amazon have so many other ways of getting them to you?


  • #117
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,861 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Celtic Tiger wrote: »
    ...after trawling through the people complaining about it (which I'd agree with) and the others offering examples that the bargain posted is not actually a bargain (also fair enough) I finally get to whatever "bargain" has bumped the thread and yeh....no interest.

    The thread is such a timesink....

    This is it in a nutshell
    Celtic Tiger wrote: »
    I'd say a lot of the more casual BA users havent even noticed the sticky there directing to this thread. I know I didn't.

    OK can we please get the poll back and finish this once and for all?

    If the majority of BA users aren't even aware this feedback thread exists, it's completely pointless

    It's 2 months now we've been talking about it, including the original poll


    As an aside I spend every waking moment thankful that the best Argos bargain I've ever encountered wasn't posted in the Argos superthread: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057435217


    .


  • #118
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,510 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Perhaps creating sub forums for the larger sites/supermarkets such as Amazon, Tesco etc that allows single threads for each offer to be posted might be a better option then mega threads?


  • #119
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,861 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Cabaal wrote: »
    Perhaps creating sub forums for the larger sites/supermarkets such as Amazon, Tesco etc that allows single threads for each offer to be posted might be a better option then mega threads?

    I suggested that back in post 35, it's certainly an option.

    Perhaps add that to the poll as the 4th answer?


  • #120
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,861 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    I guess this is as good as it'll get? http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=99535051&postcount=221

    It's not going to stop new members assuming that's where they post Amazon bargains, also it's unenforceable as there will still be "good" bargains included, rather than minor bargains.

    The Argos superthread is actually far worse, had a look there for a few minutes and there are some damn nice bargains that I (and most people) would have missed.


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  • #121
    JustMac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭JustMac


    JustMac wrote: »
    So, the first time I sent private messages to all 3 of the BA mods Blade, Davy and WitnessMeNow was 30 days ago.

    I sent a private message reminder to the same 3 mods this day last week.

    Neither message has been responded to by anybody.

    Well, it only took 32 days to get a response to my private messages.

    I have been informed that it is under discussion by mods and they will update us as soon as they know though I'm not holding my breath.


  • #122
    JustMac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭JustMac


    This has really become a joke at this stage. I had more belief in the system of mods years ago. This has really dropped in recent years as they seem unable to process or allow discussion of a relatively simple matter.:(


  • #123
    Synode
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭Synode


    Just because you want it changed doesn't mean others do. I'm delighted the Mods don't pander to the wants of a few


  • #124
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,861 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Synode wrote: »
    wants of a few

    huh?

    Last I checked, the majority voted to get rid of them.


  • #125
    Synode
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭Synode


    mrcheez wrote: »
    huh?

    Last I checked, the majority voted to get rid of them.

    The majority who voted. I didn't even see the vote and I'm sure many others are in the same boat


  • #126
    JustMac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭JustMac


    Synode wrote: »
    Just because you want it changed doesn't mean others do. I'm delighted the Mods don't pander to the wants of a few

    Have a look through the thread. I have openly said that I would like things changed but rather than insisting on it, as you have suggested, I have recommended a poll to get the majority view. I presume that you would agree that an open poll would determine what the 'majority' want?

    I am really disappointed that the mods have remained silent on the matter.

    There is a sticky thread taking up space on the BA forum linking to this thread. I have suggested replacing that with a poll for a week or 2 to get the views of the majority. As I've mentioned before I'm not suggesting anything that would require infrastructure or other change. Just to revert to the way things were.


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  • #127
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,861 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Synode wrote: »
    The majority who voted. I didn't even see the vote and I'm sure many others are in the same boat

    then lets have a vote. What are they afraid of?

    If the majority are happy with the status-quo then fine and we'll all accept that people want unweildy threads.


  • #128
    Synode
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭Synode


    I just don't see what the problem is. If you don't like them don't go into them. Hundreds of people actively use them so there's certainly a want for them


  • #129
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,861 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Synode wrote: »
    I just don't see what the problem is.

    Seriously? Do we need to repeat this all ad-infinitum?

    Believe it or not, people occasionally post real actual bargains in those threads, and that's where it's a problem because the majority then didn't see them. (the superthreads are unusable unless you have lots of spare time to wade through the comments)

    New users also assume that's where you post new bargains.. but they quickly get lost in the midst of the follow-up conversations.

    Anyway I'm not repeat this all again as it's been said countless times, but to save yourself the time the consensus is: keep the superthreads to minor bargains (like cheap socks), not actual bargains (like 50% off a TV).

    The mods even say this: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=99535051&postcount=221
    Keep this thread for minor bargains/small savings, otherwise start a new thread.


  • #130
    Synode
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭Synode


    Right so you want to force people to stop doing something they enjoy just because you may have missed a bargain or two.


  • #131
    mirrorwall14
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    In fairness that's not what he's saying. At this point this feedback thread has been open for two months. That is more than enough time for a decision to be officially made one way or the other


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  • #132
    megaten
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭megaten


    The Megathreads are only really useful for the supermarkets I feel. Having separate threads for bargains and another to discuss the bargains is extremely unwieldy. BA doesn't move that quickly to warrant all the megathreads.


  • #133
    Dav
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,840 ✭✭✭Dav


    Here's a suggestion folks...

    What if we had a weekly thread in place of the "mega" threads. We can even have them running in advance, so if for example, we know that Tesco is having a big clearance of electronics at the end of this month, we can include that in the thread for Week number 22 (end of May/Start of June), however, if Tesco's having a sale on beer for this weekend, we'd post that into this week's thread.

    It's a bit of a departure from what we're doing presently, but smaller threads are definitely the better option and when the week's done, that's a whole chunk of "expired" bargains that you won't have to wade through to find what's current.


  • #134
    Synode
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭Synode


    That sounds awful Dav. Seriously, hundreds of people use the megathreads. Why can't that just continue?


  • #135
    Dav
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,840 ✭✭✭Dav


    Because for a huge number of people, they're not desirable - it says so right here in this thread. I'm trying to find some sort of middle ground and workable solution...


  • #136
    dunworth1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭dunworth1


    i dont think there is a problem with the Tesco mega thread as the majority of the time its food related except for the rare clear outs

    the problem is with lots of mega threads.
    there's no need for Argos to have one each bargain should have its own thread

    the biggest problem with the likes of the Argos mega-thread is that the discussion of a bargain makes it messy.

    the best part of BA is the users feedback discussion of a bargain

    say for example a tv goes on sale at a crazy price but its crap the posts under the bargain are a very valuable resource for this kind of thing

    but if both extra bargains and discussion is happening in the one thread bargains get lost.

    and in my opinion having separate chat threads only makes it more messier.

    i spend quite a lot of time on boards everyday and i still find it hard to follow the mega threads.

    for BA i like to jump in quickly skim through and see if anything catches my eye and then pop back to other forums. but with the mega threads it means i need to skim and check through them also which is more time consuming so much so that ive actually kind of shifted over to just checking hduk and the argos scanner instead.

    bring back the BA I loved/hated as i ended up spending so much money


  • #137
    Synode
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭Synode


    Dav wrote: »
    Because for a huge number of people, they're not desirable - it says so right here in this thread. I'm trying to find some sort of middle ground and workable solution...

    And for a huge number of people they are. So why should we have to give up something just because a bunch of people don't like them. I don't like a number of forums on here but I don't start a campaign to get rid of them.

    Have a look at the poll now. I posted on 3 mega threads to tell people about the poll and the number saying keep them has shot up in the last hour. i completely missed the first poll and only saw the new one yesterday. I suspect there's many more like me.


  • #138
    JustMac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭JustMac


    Dav wrote: »
    Because for a huge number of people, they're not desirable - it says so right here in this thread. I'm trying to find some sort of middle ground and workable solution...

    1 week ago today I requested that the Poll thread on BA be 'un-stickied' and the thread title changed to indicate a poll as otherwise people wouldn't see it.

    I started the original poll which was closed and we were re-directed to the Feedback forum.

    When there was not much discussion on the Feedback forum I asked to open a poll in BA forum. I sent private messages to all the BA mods. It took 32 days to get a reply.

    The way I read the poll as it stands is that 202 people have voted and 82 like them so still a healthy majority don't like them and/or want change. This might change and if it does so be it. From the start I have asked that a fair process is used, which has not been the case. The options in poll are unclear.

    I suggested that the first poll should be a simple 'Do you like super threads Yes/No' and if the majority didn't want superthreads then they a further poll could have had the replacement options.

    I cannot understand the mods failure to interact here. I now notice that people are posting in the Feedback thread and the BA poll sticky. (I'll post in both!) What a mess!


  • #139
    Slutmonkey57b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    I still don't think the megathreads are nearly as big a problem as the zombie ones.


  • #140
    J.pilkington
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭J.pilkington


    Slutmonkey57b wrote: »
    I still don't think the megathreads are nearly as big a problem as the zombie ones.

    I completely agree if you are talking about the expired bargain alerts which turn into massive chat threads (eg French campsites on the ferry thread / TV functions) which are only of use to those who bought the deal and absolute noise to everyone else as they pollute the first few pages.

    For some reason they are allowed to remain.

    There should be a sub forum for these threads to be moved to, I did suggest this here but a mod moved my suggestion to a forum request section which made zero sense to me(am I supposed to canvas here and the BA forum as nobody views the forum request section where my suggestion was moved to).


  • #141
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,861 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Dav wrote: »
    Because for a huge number of people, they're not desirable - it says so right here in this thread. I'm trying to find some sort of middle ground and workable solution...

    Hi Dav, thanks for coming on board with the suggestion, but honestly I think the best solution is the one you have repeated several times and that's: keep superthreads for minor deals only. This may require some moderation though as the hardcore superthread users may still put large bargains in the superthreads (perhaps that's their intention: to only show the deal to a select few that are loyal followers, but it means the majority miss out). So it may be necessary for a mod to move a bargain out from a superthread if they deem it will interest the majority?

    So no change, but a change to how superthreads are moderated perhaps. More work for mods unfortunately though but at least everyone is happy.


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  • #142
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,861 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Also, perhaps to make it clear for new BA users, I'd suggest inserting "[MINOR BARGAINS]" in the title of each superthread so that it's clear what the desired content should be. So "Amazon Bargain Alerts" would become "Amazon Bargain Alerts [MINOR BARGAINS]" ?


  • #143
    Slutmonkey57b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    mrcheez wrote: »
    This may require some moderation though as the hardcore superthread users may still put large bargains in the superthreads (perhaps that's their intention: to only show the deal to a select few that are loyal followers, but it means the majority miss out).

    You honestly believe there are a cadre of users "hiding" bargains from you ... by posting them on an open forum in a place specifically designated for them?

    And on this basis you want things changed?


  • #144
    Synode
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭Synode


    Some people have way too much time on their hands


  • #145
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,861 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Synode wrote: »
    Some people have way too much time on their hands

    Like the people that can spend time wading through superthreads to find whether any recent bargains actually might be relevant to them :)


  • #146
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,861 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Slutmonkey57b wrote: »
    You honestly believe there are a cadre of users "hiding" bargains from you ... by posting them on an open forum in a place specifically designated for them?

    And on this basis you want things changed?

    They're hidden by the very fact they are in superthreads which are frankly time-wasting to use. The Amazon one has a full page of comments on the latest page and no mention of an actual bargain.


  • #147
    Synode
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭Synode


    Chat! On a discussion forum! Well I never.

    Since when have people decided that every thread should be bargains only? I must have missed that memo. The solution is simple, if you don't like the superthreads, don't use them. If you want to see every single bargain on this forum, then be prepared to have to read some chat


  • #148
    mirrorwall14
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    Synode wrote: »
    Chat! On a discussion forum! Well I never.

    Since when have people decided that every thread should be bargains only? I must have missed that memo. The solution is simple, if you don't like the superthreads, don't use them. If you want to see every single bargain on this forum, then be prepared to have to read some chat

    I have no issue with chat in threads. I have a major issue with bargains being hidden in threads. I've stopped reading the bargain forum because you can no longer hop in and scan the thread titles because the mega threads have hidden many bargains.

    I firmly believe that the title of the thread should be the actual bargain not a generic title


  • #149
    Synode
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭Synode


    mrcheez wrote: »
    Like the people that can spend time wading through superthreads to find whether any recent bargains actually might be relevant to them :)

    You know where's a good place for bargains without chat? Groupon. I know there's a lot of people who want to turn this place into that but here's a suggestion: Maybe they should head over there and leave this place as what it is - A discussion forum


  • #150
    Synode
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭Synode


    mirrorwall14 wrote: »
    I have no issue with chat in threads. I have a major issue with bargains being hidden in threads. I've stopped reading the bargain forum because you can no longer hop in and scan the thread titles because the mega threads have hidden many bargains.

    I firmly believe that the title of the thread should be the actual bargain not a generic title

    There's approx 4 or 5 superthreads. So your post makes no sense


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  • #151
    mirrorwall14
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    Synode wrote: »
    You know where's a good place for bargains without chat? Groupon. I know there's a lot of people who want to turn this place into that but here's a suggestion: Maybe they should head over there and leave this place as what it is - A discussion forum

    I don't want the forum changed into groupon. I just want the forum back the way it was before we ended up with multiple mega threads. No issue with chat in threads personally just with thread titles not referencing the actual bargain


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