CRT madness!

Inviere · 26-05-2020 12:21pm

Would it not be an issue for reflections?

o1s1n · 26-05-2020 9:06pm

You'd see reflections on it when it's off alright, but as soon as the picture is on you don't see any at all.

There's actually a smoked tint to the bezel (similar to what you see on arcade machines) so you don't actually see any of the monitor surround, just the picture in smoked glass when it's on.

iamtony · 27-05-2020 9:16am

o1s1n wrote: »

Finally achieved something this evening that I've been wracking my head over for ages, can't believe the answer was under my nose the whole time!

Streaming 4:3 content in it's correct full screen aspect ratio to a CRT - mainly for Netflix.

Wii no longer supports Netflix unfortunately.
WiiU does analogue out and you can get it going, but is locked to 16:9 so useless.

Got a 360 scart cable in the post today and hooked it all up. Took me an age to get it going, console had to do a million updates to get on to Live and then had issues with two step authentication. Even had to climb up into the attic to find my controller and when I did the battery compartment was missing, so I had to wedge in two AA batteries with some copper coins.

Got there in the end though and my god is it glorious!

Pictures don't do it justice, but trust me, it's worth doing! There's loads of 4:3 content on Netflix and the RGB signal is razor sharp. Animation looks amazing.

Can actually make out what's going on in DS9 again!

Ive done similar with a ps3 and my little pvm. Also started watching dvds on it recently. Its just mad to see the netflix logo and menu show up on a crt.
I predict the next big thing will be dvds again. No joke. Watching them was a totally different experience from browsing Netflix. Id say a retro dvd rental shop would do well if it sold fresh popcorn and nachos. I think people are really starting to miss that experience.

Inviere · 27-05-2020 12:51pm

iamtony wrote: »

I predict the next big thing will be dvds again

I checked the odds of that on Paddy Powers...not looking good. The mainstream has embraced digital distribution, & that's here to stay like it or loathe it.

o1s1n · 27-05-2020 2:19pm

If hipsters are currently buying VHS it's only a matter of time before they hit DVDs too!

iamtony · 27-05-2020 5:36pm

Inviere wrote: »

I checked the odds of that on Paddy Powers...not looking good. The mainstream has embraced digital distribution, & that's here to stay like it or loathe it.

Haha. I mean the next big retro thing. Id say if you opened a dvd store and also sold dvd players for 20 quid people would use it.
Many many people dont do illegal streaming and the selection on the subscription services are always lacking. Anytime i think of something i want to watch its never on netflix or prime. I have to either suffer the buffering and missing subtitles of the dodgy streaming platforms of go get my pc riddled with spyware trying to download off the bay or something lome that. I used to have a massive collection but got rid to save space with the digital age.

Anyway me and my missus would definitely use it once they sold fresh popcorn soft drinks and proper nachos like the odeon does.

Steve X2 · 27-05-2020 7:29pm

o1s1n wrote: »

If hipsters are currently buying VHS it's only a matter of time before they hit DVDs too!

I bought a VHS of Star Wars and a Laserdisc(Aliens) this week(on adverts). Am I a hipster? Time to get one of those hats now I guess :0/

:D

o1s1n · 27-05-2020 8:01pm

Just had a look at that laserdisc set there, wow absolutely gorgeous - unopened too!

Will you be peeling off that polyethylene and having a good sniff or keeping it sealed?

Steve X2 · 27-05-2020 8:22pm

o1s1n wrote: »

Just had a look at that laserdisc set there, wow absolutely gorgeous - unopened too!

Will you be peeling off that polyethylene and having a good sniff or keeping it sealed?

I'll be peeling that off to behold the wonders within

Inviere · 28-05-2020 7:12am

iamtony wrote: »

Haha. I mean the next big retro thing. Id say if you opened a dvd store and also sold dvd players for 20 quid people would use it.

CeX aren't far off that though. You can go in & browse their dvd selection for prices like €1, 0.50c, and less. If you can buy them for that price, who's gonna pay more just to rent them, and have to go all the way back with them?

You're right in that the legit streaming options can be lacking, and the market is very fragmented now with netflix, amazon, disney, etc...so the cost of having them all is quite expensive. I don't think standard definition dvd's though are the saviour, any more than vhs tapes are...they have a place, but I can't see a sustainable business model based on them. I'd imagine they'll remain mana for hobbyists and collectors is all.

28-05-2020 8:32am

VHS pornos where its at.

iamtony · 28-05-2020 11:45am

Inviere wrote: »

CeX aren't far off that though. You can go in & browse their dvd selection for prices like €1, 0.50c, and less. If you can buy them for that price, who's gonna pay more just to rent them, and have to go all the way back with them?

You're right in that the legit streaming options can be lacking, and the market is very fragmented now with netflix, amazon, disney, etc...so the cost of having them all is quite expensive. I don't think standard definition dvd's though are the saviour, any more than vhs tapes are...they have a place, but I can't see a sustainable business model based on them. I'd imagine they'll remain mana for hobbyists and collectors is all.

Id nearly give the dvds for free. You would make the money of the popcorn and the nachos.

Jack burton · 28-05-2020 12:30pm

BrownFinger wrote: »

VHS pornos where its at.

Any leads. I'd like to get a section of my garage behind beeds with an over 18s sign

Inviere · 28-05-2020 12:56pm

iamtony wrote: »

Id nearly give the dvds for free. You would make the money of the popcorn and the nachos.

Public liability insurance, rent, rates, wages, lighting, heating, electricity, security, & other assorted overheads....funded by popcorn & nachos?

o1s1n · 28-05-2020 1:12pm

Jack burton wrote: »

Any leads. I'd like to get a section of my garage behind beeds with an over 18s sign

We could all visit your garage in brown trench coats and green wax jackets with the collars up.

Jack burton · 28-05-2020 3:02pm

I'll get the member cards laminated too

safetyboy · 28-05-2020 9:13pm

Anyone repair BVM in Dublin, mine works for about 10 mins and then goes off, but if I just leave the test screen on it will stay on all day, I might have the BNC's wired wrong, anybody now what colour BNC goes where?

Steve X2 · 29-05-2020 12:30pm

o1s1n wrote: »

Just had a look at that laserdisc set there, wow absolutely gorgeous - unopened too!

Will you be peeling off that polyethylene and having a good sniff or keeping it sealed?

Got this today. Its mint condition, but was definitely opened in the past as the original receipt from 1994 was inside the box. Still very happy with it though.

iamtony · 29-05-2020 2:52pm

Inviere wrote: »

Public liability insurance, rent, rates, wages, lighting, heating, electricity, security, & other assorted overheads....funded by popcorn & nachos?

Stop bursting me bleedin bubble:rolleyes:

Inviere · 30-05-2020 7:22am

iamtony wrote: »

Stop bursting me bleedin bubble:rolleyes:

80s Synth Pop · 04-06-2020 8:46pm

Steve X2 wrote: »

Got this today. Its mint condition, but was definitely opened in the past as the original receipt from 1994 was inside the box. Still very happy with it though.

£123 for a single laserdisc movie? :eek:

I can just imagine the type of person buying this back in the day also having a Neo Geo AES console. None of that peasant VHS or nintendo/sega stuff :pac:

geotrig · 18-06-2020 9:52am

Ignore the mess as doing some work around the house so games room is in a heap and being used for storage and dust from everything and everywhere is all over everything more than anything !!Moved the widescreen tv( 2nd last grey one ) down from an upstairs room, I think I need to stop hoarding tv's though,its taken up my decks space but they were just gathering dust anyway !I don't know if I will keep it here or not tbh

Cant seem to imbed picture

https://imgur.com/a/qQcQCBy

o1s1n · 13-07-2020 3:17pm

Everything I ever wanted in life, a Lego CRT!

Check out the detail on the back of it.

https://www.vjgamer.com.hk/articles/2020/07/13/69964/lego-71374-nintendo-entertainment-system

2,646 pieces and 300 euro :eek:

KeRbDoG · 13-07-2020 5:10pm

o1s1n wrote: »

Everything I ever wanted in life, a Lego CRT!

Check out the detail on the back of it.

https://www.vjgamer.com.hk/articles/2020/07/13/69964/lego-71374-nintendo-entertainment-system

2,646 pieces and 300 euro :eek:

Keep an eye on Aliexpress searching for 'blocks 71374' - I'd say it will appear for much cheaper a month or so after its released by Lego

Colonel Panic · 14-07-2020 3:20pm

Are PVMs just mad money now all over?

I'd love a smallish one for tinkering

o1s1n · 14-07-2020 4:07pm

KeRbDoG wrote: »

Keep an eye on Aliexpress searching for 'blocks 71374' - I'd say it will appear for much cheaper a month or so after its released by Lego

I didn't know knock off Chinese lego existed, some of the prices on Aliexpress are almost too good to be true.

Ever try buying any? Really tempted to pick something up purely as a matter of interest!

Colonel Panic wrote: »

Are PVMs just mad money now all over?

I'd love a smallish one for tinkering

Only way to buy a PVM for cheap now is either finding one in the wild or nabbing a deal through here or adverts.

You get some decent auctions turning up on ebay now and again, but shipping is quite a pain and they're generally ridiculously over priced.

Actually I've had a 9 inch PVM successfully shipped through Parcel Motel now that I think of it.

KeRbDoG · 14-07-2020 5:29pm

o1s1n wrote: »

I didn't know knock off Chinese lego existed, some of the prices on Aliexpress are almost too good to be true.

Ever try buying any? Really tempted to pick something up purely as a matter of interest!

Lepin was the clone which was clamped down on last year so searching for just Lepin on Aliexpress prob shows nothing, you could search for lepinblocks or construction blocks and get the same items. I bought a set last year and still haven't got around to putting it together

from a dig though they look grand, loads of reviews of them on YouTube.

paul79 · 16-07-2020 10:16pm

Sony monitor on adverts bezel is damaged tho .

https://touch.adverts.ie/other-electronics/sony-pvm-20m2mde-retro-gaming-crt-monitor/21003803

o1s1n · 16-07-2020 10:26pm

Was just about to post it, he's that lad who found hundreds of monitors a few months back. (Not sure if this was one of them)

It's a shame the bezel is broken, this is actually a lovely monitor as it has a white case so looks a bit more house friendly.

Also saw a pretty rare 4:3 29 inch consumer Sony Trinitron

https://www.adverts.ie/accessories/sony-fd-trinitron-kv-29-crt-tv/20965170

paul79 · 16-07-2020 11:47pm

Yes pity about the bezel , I’ve been keeping an eye on his ads I knew he had come across a few monitors didn’t realize so many , My Jvc monitor is lovely but the skew at the top when using my sigma drives me crazy image is gorgeous otherwise , That tv looks great and only €50 bargain ,thank god it want found in an attic stored like new !

Steve X2 · 17-07-2020 12:17pm

I'd be interested in the PVM myself. There is a lot of damage to the front, you can see it in the extra pic i asked him to show. A bit of work involved to fix that up, but for the right price it might be worth a shot.

Edit: I ended up going for it for 200.

o1s1n · 17-07-2020 2:48pm

Honestly with the way things have gone with pro monitors and the fact that it's a 20 inch which are rare enough here (and in white!) it's not a bad deal at all. The picture quality looks absolutely gorgeous.

Might even be able to do something simple with a bit of Sugru in the correct grey to help fix the snap in the bezel.

Steve X2 · 17-07-2020 2:56pm

o1s1n wrote: »

Honestly with the way things have gone with pro monitors and the fact that it's a 20 inch which are rare enough here (and in white!) it's not a bad deal at all. The picture quality looks absolutely gorgeous.

Might even be able to do something simple with a bit of Sugru in the correct grey to help fix the snap in the bezel.

Will see in person tomorrow and decide how best to fix it up. I cant remember how easy it is to remove the bezel on these. But if it comes off ok I think a little 3d printing, resin and some epoxy and sanding might sort it out. It'd need to be painted after all that so will see how that goes.

o1s1n · 17-07-2020 3:17pm

They come off extremely easily. Just a few screws on each side panel and there should be a couple of screws down the bottom behind each of the pull out loop things on the front. Will pop right off. Might be an idea when you have it off to check if there's an anti glare coating sticker thing and maybe remove that too if there are any scratches on it.

Forgot you had the 3D printer! Should be able to come up with an interesting solution alright.

Wonder could you cut the bezel above and below the break, 3D print that section modeled on a mirror of the others side and then attach it?

eddhorse · 17-07-2020 4:01pm

Nice i was gonna offer 200 as well, least someone has it )

Fibre glass and sand maybe will fix it.

Steve X2 · 17-07-2020 4:10pm

o1s1n wrote: »

They come off extremely easily. Just a few screws on each side panel and there should be a couple of screws down the bottom behind each of the pull out loop things on the front. Will pop right off. Might be an idea when you have it off to check if there's an anti glare coating sticker thing and maybe remove that too if there are any scratches on it.

Forgot you had the 3D printer! Should be able to come up with an interesting solution alright.

Wonder could you cut the bezel above and below the break, 3D print that section modeled on a mirror of the others side and then attach it?

I dont think these medical displays had any glare stickers on them.
I think I'll repair/patch up whats there rather than cutting it up. Maybe use Milliput or something like that as I've had success with it in the past.

17-07-2020 10:25pm

Baking soda and superglue is another option

CiDeRmAn · 17-07-2020 10:58pm

Dry noodles?

Steve X2 · 17-07-2020 11:44pm

I think it'll be a combination of super fine Milliput and Jenolite, maybe a bit of gorilla epoxy on the inside section. That's what I've got on hand anyway.
It wont be perfect, but it should be an improvement.

I've already quickly designed a 3D printable pull bar for the right side as its missing. It'll just be for show, no real strength.

o1s1n · 18-07-2020 2:30am

Offer 300 once you have it fixed :pac:

Steve X2 · 18-07-2020 8:18pm

So I got the PVM this evening. The damage seems very repairable after inspection. Picture quality is really nice indeed(better than my other PVM's). It has the normal limited onscreen menu and the usual PVM/BVM button presses brings up the advanced menu, which is handy as it needed some slight display adjustments.

Quick pic that doesn't really do it justice:

Jack burton · 20-07-2020 8:54pm

Steve X2 wrote: »

So I got the PVM this evening. The damage seems very repairable after inspection. Picture quality is really nice indeed(better than my other PVM's). It has the normal limited onscreen menu and the usual PVM/BVM button presses brings up the advanced menu, which is handy as it needed some slight display adjustments.

Quick pic that doesn't really do it justice:

Very nice. Really want to get a decent sized pvm myself but prices are just too insane at the moment

Steve X2 · 22-07-2020 4:47pm

If anyone is missing a pull bar on their PVM/BVM(and has a 3D printer), I designed this to be attached with epoxy. It's for aesthetics only, so dont depend on it for anything functional

I do plan on doing a screw in version at some stage.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4551173

Jack burton · 28-07-2020 7:13pm

I know a few lads here aren't on Facebook and will enjoy this

And yes I am a Maniac who uses my phone on 5%

accensi0n · 01-08-2020 9:25pm

o1s1n wrote: »

Everything I ever wanted in life, a Lego CRT!

Check out the detail on the back of it.

https://www.vjgamer.com.hk/articles/2020/07/13/69964/lego-71374-nintendo-entertainment-system

2,646 pieces and 300 euro :eek:

Alright, fess up, who ordered? I'm so tempted.

03-08-2020 1:39pm

accensi0n wrote: »

Alright, fess up, who ordered? I'm so tempted.

When ever I get tempted by something like this (whick I am !!)
I picture it covered in dust taking up space in 3 months time

03-08-2020 5:49pm

Here’s the aliexpress version should you want your dust collector to cost a little less

Jack burton · 03-08-2020 10:51pm

So moving a few things around and setting up some tvs again in a more permanent place.

I have this lovely Sony but it's got a few issues.

Convergence on the bottom left hand corner that isn't being shifted after I use the wand on it.

And the picture is a few degrees off. I tried adjusting the neck yolk to sort it but doesn't seem to make any difference.

Any thoughts what to try next? I only have a one for all remote for it so haven't gotten into the service menu yet but is the picture rotation even an option in there?

Colonel Panic · 03-08-2020 10:57pm

Sony Trinitron KV21? I've got one of those! Do you know what the button sequence to get into the service menu is? I could check the options for you.

Jack burton · 03-08-2020 11:05pm

Just got sent a manual for it.

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/159569/Sony-Fd-Trinitron-Kv-21lt1e.html?page=20#manual

The convergence in the corner will probably be sorted out with some adjusting inside the tv but can't see an option for the rotation. Doesn't really look like a geometry issue to me, just looks like it's off level

CRT madness!

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