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GRASSorMUCK wrote: »Might have at one stage, but not very common?
Reading hear a little not much control only Resistant variety or out of cropping for 15 years?! Any ideas how it spread? new machinery or contractor as said to be soil borne?
http://archive.hgca.com/document.aspx?fn=load&media_id=3620&publicationId=3957
Soil bourne virus. France is riddled with it in some of the cereal growing areas.
My cereal ground is tilled since roman times so I expect all kinds of muck.
Volume and Cassia are the two varieties that succumbed to it with me. They are rated as 'tolerant' but not resistant. All white straw cereals are prone to it unless classed as resistant.
In Ireland I had oat mosaic virus but only affected oats. CMV hits everything.
Interestingly quality hasn't suffered much. Kph 68 @ 11.7% moisture.
Barley that's not affected won't be ripe for another week/10 days.
Straw @ €85/ton is producing more /ha than the grain.
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Soil bourne virus. France is riddled with it in some of the cereal growing areas.
My cereal ground is tilled since roman times so I expect all kinds of muck.
Volume and Cassia are the two varieties that succumbed to it with me. They are rated as 'tolerant' but not resistant. All white straw cereals are prone to it unless classed as resistant.
In Ireland I had oat mosaic virus but only affected oats. CMV hits everything.
Interestingly quality hasn't suffered much. Kph 68 @ 11.7% moisture.
Barley that's not affected won't be ripe for another week/10 days.
Straw @ €85/ton is producing more /ha than the grain.
Have seen oat mosaic at my uncles place in Ireland, he doesn't believe in rotation or that much
:rolleyes:. Just one of those things you know might happen and kind of expect some of it, some years worse than others?
Quality is good, less viable grain sites so plant pumped energy into fewer grains iykwim?. Would you....... add a little moisture as you sell it? Would you need a grain drier in France?! or just a little bit... Does much straw go down to spain from france or am i mistaken?
Put podstik on OSR a weekend, bout 10-12 days might go with glyphosate bout week early, 2 on last year. You continental guys get more heat to burn in OSR have heard don't usually dessicate or thinking of ze Germans? must cost few hundredkg/ha burning off but then wouldn't be ripe until August and risk of hail/heavy rain with a 90% there crop is too much. Considering was flowering start of APRIL in places not too bad i think, all sorts of crops some big yields some crappy spots that sat wet over winter and got weeds in, especially as kerb did nothing:mad: to my lovely BG. Some WB maybe 3-4 weeks away in area. 0 -
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Yea quality is fine but an awful lot of blind grains going over the screens ( wonder will much grow?). As you say the plant tried its best to fill the good grains.GRASSorMUCK wrote: »Have seen oat mosaic at my uncles place in Ireland, he doesn't believe in rotation or that much:rolleyes:. Just one of those things you know might happen and kind of expect some of it, some years worse than others?
Quality is good, less viable grain sites so plant pumped energy into fewer grains iykwim?. Would you....... add a little moisture as you sell it? Would you need a grain drier in France?! or just a little bit... Does much straw go down to spain from france or am i mistaken?
Put podstik on OSR a weekend, bout 10-12 days might go with glyphosate bout week early, 2 on last year. You continental guys get more heat to burn in OSR have heard don't usually dessicate or thinking of ze Germans? must cost few hundredkg/ha burning off but then wouldn't be ripe until August and risk of hail/heavy rain with a 90% there crop is too much. Considering was flowering start of APRIL in places not too bad i think, all sorts of crops some big yields some crappy spots that sat wet over winter and got weeds in, especially as kerb did nothing:mad: to my lovely BG. Some WB maybe 3-4 weeks away in area.
No I won't add any moisture to the grain as it's hardly worth the bother.
Don't need a grain drier here, just a combine up to its job as it can dry down fast.
Grain maize is always dried though, and not easily dried as it has a thick skin iykwim.
No osr here this year as not enough moisture at planting.
Hmmm......podstik... I don't use it here but I use it in Ireland. I would like to see some independent trial results on the benefits of this product.
No need to desiccate osr here.0 -
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How can you say that the podstik gives good results? Did you leave an untreated patch?
We try and avoid drying maize at all costs. Sell as much as we can for crimping which is handy as 38% moisture.
Crimp is the job with maize as harvest is a month earlier. Normally cut the maize for grain at 24 or 25% and the drying is a slow process. Max heat and as slow as she'll go. Two to three runs to get to 14%. Oh the diesel!!
Unfortunately yes:mad:, 2012, field was missed when burning off and then had to go with Diquat few days later. Same variety, Excalibur iirc or was that out then i forget... but field over hedge yielded 300kg/ha more no difference in inputs bar vary on p,k rates and some elevated pigeon damage on a headland by a small wood. Not scientific but worth it in to us iykwim.
Much hardship combining maize that wet? could imagine you need an agitator type device in grain tank near unload conveyor.? Alot of secondary loading or can you/have capacity to move back to wet bins?
Guess it's not like having a pile of dry wheat, throw some stuff you half dried over the top along few pedistals in for a week or 2 on with fans grand job...0 -
GRASSorMUCK wrote: »Unfortunately yes:mad:, 2012, field was missed when burning off and then had to go with Diquat few days later. Same variety, Excalibur iirc or was that out then i forget... but field over hedge yielded 300kg/ha more no difference in inputs bar vary on p,k rates and some elevated pigeon damage on a headland by a small wood. Not scientific but worth it in to us iykwim.
Much hardship combining maize that wet? could imagine you need an agitator type device in grain tank near unload conveyor.? Alot of secondary loading or can you/have capacity to move back to wet bins?
Guess it's not like having a pile of dry wheat, throw some stuff you half dried over the top along few pedistals in for a week or 2 on with fans grand job...
Well that's the closest to an independent trial on podstik that I've heard. It defo pays for itself so.
Maize at 38% moisture is surprisingly fluid. Flows like wheat at 20% so no bother at all to handle. Lots of secondary and tertiary loading as I'm not well set up for handling wet grains!
Maize is a funny crop in that when completely ripe the grain is close to 50% moisture. It then drops 0.8% moisture per day and if it rains the grain doesn't soak it in!
Forage maize is always harvested 120 days after planting so easy to book the forager on time.0 -
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