Are you a truth seeker?

8kczg9v0swrydm · 16-05-2020 7:44pm #1

There is nothing quite like thinking about the big questions of our existence: What is the meaning of life? Does God exists, and if He does, what does that mean for me? What is the good life? What is happiness?

Sometimes I think that life throws so many little things our way that we can go through it without pondering these questions. Distractions, the grind of daily life and our immediate necessities all make it difficult to just sit down, read a bit and have a good think.

Anyone thinking about these things? Do you keep looking until you have found what you can satisfy yourself to be the truth?

Andrew00 · 16-05-2020 7:46pm

I just don't think about it because it's depressing imo

16-05-2020 7:47pm

Waste of time..

Day Lewin · 16-05-2020 7:47pm

Yes, I do: all the time.

That's why I get depressed. But I can't stop.

Central Services · 16-05-2020 7:50pm

The next sentence is false. The preceding sentence is true.

Giraffe Box · 16-05-2020 7:51pm

Nope.

Zaph · 16-05-2020 7:52pm

Sounds like an awful lot of effort tbh.

alchemist33 · 16-05-2020 7:52pm

The problem with most of these questions is that we'll never know the answers.

nullzero · 16-05-2020 7:54pm

I'm pretty sure this world is some sort of hell, or at least purgatory.

Deja Boo · 16-05-2020 7:55pm

Eliseo Icy Lightning wrote: »

Anyone thinking about these things?

No.

What's for tea?

Central Services · 16-05-2020 8:01pm

alchemist33 wrote: »

The problem with most of these questions is that we'll never know the answers.

As old Descartes said - you only thing be sure of your own existence. Because you are experiencing it directly.

The only other thing you could experience directly is a hypothetical, super conciousness. Eg Zeus, Allah etc

bnt · 16-05-2020 8:03pm

The Who were asking the same thing, fifty years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx-QkUhz5Oc

Your Face · 16-05-2020 8:06pm

Have a good time all of the time.

bellylint · 16-05-2020 8:32pm

Not really, I mean if I did know these things would it make any real difference to my life? I think not tbh.
My happiness has nothing to do with an abstract concept, I feel it is out of place with the line that have set up in the OP.

L1011 · 16-05-2020 8:34pm

Truth and God don't go in the same sentence; so no, not to your obscure standards.

Wanderer2010 · 16-05-2020 8:46pm

I dont believe for a millisecond that every human being in existence hasn't questioned what is beyond this world, not even the hardcore atheists with their smug and too-sure-to-be-true judgments that there is only the material world, no spiritual realm, nothing.
Its the mystery that has haunted humankind since our inception- what happens to you when you die? Do you just enter a deep sleep, do you go to various religions descriptions of heaven and hell? Do you finally go "home" after a brief stay on earth in physical form on your journey from a young soul to a more evolved, wiser soul? Who knows, certainly I haven't a clue. I personally believe that we are here to learn some lesson or to evolve before either going to our spiritual home, maybe reincarnating again to learn lessons missed.
I know science has answered a lot of mysteries which previous civilizations attributed to supernatural but the biggest questions remain- what came before the Big Bang? What is the purpose of our emotions and intuition, our gut feelings which exits outside of bodily requirements? Yes, im a truth seeker.

Wibbs · 16-05-2020 8:49pm

nullzero wrote: »

I'm pretty sure this world is some sort of hell, or at least purgatory.

I seem to recall that was the belief of a "heretical" branch of early Christianity, the Gnostics. That the physical universe was being run by an imperfect god, or even a devil, most associated with the Abrahamic god and that the true god was a higher being that could be only reached through personal experience and mystic knowledge and for many Jesus was an extension of this higher god(who was both male and female), either directly or like a Buddha figure who attained enlightenment and sought to pass this on.

Reading the Old Testament you could see their point as far as a devilish deity going on. He's a nasty, hot tempered and capricious git a lot of the time. Mass murder? No bother. Sadistic trails of his followers? Yup. Genocide of the entire population of the world? Gabriel, hold me beer, I'm turning the taps on. The saw the serpent in the Garden of Eden as more an enlightening presence freeing humans from ignorance, whereas the god guy wanted to keep them "innocent" and thick, yet puts a great big tree with fruit of knowledge in the middle to tempt them. As you do when you're a git.

Wibbs · 16-05-2020 8:52pm

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

what came before the Big Bang?

Well since - as the theory goes - spacetime itself didn't exist before the big bang, so there was no before. Which is a hard nut to crack in our minds, though I always thought it a bit of a fudge myself.

What is the purpose of our emotions and intuition, our gut feelings which exits outside of bodily requirements?

I'm honestly struggling to think of a single example of one that can't be explained by our bodily requirements and the requirements of our society(from family to the wider human group).

LillyIsland · 16-05-2020 8:56pm

The truth is this is all a dream, the waking state is no more real than the dream state.

To whom does the universe come?

16-05-2020 8:56pm

Part of the problem with these kind of things, is once a certain kind of people start doing it, you end up with ridiculous assumptions and asking stupid questions..

Giraffe Box · 16-05-2020 9:01pm

LillyIsland wrote: »

The truth is this is all a dream, the waking state is no more real than the dream state.

To whom does the universe come?

Now you're talking my language.

Leg End Reject · 16-05-2020 9:02pm

I don't seek a truth or a meaning to life, if there is one I won't discover it.

The lockdown has made me think about all the time work eats up though - getting there and home again, pointless meetings, pointless initiatives, pointless reviews etc. I'm still doing what I'm paid to do from home, but without all the corporate bs.

I'm not stressed, tired or dreading the mornings anymore. I feel about 15 years younger and I'm dreading the return to the relentless rat race.

Ipso · 16-05-2020 9:10pm

LillyIsland wrote: »

The truth is this is all a dream, the waking state is no more real than the dream state.

To whom does the universe come?

Nice deepity

mr_fegelien · 17-05-2020 12:16am

Quantum Erasure · 17-05-2020 12:40am

Truth... What is Truth?

the purple tin · 17-05-2020 8:42am

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

I dont believe for a millisecond that every human being in existence hasn't questioned what is beyond this world, not even the hardcore atheists with their smug and too-sure-to-be-true judgments that there is only the material world, no spiritual realm, nothing.
Its the mystery that has haunted humankind since our inception- what happens to you when you die? Do you just enter a deep sleep, do you go to various religions descriptions of heaven and hell? Do you finally go "home" after a brief stay on earth in physical form on your journey from a young soul to a more evolved, wiser soul? Who knows, certainly I haven't a clue. I personally believe that we are here to learn some lesson or to evolve before either going to our spiritual home, maybe reincarnating again to learn lessons missed.
I know science has answered a lot of mysteries which previous civilizations attributed to supernatural but the biggest questions remain- what came before the Big Bang? What is the purpose of our emotions and intuition, our gut feelings which exits outside of bodily requirements? Yes, im a truth seeker.

The original christians believed in reincarnation. When Jesus was born he was supposed to have been reincarnated I think over 30 times by then.

When the romans took over the religion they whitewashed that out along with other aspects, anyone who tried to follow the old ways or preach them was executed.

Christianity was very different to what we have now.

re the big bang, ancient religions like hinduism had some cool ideas about how the universe is repeatedly being destroyed and created, there are scientists who agree with that, a universe that expands and contracts back to almost nothing, on a constant loop.

upupup · 17-05-2020 9:27am

The Truth is not knowledge,it's a Feeling.
When you feel it,nothing matters much any more.Bliss,Nirvana,The kingdom of heaven within you.:)

Q.Where is it?
A.Its under all your Emotions.

Zebra3 · 17-05-2020 10:22am

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

I dont believe for a millisecond that every human being in existence hasn't questioned what is beyond this world

Even babies that die straight after birth?

The Tetrarch · 17-05-2020 10:28am

Eliseo Icy Lightning wrote: »

What is the meaning of life? Does God exists, and if He does, what does that mean for me? What is the good life? What is happiness?Anyone thinking about these things? Do you keep looking until you have found what you can satisfy yourself to be the truth?

1) the period of time when a person is alive
2) yes He exists. He made everything. If He didn't when you get up in the morning and open the door there would be nothing outside.
3) a British television comedy
4) happiness is a temporary pleasant emotion
5) at any moment there are people thinking about these things
6) there are many truths, Grasshopper. You must keep looking.

fryup · 17-05-2020 10:58am

Badly Drunk Boy · 17-05-2020 11:05am

I welcome the distractions, since I know all the answers anyway...

Harry Palmr · 17-05-2020 11:05am

I do not seek the truth, the truth seeks me.

barneystinson · 17-05-2020 11:13am

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

I personally believe that we are here to learn some lesson or to evolve before either going to our spiritual home, maybe reincarnating again to learn lessons missed.

Jaysus, so do you reckon maybe Hitler, or Stalin or someone, has come back as the Coronavirus...?

biko · 17-05-2020 11:37am

If you are a truth seeker, then you are a scientist.

Giraffe Box · 17-05-2020 12:11pm

upupup wrote: »

The Truth is not knowledge,it's a Feeling.
When you feel it,nothing matters much any more.Bliss,Nirvana,The kingdom of heaven within you.:)

Q.Where is it?
A.Its under all your Emotions.

Why 'under' them?
Why not above them, or even adjacent to them?
Why, in your post above, does 'Emotions' begin with a capital letter?

And while I'm at it, why under your 'emotions'?
Why not under your 'shoe', or under the green recycling bin outside your mother's house?

upupup · 17-05-2020 12:15pm

Giraffe Box wrote: »

Why 'under' them?
Why not above them, or even adjacent to them?
Why, in your post above, does 'Emotions' begin with a capital letter?

And while I'm at it, why under your 'emotions'?
Why not under your 'shoe', or under the green recycling bin outside your mother's house?

Why all the "whys"?

Giraffe Box · 17-05-2020 12:29pm

upupup wrote: »

Why all the "whys"?

Why not?

Strumms · 17-05-2020 1:01pm

We’ll find out. In the mean time I’m not going to worry about it. When I get up in the morning I try to be a good person as best I can, I attempt to enjoy life and contribute a little to the enjoyment of others as best as I can...focused on the NOW instead of the next.

What is ‘beyond this world’ ? We don’t find out until we get beyond it.. I don’t plan on finding out anytime soon.

There are hundreds of religions in the world... all with different ideas and attitudes as to what’s in the afterlife, how to get there, what to do and what not to do.. they cannot all be right, they aren’t.

So I say ignore them all.. follow your own compass, be a good person, be nice, contribute to the happiness, wellbeing and success of yourself and others around you as best you can...

B.A._Baracus · 17-05-2020 1:35pm

L1011 wrote: »

Truth and God don't go in the same sentence; so no, not to your obscure standards.

Truth and God?
Obscure standards?
Don't tell me, you're an atheist right?

Fecking hell you lot love to let people know.

upupup · 17-05-2020 2:05pm

Giraffe Box wrote: »

Why not?

...........

Its about what makes us happy.
If a concept of God makes us happy.Great!
If a concept of no God makes us happy.Great!...but if and when we do find that happiness,we have not found the truth or the way for everyone,we have found the way to happiness for our self so best not to force our religion or atheist view on anyone.Share it if you wish but don't expect all to agree or understand.We're all different.

The truth is in us and we won't get that eureka moment from someone else's answer.

kowloon · 17-05-2020 2:07pm

I don't think there's any meaning to anything, no afterlife, no souls, none of it. I think consciousness might just be a function of complexity, the brain chunking data from a bunch of different sensors into abstract thoughts.

Ipso · 17-05-2020 4:30pm

upupup wrote: »

...........

Its about what makes us happy.
If a concept of God makes us happy.Great!
If a concept of no God makes us happy.Great!...but if and when we do find that happiness,we have not found the truth or the way for everyone,we have found the way to happiness for our self so best not to force our religion or atheist view on anyone.Share it if you wish but don't expect all to agree or understand.We're all different.

The truth is in us and we won't get that eureka moment from someone else's answer.

If that person’s answer is right, you will.

upupup · 17-05-2020 5:37pm

Ipso wrote: »

If that person’s answer is right, you will.

Yes,someone else's answer will help for a while but will fade as its usually intellectual.
The truth is at the top of the scale of happiness.That beautiful taste.That amazing aroma.That wonderful view.That magical music.That sensual touch.The moment of orgasm....that's how to connect with the truth,its not in a book.

LeYouth · 17-05-2020 5:41pm

Eliseo Icy Lightning wrote: »

There is nothing quite like thinking about the big questions of our existence: What is the meaning of life? Does God exists, and if He does, what does that mean for me? What is the good life? What is happiness?

Sometimes I think that life throws so many little things our way that we can go through it without pondering these questions. Distractions, the grind of daily life and our immediate necessities all make it difficult to just sit down, read a bit and have a good think.

Anyone thinking about these things? Do you keep looking until you have found what you can satisfy yourself to be the truth?

Who knows if God exists or not. It ain't gonna change ****ty things like coronavirus from happening.

My advice. Just get on with your life and try to live a good one!

Wibbs · 17-05-2020 6:11pm

the purple tin wrote: »

The original christians believed in reincarnation. When Jesus was born he was supposed to have been reincarnated I think over 30 times by then.

When the romans took over the religion they whitewashed that out along with other aspects, anyone who tried to follow the old ways or preach them was executed.

Christianity was very different to what we have now.

Well that was the Gnostics again, it was never a part of mainstream Christianity from the start.

L1011 · 17-05-2020 6:15pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Truth and God?
Obscure standards?
Don't tell me, you're an atheist right?

Fecking hell you lot love to let people know.

The opening post makes the posters religious intents quite obvious; are you going to have a pop at that?

B.A._Baracus · 17-05-2020 6:30pm

L1011 wrote: »

The opening post makes the posters religious intents quite obvious; are you going to have a pop at that?

And I bet you got a big hard on for having the chance to tell people you're an atheist and like so many atheist's on here you couldn't resist.

But here's some free advice: no one gives a **** if you don't believe in God. Even if you did no one would give a **** too. All wasted energy my friend.

archer22 · 17-05-2020 6:32pm

Well I can't see any logical reason why any intelligent super being would have put us here.

Unless it was to breed breed and breed without a thought for the long term consequences, consume and pollute everything and destroy the planet for every other species.

Oh and of course cry and whinge when Covid-19 gives us a small taste of our own medicine.

Wibbs · 17-05-2020 6:38pm

archer22 wrote: »

Well I can't see any logical reason why any intelligent super being would have put us here.

Well I've often thought - mostly when inhaling non tobacco products - that if we extend the Gaia principle(that the Earth is a living entity) out to the universe, it's possible intelligent life is the reproductive system of the universe "creature". We're barely outa the egg and can split atoms and the like, imagine humanity or who we build to replace us in half a million years, or ten million. We'd be like inexpertly shaved apes compared to them. Maybe they would be able to create new universes in other empty dimensions and set it off all over again by seeding the ingredients just right.

Kylta · 17-05-2020 6:46pm

In regards to the he does or doesn't exist crap, can we all together and in unison belt this song out for all
Always Look On The Bright Side Off Life.

L1011 · 17-05-2020 6:50pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

And I bet you got a big hard on for having the chance to tell people you're an atheist and like so many atheist's on here you couldn't resist.

But here's some free advice: no one gives a **** if you don't believe in God. Even if you did no one would give a **** too. All wasted energy my friend.

You didn't answer the question, I see. Rather a lot of wasted energy in that reply, and your anger.

You should probably find something else to get pointlessly angry over. Or maybe nothing.

You could also apply your own advice about not caring to this entire thread; considering the entire purpose of the thread is someone pointing out they are religious.

Are you a truth seeker?

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