College Green Plaza -- public consultation open

Even with the massive cycle lane, cyclists are still insisting in on using the traffic lane heading to Westmoorland and dangerously squeezing up the side of moving buses. . Usually to mount the curb half way and try to cross over the Trinity side of the street.

What is needed is a traffic warden with a ticket book to start disciplining idiots.

Deedsie wrote: »

They give parking tickets to people parked in legal parking spaces but who either don't have a parking permit or it has expired. And rightly so. I would much prefer if they focused on lazy, entitled ****s who park their vehicles on double yellow lines or cycle lanes or bus lanes etc etc

Same could be said for city clampers. All the do is check if your ticket is expired in a designated spot, and dont go for the cars and vans blocking up the show.

prinzeugen wrote: »

Why can't cyclists go through puddles?

If you choose to cycle in wet weather then getting wet is part of it.

Pooling water is generally a sign of poor design. With a new development like this, there is no excuse for not putting in decent drainage.

Carawaystick wrote: »

How many people have died?
If it's lethal and all?

What sort of ridicules and foolish question is that?

Are you blind to all the adverts and press the RSA have shown about restricted view .

prinzeugen wrote: »

Why can't cyclists go through puddles?

If you choose to cycle in wet weather then getting wet is part of it.

Getting wet is fine, but puddles tend to form in and around potholes, and cycling through an unexpected pothole is likely to result in damage to the bike and/or injury to the cyclist. And it's impossible to tell which puddles have potholes (or are hiding other obstacles) and which don't, so all puddles need to be avoided.

Make sense?

Having cycled southbound for the first time since the new layout opened, from D'Olier to Nassau st round trinity and onto Merrion SQ all I can say is that someone is going to get killed by tramlining , and tis going to be sooner rather than later.

Middle Man wrote: »

Well it's for trams and in any case, you're in an area where there is heavy pedestrian traffic - anywhere between O'Connell Street and Grafton Street is certainly no place for cyclists!

Valid point.

One of the significant issues which is becoming clearer by the day in the Grafton St/College Green/Westmoreland St area is the huge increase in Risk to both Pedestrians and Cyclists which will suddenly appear once LUAS BXD operations begin.

I really cannot see how Dublin City Council can progress this plan much further without conceeding that Pedestrian Barriers will be required in several locations in this area.

In communicatons I have had with DCC,they strongly declare that such Barriers do not form part of their strategy for Dublin City Centre....I suggest this will have to change after the first fatalities.

The Citadis system appears to require the odd street cab.

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bk wrote: »

I disagree, I've noticed for years that Dublin City Center streets are destroyed with way too many bus stops, ESB boxes, road traffic light boxes, etc.

There are long threads about this on other forums going back years.

Most of these can be hidden away underground with modern technology. There really is no excuse for it.

I'd love to see what an underground bus stop looks like :rolleyes:

But seriously we need bus stops because we can't just flag down buses anywhere

bk wrote: »

Of course we need bus stops, what we don't need is the dozen or so bus stops within 5 meters of each other for various companies on Westmoreland St for instance.

Your picture was blowing out the forum for me so I had to block it though I saved it before that to look at it .

As to the content of the picture well if you are going to allow competition in bus services then there should be bus stops provided by the regulator in busy locations so that every company doesn't have their own and the pavement is crowded out

That to me is a failure of regulation since it should have been anticipated in locations like that

brokenarms wrote: »

Imm will that work..
Those private guys hang out in stops alot trying to get as many fairs as they can. Blocking the lot up. Even those red open top tour busses have blocked me from getting in loads of times. In high traffic areas such as Dame street. They just sit there. Twiddling their thumbs.

Private and DB need to be separate.

There are two separate issues there. Bus stop locations, and the bus stop poles on street.

As I've posted already, I absolutely agree that City PSO services and other service types should have separate stop locations in the city centre. Mixing them just does not work.

The relevant point to this thread is that the days of individual operator bus stop poles & signs are numbered although it will take several years to complete - there will be a generic NTA style stop rolled out as is currently being rolled out in Cork.

An example of the new stop style can be found here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/60501971@N08/35253005874/in/album-72157686530262646/

There are numerous locations outside of the city centre where multiple operators stop and where there are several signs - for example the stops on the N11 at UCD, or stops where both Dublin City PSO services and regional PSO services stop (currently DB and BE), and stops between Maynooth and Liffey Valley served by both DB services and Airport Hopper.

But I think the main point is that this is going to take time, given the cost and sheer volume of stops across the entire country that will need to be rolled out.