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Connacht Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Part II

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    Big game next week in Cardiff.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭S12b


    7 tries
    5 points.
    A masterclass in kicking from the tee from Ronaldson
    Players taken off early and rested

    A great nights work

    And Robbie MOTM scoring the winning try for Ireland.....not a bad day at all!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭ouncer


    If I were to ask a question its Finn and bealham. Rodney has not been great and dani is obviously a better winger than centre.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,965 ✭✭✭connachta


    freyners wrote: »
    Healy for lions.

    Ronaldson for ireland


    Lam for freedom of galway


    With a more realistic approach I'd say

    Henshaw for Lions in the near future
    Healy and Poolman in the extended Irish squad (more than Leader IMO)
    TOH may well push Mils/leader out of the first XV
    Ronaldson for 10, undoubtedly (open play and kicking from the tee were class act, and TOH/Leader/Porter can find touch if he's bothered by his recent injury)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭oneofakind32


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    Big game next week in Cardiff.

    Looking at next weekend's fixtures, if we beat Blues that would take them all but out of top 6 contention. If Leinster can beat Scarlets it will really hurt their chances of 6th.

    Watching Robbie today made me realise how much we have been missing him. If we can get him back from the 6N uninjured and Bundi back fit, we could be looking at huge end to the season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭Borders no.2


    Looking at next weekend's fixtures, if we beat Blues that would take them all but out of top 6 contention. If Leinster can beat Scarlets it will really hurt their chances of 6th.

    Watching Robbie today made me realise how much we have been missing him. If we can get him back from the 6N uninjured and Bundi back fit, we could be looking at huge end to the season.

    Being honest even if we lost to Blues I think we should finish ahead of them as they have a rotten run in but it is another very significant game. Being honest we are unlikely to get much away to Munster and we have 3 sides chasing the play offs to come to Galway so Cardiff and Zebre are the most winnable games.

    Looking at Cardiff and Edinburgh earlier I think Edinburgh had enough to win that game but Cardiff struck at good times and got a few breaks. I think Cardiff is very winnable if Connacht go there with conviction they can score trys. Defence wasn't tested tonight but wasn't good enough the two weeks previous so will need to be better in that area.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭typhoony


    not sure of the logistics of it but if Donnybrook was available it would be big advantage if they could train there for a few days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭oneofakind32


    typhoony wrote: »
    not sure of the logistics of it but if Donnybrook was available it would be big advantage if they could train there for a few days.
    Thats would be a matter for the Leinster Branch, could be a lot of politics involved. Ditto for UCD. Might be easier to rent out Drum, Salthill Devon's ground for the day but I don't know if that is the same type of pitch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭ouncer


    connachta wrote: »
    Healy for Ireland, TOH for IrEland, and now Ronaldson for Ireland:D
    Healy very impressive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    TOH very impressive
    Also thought whole backline played better when Finn came on and moved to centre and Poolman went to wing (nothing against Niyi)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭death1234567


    d-gal wrote: »
    We should really have the attitude of chasing 4th and 5th. We are only 5points behind Ospreys now and 7points off 4th.
    6 point cushion on Scarlets and 10 on Edinburgh
    No we shouldn't. Scarlets have a much easier run in than Connacht and it's going to be touch and go to stay ahead of them. Getting 6th should be the focus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,448 ✭✭✭evil_seed


    d-gal wrote: »
    We should really have the attitude of chasing 4th and 5th. We are only 5points behind Ospreys now and 7points off 4th.
    6 point cushion on Scarlets and 10 on Edinburgh

    Agreed. Why not go hell for leather for one of those. You never achieve anything if you don't raise your goals


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    I think the team have been looking upwards all season, not just targeting 6th, but I wonder if at times they got a bit cocky and didn't take the other teams going for 6th seriously - the loss to Edinburgh and draw with Cardiff particularly. We have a much tougher run-in - we need to realise that we're not guaranteed wins against any team - and need to target every game like a cup final. Zebre and Cardiff are must-win games, and we will probably need at least one more win. Ulster at home is the best chance of that, maybe Ospreys in the last game if they have already secured a playoff spot and can't be overtaken, but that's not looking likely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    I'd love to finish 4th/5th as much as anyone, but I do think we need to be measured in our approach right now. Just keeping Scarlets (who have an easier run in) at a push should be the immediate target by just winning. The Ospreys will welcome back a lot of players after the 6N and will be stronger again. Our season depends on staying strong at home and beating Zebre and Cardiff away while hoping Scarlets continue to be awful away from home. One game at a time.

    Heard Bundee will be back for Gloucester and the team are desperate to win the trophy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,965 ✭✭✭connachta


    Cardiif isn't easy to play away. Connacht must benefit more of the " Sportsground effect" to beat two of Glasgow/Ospreys/Ulster at home. All those are winnable, these teams are less impressive than they were in the past few years


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,965 ✭✭✭connachta


    Never correct to rejoice about injuries, but those two could really help Connacht "Josh Navidi and Lucas Amorosino were injury victims"


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,965 ✭✭✭connachta


    Cuthbert, Anscombe, Kristian Dacey, Scott Andrews and Cory Allen have all been made available for selection for Friday night's home Guinness PRO12 clash with Connacht Rugby

    If only Joe could do the same with Henshaw, in exchange we could rest him against Munster/Gloucester


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    connachta wrote: »
    Cuthbert, Anscombe, Kristian Dacey, Scott Andrews and Cory Allen have all been made available for selection for Friday night's home Guinness PRO12 clash with Connacht Rugby

    If only Joe could do the same with Henshaw, in exchange we could rest him against Munster/Gloucester

    Never in a million years gonna happen
    None of those Welsh players started vs France


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭RobbieRuns


    Robbie hurt his ankle anyway, I was worried for him. Look at the bandage around his ankle when he scores that try. He needs a rest between those test matches.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭S12b




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    I think the emergence of Garry Ringrose as a potential star could be good news for Connacht. He might get opportunities in the Pro12 during the World Cup and if he comes good Leinster might forget about signing Henshaw. Plus Ben T'eo looks like a quality prospect. Then there's Madigan, Fitzgerald and Reid who can play in the centre. Ulster have centres coming out of their ears while Keith Earls is flourishing at 13 right now for Munster.

    It might be the best use of resources for Team Ireland if Henshaw remains at Connacht.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Bridge93


    I think the emergence of Garry Ringrose as a potential star could be good news for Connacht. He might get opportunities in the Pro12 during the World Cup and if he comes good Leinster might forget about signing Henshaw. Plus Ben T'eo looks like a quality prospect. Then there's Madigan, Fitzgerald and Reid who can play in the centre. Ulster have centres coming out of their ears while Keith Earls is flourishing at 13 right now for Munster.

    It might be the best use of resources for Team Ireland if Henshaw remains at Connacht.

    Are Munster not the ones supposedly sniffing after him now?
    They're one injury away with Earls from back to scraping the barrel, and Earls back on the wing would be nice from Munsters point of view.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭total former


    I think the emergence of Garry Ringrose as a potential star could be good news for Connacht. He might get opportunities in the Pro12 during the World Cup and if he comes good Leinster might forget about signing Henshaw. Plus Ben T'eo looks like a quality prospect. Then there's Madigan, Fitzgerald and Reid who can play in the centre. Ulster have centres coming out of their ears while Keith Earls is flourishing at 13 right now for Munster.

    It might be the best use of resources for Team Ireland if Henshaw remains at Connacht.

    Leinster have never shown any interest in Henshaw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Bridge93 wrote: »
    Are Munster not the ones supposedly sniffing after him now?
    They're one injury away with Earls from back to scraping the barrel, and Earls back on the wing would be nice from Munsters point of view.

    Munster have plenty wingers on the books so I'm not sure if Earls will be a full-time winger.
    Leinster have never shown any interest in Henshaw.

    But the indo said it... :p


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Preston Magnificent Script


    I think the emergence of Garry Ringrose as a potential star could be good news for Connacht. He might get opportunities in the Pro12 during the World Cup and if he comes good Leinster might forget about signing Henshaw. Plus Ben T'eo looks like a quality prospect. Then there's Madigan, Fitzgerald and Reid who can play in the centre. Ulster have centres coming out of their ears while Keith Earls is flourishing at 13 right now for Munster.

    It might be the best use of resources for Team Ireland if Henshaw remains at Connacht.

    Blow your shmoke up someone else's hole for a bit! Leave the kid at at it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Blow your shmoke up someone else's hole for a bit! Leave the kid at at it.
    Bit harsh :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    Blow your shmoke up someone else's hole for a bit! Leave the kid at at it.

    Don't think it's smoke, the boy is going to be the real deal and the sooner Leinster start playing him the better. It's why I think Leinster dot need Henshaw, they've got their own homemade 13 who they can develop


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,367 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Not sure what to make of this - from the Indo

    Concern as Connacht disband schools squad

    Last Tuesday a meeting was held in Galway between the schools representatives and new Connacht domestic rugby manager Eric Elwood.

    Those involved in running schools rugby were informed that, from next season, the CBIRFU will not be competing in the schools interprovincial series.

    Inteead, they will be fielding one squad under the banner U-18s as part of the youths tournament.

    Confirmation from the Connacht Branch followed, informing those on the ground voicing concerns which at least warrant debate, that "the decision the Branch have made at this time is to play under the banner of Connacht U-18 and play in the youths competition. An open mind will be kept to regularly review this situation"

    While clearly the bottom-line objective is to do what is best for Connacht rugby going forward, it is the unnecessary haste surrounding this decision, without proper debate or notification, that rankles with those currently working on nursing the next generation of Robbie Henshaws through.

    Timing is everything, we know, but that concern is heartfelt.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,571 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    phog wrote: »
    Not sure what to make of this - from the Indo
    It might be better for Connacht. They use the same squad in both the youths and schools competitions and with the IRFU wanting to move the youths interpros a few weeks earlier in the season its better for Connacht.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,817 ✭✭✭b.gud


    Robbo wrote: »

    Call me crazy but after reading that update I'm actually feeling a bit better about our chances against Munster. Assuming we get the players back that they expect, and no one else gets injured between here and then, touch wood grab a rabbits foot etc, then we will be able to field our 1st choice team minus Henshaw, and McSharry Aki is a great back up to be able to go to. Munster on the other hand will be missing O'Connell, O'Mahoney, maybe O'Donnell, Murray, Zebo and maybe Jones.

    Obviously we still have to go to Thomand and that's a huge ask but maybe it's not the worst time for us to go there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    b.gud wrote: »
    Call me crazy but after reading that update I'm actually feeling a bit better about our chances against Munster. Assuming we get the players back that they expect, and no one else gets injured between here and then, touch wood grab a rabbits foot etc, then we will be able to field our 1st choice team minus Henshaw, and McSharry Aki is a great back up to be able to go to. Munster on the other hand will be missing O'Connell, O'Mahoney, maybe O'Donnell, Murray, Zebo and maybe Jones.

    Obviously we still have to go to Thomand and that's a huge ask but maybe it's not the worst time for us to go there

    I'm not sure we will be missing all of those. We have no match the week after ( :( ) so the players will get a week off then.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,817 ✭✭✭b.gud


    I'm not sure we will be missing all of those. We have no match the week after ( :( ) so the players will get a week off then.

    Good point this is kinda unchartered territory for Munster so kinda hard to know how this year will compare to last year but I would imagine that at least the ones who have/will have started all the games would be rested?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭Starie1975


    Who's going to Cardiff? Where's a good spot to go pre/post match?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭ouncer


    Robbo wrote: »
    After the weekend performance and with niyi out for 3 weeks I wouldn't be surprised to see a back line of toh, poolman, Finn, mcsharry, healy, ronaldson, cooney.

    While Treviso may not be the best team in the pro12 last weekend probably saw some of the most fluent back line rugby all season with this combination of players


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭galwaylad14


    ouncer wrote: »
    After the weekend performance and with niyi out for 3 weeks I wouldn't be surprised to see a back line of toh, poolman, Finn, mcsharry, healy, ronaldson, cooney.

    While Treviso may not be the best team in the pro12 last weekend probably saw some of the most fluent back line rugby all season with this combination of players

    Definitley not. Either Muliaina or Leader will start at 15 with the other on the bench. TOH moving to 14


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,965 ✭✭✭connachta


    Definitley not. Either Muliaina or Leader will start at 15 with the other on the bench. TOH moving to 14

    Disagree : Poolman 14, TOH 15, Leader 13
    Mils 23


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,965 ✭✭✭connachta


    12)McShazz
    13) Leader
    14) Poolman
    15) TOH
    23) Mils

    or

    12) Ronaldson
    13) McShazz
    14) Poolman
    15) Leader
    23) Mils/TOH

    or

    12) McSha
    13) Finn
    14) Poolman
    15) Leader
    23) Mils/TOH

    or

    12) McShazz
    13) Poolman
    14) TOH
    15) Leader
    23) Mils/Finn

    which combo would be your choice?;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭ouncer


    connachta wrote: »
    12)McShazz
    13) Leader
    14) Poolman
    15) TOH
    23) Mils

    or

    12) Ronaldson
    13) McShazz
    14) Poolman
    15) Leader
    23) Mils/TOH

    or

    12) McSha
    13) Finn
    14) Poolman
    15) Leader
    23) Mils/TOH

    or

    12) McShazz
    13) Poolman
    14) TOH
    15) Leader
    23) Mils/Finn

    which combo would be your choice?;)

    Would seem the combos don't include Finn which I think is strange. I thought he was a breath of fresh air in the centre. In fact I thought he did great. Ah feic it, what would I know, or is my opinion so hugely grating on folks they would wish anything other than what I suggest☺


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,300 ✭✭✭freyners


    connachta wrote: »
    12)McShazz
    13) Leader
    14) Poolman
    15) TOH
    23) Mils

    or

    12) Ronaldson
    13) McShazz
    14) Poolman
    15) Leader
    23) Mils/TOH

    or

    12) McSha
    13) Finn
    14) Poolman
    15) Leader
    23) Mils/TOH

    or

    12) McShazz
    13) Poolman
    14) TOH
    15) Leader
    23) Mils/Finn

    which combo would be your choice?;)

    Healy
    McSharry
    Finn
    Poolman
    Leader

    TOH


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,965 ✭✭✭connachta


    freyners wrote: »
    Healy
    McSharry
    Finn
    Poolman
    Leader

    TOH


    That's combo n°3:D

    (I've never quoted n°11 because Healy is the obvious pick)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭ouncer


    Definitley not. Either Muliaina or Leader will start at 15 with the other on the bench. TOH moving to 14
    Poolman is the obvious choice for 14. Toh has not impressed at 14. So I fail to understand that choice. The only possible reason one might be of that opinion would be because dani needs to be at centre. And game after game he has been poor at centre. So even if conor had played badly last weekend at centre (which he didn't) how would it improve things having toh playing badly on the wing and dani playing badly in the centre


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,965 ✭✭✭connachta


    ouncer wrote: »
    Poolman is the obvious choice for 14. Toh has not impressed at 14. So I fail to understand that choice. The only possible reason one might be of that opinion would be because dani needs to be at centre. And game after game he has been poor at centre. So even if conor had played badly last weekend at centre (which he didn't) how would it improve things having toh playing badly on the wing and dani playing badly in the centre

    Partly agree, but you did'nt give your opinion about Leader at 13 (Poolman winger, Mils/TOH FB)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭ouncer


    connachta wrote: »
    Partly agree, but you did'nt give your opinion about Leader at 13 (Poolman winger, Mils/TOH FB)
    To be honest I go with freyners/my selection. I see darragh as a capable centre as dani is. Neither would be my choice. Conor is a centre by trade and a damm good one at that. You put him in the centre and then your best wingers are where they should be. So then its a toss-up (as I see it) whether you play darragh/mils/toh at full back. On that count I thought tiernan deserves the call as his running was incisive, his ball handling was faultless, his kicking was better than Craig's☺ and even when he was forced to leave the field it was not before he had his mits on the ball in the ruck that ensured Treviso had to give a penalty away for holding on


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭Padkir


    freyners wrote: »
    Healy
    McSharry
    Finn
    Poolman
    Leader

    TOH

    Harsh on TOH given that he put in 2 goods shifts. Maybe he could do with not starting given that he's just coming back from injury, but assuming he's good to go, I'd have either have Leader at 13 or keep Finn at 13 and Leader or Mils at 23.

    Poolman is wasted in the centre so leave him and Healy on the wings anyway as much as possible to continue doing the damage they have been doing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,965 ✭✭✭connachta


    Padkir wrote: »
    Harsh on TOH given that he put in 2 goods shifts. Maybe he could do with not starting given that he's just coming back from injury, but assuming he's good to go, I'd have either have Leader at 13 or keep Finn at 13 and Leader or Mils at 23.

    Poolman is wasted in the centre so leave him and Healy on the wings anyway as much as possible to continue doing the damage they have been doing.

    E-XAC-TLY


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,300 ✭✭✭freyners


    Padkir wrote: »
    Harsh on TOH given that he put in 2 goods shifts. Maybe he could do with not starting given that he's just coming back from injury, but assuming he's good to go, I'd have either have Leader at 13 or keep Finn at 13 and Leader or Mils at 23.

    Poolman is wasted in the centre so leave him and Healy on the wings anyway as much as possible to continue doing the damage they have been doing.

    It is harsh but unfortunately someone has to be left out and leader is a better player in my opinion. we probably will see toh kept on the back of his recent displays and to ease leader back in but i would have leader as our 1st choice 15.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,965 ✭✭✭connachta


    freyners wrote: »
    It is harsh but unfortunately someone has to be left out and leader is a better player in my opinion. we probably will see toh kept on the back of his recent displays and to ease leader back in but i would have leader as our 1st choice 15.

    that's why we maybe should have both of them : Leader 13 TOH 15 or Leader 15 TOH 14. It depends if you prefer picking players on inner qualities and recent good shifts, even out of position OR a less experienced/talended player but used to play where he'll be assigned (Finn)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭ouncer


    freyners wrote: »
    It is harsh but unfortunately someone has to be left out and leader is a better player in my opinion. we probably will see toh kept on the back of his recent displays and to ease leader back in but i would have leader as our 1st choice 15.
    I have only one bet in Cheltenham (which is faugheen). There are no guarantees no matter the sport. Week on week you won't win a game by some 50 points. But when you do then maybe you have found a combination worth trying next time out. Then we will all see if it was a fluke or correct combinations. All selections are week by week. Its one player this week, another next week. I still hope on my selection being the preferred but pats the man


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