191 reg cars...

OldMrBrennan83 · 05-01-2019 7:04pm

Seen my first and only so far earlier. WW reg Fiesta in a lovely dark purpley blue.

Old diesel · 05-01-2019 7:14pm

Skoda Octavia estate - looked like it had a bit of spec on it with the chrome around the windows like most Superbs do plus privacy glass going on

novarock · 05-01-2019 7:24pm

Picked up an Ateca 1.5 TSI, switched from a leon FR that Ive had since 2015. Same horsepower, but lower torque. Can still move though!

Spotted an XC90 today, lovely machine..

greendragon3 · 05-01-2019 8:33pm

not a good start for someone \\\\\\!!!

jellybear · 05-01-2019 8:38pm

Oh that's awful

sunnysoutheast · 05-01-2019 8:49pm

Wonder if they moved from a car which had rear parking sensors? Must be gutting.

Only seen one 191 so far, a Peugeot.

colm_mcm · 05-01-2019 8:51pm

jellybear wrote: »

Oh that's awful

Agreed. Can’t believe people are buying those things.

jellybear · 05-01-2019 8:53pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

Agreed. Can’t believe people are buying those things.

...I shouldn't laugh but, well played!

Duke O Smiley · 05-01-2019 8:54pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

Pure guesswork here:

Well, 89LS2 was a ford Escort 1.6D L in red.
90LS3 Ford Fiesta 1.8D L in red.
91LS1 FordSierra 1.8 TD in green.
92LS7 Ford Fiesta 1.1 C
93LS201 Ford Fiesta 1.1 L
94LS225 Ford Mondeo 1.6 LX
95LS208 Ford Mondeo 1.8 TD LX
96LS210 Ford Escort 1.3 CL

Nice work!

Comhrá · 05-01-2019 9:00pm

Two years ago a friend of mine bought a new 171 white Skoda Superb. He was rear-ended at traffic lights the day he took delivery. 4 K to have it repaired. He traded it the following year...couldn't live with it.

Cantona's Collars · 05-01-2019 9:04pm

I shouldn't laugh but the sister told me she saw a guy in the same colour one as that reverse into a car trying to park in Enniscorthy today.
Brand new and he got out and just walked off,never even looked to see if he'd damaged his 191 or the other car.
Some people shouldn't be allowed drive.

colm_mcm · 05-01-2019 9:09pm

That ecosport apparently rolled down a hill

emfifty · 05-01-2019 9:26pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

That ecosport apparently rolled down a hill

That would be those s**te Ford handbrakes?? ...heard a similar story on a Ford Kuga..car rolled back down a hill. Luckily, it didn't roll over someone..

OldMrBrennan83 · 05-01-2019 9:28pm

emfifty wrote: »

That would be those s**te Ford handbrakes?? ...heard a similar story on a Ford Kuga..car rolled back down a hill. Luckily, it didn't roll over someone..

I'd say it's more a case of anyone who'd buy an Ecosport being at least 80.

Kevin Finnerty · 05-01-2019 9:29pm

Could so easily have been a tiddly eye.

Truckermal · 05-01-2019 9:38pm

greendragon3 wrote: »

not a good start for someone \\\\\\!!!

I was expecting a S4 with that reg....:(

Voodoomelon · 05-01-2019 10:19pm

That's so unfortunate, hopefully the damage isn't too bad, should be repairable and definitely worth doing. Wood is fairly resilient.

freshpopcorn · 05-01-2019 10:37pm

Apparently her automatic handbrake failed. If she didn't hit the pole it would have hit a shop!

Wildly Boaring · 05-01-2019 10:39pm

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Apparently her automatic handbrake failed. If she didn't hit the pole it would have hit a shop!

Failed?

Mine failed too in a passat when they first came out.

Well I put it on wrong and it rolled ever so slowly into a gate

X6.430macman · 05-01-2019 10:44pm

Forgive me for asking a stupid question here but I don't have the privilege of driving a 191 or anything close, do any of the cars here come with the remote start on the key fob to start the engine while outside the vehicle?

freshpopcorn · 05-01-2019 10:44pm

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

Failed?

Mine failed too in a passat when they first came out.

Well I put it on wrong and it rolled ever so slowly into a gate

Yes it failed I'm not sure was the owner at fault or the car!

elperello · 05-01-2019 10:46pm

Work of the devil those handbrakes.
Give me the good old fashioned ones any day of the week.

greendragon3 · 05-01-2019 10:49pm

a neighbour was nearly killed two years ago when her passat electric handbrake failed on an incline just as she was going to get a baby buggy out of the boot , the car rolled over her and pinned her breaking her pelvis and leg , she was lucky that they were able to save her leg . i think she still walks with a limp today , lucky to be alive .

aaakev · 05-01-2019 10:49pm

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Apparently her automatic handbrake failed. If she didn't hit the pole it would have hit a shop!

Was reversing out of a spot in my local centra last week and another car was reversing out too. I said to my missus they have no lights on but turned out there was no one in the car and it rolled down the hill towards the main road! Luckily it hit a lamppost and stopped before it went onto the road. I assumed the electric handbrake failed bit the woman driving it said "oh **** im always doing that". ****in eejit.....

nim1bdeh38l2cw · 05-01-2019 11:04pm

Truckermal wrote: »

I was expecting a S4 with that reg....:(

But, you're in Ireland...

vectra · 05-01-2019 11:04pm

*Failed* is a very strong word guys,
I have had two cars, different models.
VW one was excellent, once it was on auto it was full auto.
In the Ford it is manually activated and can be hit and miss if you apply it properly.
I would guess it was user mistake.

bazz26 · 05-01-2019 11:18pm

The EcoSport doesn't have an electric handbrake, it has a old style levered type hand brake. You can see a similar model below with it:

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And even if it had an electric handbrake there is a very small chance that it would fail on a brand new 191 car so quickly. Electric parking brakes are well tried and tested technology at this stage, yes they were problematic a few years back when the technology was in its infancy, the Passat mentioned being one prime example but I'm on my 4th car with one and none of them ever had any faults. My guess is more likely driver error where the driver doesn't check the parking brake is engaged probably because they are new to it.

I'd also point out that I'm another advocate of leaving your car parked up in gear to avoid it rolling in the event the parking brake electric or manual fails. Good practice imo.

greendragon3 · 05-01-2019 11:33pm

my sister in law currently has a 11' renault scenic with said handbrake and its been on the blink for a while now , the garage can't seem to find any problem with ( typical ) but when she parks for any length of time or stops and engages neutral it comes on automatically like it should but then the handbrake won't release , manually or when you put the shoe down to drive off ( its also has automatic transmission !! ) , only way to release it is to rock it forward and back a few time and knock it off and restart it a few times as well before it releases !! bit of a pain at traffic lights !!!

TheDriver · 06-01-2019 12:22am

I too question when people leave cars in neutral when parked. Secondary handbrake

colm_mcm · 06-01-2019 12:29am

bazz26 wrote: »

The EcoSport doesn't have an electric handbrake, it has a old style levered type hand brake. You can see a similar model below with it:

And even if it had an electric handbrake there is a very small chance that it would fail on a brand new 191 car so quickly. Electric parking brakes are well tried and tested technology at this stage, yes they were problematic a few years back when the technology was in its infancy, the Passat mentioned being one prime example but I'm on my 4th car with one and none of them ever had any faults. My guess is more likely driver error where the driver doesn't check the parking brake is engaged probably because they are new to it.

I'd also point out that I'm another advocate of leaving your car parked up in gear to avoid it rolling in the event the parking brake electric or manual fails. Good practice imo.

Those electronic parking brakes aren’t idiot proof though, I had a Skoda Kodiaq that had been parked and locked roll out a driveway in front of me last year. Mondeo doesn’t auto engage either and with all the beeping cars do when you get out it’s easy to miss.

GustavoFring · 06-01-2019 1:01am

colm_mcm wrote: »

Those electronic parking brakes aren’t idiot proof though, I had a Skoda Kodiaq that had been parked and locked roll out a driveway in front of me last year. Mondeo doesn’t auto engage either and with all the beeping cars do when you get out it’s easy to miss.

With the skoda ones there's an auto hold button you press. I pressed it once and that was it. If you don't press it then the car will roll.

It's a pointless button, it should be on by default but the rolling skoda was someone not setting it right or hitting it off.

colm_mcm · 06-01-2019 10:29am

They’d only just got it. You’d imagine the parking brake would come on when you turn the car off? It does on the Golf, or maybe that’s only because auto hold is on?

darragh o meara · 06-01-2019 1:01pm

My missus’s uncle got a 191 Focus and only realized when he got home that it didn’t have a traditional handbrake, nor could he find it easily. He ended up having to park on the road and go back to the dealer the following morning to get a rundown on how it worked. You would think that if a salesman was handing over a car with a feature that wasn’t in the last one that they’d run through its operation with anyone buying one.

I remember my first Passat with an electric handbrake, so much I didn’t know and had to learn on the fly.. for example it took a while to figure out it would self release on a hill start etc.

NSAman · 06-01-2019 1:30pm

Careful_now! wrote: »

ooops

Do I dare say....what biological sex was driving?

(Ducking)

Careful_now! · 06-01-2019 1:31pm

NSAman wrote: »

Do I dare say....what biological sex was driving?

(Ducking)

I don't know, I didn't take the picture.
It was sent to me

OldMrBrennan83 · 06-01-2019 1:32pm

Careful_now! wrote: »

I don't know, I didn't take the picture.
It was sent to me

It looks familiar...

degsie · 06-01-2019 1:35pm

darragh o meara wrote: »

My missus’s uncle got a 191 Focus and only realized when he got home that it didn’t have a traditional handbrake, nor could he find it easily. He ended up having to park on the road and go back to the dealer

Odd that it wasn't covered in the handbook.

TheDriver · 06-01-2019 1:35pm

Careful_now! wrote: »

ooops

I'd suggest you read the previous page of this thread and all subsequent comments about the incident

Careful_now! · 06-01-2019 1:41pm

TheDriver wrote: »

I'd suggest you read the previous page of this thread and all subsequent comments about the incident

Thanks for that. I have now deleted it

bazz26 · 06-01-2019 2:39pm

I'd doubt there is much in the way of showing how things work done in a busy showroom in January. I'd say it's more a case of take keys and logbook of old car, get signature on sales forms, take payment, bring customer out to new car, handover keys, say goodbye and head back into the next customer - rinse and repeat. Customers who want time to be shown around the functions of the new car on the forecourt are usually the ones complaining about been kept waiting for their new car up to that point so I'd say it's a no win situation for dealers.

Wildly Boaring · 06-01-2019 2:44pm

bazz26 wrote: »

I'd doubt there is much in the way of showing how things work done in a busy showroom in January. I'd say it's more a case of take keys and logbook of old car, get signature on sales forms, take payment, bring customer out to new car, handover keys, say goodbye and head back into the next customer - rinse and repeat. Customers who want time to be shown around the functions of the new car on the forecourt are usually the ones complaining about been kept waiting for their new car up to that point so I'd say it's a no win situation for dealers.

Got a Seat on Friday. They were busy. But he still gave a good 30mins going through car. Good job cus couple functions disabled and they were able to sort straight away

bs2014 · 06-01-2019 2:57pm

All joking aside about handbrakes, few years ago I parked on a hill when in my local swimming pool. 15 mins into my swim I was relaxing in the steam room and lifegaurd came in and goes "do you own the 06 Leon (manual handbrake), yes I replied. Its just rolled down the carpark but luckily someone was walking past and was able to hold the car from rolling further. Lifegaurd took my guys and reparked her but needless to say I didn't do bit of good. I used to never park in gear for fear of hopping in and starting up and conking forward (my old car didnt require clutch to start) I always do now.

On another note, it nearly seems a fact that as soon as you buy a new car you seem more likely to have someone bang your door in a carpark. I've never had many or any close scares when driving but yday I went to test drive a V40. Thank god the salesman was with me cuz when on dual carriageway I glanced down for a second to try the cruisecontrol when a 40 footer on the inside lane decided to just pull out and cut me up, salesman shouted woahhhhh and I jammed on the brakes.

I sound like a terrible driver but actually not!

NSAman · 06-01-2019 3:03pm

bs2014 wrote: »

All joking aside about handbrakes, few years ago I parked on a hill when in my local swimming pool. 15 mins into my swim I was relaxing in the steam room and lifegaurd came in and goes "do you own the 06 Leon (manual handbrake), yes I replied. Its just rolled down the carpark but luckily someone was walking past and was able to hold the car from rolling further. Lifegaurd took my guys and reparked her but needless to say I didn't do bit of good. I used to never park in gear for fear of hopping in and starting up and conking forward (my old car didnt require clutch to start) I always do now.

On another note, it nearly seems a fact that as soon as you buy a new car you seem more likely to have someone bang your door in a carpark. I've never had many or any close scares when driving but yday I went to test drive a V40. Thank god the salesman was with me cuz when on dual carriageway I glanced down for a second to try the cruisecontrol when a 40 footer on the inside lane decided to just pull out and cut me up, salesman shouted woahhhhh and I jammed on the brakes.

I sound like a terrible driver but actually not!

Happened to me yesterday on M7, difference was that I was past the back of his trailer. Blew the hell out of him as he continued, after braking madly. How these morons dont know a car is there is beyond me.

Atlantic Dawn · 06-01-2019 3:59pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Not seen a single one yet, I'd expect to see at least 5 tomorrow when people take their steeds around for a bit of getting to know you driving.

And so it happened, saw my first 191 this morning, a Peugeot 3008, looked very premium.

06-01-2019 5:23pm

TheDriver wrote: »

I too question when people leave cars in neutral when parked. Secondary handbrake

With automatics/hybrids etc this is not an option. I have a hybrid with a foot operated parking brake. It has hill hold for the purpose of hill starts.

ewj1978 · 06-01-2019 5:51pm

Skoda Kodiak 191 plate blew past me this morning.
My first thought, nice car.
Second thought, you'll not have it long doing 140+ in a 100 zone.

Eric Cartman · 06-01-2019 6:36pm

Gael23 wrote: »

At least base spec on the new focus isn’t so bad

but it doesnt have a cd player for audio books.

Eric Cartman · 06-01-2019 6:38pm

X6.430macman wrote: »

Forgive me for asking a stupid question here but I don't have the privilege of driving a 191 or anything close, do any of the cars here come with the remote start on the key fob to start the engine while outside the vehicle?

thats not fitted as a factory option in many cars, usually after market alarms do it for some reason. I think the new 5 and 7 series are the only ones I know of with it.

A lot of high end diesel cars have parking heaters that allow you to remotely turn on the heating though.

Eric Cartman · 06-01-2019 6:44pm

has anyone seen anything interesting as in >250 lovely combustion fuelled horses yet ?

Duke O Smiley · 06-01-2019 6:49pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

has anyone seen anything interesting as in >250 lovely combustion fuelled horses yet ?

Theres a 191 Bentayga floating around the south side apparently

191 reg cars...

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