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Catastrophic condition of roads in Cork city (pic heavy thread)

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Diabhalta wrote: »
    Cork on the rise

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    Considering some of the roads around my way, those pictures look fantastic. Dreamy even...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭chalkitdown1


    Was out in Little Island last night and saw that Lower Glanmire Road and Horgan's quay are finally being resurfaced. This has been YEARS coming. About bloody time too as these two roads in and out of the city were in apalling condition.

    Looked like they were doing something on Anderson's Quay outside Jury's as well on my way back home. That road appeared to be falling into the river.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,411 ✭✭✭ofcork


    They had to be done after Irish water were finished.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    so...

    new surface on Harbour View road in the north side..

    ...the area in the circle is way lower than the rest of the road and the manhole cover is sticking out.

    So basically they wanted to make it better but they made it worse. It's ridiculous.

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    can't really see it on the picture but you can DEFINITELY feel it when you drive over... must be very comfortable while you're sitting upstairs in the double decker.

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    and the road surface itself isn't the best either... looks like a cheap job to me.

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    honestly I think it should be Germans or Japanese resurfacing the roads, it's the only way to make sure it's done properly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    anybody knows when those houses on Harbour View road will be finished? That pedestrian crossing right outside them is absolutely horrible at this stage... :confused::confused::confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    oh and Grand parade between that pedestrian crossing and Washington street is a total joke at this stage... gives Cork city this nice dumpesque look...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    Two cones on top of each other in the middle of the road...

    This place is such a dump! What a s--thole.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,474 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Never one prone to exaggeration Diabhalta...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,170 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    TheChizler wrote: »
    Never one prone to exaggeration Diabhalta...

    If you were to classify a city based on the state of its roads, Cork indeed would be a Shít hole.

    Many other cities/towns also in fairness.

    I've looked at many of the pics in this thread and a lot of them are recently tarmacked roads. Shocking that the we still dont have either the workers to do the work properly or that we use substandard tarmac, or both.

    Compare our roads to France or Spain or even England. Why are ours so much worse?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Goodbye suspension, Hello sewer rats

    FG and their 3rd world Ireland


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Goodbye suspension, Hello sewer rats

    Need to change the council road service,this bloody half arsed attempt at road repair isn't fit for purpose,lived In the 6 counties for years,no bloody comparison+ it's not all about budget it's about work ethic and mismanagement


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    Happy bumpy christmas and happy new year (also bumpy) from Cork Dump City council and the government of Ireland... (Insert middle finger here)...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    I read this article the other day

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    and I'm just curious how many millions will the delerict road network in Cork city get.

    Place is a kip.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    daunt's square, forever in bits.

    They will go back and fix it. Then they will do it again two three months later... and again ... and again ... and again...

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    unbelievable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


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    I don't get this, the road goes slightly up a bit and then there's a drop down... why?

    that building could do with some fresh paint too... or nicer graffiti, or both.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    Millions pouring to cork to fix the roads... I'm sure North Mall is first on the list... right? First thing in January...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    Pearse square in Ballyphehane... straight outta the 70's

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    I don't drive on Blarney street very often but when I do it's something... really amazing experience... thanks Cork dump city council...

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    really? Is this gonna be here forever???

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    IIRC this road in Churchfield has been resurfaced like 5-6 years ago? I'm no expert but resurfaced roads should last decades, not years...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    I guess they don't work until like 6th January so we will have to wait.. Not seeing this on a bicycle or motorbike you're in some serious trouble..

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    Aesthetically beautiful repair, makes Cork city look very presentable and pretty. Nice. Thank you city council, you're doing a great job.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    what it's like to drive in Cork on daily basis

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    I couldn't stop to take a photo but there is a real crater of a pothole outside kellihers electrical on Tramore Road. It's been filled in repeatedly but never really fixed. Its one of the worst ones I've seen around the city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    I always thought the philosophy in Ireland when something breaks, is to replace and not repair.

    for example when my alarm in my car started giving trouble I went to two places in cork to have it fixed, they both told me I'm wasting my time and the best thing to do is to replace the whole alarm system... I guess they either didn't want to do it, or didn't know how to fix it.

    So why isn't this philosophy applied to the roads too??? If it's in bits why repairing it and wasting money going back fixing it over nad over again? Wouldn't it be better to get rid of it and just resurface it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭landcrzr


    Just an observation but the majority of photos are of trench reinstatements. This is work usually undertaken by third parties (ESB, eir, Irish water etc) and not the council.
    It is done under license from the council but the majority simply don't have the resources to manage the process properly, and that's assuming a license was applied for...
    Funding for road resurfacing comes from central government for the most part, then from rates and local property tax. Local TDs will be calling to your door soon with the election coming up, so you can lobby them or lobby your local councillor to increase either rates or lpt or both.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    landcrzr wrote: »
    Just an observation but the majority of photos are of trench reinstatements. This is work usually undertaken by third parties (ESB, eir, Irish water etc) and not the council.
    It is done under license from the council but the majority simply don't have the resources to manage the process properly, and that's assuming a license was applied for...
    Funding for road resurfacing comes from central government for the most part, then from rates and local property tax. Local TDs will be calling to your door soon with the election coming up, so you can lobby them or lobby your local councillor to increase either rates or lpt or both.


    well the council isn't exactly doing a lot to make sure this is done properly. There should be a certain procedure that will overlook the quality of the work done. Seems to me that they don't care so it is kinda their fault too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    parts of the North Ring roads need resurfacing badly... this bit is horrible. Will it ever be done? I doubt it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    I saw a guy in a new Mercedes hitting this at full speed, he then went back and took a picture...

    brutal.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    this appeared like three weeks ago in Churchfield... it's way above the rest of the road and after only three weeks it's falling apart.

    How isn't this checked by somebody from the council that the work has been done properly??

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    this pothole filled about a week ago... already below the level of the road.

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    "repaired" also a week ago. Total garbage, this whole thing needs to go because this is not the solution. Resurfacing the whole area solves the problem.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    it's in this state for like three years at least... crazy going over this at 50km/h ... will this ever be fixed? probably not by the looks of it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    this still fascinates me... few months after resurfacing, it sunk and this is how they fixed it... Third world country s**thole type of repair.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    Will cork look presentable and in "usable" condition when it comes to roads in 5-10 years? Not a hope. Absolutely not. Roads in Cork city are like Bus Éireann ... it's a lost cause... Forever a kip.

    No matter where I go, southside, northside or city center I keep slaloming around something on the road... It's a challenge. I always have to be aware and watch the road... Horrible place, absolute s**thole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭landcrzr


    Diabhalta wrote: »
    well the council isn't exactly doing a lot to make sure this is done properly. There should be a certain procedure that will overlook the quality of the work done. Seems to me that they don't care so it is kinda their fault too.

    As I said;
    It is done under license from the council but the majority simply don't have the resources to manage the process properly, and that's assuming a license was applied for...
    Funding for road resurfacing comes from central government for the most part, then from rates and local property tax. Local TDs will be calling to your door soon with the election coming up, so you can lobby them or lobby your local councillor to increase either rates or lpt or both.

    So did you ask any canvassers or TD's for more funding for the roads in your area?


  • Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭Capra


    Diabhalta wrote: »
    Will cork look presentable and in "usable" condition when it comes to roads in 5-10 years? Not a hope. Absolutely not. Roads in Cork city are like Bus Éireann ... it's a lost cause... Forever a kip.

    No matter where I go, southside, northside or city center I keep slaloming around something on the road... It's a challenge. I always have to be aware and watch the road... Horrible place, absolute s**thole.

    First time in this thread but be thankful you aren't out in cork county. Road conditions are far worse and you hit holes at far greater speed doing much more damage. The road outside our house is constantly flooded and has craters about 8 inches deep hidden in the water. The N73 nearby also is less than the width of two trucks and it is one of the busiest roads in the area with an above average rate of HGV traffic. Rocks are regularly pulled down off the ditch and into the path of cars. This causes people to swerve at speed towards other oncoming traffic to avoid it. And it's been this way for years but the council will not do anything about it despite lots of land being CPO'd years ago. It is incredibly dangerous.

    Is there anything people can do?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    landcrzr wrote: »
    As I said;
    It is done under license from the council but the majority simply don't have the resources to manage the process properly, and that's assuming a license was applied for...
    Funding for road resurfacing comes from central government for the most part, then from rates and local property tax.

    So did you ask any canvassers or TD's for more funding for the roads in your area?

    to be honest I don't really care where the problem is...

    It's like when you buy a new car and it turns out there's something wrong due to bad design/materials/technology used... You don't go after the reasons why it's like that. All you know you wasted money on something that's bad. And you're pissed off.. you could have bought a different car but it's late.

    Same with horrible roads in Cork. I look at my payslip and see all the deductions, then I drive to work so they can deduct the money and I am slaloming the whole time I drive there. I don't care what's causing this along the way, they are all obviously a bunch of inbred imbeciles. All I see is totally destroyed roads and there is nothing I can do.

    I emailed two TD's last summer, got no reply whatsoever. I gave up. It seems to me that there is only one solution to this problem, but you need more people to do this. Water charges have been defeated, is it possible to get thousands of people to protest against the sh**y roads in cork? I have no idea...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    it seems to me that the only solution (for me personally) is to get rid of the passenger car and get a Baja truck... not practical at all, so some Nissan Patrol will have to do.. something with big wheels and a bigger suspension (with more travel) ...



    or get a Hummer and accidentaly back up into the city hall... maybe they would wake up and finally do something. What a waste of oxygen they are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    ...so less than two weeks later I am looking at this.

    same as before... no change whatsoever... the whole area is just bad and needs to be resurfaced. Coming back every two weeks fixing it isn't a solution obviously. Like I really don't get this... how hard it is for them to understand that they are wasting their time and money doing stupid stuff like this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    end of Sunday's well road resurfaced? Nice! North Mall completely resurfaced? Nice! That bit outside English Market on Grand parade resurfaced? NICE!!!

    https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/cork-roads-60m-upgrade-2020-17452369


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 803 ✭✭✭woohoo!!!


    Capra wrote: »
    First time in this thread but be thankful you aren't out in cork county. Road conditions are far worse and you hit holes at far greater speed doing much more damage. The road outside our house is constantly flooded and has craters about 8 inches deep hidden in the water. The N73 nearby also is less than the width of two trucks and it is one of the busiest roads in the area with an above average rate of HGV traffic. Rocks are regularly pulled down off the ditch and into the path of cars. This causes people to swerve at speed towards other oncoming traffic to avoid it. And it's been this way for years but the council will not do anything about it despite lots of land being CPO'd years ago. It is incredibly dangerous.

    Is there anything people can do?
    I think they're (councils in general) are doing risk assessments of paths and roads so as to reduce the level of them being successfully sued. Worth a shot maybe.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭brimeh


    woohoo!!! wrote: »
    I think they're (councils in general) are doing risk assessments of paths and roads so as to reduce the level of them being successfully sued. Worth a shot maybe.

    Is it just that people won't go to the lengths to sue them?

    If anyone's ever out West Cork way I've never seen roads so bad. And the councils idea of fixing potholes is dumping tarmac into them and speeding off. I need to take some photos for this thread and get it off my chest!


  • Registered Users Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Peter T


    Roads all over the city and county are in absolute bits. Its something I've paid more attention to lately as I'm doing more mileage. Its either sub standard repairs or problems with the quality of patchwork done after laying services in towns. Horrendous tripe to cycle on too


  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭brimeh


    Peter T wrote: »
    Roads all over the city and county are in absolute bits. Its something I've paid more attention to lately as I'm doing more mileage. Its either sub standard repairs or problems with the quality of patchwork done after laying services in towns. Horrendous tripe to cycle on too

    No excuse for most of it. I can understand it around some towns out this way like Bandon and Clonakilty for the moment due to flood works but you can nearly guarantee that it’ll all be patched up when finished rather than completely resurfaced as it should be.

    I do a fair few miles around the city as well and they’re no better there. Mad to drive out east though and there are velvety smooth roads out there unlike anywhere I’ve seen in Cork.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭corks finest


    brimeh wrote: »
    No excuse for most of it. I can understand it around some towns out this way like Bandon and Clonakilty for the moment due to flood works but you can nearly guarantee that it’ll all be patched up when finished rather than completely resurfaced as it should be.

    I do a fair few miles around the city as well and they’re no better there. Mad to drive out east though and there are velvety smooth roads out there unlike anywhere I’ve seen in Cork.

    Lads said it before,lived all over including eastern Europe,most countries are better than us ref roads, we're after going backwards,the road service in the 6 counties would shame our wasters,both workers and management, especially management,a pot hole gets fixed in Derry ( lived there 20 yrs) never comes back NEVER,espeically on the motorways,
    main roads.
    Around housing estates they'd put our clowns to bed, difference being civil servants can get sacked,management can get moved/ sacked/ demoted unlike our jobs for the boys/life down here,but the most important point I'm trying to make is - they have pride in their work ,no shovel patting crap up there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    fixed, already sinking again after like 3 days.. neverending story really.

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    this whole area obviously requires resurfacing, that's kinda obvious even to totally stupid people.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    congratulations, it's a bump! so basically a reversed pothole and because you don't want to drive over it, you go around it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    thousands of cars use this road on daily basis. 202 bus route...

    I wonder if they took Tim Cook for a spin on this road when he was here recently visiting Apple. They probably pulled down the blinds in them Cadillac Escalades to make sure he can't see anything.

    Place looks like a warzone, what a disgrace.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    Churchfield industrial estate...

    People's republic of destroyed Cork.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Diabhalta wrote: »
    Churchfield industrial estate...

    People's republic of destroyed Cork.

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    Awful


  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭brimeh


    Lads said it before,lived all over including eastern Europe,most countries are better than us ref roads, we're after going backwards,the road service in the 6 counties would shame our wasters,both workers and management, especially management,a pot hole gets fixed in Derry ( lived there 20 yrs) never comes back NEVER,espeically on the motorways,
    main roads.
    Around housing estates they'd put our clowns to bed, difference being civil servants can get sacked,management can get moved/ sacked/ demoted unlike our jobs for the boys/life down here,but the most important point I'm trying to make is - they have pride in their work ,no shovel patting crap up there

    Worst part is, they must have a 'proper' crew that do a good job in comparison to the normal workers.

    I live on a road that the West Cork Rally will be going past in a few weeks and there's been potholes repaired in the last week or so both on a section of road where the rally cars will go and a road directly off the course. There's a completely different job done on the road where the rally goes. Will go out and take some photos tomorrow. Mindblowing difference between the 2.


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