Dublin's 24h bus services

LastStop · 28-05-2019 11:24pm

GM228 wrote: »

I recall something from the NTA a few years ago where they said that Nitelink would start accepting FTP sometime in the future, but both DB and the Dept. of Social Welfare state FTP is not accepted on Nitelink.

FTP has been accepted on N/Links for years. If a driver refuses you it's because they don't know their job.

Also DB won't have a shortage of volunteers for the 24hr service plus the union have agreed terms already.. so that's all tied off.

Qrt · 29-05-2019 12:32am

LastStop wrote: »

FTP has been accepted on N/Links for years. If a driver refuses you it's because they don't know their job.

Best thing to do is to use the right-hand validator, like we should all be using!

L1011 · 29-05-2019 9:03am

john boye wrote: »

Wouldn't fancy being the poor driver having to explain that to the sozzled revellers when that comes in!

Why? It'll be cheaper

john boye · 29-05-2019 11:53am

L1011 wrote: »

Why? It'll be cheaper

Was just joking about the general confusion of it when they're boarding after a few, wasn't saying they'll be angry over it.

Jamie2k9 · 29-05-2019 1:23pm

Qrt wrote: »

Best thing to do is to use the right-hand validator, like we should all be using!

I would agree until i discovered recently there is an element of fraud taking place with these cards.

devnull · 29-05-2019 1:27pm

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

I would agree until i discovered recently there is an element of fraud taking place with these cards.

What kind of fraud?

Kermit.de.frog · 29-05-2019 1:28pm

Wouldn't like to be a bus driver on such an all night route through Dublin city center at 3 am on a Thurs/Fri/Sat (or any night for that matter)!

I'd say that would be a bloody awful experience.

L1011 · 29-05-2019 1:29pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Wouldn't like to be a bus driver on such an all night route through Dublin city center at 3 am on a Thurs/Fri/Sat (or any night for that matter)!

I'd say that would be a bloody awful experience.

We already have routes in the city centre at 3am on Friday and Saturday nights; and have had them Monday-Thursday in the past (when there were more nightclubs and longer opening)

Jamie2k9 · 29-05-2019 1:30pm

devnull wrote: »

What kind of fraud?

People using cards belong to others, no checks in place. In one particular case x person pays for train to Heuston and takes the bus instead of Luas because they are using mothers pass.....

Kermit.de.frog · 29-05-2019 1:34pm

L1011 wrote: »

We already have routes in the city centre at 3am on Friday and Saturday nights; and have had them Monday-Thursday in the past (when there were more nightclubs and longer opening)

Yes, but I still wouldn't like to be the bus driver.

To say the city center is anarchic at that time on the weekends is an understatement.

cgcsb · 29-05-2019 1:36pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Yes, but I still wouldn't like to be the bus driver.

To say the city center is anarchic at that time on the weekends is an understatement.

Seems normal enough to me most Friday and Saturday nights. The night of Paddy's Day, Pride etc. can be a bit messy alright. Not really any different to the day, just quieter.

Kermit.de.frog · 29-05-2019 1:44pm

We accept it as "normal" in Dublin.

That's our standard for our city.

But then when you add in the lack of proper adequate policing and no transport police either i'm not convinced that we should introduce things we shouldn't have here given our standards and what is tolerated.

That's why i'm against a barrier free metro for example.

cgcsb · 29-05-2019 1:46pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

We accept it as "normal" in Dublin.

That's our standard for our city.

But then when you add in the lack of proper adequate policing and no transport police either i'm not convinced that we should introduce things we shouldn't have given our standards and what is tolerated.

I say normal, it's actually quite pleasant, all the junkies and beggers have generally cleared off to their hostels by that time. There's still a good buzz, and sometimes you even see a garda, I guess sitting in the station falsifying things at that hour aint fun.

Kermit.de.frog · 29-05-2019 1:51pm

Whenever I am in town at that hour Fri/Sat the only guard I see anywhere occasionally would be on O'Connell St or a couple of vans in Temple bar.

Maybe the route to Swords will be fine.

Still would not want to be the bus driver.

bk · 29-05-2019 1:52pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Yes, but I still wouldn't like to be the bus driver.

To say the city center is anarchic at that time on the weekends is an understatement.

I think it is important to stress that we already have a "drink link" service, the Nitelink.

This is a different type of service. I'm sure there will be some drunks on it. But mostly this will be a new service for all the people of our city who work shift work. Nurses and doctors working shifts in our Hospitals, airport and airline staff heading to the airport, people working as support in call centers, etc. etc.

All those people deserve to have high quality public transport, the same as the rest of us.

I don't expect that there will be too many drunks on these buses at 4:30 on a Tuesday morning.

thomasj · 29-05-2019 1:58pm

i was told by a driver they're talking about Christmas for the 39s to go 24 hours but will depend on the 41s obviously.

cgcsb · 29-05-2019 2:15pm

thomasj wrote: »

i was told by a driver they're talking about Christmas for the 39s to go 24 hours but will depend on the 41s obviously.

oh, to be free of taxis permanently

Jamie2k9 · 29-05-2019 3:43pm

thomasj wrote: »

i was told by a driver they're talking about Christmas for the 39s to go 24 hours but will depend on the 41s obviously.

Didn't give a year then

thomasj · 29-05-2019 4:53pm

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Didn't give a year then

should've made sure!

thomasj · 29-05-2019 4:58pm

So this bank holiday Sunday, despite there been events on, there is no Nitelink on that night.

But... Irish rail are deferring their last trains due to events on that night, so Maynooth trains will run later than the last bus (not by much but still), this time last year last train was before 9pm. what a difference a year makes!

LastStop · 29-05-2019 5:00pm

thomasj wrote: »

i was told by a driver they're talking about Christmas for the 39s to go 24 hours but will depend on the 41s obviously.

if the 41 trials the 24hr service "later" this year, it won't give much time to actually see how it goes before bringing on the 39s also.

41s, 15s, 39s should all be on before xmas if DB management has any sense

Stephen15 · 29-05-2019 5:41pm

thomasj wrote: »

i was told by a driver they're talking about Christmas for the 39s to go 24 hours but will depend on the 41s obviously.

Which 39 would that be? I'd imagine the 39a would be the most logical as it's cross city personally I think it would be better if they merged the 39a and 46a as a single night bus running Ongar to DL as this would mean it would continue along the N11 and not just finishing in UCD. Heard rumours that the 145 and 66 will be made 24 hours too.

thomasj · 29-05-2019 5:55pm

Stephen15 wrote: »

Which 39 would that be? I'd imagine the 39a would be the most logical as it's cross city personally I think it would be better if they merged the 39a and 46a as a single night bus running Ongar to DL as this would mean it would continue along the N11 and not just finishing in UCD. Heard rumours that the 145 and 66 will be made 24 hours too.

it will be more than likely a "plain 39" ie a 39 i was told. This makes sense as the 39N covers good ground. It runs through Castleknock, Blanchardstown village and Clonsilla, it covers more ground than the 39 and its usually faster than the 39A, given the time of night its no surprise. So i would say it will be a 39.

As for the Southside terminus, it wont be Belfield, so I'd imagine it will be either Burlington Road or a merger with the 46A or 145.

Qrt · 29-05-2019 6:54pm

They’ve enough trouble trying to get a bus to serve Belfield after 21:00, nevermind a 24-Hour Service!

n!ghtmancometh · 29-05-2019 11:05pm

thomasj wrote: »

So this bank holiday Sunday, despite there been events on, there is no Nitelink on that night.

But... Irish rail are deferring their last trains due to events on that night, so Maynooth trains will run later than the last bus (not by much but still), this time last year last train was before 9pm. what a difference a year makes!

I'd imagine they'd have to pay drivers a Sunday premium + OT to work into early hours of BH Monday, probably not viable commercially. Pity Go Ahead can't take over few of the NL routes when DB aren't arsed putting on a service. Thursday & BH Sunday nights for a start.

MOH · 30-05-2019 2:32pm

thomasj wrote: »

So this bank holiday Sunday, despite there been events on, there is no Nitelink on that night.

But... Irish rail are deferring their last trains due to events on that night, so Maynooth trains will run later than the last bus (not by much but still), this time last year last train was before 9pm. what a difference a year makes!

There haven't been BH Sunday Nitelinks for years. If ever - I have a vague idea that even when we had expanded Nitelink during the week that was still an issue

Stephen15 · 30-05-2019 2:52pm

They ran nitelinks on Paddy's night which was a Sunday earlier this year but not on the May BH Sunday and now the June BH I can understand Easter Sunday but there should be nitelinks running any regular BH Sunday.

Jamie2k9 · 16-09-2019 9:37pm

Mid September and still nothing. Will by "end of year" start for 41 happen??

_Kaiser_ · 16-09-2019 9:47pm

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Mid September and still nothing. Will by "end of year" start for 41 happen??

I heard something briefly on the radio the other day that it had been postponed alright.. no definite date given.

devnull · 16-09-2019 11:06pm

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

I heard something briefly on the radio the other day that it had been postponed alright.. no definite date given.

The NBRU have set their stall out recently that they will allow no new routes to be introduced and existing routes will not have their service extended until sanitation facilities provided at the terminus of cross-city bus routes.

May well be linked to this.

thomasj · 16-09-2019 11:13pm

Driver told me the other night plans are afoot to extend last departures to 00.30hrs

Amirani · 16-09-2019 11:14pm

thomasj wrote: »

Driver told me the other night plans are afoot to extend last departures to 00.30hrs

That would be very welcome!

Jamie2k9 · 16-09-2019 11:15pm

devnull wrote: »

The NBRU have set their stall out recently that they will allow no new routes to be introduced and existing routes will not have their service extended until sanitation facilities provided at the terminus of cross-city bus routes.

May well be linked to this.

Taught the NBRU would be behind the disruption though surprised they have not used the "anti social behavior" excuse.

If only the NTA would contract Go-Ahead to provide a service between 00.00-06.00...

L1011 · 17-09-2019 10:56am

devnull wrote: »

The NBRU have set their stall out recently that they will allow no new routes to be introduced and existing routes will not have their service extended until sanitation facilities provided at the terminus of cross-city bus routes.

May well be linked to this.

Ick, I'm agreeing with the NBRU on something

transdev/TII had to provide facilities at The Point in the past for the same reasons, nowhere else to go at the time. It's normal.

CatInABox · 17-09-2019 11:11am

L1011 wrote: »

Ick, I'm agreeing with the NBRU on something

transdev/TII had to provide facilities at The Point in the past for the same reasons, nowhere else to go at the time. It's normal.

Yes, odd to be on their side in this. Drivers clearly need facilities at the ends of their routes, at least in some cases.

punisher5112 · 17-09-2019 11:13am

CatInABox wrote: »

Yes, odd to be on there side in this. Drivers clearly need facilities at the ends of their routes, at least in some cases.

I've to go up to 7 hours without...

Muller1991 · 17-09-2019 11:25am

punisher5112 wrote: »

I've to go up to 7 hours without...

I know what its like , I've heard some stories about Toilet facilities or lack there off from a few family members that work for DB and BE. Is the Pokey little canteen available to use in the square still around ? Apart from that and earl place I cant think of anywhere else there is for drivers to relieve themselves ( not being vulgar).

Surely there has to be some sort of a plan in place if a driver needs a tinkle.

Lord Glentoran · 17-09-2019 11:29am

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

I see, was aware of the Airlink. This route should be running until 02.00 in summer and terminated in the city centre instead of Heuston (after existing hours). The idea they couldn't make money on it is complete nonsense.

Lack of bus connections early morning means other operators allow illegal standing on coaches!

Does the Airlink still take a twisty turny route through the south inner city before it meanders to Heuston? Last time I took it I swore I’d get off at the Point the next time.

Muller1991 · 17-09-2019 11:58am

Lord Glentoran wrote: »

Does the Airlink still take a twisty turny route through the south inner city before it meanders to Heuston? Last time I took it I swore I’d get off at the Point the next time.

Yep comes in through the port tunnel and then goes towards:

Point Village & 3Arena, North Wall Quay (Central Bank), The Convention Center Dublin, Irish Financial Services Center (IFSC), Commons Street, Talbot Street; The Central Bus Station (Busras), Connolly Rail Station, Gardiner Street, Cathal Brugha Street, O'Connell Street, College Green & Temple Bar, Christ Church Cathedral, High Street, Usher's Quay and Heuston Rail Station.

punisher5112 · 17-09-2019 12:38pm

Muller1991 wrote: »

I know what its like , I've heard some stories about Toilet facilities or lack there off from a few family members that work for DB and BE. Is the Pokey little canteen available to use in the square still around ? Apart from that and earl place I cant think of anywhere else there is for drivers to relieve themselves ( not being vulgar).

Surely there has to be some sort of a plan in place if a driver needs a tinkle.

Tallaght would still have that, Dun Laoghaire, Bray Train station, 145 Heuston and likes of 46a has both ends as can use the bus garage just around the corner.
7 would have summer hill garage.

Many many routes have absolutely nothing at either end and nowhere near anything.

Basically the it plan is you can go to nearest garage and that isn't always possible as one wouldn't make it.

It's tough.

Muller1991 · 17-09-2019 1:17pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Tallaght would still have that, Dun Laoghaire, Bray Train station, 145 Heuston and likes of 46a has both ends as can use the bus garage just around the corner.
7 would have summer hill garage.

Many many routes have absolutely nothing at either end and nowhere near anything.

Basically the it plan is you can go to nearest garage and that isn't always possible as one wouldn't make it.

It's tough.

Yea I can imagine it must be tough for drivers on the likes of the longer routes such as the 44's 65 and even the cross citys, I wouldnt fancy being a driver on the 13's 15's 27s or the 40s if thats the case.

StreetLight · 17-09-2019 1:31pm

Muller1991 wrote: »

Yep comes in through the port tunnel and then goes towards:

Point Village & 3Arena, North Wall Quay (Central Bank), The Convention Center Dublin, Irish Financial Services Center (IFSC), Commons Street, Talbot Street; The Central Bus Station (Busras), Connolly Rail Station, Gardiner Street, Cathal Brugha Street, O'Connell Street, College Green & Temple Bar, Christ Church Cathedral, High Street, Usher's Quay and Heuston Rail Station.

The 747 has operating along the Quays for the past few weeks. I don't know if it will return to Dame Street. It shouldn't. For a premium express service, it leaves a lot to be desired.

punisher5112 · 17-09-2019 4:47pm

Muller1991 wrote: »

Yea I can imagine it must be tough for drivers on the likes of the longer routes such as the 44's 65 and even the cross citys, I wouldnt fancy being a driver on the 13's 15's 27s or the 40s if thats the case.

44 has the helix at least if open.

john boye · 17-09-2019 5:57pm

StreetLight wrote: »

The 747 has operating along the Quays for the past few weeks. I don't know if it will return to Dame Street. It shouldn't. For a premium express service, it leaves a lot to be desired.

What's the reason for that change? The news article on it on the DB site says it's only until October but it doesn't say why.

Lord Glentoran · 17-09-2019 10:11pm

Muller1991 wrote: »

Yep comes in through the port tunnel and then goes towards:

Point Village & 3Arena, North Wall Quay (Central Bank), The Convention Center Dublin, Irish Financial Services Center (IFSC), Commons Street, Talbot Street; The Central Bus Station (Busras), Connolly Rail Station, Gardiner Street, Cathal Brugha Street, O'Connell Street, College Green & Temple Bar, Christ Church Cathedral, High Street, Usher's Quay and Heuston Rail Station.

Thanks, if it does revert to that, definitely getting off at The Point the next time.

Qrt · 17-09-2019 10:31pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Tallaght would still have that, Dun Laoghaire, Bray Train station, 145 Heuston and likes of 46a has both ends as can use the bus garage just around the corner.
7 would have summer hill garage.

Many many routes have absolutely nothing at either end and nowhere near anything.

Basically the it plan is you can go to nearest garage and that isn't always possible as one wouldn't make it.

It's tough.

The canteen place at The Square has been closed for a long while. Drivers have to go all the way into the centre to have a slash. It’s actually disgusting the lack of respect drivers are shown in this regard, and I’d fully support them if they decided to go on strike.

punisher5112 · 17-09-2019 10:39pm

Qrt wrote: »

The canteen place at The Square has been closed for a long while. Drivers have to go all the way into the centre to have a slash. It’s actually disgusting the lack of respect drivers are shown in this regard, and I’d fully support them if they decided to go on strike.

I wasn't aware of this, I was told it was still in order...

p_haugh · 18-09-2019 12:48am

punisher5112 wrote: »

44 has the helix at least if open.

They also have the Student Centre which is open later. Often see some drivers there after grabbing a coffee in the shop.

Peregrine · 18-09-2019 12:52am

p_haugh wrote: »

They also have the Student Centre which is open later. Often see some drivers there after grabbing a coffee in the shop.

Yes, the shop is usually open until 10pm.

Qrt · 18-09-2019 1:17am

punisher5112 wrote: »

I wasn't aware of this, I was told it was still in order...

I assume you’re on about the old O’Brien’s yea? The octagon thingy?

Dublin's 24h bus services

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