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Louise O'Neill on manned mission to Mars: "Why not go to Venus?" (MOD Warning post 1)

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  • #52
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,316 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    jackofalltrades wrote: »
    The Examiner has a readership of close to 250,000.
    Her show on RTE got a prime time slot AFAIR.
    If all she had was a 1,000 followers on twitter I'd agree with the "ignore her and she'll go away" strategy.
    But she's a bit bigger than that at this stage.

    And the iona institute get articles in the Irish times regular enough. Yet there's no threads about Brenda O'Brien that go on for hundreds of pages.

    Strangely enough, I manage to ignore them most of the time.


  • #53
    Diana Warm Litter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Diana Warm Litter


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Funnily, the vast majority of the time it's men that share her opinion.

    They’re the ones you’d have to watch out for , the creepy male ‘feminist’.... never trust a fella who claims that ....

    She’s essentially Katie Hopkins on the opposite end of the spectrum (LON is more extreme left) ... but she’s not as smart (articles are poorly written and opinions and tweets are like a rambling transition year student) and very hypocritical in her opinions


  • #54
    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,819 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I think the person in the book shop was really trying to wind her up because they put her in the fiction section when she was doing a book signing.

    12366245_998526950204585_474991142708237830_n.jpg?oh=36e87260468f96fbf202ffd47e0853ec&oe=5A9471D4


  • #55
    GMSA
    Registered Users Posts: 281 ✭✭GMSA


    Ralf and Florian wrote: »
    Asks her Twitter followers to do her debating for her in relation to a question asked of her on Instagram about the gender pay gap. "I'm too tired to murder him right now, any takers?" IE I don't have the intellectual capacity to debate or back up my statements.

    https://twitter.com/oneilllo/status/928953179370328064

    Dangerous talk going on there by her. Expressing an intent to murder somebody on social media and inciting others to help. Hope nothing bad happens to the man in question or she could have An Garda Siochana at her door.


  • #56
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    She's trivialising murder with her comment. This is why Ireland has a murder culture!!!


  • #57
    markodaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,865 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    No, still there.

    A meme, two women high fiving and the caption is, 'Women. Like men, only cheaper'.

    If this was actually true, that women were cheaper to hire than men, why would anyone thus hire a man? Can anyone answer that one for me please?


  • #58
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    She's unbelievable that one. Calling people trolls just because they disagree with her. I replied to her tweet and tagged Kate Andrews (who is the news editor at the Institute of Economic Affairs) with the hope she might address some of the BS she posts.

    I think she has me on mute though :P


    https://twitter.com/iealondon/status/929685965299335169


  • #59
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    anna080 wrote: »
    She's trivialising murder with her comment. This is why Ireland has a murder culture!!!

    Ireland has a murder culture? What the heck are you even on about?


  • #60
    gaffer falls
    Registered Users Posts: 36 ✭gaffer falls


    Now if women married men on a lower wage than themselves the pay gap would disappear ;)


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  • #61
    _Dara_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    Where would LON be without her dedicated detractors?


  • #62
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ireland has a murder culture? What the heck are you even on about?
    Murder occurs here, therefore we have a murder culture.


  • #63
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Ireland has a murder culture? What the heck are you even on about?

    I was just making a funny (debatable)


  • #64
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Dakota Brave Carrot wrote: »
    They’re the ones you’d have to watch out for , the creepy male ‘feminist’.... never trust a fella who claims that ....

    She’s essentially Katie Hopkins on the opposite end of the spectrum (LON is more extreme left) ... but she’s not as smart (articles are poorly written and opinions and tweets are like a rambling transition year student) and very hypocritical in her opinions

    Actually, what I find mostly is that it is the men who claim to be anti-feminist or else say that they hate her comments that share them the most.


  • #65
    OnDraught
    Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭OnDraught


    GMSA wrote: »
    Dangerous talk going on there by her. Expressing an intent to murder somebody on social media and inciting others to help. Hope nothing bad happens to the man in question or she could have An Garda Siochana at her door.

    Jesus Christ.


  • #66
    Diana Warm Litter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Diana Warm Litter


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Dakota Brave Carrot wrote: »
    They’re the ones you’d have to watch out for , the creepy male ‘feminist’.... never trust a fella who claims that ....

    She’s essentially Katie Hopkins on the opposite end of the spectrum (LON is more extreme left) ... but she’s not as smart (articles are poorly written and opinions and tweets are like a rambling transition year student) and very hypocritical in her opinions

    Actually, what I find mostly is that it is the men who claim to be anti-feminist or else say that they hate her comments that share them the most.
    She and her 3rd wave buddy’s like Mullally seem to get a free pass to spout their misandry where as if a man wrote on about hating women wouldn’t see the light of day .... equality goes both ways LOn/Mullally and friends


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  • #67
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Lest we forget.


    https://twitter.com/oneilllo/status/802528519452585984?lang=en


  • #68
    _Dara_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    jackofalltrades wrote: »
    The Examiner has a readership of close to 250,000.
    Her show on RTE got a prime time slot AFAIR.
    If all she had was a 1,000 followers on twitter I'd agree with the "ignore her and she'll go away" strategy.
    But she's a bit bigger than that at this stage.

    Chances are we all have national media journalists we don’t like and don’t agree with. I don’t like some (and LON would be one of them) so I just don’t read their output. Avoid the ones that aren’t your cup of cha. It’s easy peasy. So some people like her and agree with her. So? National figures always have loads of Twitter followers.


  • #69
    faceman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,649 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    I'm not a fan of many of the sensationalised comments and tweets Louise O'Neill makes but thats what sells papers and books.

    There is without doubt a gender pay gap and its quite a complex issue. There is plenty of academic research on the topic.

    Certainly I've been fortunate enough that the companies I have worked for have rated very highly on the equality scale when employees are surveyed however some companies and even industries can't say the same. Take it to an international level and some countries are blatantly open about the level of gender discrimination that takes place.

    So while its click baity, it does help keep the conversation in the mainstream to some degree.


  • #70
    tomwaterford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Wibbs wrote: »
    The thing about this pay gap stuff is that if true why would anyone hire a bloke? So either a) men are worth the extra money because they're just better at their jobs, or b) it's all bullsh1t. *hint* it's b

    Is there any example of men and women working exact same job and getting different rates of pay?


    I strongly suspect this wan is mispresenting of facts otherwise.

    it would be like a barman complaining a doctor getting paid more them and complaining of pay gap on average between jobs/professions?(and would be ridiculed as such)


  • #71
    _Dara_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    anna080 wrote: »
    She's trivialising murder with her comment. This is why Ireland has a murder culture!!!

    Anna, I think the thankers might have taken your post seriously! :eek:


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  • #72
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    tomwaterford wrote: »
    Is there any example of men and women working exact same job and getting different rates of pay?


    I strongly suspect this wan is mispresenting of facts otherwise.

    it would be like a barman complaining a doctor getting paid more them and complaining of pay gap on average between jobs/professions?(and would be ridiculed as such)
    There is no WAGE gap. There is an earnings gap.


  • #73
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    _Dara_ wrote: »
    Anna, I think the thankers might have taken your post seriously! :eek:

    Na. They know was'up.


  • #74
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Wibbs wrote: »
    The thing about this pay gap stuff is that if true why would anyone hire a bloke? So either a) men are worth the extra money because they're just better at their jobs, or b) it's all bullsh1t. *hint* it's b

    Yea, and ironically, while trying to raise awareness of the 'gender wage pay gap', they themselves illustrated that beautifully.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_m5AlsQqcs
    .


  • #75
    r93kaey5p2izun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    I've never seen LON on tv, never seen an article she wrote in a paper and never stumbled across any of her outlut online in any media. I knew of her as simply an author's name on a book when passing through Easons. The coverage she gets here is my only source of information on her. Of course everyone is free to post threads moaning about her and anyone else they dislike. But it does seem strange that people who hate her seem to have so much exposure to her when she's so easily avoided.


  • #76
    _Dara_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    Mary Early Nunnery wrote: »
    I've never seen LON on tv, never seen an article she wrote in a paper and never stumbled across any of her outlut online in any media. I knew of her as simply an author's name on a book when passing through Easons. The coverage she gets here is my only source of information on her. Of course everyone is free to post threads moaning about her and anyone else they dislike. But it does seem strange that people who hate her seem to have so much exposure to her when she's so easily avoided.

    They actively seek out her output very clearly. I can understand that, to an extent. It’s a morbid fascination. But at least have some self-awareness about it. :pac:


  • #77
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    _Dara_ wrote: »
    Anna, I think the thankers might have taken your post seriously! :eek:

    Or...................... they knew what she was referencing and got the joke, maybe.


  • #78
    server down
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭server down


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Actually, what I find mostly is that it is the men who claim to be anti-feminist or else say that they hate her comments that share them the most.

    And Kate Hopkins gets the same results from her opponents.


  • #79
    GMSA
    Registered Users Posts: 281 ✭✭GMSA


    OnDraught wrote: »
    Jesus Christ.

    You're right. He was murdered too, by a baying mob out for blood. :)


  • #80
    storker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,688 ✭✭✭storker


    Ralf and Florian wrote: »
    Many feminists I have huge regard for. Germaine Greer, Mary Beard, Camille Pagilla. One thing they all have in common is that they will actually engage with people with differing opinions.

    I'd add Janice Fiamengo, Christina Hoff Sommers and Karen Straughan to that list. They don't necessarily agree with each other, and i don't agree with everything they say either, but at least you get the sense from them that their opinions are actually thought out.


  • #81
    _Dara_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Or...................... they knew what she was referencing and got the joke, maybe.

    And the lack of humour continues...


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  • #82
    _Dara_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    server down wrote: »
    And Kate Hopkins gets the same results from her opponents.

    I dunno, people seem to be losing interest in her, thank fook. I can’t recall myself the last time I took notice of one of her outbursts.

    LON was clearly hired as a clickbait draw. Threads like this demonstrate why.


  • #83
    server down
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭server down


    _Dara_ wrote: »
    I dunno, people seem to be losing interest in her, thank fook. I can’t recall myself the last time I took notice of one of her outbursts.

    LON was clearly hired as a clickbait draw. Threads like this demonstrate why.

    There’s a thread running right now.


  • #84
    IvyTheTerrible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    freshpopcorn wrote: »
    I think the person in the book shop was really trying to wind her up because they put her in the fiction section when she was doing a book signing.

    12366245_998526950204585_474991142708237830_n.jpg?oh=36e87260468f96fbf202ffd47e0853ec&oe=5A9471D4

    She writes fiction novels...


  • #85
    Specialun
    Registered Users Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    I'm unfortunate enough to know lon very well...I know multiple guys that know her very very well


  • #86
    _Dara_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    server down wrote: »
    There’s a thread running right now.

    I wasn’t just talking about boards.


  • #87
    longshanks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    Specialun wrote: »
    I'm unfortunate enough to know lon very well...I know multiple guys that know her very very well

    Tell us more.


  • #88
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    _Dara_ wrote: »
    And the lack of humour continues...

    tenor.gif


  • #89
    Will I Am Not
    Registered Users Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    _Dara_ wrote: »
    And the lack of humour continues...

    See that one wasn’t meant to be funny. The other one that you thought was serious was.

    I’d say you would get very confused at the Edinburgh Festival.


  • #90
    _Dara_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    The Fake Sheikh wrote: »
    See that one wasn’t meant to be funny. The other one that you thought was serious was.

    I’d say you would get very confused at the Edinburgh Festival.

    Nah, I’d be fine. I wasn’t aware this thread was a comedy festival. :cool:


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  • #91
    _Dara_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    LON’s slavishly-devoted detractors will help her stay in gainful employment which will put her future kids through college. You guys will help pay for their gender studies degrees. :D


  • #92
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    Id rather have a dose of thrush that read anything she vomits out


  • #93
    Will I Am Not
    Registered Users Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    _Dara_ wrote: »
    LON’s slavishly-devoted detractors will help her stay in gainful employment which will put her future kids through college. You guys will help pay for their gender studies degrees. :D

    Future kids? Doubt it...


  • #94
    DickSwiveller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭DickSwiveller


    Why are people like her allowed to get away with blatant lying? This gender gap rubbish has been debunked a thousand times, yet they still pretend that women are paid less for doing the same job as a man. As I'm not on twitter, can someone please inform Ms O'Neill that there's a difference between 1. Pay and 2. Earnings.


  • #95
    Ralf and Florian
    Site Banned Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭Ralf and Florian


    _Dara_ wrote: »
    I dunno, people seem to be losing interest in her, thank fook. I can’t recall myself the last time I took notice of one of her outbursts.

    LON was clearly hired as a clickbait draw. Threads like this demonstrate why.

    So basically ignore the bogeyman and it'll go away? That's the vibe I'm getting from all of your posts on this thread. I see nothing wrong in calling out people like Lon and Hopkins over their views.


  • #96
    Diana Warm Litter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Diana Warm Litter


    Kinda would like to see the repeal vote go against her and ilk to see the meltdown she’d have


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  • #97
    _Dara_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    Ralf and Florian wrote: »
    So basically ignore the bogeyman and it'll go away? That's the vibe I'm getting from all of your posts on this thread. I see nothing wrong in calling out people like Lon and Hopkins over their views.

    But like, seriously. I never ever notice her in my day to day life. And I read a lot and ingest a lot of news. The only place she ever comes on my radar is here. She is blatantly employed to provoke ire and generate clicks from people who disagree with her viewpoints. You’re playing into her hands. She’s a troll.

    I have journalists I don’t like. I just ignore their output. It is really easy. I don’t expect to like them all. I don’t expect them to go away either. There’ll be journalists I don’t like. This is OK.


  • #98
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Dakota Brave Carrot wrote: »
    Kinda would like to see the repeal vote go against her and ilk to see the meltdown she’d have

    Going a bit far there


  • #99
    Ralf and Florian
    Site Banned Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭Ralf and Florian


    Dakota Brave Carrot wrote: »
    Kinda would like to see the repeal vote go against her and ilk to see the meltdown she’d have

    I'm personally for repealing the 8'th but the repeal movement has been hijacked by extremist's like Lon to such an extent that I can see it failing.


  • #100
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    Going a bit far there

    Sure she'd love it, keep her in work for years to come


  • #101
    Jobs OXO
    Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    Dakota Brave Carrot wrote: »
    Kinda would like to see the repeal vote go against her and ilk to see the meltdown she’d have

    Yeah. That's the main reason why will vote against repealing the 8th


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