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Louise O'Neill on manned mission to Mars: "Why not go to Venus?" (MOD Warning post 1)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    CageWager wrote: »
    I’ll go out on a limb and say the baddie in the book is a man

    The baddie in the book is Ian Bailey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    From any writing I've seen about the book, it's very thinly disguised, if at all.


  • Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sky King wrote: »
    The baddie in the book is Ian Bailey.

    You wouldn't need to be a rocket surgeon to figure that out.


  • Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ‘Why These Women Stay’

    Often this has a simple answer: They enjoy all the drama and excitement of it. A man who treated them well would be boring and predictable. A particular type of woman definitely seeks out men like this, and will ignore all advice and evidence to the contrary.

    Ironically this type of man also seems to inspire a devotion in a woman that you won't see in a "normal" relationship. I guess it's some sort of co-dependence. As evidenced by Louise herself, secretly a man like this is what she's looking for.
    Meanwhile, Keelin – whose first husband viciously beat her – finds herself in another abusive relationship, despite her training as a counsellor and having worked in a women’s refuge.

    "despite" should be replaced with "because of" .... counselling is all about finding reasons in childhood etc for bad behaviour instead of just acknowledging that some people are just azzholes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,433 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe



    'SO OFTEN, AUTHOR Louise O’Neill says, our thoughts turn to the wives of men accused of terrible crimes – and why they choose to stay. '

    Literally 14 words into the article...! :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭Errashareesh


    ‘Why These Women Stay’

    Often this has a simple answer: They enjoy all the drama and excitement of it. A man who treated them well would be boring and predictable. A particular type of woman definitely seeks out men like this, and will ignore all advice and evidence to the contrary.

    Ironically this type of man also seems to inspire a devotion in a woman that you won't see in a "normal" relationship. I guess it's some sort of co-dependence. As evidenced by Louise herself, secretly a man like this is what she's looking for.
    I can't stand LON and her brand of woke feminism, but the above is just dreadful. Absolute victim blaming - literally saying they ask for it.

    Would you say that about a man who is being abused by his male or female partner/spouse?

    People don't leave abusive relationships because they don't see a way out. They are ground down mentally and their self esteem is shot. They don't think they can make it "outside". They are dependent on their abuser, and the abuser knows it. They are sometimes too afraid to leave also.

    People don't seek an abuser - they are reeled in by charm, hardly by abusiveness. You really do come up with some beauts in relation to women.

    And where on earth is the evidence that Louise wants a man like that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    ‘Why These Women Stay’

    Often this has a simple answer: They enjoy all the drama and excitement of it. A man who treated them well would be boring and predictable. A particular type of woman definitely seeks out men like this, and will ignore all advice and evidence to the contrary.

    Ironically this type of man also seems to inspire a devotion in a woman that you won't see in a "normal" relationship. I guess it's some sort of co-dependence. As evidenced by Louise herself, secretly a man like this is what she's looking for.



    "despite" should be replaced with "because of" .... counselling is all about finding reasons in childhood etc for bad behaviour instead of just acknowledging that some people are just azzholes.

    while this obviously doesnt apply in most domestic violence situations is does in some . some people do seem to like being treated badly and stay going back for more even though they have broken up . look at the amount of people that jump from one scumbag to another and then complain when it turns out this obvious scumbag is a scumbag.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    I read her first book, it was kinda one for teenagers really, but it was fairly well received.

    I think her niche might be to write about ‘toxic masculinity’ etc and that’s enough to get her a lot of publicity, which is going to help publishers sell a lot of books.

    It’s part of publishing, the best books aren’t necessarily the best sellers. Her first one certainly wasn’t a great book by any means, but it was a huge success, even the name would have helped hugely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 151 ✭✭Mr Burny




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭Salvadoor


    A lot of words that when put together make no real sense:


    "Through her writing and play adaptations, Louise's work has made a significant and challenging contribution to the contemporary narrative surrounding key societal issues, added Prof. Crowley.

    "It has awakened an awareness of the importance of recognising and calling out unacceptable behaviour, it has inspired a demand for cultural change across Irish society, providing an impetus for the robust exploration and reimagination of the role of educators to develop training, awareness and capacity to better support and empower voices for change



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,738 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,385 ✭✭✭✭endacl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,418 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    LONs "essential Christmas book guide" has out of a list of nearly thirty just one book written by a man, who just so happens to be her other half.


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/arid-40762431.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,187 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Why does she hate men?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,099 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Because it is extremely hot and we don't have the technology to survive there for a second?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,648 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Tbh I wouldn't be rushing out to buy an account of a nightmare, still ongoing. I read to escape this sh1tshow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,741 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Because they deserve it?

    Louise would have laughed at least.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,418 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    Her Examiner column has come to an end.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,648 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    What a shame, oh well...



  • Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭RoscommonHero


    Her Sunday Times column seems to be a weekly rant against white men. A bit of variety in her topics wouldn't go astray.

    Post edited by RoscommonHero on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock


    Interesting though that she is dating a white man.

    So much for diversity from the bould Ms O'Neill...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Diana Warm Litter


    you know who wears the pants in that relationship, you can see his twitter comment changing over the last few years, not to piss her off



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,185 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Write what sells. And it seems it sells as her editor would be suggesting a change in direction if it didn't. Just like "articles" in the Daily Mail aimed at little Englanders sells, so does this kinda misery and outrage porn thing to her audience.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,079 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    They seem to have replaced Justine McCarthy on the column above hers with Neil Francis, presumably for a bit of yin and yang...



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