Da Dawg pound

gstack166 · 04-03-2018 12:12am

Guffy wrote: »

Day 3 is 4th round though. From What I've heard the relationship between kizer amd hue is very fractured, understandibly so, but this would be a ridiculous trade. Kizer prob needs to move if he's to succeed but from a team poont of view its a nonsense trade. Here's hoping its just silly season speak.

Yes I k ow that

I meant I’d be happy get back what we spent on him. Think he went #51 last year wasn’t it? So a second round pick in return I’d be happy with.

Foxtrol · 04-03-2018 12:52am

gstack166 wrote: »

Yes I k ow that I meant I’d be happy get back what we spent on him. Think he went #51 last year wasn’t it? So a second round pick in return I’d be happy with.

Don't think you'd get a pick near what you paid at this stage. He hasn't showed that he is ready to be a starter and the Browns have lost all their leverage given the conflict and that he'll likely be QB3 there next year.

VillaMad · 10-03-2018 1:08am

Wow. This is just crazy.

Jarvis Landry traded from the Dolphins for a 4th in 2018 and a 7th in 2019. Great deal, you would think.

Tyrod Taylor traded from the Bills for the 65th pick. Mediocre for me and he wasn't mentioned amongst the Cousins, Keenum's, and McCarron's that were going to be available in free agency, but he did take them to the playoffs and is a fairly experienced so there is the bridge qb.

CB Damarious Randall probably famous from a Brown's point of view for a little spat with Josh Gordon last December has been traded from the Packers to the Browns with DeShone Kizer going the opposite way.

I know that Kizer started 15 games in a team that went 0-16 but I do think the kid had something and was thrown into the deep end as a rookie QB with a poor offense. Yes the interceptions was the major, major problem, but he did some good stuff too. Even though we were always going to get a bridge QB and draft a QB, I would have liked to see him be there in pre-season and see how he got on against the other two. Anyway, I feel that Green Bay will be perfect for him as he will sit behind Aaron Rodgers, and learn from one of the greatest and he can't ever have it as bad as he had with the Browns.

Guffy · 10-03-2018 8:25pm

Pretty much agree with all of the above.

I want Mayfield

And how many winning seasons before this stops?

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Wait as long as I've been an NFL fan the browns have been a disaster. Isn't one of the signs of the apocalypse the Cleveland browns finding a QB and been competitive ? Being a QB for the browns is like being the drummer for spinal tap.

Guffy · 14-03-2018 11:10pm

Its a sad day for the parish, the great Joe Thomas retires after 11 seasons. In over 6000 passing snaps he only allowed 30 sacks. Obvious first ballot HoF.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE8zHo5oSdY

gstack166 · 19-03-2018 11:29pm

So it finally looks set in stone in most reporters & beat writers eyes at least that the #1 pick is going to be a QB. I have a feeling in the pit of my stomach they’ll make a pigs ear of it!

Only thing that’s keeping me positive is that it seems to be Dorsey completely running the show now, (I imagine this because of AJ McCarron Landing in Buffalo) Hue without doubt wanted him last year & surely if he was calling he shots would of got him this year for free instead of trading for Tyrod?

Anyone think we’ll trade down out of 4 now? Tough one to call, I imagine if Barkley is gone off the board they will but will they have the leverage still if only 2 QB’s are gone?

Guffy · 20-03-2018 1:11am

I get that Barkley is yet another generational player but even if he is there at 4, do we want to draft him? I mean how much more production would we honestly get out of Barkley compared to a Hyde/Duke combo where both backs are constantly kept fresh in a rotation?

I think they will trade back if there is a market, hopefully they can play Denver and Buffalo off each other and only have to drop back to 5.

I'd like if they could address the secondary. I think Ward is the hot name at CB at the moment and taking that at face value it would be great if they could get that locked down for a few years. I would assume that would be their aim given they didn't manage to get a notable CB in FA and if Randall is going to play FS it will take them out of the running for Fitzpatrick.

gstack166 · 22-03-2018 4:24pm

Ian rappaport reporting now that the likelihood is that NYG will draft Chubb #2. Barkley is certain to be there at #4 now. Do we take him or trade down? Personally would love to see him in Cleveland but I’ve a feeling we’re gonna give that pick up.

Guffy · 22-03-2018 4:56pm

gstack166 wrote: »

Ian rappaport reporting now that the likelihood is that NYG will draft Chubb #2. Barkley is certain to be there at #4 now. Do we take him or trade down? Personally would love to see him in Cleveland but I’ve a feeling we’re gonna give that pick up.

Id love to see him wear the brown uniform but i dont think we can afford the luxury pick.

I can just see how the cogs turn in beatwriters heads. "O look at that, Giants traded JPP. Hey Chubb is a good player. I know!! 'O yes, reports suggest the Giants take Chubb at 2'."

gstack166 · 22-03-2018 5:04pm

Guffy wrote: »

Id love to see him wear the brown uniform but i dont think we can afford the luxury pick.

I can just see how the cogs turn in beatwriters heads. "O look at that, Giants traded JPP. Hey Chubb is a good player. I know!! 'O yes, reports suggest the Giants take Chubb at 2'."

Rappaport is über reliable though in fairness, from what I’ve followed on him anyways. Do we get much value in that 4th pick though if for example Giants do take Chubb or even trade down.

Guffy · 22-03-2018 5:05pm

gstack166 wrote: »

Rappaport is über reliable though in fairness, from what I’ve followed on him anyways. Do we get much value in that 4th pick though if for example Giants do take Chubb or even trade down.

Ah ya Rappaport gets some amount of legit info tbf.

I don't know. If the Giants take a non QB at 2 then i think there would be plenty of trade value to be had

VillaMad · 26-04-2018 6:20pm

So it's finally Draft night after what has been a long winter of waiting.

Browns will have the first and fourth pick tonight.

The QB will be the first pick and it has been regarded to be a fight between Sam Darnold and Josh Allen for the past month until suddenly I see Baker Mayfield may well be that pick but whatever happens all I hope is that they back the guy and give him time. You have to trust Dorsey and whoever else is in on it, to back themselves and go with who they believe is the best choice, having done all their scouting. With having Tyrod there, I'm not too worried as we should not have a Kizer situation facing us again next year.

For the fourth pick, it should be Bradley Chubb as the Giants will most likely pick Barkley and try and pair him up with Myles Garrett, but I can see them trading down as the Bills have to come up to get a QB and you never know what else can happen in those few minutes. It's possible they could trade down and get someone like Mike McGlinchey to replace Joe Thomas instead.

VillaMad · 27-04-2018 11:08pm

So it was Baker Mayfield after all and that's fine as they had the choice of all of them and they picked him as the best fit. Is he going to be a franchise QB for the next 10-15 years? Well we will see. He will have to go against the experts opinion due to his size and all the measurables but he was the most accurate QB.

As for the fourth pick, it did deflate me at the time as Bradley Chubb was definitely the best available player on the list and I had visions of him on one side and Garrett on the other side, but they felt they needed more help at corner and with the likes of Brown and AJ Green in the division, they needed something and so Denzel Ward was the best on the board. It's possible they could have traded down and got Ward anyway, but we don't know and we never will. Ward was never really in the conversation for number 4 but he fills a need.

For Rounds 2 & 3, a replacement for Joe Thomas will be the main need. Connor Williams is the favourite for that. For pick 35, they could go edge rusher with Landry or RB with Jones or Guice.

The_Honeybadger · 27-04-2018 11:22pm

Some surprising picks there, hope Mayfield works out for the Browns. Like yourself when the no. 4 pick was announced I was like WTF are they doing, but they do need a top corner and if he turns out to be that for the next decade it’s a good pick. They have enough picks so no need to risk trading back and hoping he is there if they really wanted him, which they clearly did.

I think Dorsey deserves the benefit of the doubt, some of the business he did in FA was excellent and I look forward to seeing a much improved Browns team next year.

notobtuse · 30-04-2018 3:05pm

I’m still scratching my head why the Browns didn’t pick Barkley at #1. At the fourth pick they would still have the pick of at least 2 quality QB’s available to them (Mayfield, Darnold, Allen or Rosen). Putting a top QB and the best RB we've seen in years on the field together would have helped them immensely.

Guffy · 30-04-2018 3:25pm

notobtuse wrote: »

I’m still scratching my head why the Browns didn’t pick Barkley at #1. At the fourth pick they would still have the pick of at least 2 quality QB’s available to them (Mayfield, Darnold, Allen or Rosen). Putting a top QB and the best RB we've seen in years on the field together would have helped them immensely.

Absolute nonsense. I'm sorry but ive been having this debate since feb and not going into it again but if you dont understand it you need to read up on positional value and salaries.

I'm a little surprised they took Chubb in the 2nd but am not dissapointed in it as i like the player. I would have beem proper pissed if they took Barkley

notobtuse · 30-04-2018 5:02pm

Guffy wrote: »

notobtuse wrote: »

I’m still scratching my head why the Browns didn’t pick Barkley at #1. At the fourth pick they would still have the pick of at least 2 quality QB’s available to them (Mayfield, Darnold, Allen or Rosen). Putting a top QB and the best RB we've seen in years on the field together would have helped them immensely.

Absolute nonsense. I'm sorry but ive been having this debate since feb and not going into it again but if you dont understand it you need to read up on positional value and salaries.

I'm a little surprised they took Chubb in the 2nd but am not dissapointed in it as i like the player. I would have beem proper pissed if they took Barkley

You have your opinion and that's fine. Sorry, but to turn down a player that has the potential to give a team 2,000 combined running and catching yards, and still get a top rated QB, doesn't make sense to me.

Guffy · 30-04-2018 6:39pm

notobtuse wrote: »

You have your opinion and that's fine. Sorry, but to turn down a player that has the potential to give a team 2,000 combined running and catching yards, and still get a top rated QB, doesn't make sense to me.

And who's going to pass him the ball? Your 3rd choice QB? I mean you do realise the success rate of qb's ya? Given that why would you leave the rest of the league choose what one you can have? Ward and mayfield have been my own personal preferences since march, delighted it fell that way. Ya it would have been nice to pick ward up a couple of spots later but if there is no one to trade back with feck it. Take your guy.

Aside from that duke and crowell combined for 2,000 odd yards last year, on a horrible offense. Much happier having the QB we want and a lock down corner. The passing game (production and stopping it) is far more important and expensive to fix than the running game. Its the reason running backs, guards and mlb's are relatively poorly paid.

notobtuse · 30-04-2018 7:42pm

Guffy wrote: »

notobtuse wrote: »

You have your opinion and that's fine. Sorry, but to turn down a player that has the potential to give a team 2,000 combined running and catching yards, and still get a top rated QB, doesn't make sense to me.

And who's going to pass him the ball? Your 3rd choice QB? I mean you do realise the success rate of qb's ya? Given that why would you leave the rest of the league choose what one you can have? Ward and mayfield have been my own personal preferences since march, delighted it fell that way. Ya it would have been nice to pick ward up a couple of spots later but if there is no one to trade back with feck it. Take your guy.

Aside from that duke and crowell combined for 2,000 odd yards last year, on a horrible offense. Much happier having the QB we want and a lock down corner. The passing game (production and stopping it) is far more important and expensive to fix than the running game. Its the reason running backs, guards and mlb's are relatively poorly paid.

You might be right. The Browns are already a better team in 2018 than they were in previous years. But Mayfield, Darnold and Allen were all touted to be better than each other at times and one of them would have been available to the Browns at number 4. Barkley and Chubb were can’t-miss prospects. All four of the top rated QB’s have known flaws. They are all gambles. I know the new rational seems to be you don’t waist the number one pick on a running back who might last 10 years in the league, but Barkley is exceptional. And a quality RB is a QB’s best friend. If they took Barkley (the best player in the draft) first and then taken a risk on one of these four QBs later they would have been almost guaranteed of one home run pick. The risk-reward was much higher in taking Mayfield number one.

Silver-Tiger · 01-05-2018 11:03am

Definitely the most excited i've been for a while.

And nothing to do with Mayfield. He'll sit but wouldn't be surprised if he beat out Taylor.
http://behindbaker.com/ These are great. He'll be great on hard knocks.

Taylor, Landry , Hyde look like solid additions. Although Hyde might not be impressed if Chubb gets going. Duke is still my fav player on roster. The backfield looks great.

There must be points scored with that offense. Gordon, Njoku, Coleman, Landry, That backfield and a solid Line.

D looking good for next year too. Hopefully Garrett and Ogbah are healthy starting and Schobert has been great thus far.

I'm not setting expectations too high for our new CB Denzel Ward. Partly because i'm still scarred by Justin Gilbert and mostly because rookie corners usually don't hot the ground running. Lattimore was exceptional for Saints last year. Haden had 6 picks in his rookie year but remember him getting torched constantly too.

I think Hue needs 7-8 wins to keep his job. Don't think he'll get that. Still. Gonna be easy to root for the team this year i think.

gstack166 · 31-07-2018 12:14am

Listening to the Browns radio station on Tunein this evening this evening while out running, interviewed a few players & ex-players live on it from the open training session.

Seems like the players love Tyrod, no question the reckon that bar a complete disaster he will be the starter for the year.

Bernie Kosar & Tim Couch are all in on the receivers & Couch especially sees a huge year for Corey Coleman coming. Jarvis has that point to prove mentality about him.

Jabril Peppers backed Laundry’s comments about making the playoffs, says there’s a genuine belief in the camp they will do it & Hue & Dorsey are saying it’s the aim for the season which is surprising to hear Hue say that considering the pressure he is going to be under.

I’d take 6-10 in the morning if it was given but depending what happens with Flacco & Jackson in Baltimore they should give it a good go to finish runners up in the division, to finish behind the Bengals this year in my opinion would be a firing offence in itself for Hue Jackson!

VillaMad · 01-08-2018 2:06pm

gstack166 wrote: »

Listening to the Browns radio station on Tunein this evening this evening while out running, interviewed a few players & ex-players live on it from the open training session.

Seems like the players love Tyrod, no question the reckon that bar a complete disaster he will be the starter for the year.

Bernie Kosar & Tim Couch are all in on the receivers & Couch especially sees a huge year for Corey Coleman coming. Jarvis has that point to prove mentality about him.

Jabril Peppers backed Laundry’s comments about making the playoffs, says there’s a genuine belief in the camp they will do it & Hue & Dorsey are saying it’s the aim for the season which is surprising to hear Hue say that considering the pressure he is going to be under.

I’d take 6-10 in the morning if it was given but depending what happens with Flacco & Jackson in Baltimore they should give it a good go to finish runners up in the division, to finish behind the Bengals this year in my opinion would be a firing offence in itself for Hue Jackson!

I wouldn't predict anything anymore with these Browns as even to get any win would be a big thing for this coach and roster. Baltimore and Cincinnati have certainly had stronger sides but even to get a win against both sides would be a major plus for me.

I suppose with all pre-season training camps, there is always going to be optimism and hope for the year ahead and hopefully the new batch can escape the scars of the past.

Two concerns however for me. Josh Gordon looks like he will miss another part of the season. Some rumours that it could be, just to avoid Hard Knocks, but whatever the reason it is a blow although not wholly surprising considering his past. Landry is a proven and should help but I do worry about Coleman who just hasn't lived up to his draft pick.

My other concern is replacing Joe Thomas where Shon Coleman has struggled in the role. Austin Corbett was it was initially thought, drafted high in the second round to take on this role but the coaching staff see him as versatile on the OL which makes it a baffling draft pick for me.

Finally I hope Tyrod Taylor keeps the job for the year and we don't see Baker Mayfield much this season, if at all. Too often, the Browns have thrown in a rookie at QB who has floundered as the gulf between college and the pro game is steep and I hope Baker is given time to develop. The fear is that if the Browns struggle early on that the chants for Mayfield to come on will get louder and louder. I believe that Mayfield will be very good for this side in the future but I hope that he isn't thrown in at the deep end.

gstack166 · 06-08-2018 8:53am

Corey Coleman traded to the Bills for undisclosed draft picks.

He was drafted first round in 2016 in the draft we passed on Wentz. That draft is looking a complete disaster now.

On another note, I presume that leaves the room on the roster they want to persue Dez Bryant? We’ll see.

The_Honeybadger · 06-08-2018 10:37am

I read on social media that not one of theirs first round picks from 07-16 is left on their roster after this trade. Mad if true.

gstack166 · 06-08-2018 10:42am

mickeyk wrote: »

I read on social media that not one of theirs first round picks from 07-16 is left on their roster after this trade. Mad if true.

Could be wrong now but I don’t think it’s as far back as 07, I think it’s from 2011 to 16, either way that’s bad enough too.

I have a feeling Dorsey knows what he is doing though, even with Corey gone who I rated, injuries cost him Baker/Tyrod still have enough of weapons to be throwing to. I’d be worried if Dez comes in to be honest. I just think their seems to be a good spirit in the camp now & he could desrupt that. Time will tell if we sign him.

Guffy · 06-08-2018 10:46am

I hope this is because higgens and callaway are tearing up camp with Gordan coming back and nothing to do woth Dez.

gstack166 · 06-08-2018 10:49am

Guffy wrote: »

I hope this is because higgens and callaway are tearing up camp with Gordan coming back and nothing to do woth Dez.

I imagine & hope Gordon is straight in as soon as the Hard Knock cameras are out of there.

VillaMad · 06-08-2018 1:29pm

Only a 7th rounder for Coleman which suggests to me that they would have cut him at the end of pre-season.

For a guy to be on a rookie-contract, it is baffling to get trade him unless the coaches and Dorsey feel that he is just isn't actually any good. Injuries have cost him an extended run in the side and I get the feeling that the fans would have turned on him ala Kenny Britt if he dropped a simple catch at the start of the season.

Ohmeha · 07-08-2018 9:43pm

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000945622/article/antonio-callaway-cited-for-marijuana-possession

Just imagine if the Browns were on Hard Knocks this year...

VillaMad · 08-08-2018 12:50am

Ohmeha wrote: »

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000945622/article/antonio-callaway-cited-for-marijuana-possession

Just imagine if the Browns were on Hard Knocks this year...

Well everyone knew about him being a bit shady ahead of the draft, so it isn't a huge surprise. Hard Knocks apparently also spent some of the day with Coleman when he gets traded which might be interesting as well.

gstack166 · 14-08-2018 3:08pm

Anyone see Episode 1 Friday night?

Even though I believe Landry doesn’t make that speech if he doesn’t know the cameras are on him I feel he is the perfect personality for the roster. He brings a mentality that’s been missing for a long long time to Cleveland.

He has every right to say what he did in my opinion too, I think he has played 16 games in every season he’s been a pro, for a receiver who get crushed that’s pretty impressive.

I found it a bit awkward of the scenes with Dorsey & Jackson together though, I think it’s pretty clear that Jackson realises he’s out at some point this year & is just hoping he can leave with his head held high with a few wins.

I’m getting excited for the season now, a competitive roster in a division that’s pretty weak excluding the Steelers!

I strongly fancy ya to finish second, mainly because I feel possibly 5 but definitely 6 wins would be enough for that to happen in my opinion.

The_Honeybadger · 14-08-2018 10:19pm

gstack166 wrote: »

Anyone see Episode 1 Friday night?

Even though I believe Landry doesn’t make that speech if he doesn’t know the cameras are on him I feel he is the perfect personality for the roster. He brings a mentality that’s been missing for a long long time to Cleveland.

He has every right to say what he did in my opinion too, I think he has played 16 games in every season he’s been a pro, for a receiver who get crushed that’s pretty impressive.

I found it a bit awkward of the scenes with Dorsey & Jackson together though, I think it’s pretty clear that Jackson realises he’s out at some point this year & is just hoping he can leave with his head held high with a few wins.

I’m getting excited for the season now, a competitive roster in a division that’s pretty weak excluding the Steelers!

I strongly fancy ya to finish second, mainly because I feel possibly 5 but definitely 6 wins would be enough for that to happen in my opinion.

Watched it last night. Jackson is coming across like a bit of a clown, if they have a bad start he’ll be under severe pressure. Felt bad for him that he lost his brother and mum in quick succession. I can’t imagine trying to deal with that in such a high pressure job.

Landry looks absolutely driven to win, he is exactly what they need in that locker room. Tyrod came across well too I thought.

I really hope they have a good season. 6-7 wins is probably best case scenario? That would be a monumental improvement on last year

Silver-Tiger · 20-08-2018 12:54pm

Happy that Flash is back. As much drama as he is, i'm happier with him back rather than Dez.

Jackson looks Awful(as expected) on Hard Knocks.

What's his leash do you think?

I think if they start 0-3 he's in trouble. 0-4 and he's deffo gone. Same for 1-4.

Haley prob get the gig for a season.

gstack166 · 21-08-2018 9:03pm

Silver-Tiger wrote: »

Happy that Flash is back. As much drama as he is, i'm happier with him back rather than Dez.

Jackson looks Awful(as expected) on Hard Knocks.

What's his leash do you think?

I think if they start 0-3 he's in trouble. 0-4 and he's deffo gone. Same for 1-4.

Haley prob get the gig for a season.

I think Jackson comes across as a very decent man. Well liked but just lacks that show of leadership. Not a man you’d run through a wall for.

The best example of this I’ve seen anyways is Bill Parcells, all the ‘Football Lifes’ & other shows & docs ive seen about him or the Giants, he comes across very likeable too but you wouldn’t want to cross him & when he shouts you listen. Hue doesn’t have that aura about him.

Oddly enough, the more I see of Haley the more I think you could be right about him getting the gig!

VillaMad · 01-09-2018 9:33pm

The Browns’ 53-man roster has been finalised:

Offense (25)

Quarterbacks (3): Tyrod Taylor, Baker Mayfield, Drew Stanton; running backs (3): Carlos Hyde, Duke Johnson, Nick Chubb; wide receivers (6): Jarvis Landry, Antonio Callaway, Rashard Higgins, Damion Ratley, Derrick Willies, Josh Gordon; tight ends (4): David Njoku, Darren Fells, Orson Charles, Seth DeValve; offensive linemen (9): Joel Bitonio, Austin Corbett, JC Tretter, Kevin Zeitler, Chris Hubbard, Desmond Harrison, Earl Watford, Austin Reiter, Greg Robinson

Defense (25)

Defensive linemen (9): Myles Garrett, Emmanuel Ogbah, Chris Smith, Carl Nassib, Chad Thomas, Larry Ogunjobi, Jamie Meder, Trevon Coley, Devaroe Lawrence; linebackers (6): Christian Kirksey, Jamie Collins, Joe Schobert, Genard Avery, James Burgess, Jermaine Grace; defensive backs (10): Denzel Ward, Terrance Mitchell, T.J. Carrie, E.J. Gaines, Denzel Rice, Jeremiah McKinnon, Jabrill Peppers, Damarious Randall, Briean Boddy-Calhoun, Derrick Kindred

Specialists (3)

K Zane Gonzalez, P Britton Colquitt, LS Charley Hughlett

- The Browns acquired DL Devaroe Lawrence from the Saints in exchange for a 2019 seventh-round pick.

- The Browns waived 18 players: LB B.J. Bello, DL Caleb Brantley, TE Devon Cajuste, RB Matthew Dayes, OL Christian DiLauro, OL Spencer Drango, DL Daniel Ekuale, DL Zaycoven Henderson, RB Dontrell Hilliard, WR Blake Jackson, DB Mike Jordan, DB Montrel Meander, DL Nate Orchard, DB Tigie Sankoh, WR Da’Mari Scott, LB Brady Sheldon, DB Simeon Thomas, P Justin Vogel.

So the Hard Knocks duo of Cajuste and Orchard don't make it which is a shame. Shon Coleman was traded to the 49'ers yesterday. Matthew Dayes is also unlucky as I thought he has done well. Perhaps he could go into the practice squad.

Silver-Tiger · 03-09-2018 11:25am

Nassib gone also to make way for acquisitions.

Regardless of Hard Knocks, i'm surprised. He looked great before breaking his hands. This must be lingering over him. I'd say he will find a home.

Silver-Tiger · 03-09-2018 10:57pm

Silver-Tiger wrote: »

Nassib gone also to make way for acquisitions.

Regardless of Hard Knocks, i'm surprised. He looked great before breaking his hands. This must be lingering over him. I'd say he will find a home.

Buccs take him

gstack166 · 09-09-2018 10:09pm

Force 6 turnovers, two in the span of one minute and don’t win? That’s almost unbelievable. Except, somehow, it’s totally believable.

Baker is the only one happy today!

VillaMad · 09-09-2018 10:15pm

gstack166 wrote: »

Force 6 turnovers, two in the span of one minute and don’t win? That’s almost unbelievable. Except, somehow, it’s totally believable.

Baker is the only one happy today!

Hard to analyze that game. It was just crazy. I'm worn out!

BonnieSituation · 09-09-2018 10:24pm

gstack166 wrote: »

Force 6 turnovers, two in the span of one minute and don’t win? That’s almost unbelievable. Except, somehow, it’s totally believable.

Baker is the only one happy today!

#believeland

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Ridiculous game. It was the missus' first game since she came out as a Brown's fan.

The range of emotions were hilarious.

Silver-Tiger · 10-09-2018 12:25pm

Taylor was poor. No doubt about it.
He's playing in a dome next week so will be interesting to watch.

Garrett is just incredible. He's too good for us.
And please be the real deal Denzel Ward. Please.

gstack166 · 10-09-2018 1:16pm

From NFL-Ireland Facebook page:

The most Browns statline ever.

The Browns were +5 in takeaways today. Since the Browns returned to the NFL, teams with a turnover margin of +5 or better in a game are 132-4-1. The Browns are responsible for 2 of those losses and the draw.

That is some stat & sums up the Browns.

BonnieSituation · 10-09-2018 1:45pm

Silver-Tiger wrote: »

Taylor was poor. No doubt about it.
He's playing in a dome next week so will be interesting to watch.

Garrett is just incredible. He's too good for us.
And please be the real deal Denzel Ward. Please.

He really is.

Guffy · 10-09-2018 1:54pm

BonnieSituation wrote: »

He really is.

Perfect game.... bar the last defensive play

BonnieSituation · 10-09-2018 1:56pm

That NBC stat over on the main page is gas:

0-0-1; best start for Browns since 2004

Amazing

VillaMad · 16-09-2018 12:37am

Josh Gordon reported to the Browns today with apparently a hamstring issue and was left out of the roster for the Saints game.

Now the Browns have released a statement to say that he has been released as the Browns finally feel that they can do no more, which means that the hamstring was probably a cover story.

Very disappointing way to end. He will be available on waivers come Monday.

The_Honeybadger · 16-09-2018 7:59am

VillaMad wrote: »

Josh Gordon reported to the Browns today with apparently a hamstring issue and was left out of the roster for the Saints game.

Now the Browns have released a statement to say that he has been released as the Browns finally feel that they can do no more, which means that the hamstring was probably a cover story.

Very disappointing way to end. He will be available on waivers come Monday.

What a waste of talent. Browns website reported that he showed up on Saturday ‘not himself’ as well as complaining of a hamstring injury. Poor guy, there are obviously very serious issues there.

Browns will surely now try for Dez? It would make for an interesting season if nothing else.

Silver-Tiger · 16-09-2018 10:31am

Just Fantastic to wake up to that news... But hardly surprising. They gave him all the rope in the world. Even missing training camp essentially. On top of the other stuff.

Rumours that he turned up drunk Saturday. And constantly late. Be interesting to see what happens. He's an incredible talent. A sad story though.

If there is no violation and he can play I'd hate to see him in the division. Even the conference.

Green Bay if I'm rooting for him. Can't say he'll enjoy it up there either.

Dez is a prick though. Not sure he would be a step in the right direction.

Looking forward to the game later. If they get blown out. There could be changes coming...

The_Honeybadger · 16-09-2018 10:44am

If a lucrative career in the NFL and presumably access to the very best treatment isn’t enough to keep you on the straight and narrow you’d really have to fear for him personally. If they do a ‘where are they now’ on this guy in a couple of years I don’t think it’ll make nice reading.

If the Browns can’t straighten him out I don’t see how it’ll work for him at another team.

On the game later, you’d have to fancy the saints to react after getting walloped last week and there was so much to like about the Browns against Pittsburgh. Hard to call it.

Panrich · 16-09-2018 10:16pm

Well the Browns can find new ways to lose every week. I thought that Williams and the defensive line came out with credit again but it must be demoralising to keep handing field position to a sputtering offense.

Da Dawg pound

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