EGR Failure - Volkwagon

We had it done on a 3 year old passat 1.6tdi and it was covered apart from 170 quid. That was bought new and had only about 30k miles on it though.

If its the common issue, its not a blocked up egr, it a faulty design.

Try another dealer? Did you buy from MSL?

€1350 for an EGR valve replacement is extortionate. Absolute madness. Tell VW to stick their EGR valve where the sun don't shine.

Seriously these EGR's can be got as an aftermarket part for far less money than at a VW dealership. Here's a reconditioned one for about €200 with shipping. Any decent indie mechanic would have the whole job done for less than €500.

My advice is to blank the EGR off and get a reputable tuner to update the ECU. KC systems is Watergrasshill in Cork does top work. Did my EGR delete on a Vectra 1.9CDTi. Cost me €10 for a blanking plate an €100 for ECU work. Car will run better as it will always be burning fresh air and you'll never have to worry about the EGR again.

I really don't care what route you take but for the love of all that is good don't let those criminals at VW fix it. Once a car is out of warranty don't ever bring it back to a main dealer. Speak to people in your locality, there will be a trusted indie mechanic who will be invaluable to you in the future.

I agree with you that the environment should be priority but when Joe Soap like myself who relies on a car to drive to work is faced with a €110 repair to get himself back on the road or to hit financial ruin with a €1000 repair then I'm afraid the environment comes out second in that battle each and every time. Not to mention the possible failure of the new EGR in the future.

Have you ever seen the inside of an intake manifold on a diesel equipped with an EGR? I cleaned mine when I blanked the EGR. You wouldn't see the likes on a steam engine such was the level of soot. An engine runs best on clean air. Exhaust gas degrades your engine oil faster too and leads to higher fuel consumption as there is less oxygen in exhaust gas to give a full combustion of the diesel. The EGR's are only effective when the engine is cold too. Most will close when engine is up to temp and I'd imagine are only reducing NOx emissions on start up & idle. EGR's are a disaster and are only there to get a car through it's initial emissions test on launch of the model under strict lab testing environments. In real world driving I'd hazard a guess that they do little to reduce emissions.

As for cylinder temperatures my car has done 50k miles of mixed driving without one single issue. Engine temperature is always in the 85-90 degree zone and the car flies through the NCT smoke test and never emits big plumes of black soot like you see from diesels with EGR trouble. A reputable engine modder will ensure the ECU has been reconfigured to handle the slightly higher cylinder temps.

Anyway hopefully this new Tesla can show that an affordable electric car is achievable. That is where the future lies no doubt, both from an environmental standpoint and a machincal reliability one too.

Dont write off the goodwill until you try another dealer.
Story of my issues with audi & goodwill - I bought Audi new from Dealer, serviced it at same dealer etc all the time. Go back for goodwill at 3.5 years on window regulators that are a known fault. Service guy comes back and says there is zero goodwill available on it.
I call up another dealer who I had neither bought off or serviced at and immediately over the phone he said he would defo get something on that repair and the next day he came back with 75% off parts and labour.
I called back to original guy and he coughed and stuttered etc and said they must have claimed under a different code but I believe he didnt try or want to process it at all and thought I would cough up the full amount.
The moral of the story - Its worth shopping around

go on Facebook for VW and post up about your issue and how pissed you are. Let them see and everyone else what it is like to own a VW with these common issues.

They have enough of bad press as it is. I will say you may get some traction

1k for the egr is a joke. I never understand the obsession with the vag brand in Ireland and I would be hopping this piece down the road and onto the lovers and make sure to stay away from them in future.

Blank the thing off and be done with it.

shietpilot wrote: »

I don't even know why the valves are so expensive. It's not exactly ground breaking technology. It's a simple mechanism that can open or close a valve.

Another one of those cash making devices by the sounds of things

Very high temperature they operate under combined with electronic control with loads of on/off cycles.

shietpilot wrote: »

Still doesn't explain why it's so expensive.

Make one cheaper... You'll make a fortune...

shietpilot wrote: »

Still doesn't explain why it's so expensive.

grogi wrote: »

Make one cheaper... You'll make a fortune...

The Vw EGRs are not just a valve and a solenoid like on some other cars, I think they are part of a much larger assembly/manifold, hence the price. (Open to correction, but that's what I was told) ford ones are the same!

Edit: in nearly 20 yrs of driving turbo daysuls I have never had an egr problem (did the older xud's etc even have them?)
Solution, drive it on to fook

John T Carroll wrote: »

The EGR Cooler and valve are all one assembly now from around 2009/2010 I think.

That explains a lot. High repair cost by design. Yet people keep buying VW, despite the emission scandal, dodgy warranty claims and cherries like this. This company is built on a misinformation at best...