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WWE Crown Jewel 2019 - 31st October (Spoilers from recent shows)

  • 05-10-2019 8:45pm
    #1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    So, figure we should start this up.

    Team Hogan (Rollins, Rusev, tbc, tbc, tbc) vs Team Flair (Corbin, Orton, tbc, tbc, tbc).

    Not announced but heavily rumoured.

    WWE Championship
    Brock Lesnar vs Cain Valazquez

    Tyson Fury vs Brawn Strownman


    Those two matches are....not what I was expecting to write about this time yesterday :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,772 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    Is either of the rumoured matches going to held off for Survivor Series? Or is Crown Jewel now a bigger deal than that

    Probably makes more sense to spread them over both upcoming events since they'll both attract a similar outside crowd


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    Is either of the rumoured matches going to held off for Survivor Series? Or is Crown Jewel now a bigger deal than that

    Probably makes more sense to spread them over both upcoming events since they'll both attract a similar outside crowd

    I’d say the Saudis are paying fury and cains salary for them


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    sky88 wrote: »
    I’d say the Saudis are paying fury and cains salary for them

    Fury if I recall correctly is already minted due to his exclusive deal with ESPN in the States for his boxing career. So I doubt the Saudi's have anything to do with him.

    Open to correction though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭RollieFingers


    The dosser Strowman is going to get the Gypsy Kings hands. Not a fan of much of what's on offer lately from Raw or SD, but love Fury so this is great, the Instagram family video is gas.


  • Registered Users Posts: 242 ✭✭Ali Bomaye


    Whatever the case I love the idea that the Saudi's asked Vince to get Fury for their show.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭nannerby


    Tyson Fury just another reason not to watch this show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,875 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Fury and the Saudis hopefully he say something stupid that upsets them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,875 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Cain vs Brock in a cage and Brock gets PTSD flashbacks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Cain vs Brock in a cage and Brock gets PTSD flashbacks.

    Do they have history?

    Sorry I'm not familiar with Cain :o


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Do they have history?

    Sorry I'm not familiar with Cain :eek:

    Afaik, he beat Brock for the UFC title by destroying him inside one round.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,875 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Do they have history?

    Sorry I'm not familiar with Cain :eek:
    MediocreLazyAcornweevil-size_restricted.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    Fury if I recall correctly is already minted due to his exclusive deal with ESPN in the States for his boxing career. So I doubt the Saudi's have anything to do with him.

    Open to correction though.

    Even if he’s minted they still like more money

    Also I wouldn’t be surprised if the Saudis might be trying to get fury/wilder 2 like they got Joshua Ruiz


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭Officer999


    Is Fury actually going to wrestle though??


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Officer999 wrote: »
    Is Fury actually going to wrestle though??

    It’ll prob be a gimmicked boxing match.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    The dosser Strowman is going to get the Gypsy Kings hands. Not a fan of much of what's on offer lately from Raw or SD, but love Fury so this is great, the Instagram family video is gas.

    The Love Island brother Tommy must be raging as he was hoping to do a Fury family reality show


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,875 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I wonder is the Fury thing all down to the Saudi's wanting his re match with Wilder to happen in Saudi and this is part of the promotion for that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭Petyr Baelish




  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc



    Why.

    WWE and Saudi’s pox blood money shows are fast becoming a joke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,875 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I would rather watch Hogan vs Flair in a 60 minute ironman pensioners with zimmer frames dislocated hip on a pole match.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    https://twitter.com/BrianMaxMann/status/1182746288376467457?s=19

    Remember when Austin & Tyson did this???


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Cain Valazquez Is the worst opponent Lesnar has had for a title match since Bob Holly in 2004.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,981 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Loughc wrote: »
    Cain Valazquez Is the worst opponent Lesnar has had for a title match since Bob Holly in 2004.

    That was a title match?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,337 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Was that a title match?

    I don't think so. 2004 ? When did Brock break hardcore's neck ? Wasn't that 2002/03 ?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    That was a title match?

    Royal rumble 2004. Awful match.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    I don't think so. 2004 ? When did Brock break hardcore's neck ? Wasn't that 2002/03 ?

    2004 Royal Rumble was for the title.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Back when the Rumble title matches were often given to midcarders as the real main eventers were off in the Rumble itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Fury signed with ESPN he's still relatively unknown in the US this gives him exposure to the public plus he definitely ain't doing it for free. Vince loves meatheads like Fury he always has, it could be worse this is probably what they had in mind for Gronk, or Fury could be in there with Brock that I'd pay to see Fury potatoing Brock getting pissed and tossing Fury over his head.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Back when the Rumble title matches were often given to midcarders as the real main eventers were off in the Rumble itself.

    And now it’s 2019 and Vince is giving title matches to debutants. Great booking.

    Taking the UFC hat off and if you knew nothing about Flabby Cain until his appearance on Smackdown, you’d swear he was Rey’s dad who after a few Stellas wants a word with Brock for whipping his son around.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Fury signed with ESPN he's still relatively unknown in the US this gives him exposure to the public plus he definitely ain't doing it for free. Vince loves meatheads like Fury he always has, it could be worse this is probably what they had in mind for Gronk, or Fury could be in there with Brock that I'd pay to see Fury potatoing Brock getting pissed and tossing Fury over his head.

    You might be surprised how a shoot might end between Fury and Lesnar.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Is Rollins doing double duty facing Bray and also leading Hogan's team?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,772 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Is Rollins doing double duty facing Bray and also leading Hogan's team?

    Given WWE's lack of joined up thinking I wouldn't be surprised if you're the first to think of that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,337 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Will not be watching this even if I could watch it. I watched the first Saudi show and didn't(and still haven't) watched the last one and I'll watch the ppvs and be happy with the WWE network and going down my nostalgia rabbit holes but I'm not watching a glorified tourist board pitch for the Saudi government.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Was last night the first time Saudi Arabia was mentioned for this? Everyone usually just says "At Crown Jewel"


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Given WWE's lack of joined up thinking I wouldn't be surprised if you're the first to think of that

    I lol’d hard at this cause you’re spot on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 773 ✭✭✭TimesArrow


    When were nakamura and richochet added to the flair hogan match??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    TimesArrow wrote: »
    When were nakamura and richochet added to the flair hogan match??

    So I wasn't the only one that missed the announcement, if there was one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    So I wasn't the only one that missed the announcement, if there was one

    Didn't see one either

    I imagine it was a no audio clip segment of a few words and a handshake of agreement between the perspective captains


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Is it very weird I want to watch this for the novelty effect :/

    I feel so dirty :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,772 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    Necro wrote: »
    Is it very weird I want to watch this for the novelty effect :/

    I feel so dirty :(

    Only ethical way to watch it is on an illegal stream, or the high seas after it's over


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    They really aren't worth watching. The matches aren't good and they serve no storyline purposes. No titles of importance change hands.

    As TSC said, they're basically non-canon.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    https://twitter.com/WWENetwork/status/1185369236866125824?s=19

    I love that they are aware their gimmick matches are a joke so they guarantee a winner here in the most childish way possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    These ppvs are comedic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    ERG89 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/WWENetwork/status/1185369236866125824?s=19

    I love that they are aware their gimmick matches are a joke so they guarantee a winner here in the most childish way possible.

    And thus results in the death of the Fiend

    I really hate Seth


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    And thus results in the death of the Fiend

    I really hate Seth

    I really hate Vince.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Loughc wrote: »
    I really hate Vince.

    Let's hate them all


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Loughc wrote: »
    I really hate Vince.

    Nailed it, it all comes down to one man in the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,882 ✭✭✭✭Rock Lesnar


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    Nailed it, it all comes down to one man in the end.

    Exactly what i said when they announced Heyman and Bischoff would be "running raw and smackdown"


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Exactly what i said when they announced Heyman and Bischoff would be "running raw and smackdown"

    It's only a matter of time before Heyman gets the boot as well, unless Vince REALLY, REALLY loves the recent fetish storylines, and therefore decides to keep Heyman on his leash so to speak.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    It's only a matter of time before Heyman gets the boot as well, unless Vince REALLY, REALLY loves the recent fetish storylines, and therefore decides to keep Heyman on his leash so to speak.....

    I mean it’s Vince I say he loves them


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