WWE Crown Jewel 2019 - 31st October (Spoilers from recent shows)

Lord TSC

So, figure we should start this up.

Team Hogan (Rollins, Rusev, tbc, tbc, tbc) vs Team Flair (Corbin, Orton, tbc, tbc, tbc).

Not announced but heavily rumoured.

WWE Championship
Brock Lesnar vs Cain Valazquez

Tyson Fury vs Brawn Strownman


Those two matches are....not what I was expecting to write about this time yesterday :pac:

SureYWouldntYa

Is either of the rumoured matches going to held off for Survivor Series? Or is Crown Jewel now a bigger deal than that

Probably makes more sense to spread them over both upcoming events since they'll both attract a similar outside crowd

sky88

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

Is either of the rumoured matches going to held off for Survivor Series? Or is Crown Jewel now a bigger deal than that

Probably makes more sense to spread them over both upcoming events since they'll both attract a similar outside crowd

I’d say the Saudis are paying fury and cains salary for them

Lithium93_

sky88 wrote: »

I’d say the Saudis are paying fury and cains salary for them

Fury if I recall correctly is already minted due to his exclusive deal with ESPN in the States for his boxing career. So I doubt the Saudi's have anything to do with him.

Open to correction though.

RollieFingers

The dosser Strowman is going to get the Gypsy Kings hands. Not a fan of much of what's on offer lately from Raw or SD, but love Fury so this is great, the Instagram family video is gas.

Ali Bomaye

Whatever the case I love the idea that the Saudi's asked Vince to get Fury for their show.

nannerby

Tyson Fury just another reason not to watch this show.

Agent Coulson

Fury and the Saudis hopefully he say something stupid that upsets them.

Agent Coulson

Cain vs Brock in a cage and Brock gets PTSD flashbacks.

JP Liz V1

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Cain vs Brock in a cage and Brock gets PTSD flashbacks.

Do they have history?

Sorry I'm not familiar with Cain

Lord TSC

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Do they have history?

Sorry I'm not familiar with Cain :eek:

Afaik, he beat Brock for the UFC title by destroying him inside one round.

Agent Coulson

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Do they have history?

Sorry I'm not familiar with Cain :eek:

sky88

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Fury if I recall correctly is already minted due to his exclusive deal with ESPN in the States for his boxing career. So I doubt the Saudi's have anything to do with him.

Open to correction though.

Even if he’s minted they still like more money

Also I wouldn’t be surprised if the Saudis might be trying to get fury/wilder 2 like they got Joshua Ruiz

Officer999

Is Fury actually going to wrestle though??

Loughc

Officer999 wrote: »

Is Fury actually going to wrestle though??

It’ll prob be a gimmicked boxing match.

JP Liz V1

RollieFingers wrote: »

The dosser Strowman is going to get the Gypsy Kings hands. Not a fan of much of what's on offer lately from Raw or SD, but love Fury so this is great, the Instagram family video is gas.

The Love Island brother Tommy must be raging as he was hoping to do a Fury family reality show

Agent Coulson

I wonder is the Fury thing all down to the Saudi's wanting his re match with Wilder to happen in Saudi and this is part of the promotion for that.

Petyr Baelish

https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/50022470

Its on!!!!

Loughc

Petyr Baelish wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/50022470

Its on!!!!

Why.

WWE and Saudi’s pox blood money shows are fast becoming a joke.

Agent Coulson

I would rather watch Hogan vs Flair in a 60 minute ironman pensioners with zimmer frames dislocated hip on a pole match.

ERG89

https://twitter.com/BrianMaxMann/status/1182746288376467457?s=19

Remember when Austin & Tyson did this???

Loughc

Cain Valazquez Is the worst opponent Lesnar has had for a title match since Bob Holly in 2004.

johnnyryan89

Loughc wrote: »

Cain Valazquez Is the worst opponent Lesnar has had for a title match since Bob Holly in 2004.

That was a title match?

Itssoeasy

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

Was that a title match?

I don't think so. 2004 ? When did Brock break hardcore's neck ? Wasn't that 2002/03 ?

Loughc

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

That was a title match?

Royal rumble 2004. Awful match.

Loughc

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I don't think so. 2004 ? When did Brock break hardcore's neck ? Wasn't that 2002/03 ?

2004 Royal Rumble was for the title.

Lord TSC

Back when the Rumble title matches were often given to midcarders as the real main eventers were off in the Rumble itself.

RobbingBandit

Fury signed with ESPN he's still relatively unknown in the US this gives him exposure to the public plus he definitely ain't doing it for free. Vince loves meatheads like Fury he always has, it could be worse this is probably what they had in mind for Gronk, or Fury could be in there with Brock that I'd pay to see Fury potatoing Brock getting pissed and tossing Fury over his head.

Loughc

Lord TSC wrote: »

Back when the Rumble title matches were often given to midcarders as the real main eventers were off in the Rumble itself.

And now it’s 2019 and Vince is giving title matches to debutants. Great booking.

Taking the UFC hat off and if you knew nothing about Flabby Cain until his appearance on Smackdown, you’d swear he was Rey’s dad who after a few Stellas wants a word with Brock for whipping his son around.

The White Wolf

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Fury signed with ESPN he's still relatively unknown in the US this gives him exposure to the public plus he definitely ain't doing it for free. Vince loves meatheads like Fury he always has, it could be worse this is probably what they had in mind for Gronk, or Fury could be in there with Brock that I'd pay to see Fury potatoing Brock getting pissed and tossing Fury over his head.

You might be surprised how a shoot might end between Fury and Lesnar.

JP Liz V1

Is Rollins doing double duty facing Bray and also leading Hogan's team?

SureYWouldntYa

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Is Rollins doing double duty facing Bray and also leading Hogan's team?

Given WWE's lack of joined up thinking I wouldn't be surprised if you're the first to think of that

Itssoeasy

Will not be watching this even if I could watch it. I watched the first Saudi show and didn't(and still haven't) watched the last one and I'll watch the ppvs and be happy with the WWE network and going down my nostalgia rabbit holes but I'm not watching a glorified tourist board pitch for the Saudi government.

CastorTroy

Was last night the first time Saudi Arabia was mentioned for this? Everyone usually just says "At Crown Jewel"

Loughc

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

Given WWE's lack of joined up thinking I wouldn't be surprised if you're the first to think of that

I lol’d hard at this cause you’re spot on.

TimesArrow

When were nakamura and richochet added to the flair hogan match??

CastorTroy

TimesArrow wrote: »

When were nakamura and richochet added to the flair hogan match??

So I wasn't the only one that missed the announcement, if there was one

PTH2009

CastorTroy wrote: »

So I wasn't the only one that missed the announcement, if there was one

Didn't see one either

I imagine it was a no audio clip segment of a few words and a handshake of agreement between the perspective captains

Necro

Is it very weird I want to watch this for the novelty effect

I feel so dirty

SureYWouldntYa

Necro wrote: »

Is it very weird I want to watch this for the novelty effect

I feel so dirty

Only ethical way to watch it is on an illegal stream, or the high seas after it's over

J. Marston

They really aren't worth watching. The matches aren't good and they serve no storyline purposes. No titles of importance change hands.

As TSC said, they're basically non-canon.

JP Liz V1

Kofi back in tag team action

https://www.wwe.com/shows/wwe-crown-jewel/2019/tag-team-turmoil-match

ERG89

https://twitter.com/WWENetwork/status/1185369236866125824?s=19

I love that they are aware their gimmick matches are a joke so they guarantee a winner here in the most childish way possible.

PTH2009

These ppvs are comedic

grames_bond

ERG89 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/WWENetwork/status/1185369236866125824?s=19

I love that they are aware their gimmick matches are a joke so they guarantee a winner here in the most childish way possible.

And thus results in the death of the Fiend

I really hate Seth

Loughc

grames_bond wrote: »

And thus results in the death of the Fiend

I really hate Seth

I really hate Vince.

PTH2009

Loughc wrote: »

I really hate Vince.

Let's hate them all

Lithium93_

Loughc wrote: »

I really hate Vince.

Nailed it, it all comes down to one man in the end.

Rock Lesnar

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Nailed it, it all comes down to one man in the end.

Exactly what i said when they announced Heyman and Bischoff would be "running raw and smackdown"

Lithium93_

Rock Lesnar wrote: »

Exactly what i said when they announced Heyman and Bischoff would be "running raw and smackdown"

It's only a matter of time before Heyman gets the boot as well, unless Vince REALLY, REALLY loves the recent fetish storylines, and therefore decides to keep Heyman on his leash so to speak.....

sky88

Lithium93_ wrote: »

It's only a matter of time before Heyman gets the boot as well, unless Vince REALLY, REALLY loves the recent fetish storylines, and therefore decides to keep Heyman on his leash so to speak.....

I mean it’s Vince I say he loves them