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08-11-2018, 16:11   #1
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Proposed changes to Irish rail commuter services from 9th December 2018

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http://www.irishrail.ie/news/december2018timetable

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Dublin/Maynooth/M3 Parkway/Longford

New earlier 05.58hrs Maynooth to Connolly
Six additional off-peak services each way daily Dublin Connolly to Maynooth (Mon to Fri) delivering half-hourly off-peak service during the day and up to 21.00hrs

13 additional off-peak services each way on Saturday Dublin Connolly to Maynooth delivering half-hourly service from 08.00hrs to 19.00hrs approx.

11 additional off-peak services each way on Sunday Dublin Connolly to Maynooth delivering:
Earlier first service from Maynooth at 08.00hrs
Half-hourly service on Sundays from 11.00hrs to 19.00hrs approx
Services extended to 23.00hrs approx. on Sunday evenings

M3 Parkway hourly service extended on Sunday evenings to provide connections at Clonsilla to and from later Maynooth services.
Alteration to running time of 17.17hrs Connolly to Longford between Mullingar and Longford

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08-11-2018, 16:14   #2
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Northern Commuters:

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Three additional services from Connolly to Drogheda on Mondays to Fridays at 07.50hrs, 09.10hrs and 15.22hrs

Additional 06.52hrs DART Connolly to Malahide, to connect to northbound Northern Commuter service for customers from intermediate DART stations

Three additional services from Drogheda to Connolly on Mondays to Fridays at 09:00, 10:10 and 16:28
Results in increase in service to at least 2 trains per hour in each direction for majority of the day

22.05hrs Connolly/Drogheda service on Saturdays advanced to 21.45hrs.

New service on Saturdays from Connolly to Dundalk at 22:45

11 additional services on Sundays, delivering hourly service all day in each direction.
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and the PPT, Sligo and Rosslare lines

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Phoenix Park Tunnel (Grand Canal Dock to Hazelhatch)

Hourly off-peak service on Mondays to Fridays between Grand Canal Dock and
Hazelhatch during the day and up to 23.20 at night.

Dublin / Sligo

Additional service Connolly to Sligo Monday to Friday: 06.55hrs and 09.05hrs Connolly to Sligo will operate, replacing existing 08.00hrs Connolly to Sligo
Saturday only 09.05hrs Connolly to Sligo will operate, replacing existing 08.00hrs Connolly to Sligo

Additional service Sligo to Connolly Monday to Saturday: 16.55hrs (17.00hrs Saturday) and 19.00hrs Sligo to Dublin Connolly, replacing existing 18.00hrs Sligo to Connolly

Altered running times to a number of existing services, including 07.05hrs Sligo to Dublin Connolly advanced to 06.40hrs

Dublin / Rosslare Europort

Monday to Friday: 17.33hrs Connolly to Wexford extended to Rosslare Europort; 18.35hrs Connolly to Rosslare Europort will terminate at Wexford

Saturday 09.40hrs Connolly to Rosslare Europort advanced to 08.05hrs

Sunday 09.45hrs Connolly to Rosslare Europort deferred to 10.25hrs; 09.30hrs Rosslare Europort to Connolly deferred to 09.40hrs
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They're proposing changes over a year in advance????
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They're proposing changes over a year in advance????
Haha, thinking ahead too far!
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Maynooth improvements badly needed and very welcome. Thought PPT might be half hourly off peak but it's a start and needed to get people used to the train if they want to stay anywhere close to the busconnects proposals.

Sightly concerned they're going to overwork the 29000s in to earlier failures though!
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Still the same problem for me. Since Maynooth line lost weekend direct services to Pearse the bus is quicker to the city centre. I haven't used the train since.
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Three additional services from Drogheda to Connolly on Mondays to Fridays at 09:00, 10:10 and 16:28
Not really doing anything to help solve the morning rush mess on the northside...
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Not really doing anything to help solve the morning rush mess on the northside...
From what I can see there will be Northern live services stopping at:

Portmarnock @ 07.11, 07.29, 07.42, 07.52 and 08.43

Clongriffin @ 07.45 and 07.55

Howth Junction @ 06.48, 07.15, 07.47 and 08.47
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Still the same problem for me. Since Maynooth line lost weekend direct services to Pearse the bus is quicker to the city centre. I haven't used the train since.
That's unfortunate. There will always be a few that are disenfranchised but I think the vast majority of Maynooth, Leixlip and Dublin 15 residents will gain from this and it will influence others who may have avoided trains up to now to consider it as a viable option because of the improved frequencies.
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Only got to look at the timetable now, the Hazelhatch PPT and Heuston services are very well spaced (with one little wobble in the afternoon) to give a 30 min service to the city, albeit different stations.
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That's unfortunate. There will always be a few that are disenfranchised but I think the vast majority of Maynooth, Leixlip and Dublin 15 residents will gain from this and it will influence others who may have avoided trains up to now to consider it as a viable option because of the improved frequencies.
This I have to agree with.

Just about squeezed on a 39a last night at 9pm on manor street tonight there was no room and waiting 15 minutes on the next one.

The notion of a luas to broombridge and a train to clonsilla, with that 30 minute frequency up to 9.20 has become more attractive.

Unless there's a drastic improvement to the 39A, that'll be my new way to work and back.

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Re Northern Suburban line:
1. All morning time inbound journey times were increased in the Sept timetable. In the proposed December timetable, they are not planning to fix that. In fact, they have either left the longer journey times the same, or in fact have increased the journey times again on 3 of the 8 inbound suburban trains.
2. In the evening outbound in the Sept timetable they increased journey time of 3 of the 7 trains. In the December timetable they are now increasing journey time on 5 of the 7 trains v's Sept.
3. Re morning and evening peak trains on Sat - they scapped all the direct to/from Pearse and Tara St. While they have reversed 1 of the trains they removed from the pre Sept timetable, and now run that right through to Pearse, but I think they should rethink all the service cuts. And all still removed from the evening timetable. The transfer times to the DART are still very long, in Connolly with journeys still up to 30% longer to Pearse.
I think IE need to reverse out the journey time increases in both the Sept and proposed Dec timetable, and bring back the journey times in operation for the past 20 years I used it. Each year they just become more uncompetitive. But with NTA having no interesr in representing Northern Suburban line customers we just have to suck it up.

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Have to agree with the above. The Northern commuter train is below cycling speed at this stage once it hits Malahide and at a light jogging speed practically from Killester. Less trains but with more capacity that actually move through the system makes more sense
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Have to agree with the above. The Northern commuter train is below cycling speed at this stage once it hits Malahide and at a light jogging speed practically from Killester. Less trains but with more capacity that actually move through the system makes more sense
Less trains isn't the answer. Two new DART lines need to be created to Pearse via tunnels from Heuston and Docklands taking Maynooth and PPT trains out of the Connolly bottleneck. After that quad tracking the northern line would be another hugely positive step in improving transport in the city.

We've finally got our suburban rail network running to a half decent frequency for a city the size of Dublin. Reducing frequency would be a backwards step - now it's time to push on improving infrastructure.
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