Aldi Led Bulbs

danjo-xx · 30-08-2015 8:11pm #1

Next Thursday, they have 7,9,11 and 15w and each €2.99 I wonder if that should say From

https://www.aldi.ie/en/specialbuys/thur-3-sept/products-detail-page/ps/p/energy-saving-lights-candlebulb-shape/

inel · 30-08-2015 9:28pm

I don't think those bulbs are actually LED, they look like the usual energy-saving ones.

ActingDanClark · 30-08-2015 9:33pm

Its highly misleading advertising if theyre not, description would lead you to believe they're led's

v638sg7k1a92bx · 30-08-2015 9:54pm

Can these bulbs be used in dimmers?

L1011 · 30-08-2015 10:27pm

inel wrote: »

I don't think those bulbs are actually LED, they look like the usual energy-saving ones.

Pretty much all LED bulbs except the nastiest Chinese junk have their shells shaped to look like "normal" bulbs these days. The days of exposed semiconductors on a circuit board are gone.

crabbypaddy · 30-08-2015 11:11pm

L1011 wrote: »

Pretty much all LED bulbs except the nastiest Chinese junk have their shells shaped to look like "normal" bulbs these days. The days of exposed semiconductors on a circuit board are gone.

They still look like aldi CFLs though. Aldi CFL are usually packed in predominantly green/yellow or green/white carboard boxes, aldi LEDs are usually blister packed with predominantly red/yellow or red/white cardboard inlay.

ted1 · 30-08-2015 11:47pm

L1011 wrote: »

Pretty much all LED bulbs except the nastiest Chinese junk have their shells shaped to look like "normal" bulbs these days. The days of exposed semiconductors on a circuit board are gone.

But a 15w LED is unusual .unless it's a flood light

J_E · 31-08-2015 12:32am

ted1 wrote: »

But a 15w LED is unusual .unless it's a flood light

I dunno, I have a 13W bulb here and it's pretty bright but it's still a standard bulb. Will probably say it somewhere on packaging. I'd find it unusual for them to advertise as LED if it's anything but.

crabbypaddy · 31-08-2015 12:43am

J_E wrote: »

I dunno, I have a 13W bulb here and it's pretty bright but it's still a standard bulb. Will probably say it somewhere on packaging. I'd find it unusual for them to advertise as LED if it's anything but.

Aldi operates in 16 languages, aldi sud 8 of those, Content writer / translator / graphics deisgner may not know the difference or it could simply be a mistranlation or typo. Lightway are CFLs:
https://www.aldi-sued.de/de/angebote/angebote-von-montag-17-august/detailseite-kw34-mo/ps/p/lightway-ultra-mini-energiesparlampe-4/

https://www.aldi-sued.de/de/angebote/angebote-von-montag-17-august/detailseite-kw34-mo/ps/p/lightway-energiesparlampe-3/

Marhay70 · 31-08-2015 9:58am

Not bad value even for CFLs. I always notice that Aldi and Lidl bulbs are predominantly ES or SES, very few BC, I know that this is the standard in many parts of Europe and the UK tried to switch years ago. Is there another move afoot?

dodzy · 31-08-2015 10:01am

J_E wrote: »

I dunno, I have a 13W bulb here and it's pretty bright but it's still a standard bulb. Will probably say it somewhere on packaging. I'd find it unusual for them to advertise as LED if it's anything but.

You have a CFL, not an LED.

rubadub · 31-08-2015 10:11am

Definitely CFLs unless is some very inefficient LEDs

it says "Available in 7W/9W Candle or 11W/15W Bulb." and the picture shows 290 and 820 Lumens on the boxes.

My 4.5W philips LED is 345lumen.

witnessmenow · 31-08-2015 10:31am

In fairness they never claim they are LED, they just make the following claim:

Reduce consumption and save money on your electricity bill by switching all your light bulbs to LED.

Which is true, nothing to do with these bulbs, but true.

dodzy · 31-08-2015 10:36am

witnessmenow wrote: »

In fairness they never claim they are LED, they just make the following claim:

Which is true, nothing to do with these bulbs, but true.

Grand for us that know, but i'd pull them on the wording. To the non-savvy, I think you could reasonably assume them to be LED. Poor show there, me thinks.

nephster · 31-08-2015 10:43am

Lidl are selling a range of *actual* LED bulbs from next Monday:
http://www.lidl.ie/en/Offers.htm?id=586
Not much doubt about these ones

v638sg7k1a92bx · 31-08-2015 10:45am

witnessmenow wrote: »

In fairness they never claim they are LED, they just make the following claim:

Which is true, nothing to do with these bulbs, but true.

Yes but there are advertising guidelines that have to be within context of the product being sold. If the tagline in the ad suggests LED bulbs then the bulbs have to be LED.

v638sg7k1a92bx · 31-08-2015 10:49am

nephster wrote: »

Lidl are selling a range of *actual* LED bulbs from next Monday:
http://www.lidl.ie/en/Offers.htm?id=586
Not much doubt about these ones

The LED bulbs in Ikea are less expensive. http://www.ikea.com/ie/en/catalog/categories/departments/living_room/20514/

witnessmenow · 31-08-2015 10:53am

dodzy wrote: »

Grand for us that know, but i'd pull them on the wording. To the non-savvy, I think you could reasonably assume them to be LED. Poor show there, me thinks.

Frederick Tinkling Ink wrote: »

Yes but there are advertising guidelines that have to be within context of the product being sold. If the tagline in the ad suggests LED bulbs then the bulbs have to be LED.

It was a joke (obviously not a very good one)

rubadub · 31-08-2015 11:14am

nephster wrote: »

Lidl are selling a range of *actual* LED bulbs from next Monday:
http://www.lidl.ie/en/Offers.htm?id=586

Frederick Tinkling Ink wrote: »

The LED bulbs in Ikea are less expensive. http://www.ikea.com/ie/en/catalog/categories/departments/living_room/20514/

Neither lidl or ikea have bayonet bulbs. Seem harder to get these days.

Sub430 · 31-08-2015 11:20am

rubadub wrote: »

Neither lidl or ikea have bayonet bulbs. Seem harder to get these days.

Picked these up at the weekend in Woodies (buy one get one free)

http://www.woodiesdiy.com/Product/osram-10w-b22-gls-led-frosted-warm-white-bulb-/34327/2.26.7

v638sg7k1a92bx · 31-08-2015 11:22am

rubadub wrote: »

Neither lidl or ikea have bayonet bulbs. Seem harder to get these days.

Are screw not considered more convenient?

delahuntv · 31-08-2015 11:37am

ted1 wrote: »

But a 15w LED is unusual .unless it's a flood light

I have 20watt LED from Ikea and its a 1080 lumen, so 15watt led giving 820 lumen as per the image is about right for the current cropof LED.

Most LED bulbs now look very much like standard bulbs and are coated to give a more even light.

L1011 · 31-08-2015 12:20pm

rubadub wrote: »

Neither lidl or ikea have bayonet bulbs. Seem harder to get these days.

Very small market using bayonet vs ES at this stage. If you still wanted CFLs a while ago Woodies had previous generation stuff in bayonet, maybe 10% less efficient and also in the twisted tube format rather than the external dome that looks more "normal"

There are these: http://www.ikea.com/ie/en/catalog/products/90295615/ but they aren't suitable for every fitting and I've never seen an equivalent for the small bayonet to SES.

clivep · 31-08-2015 12:58pm

delahuntv wrote: »

I have 20watt LED from Ikea and its a 1080 lumen, so 15watt led giving 820 lumen as per the image is about right for the current cropof LED.

Most LED bulbs now look very much like standard bulbs and are coated to give a more even light.

Are you sure your IKEA one is LED not CFL?

A 20 watt LED giving only 1080 lumen is awful but about right for a CFL. My GE 20watt CFL states 1152 lumen on the box.

rubadub · 31-08-2015 2:03pm

Frederick Tinkling Ink wrote: »

Are screw not considered more convenient?

Yeah, but all my fittings are bayonet, in the last 4 places I lived in I think only 1 light was screw in.

Never saw those converters L1011 linked before.

delahuntv wrote: »

I have 20watt LED from Ikea and its a 1080 lumen

An LED should come on to full brightness after just 1 or 2 seconds.

here is an ikea 1000lumen which is 13W
http://www.ikea.com/ie/en/catalog/products/00257482/

this post would suggest yours is CFL too.

Ross Murphy wrote: »

I currently have a single 20w CLF bulb from IKEA in my sitting room (produces 1100 Lumens of light)

I think people are used to seeing spiraling CFLs but many are spirals behind a light defuser now.

seems ikea no longer sell CFLs
http://www.triplepundit.com/2015/08/ikea-eliminates-cfl-light-bulbs/

One company, Ikea, is making it easy to only buy LED lights. By Sept. 1, it will only sell LED light bulbs and lighting, the retailer announced on Monday. The announced fulfills a commitment Ikea made in 2012. Since 2013, the retailer’s U.S. customers purchased 7.6 million LED bulbs, collectively saving almost $3 billion in energy costs.

L1011 · 31-08-2015 2:29pm

Frederick Tinkling Ink wrote: »

Are screw not considered more convenient?

They're not really, and they run the risk of working themselves out under vibration.

They're on their way out due to market forces, not design problems.

ted1 · 31-08-2015 2:56pm

Sub430 wrote: »

Picked these up at the weekend in Woodies (buy one get one free)

http://www.woodiesdiy.com/Product/osram-10w-b22-gls-led-frosted-warm-white-bulb-/34327/2.26.7

still overpriced

Darwin · 31-08-2015 3:05pm

I bought these from amazon with delivery from parcel motel:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00XGRJAPA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

The specifications were quite impressive with a wide beam angle and high lumen output for the wattage. So far I'm very happy with them, although time will tell if they last the quoted time.

stewygriffin · 31-08-2015 3:12pm

Sub430 wrote: »

Picked these up at the weekend in Woodies (buy one get one free)

www .woodiesdiy .com/Product/osram-10w-b22-gls-led-frosted-warm-white-bulb-/34327/2.26.]

Oh my god the price of that.
Led bulb in Ikea for 5 euro and a B22-E27 adaptor in my local electrical wholesale store for 3 euro.Job done for less than half the price from Woodies.

L1011 · 31-08-2015 3:35pm

stewygriffin wrote: »

Oh my god the price of that.
Led bulb in Ikea for 5 euro and a B22-E27 adaptor in my local electrical wholesale store for 3 euro.Job done for less than half the price from Woodies.

The IKEA B22-E27 adapters are cheaper again!

stewygriffin · 31-08-2015 3:40pm

L1011 wrote: »

The IKEA B22-E27 adapters are cheaper again!

Didnt have them in stock when I was up there.The chap in the lighting section said that electricians were coming in and buying up boxes of them.

Marhay70 · 31-08-2015 5:37pm

stewygriffin wrote: »

Didnt have them in stock when I was up there.The chap in the lighting section said that electricians were coming in and buying up boxes of them.

Strange that, electricians would normally shy away from any sort of adapter.
Standards must be dropping.

delahuntv · 31-08-2015 8:30pm

clivep wrote: »

Are you sure your IKEA one is LED not CFL?

A 20 watt LED giving only 1080 lumen is awful but about right for a CFL. My GE 20watt CFL states 1152 lumen on the box.

100% certain - but they are from mid last year. At same time a 4w gu10 was 220 lumens - a 5w gu10 is now ave. 400 lumens.

I wouldn't expect Aldi are selling latest led technology, so.lumens seem to be right for led at that price

bk · 01-09-2015 1:01am

delahuntv wrote: »

100% certain - but they are from mid last year. At same time a 4w gu10 was 220 lumens - a 5w gu10 is now ave. 400 lumens.

Yes, LED lighting technology has advanced at an incredible rate over the last year.

I replaced all the lights in my house with LED's (mostly GU10's and some bulbs) two months ago and WOW, they are amazing.

Never mind them be vastly superior to CFL's, they are much better then even traditional light bulbs. Instant on, very bright, excellent colour, less irritating light, will only need to be replaced every 20 years, never mind the electricity savings that pay for them in just 6 months!

Quality LED lights are definitely ready for prime time now and I highly recommend them to everyone.

J_E · 01-09-2015 3:39am

dodzy wrote: »

You have a CFL, not an LED.

No. It's definitely an LED. One of the more powerful ones though. The only issue I find with the LED bulbs is certain cameras produce a strobing effect if they are near some of them.

wil · 01-09-2015 11:56am

bk wrote: »

Yes, LED lighting technology has advanced at an incredible rate over the last year.

I replaced all the lights in my house with LED's (mostly GU10's and some bulbs) two months ago and WOW, they are amazing.

Never mind them be vastly superior to CFL's, they are much better then even traditional light bulbs. Instant on, very bright, excellent colour, less irritating light, will only need to be replaced every 20 years, never mind the electricity savings that pay for them in just 6 months!

Quality LED lights are definitely ready for prime time now and I highly recommend them to everyone.

Yes LED has definitely come on recently, it's about time. CFL has had its day and Looks like most are producing or cloning CREE technology and prices coming down at last, but it's very hard to be sure of what you are getting.
I picked up a CFL in Asia 10 years ago and it was vastly superior to anything available here at the time or since. Same goes for LED, most of what I've seen is overpriced and waste of money. Slowly starting to see better stuff available but not in the big stores yet.
I'm guessing you have recessed lighting if you are using mostly gu10
Seem to be loads available but mostly spot.
Standard 100 w bulb equivalent are harder to find. I did get some decent BC bulbs from an electrical wholesaler recently which were good value at €5 and elsewhere some outdoor floods for under 20
For me though, anything under 1000lm is of very limited use.

Came across this, worth noting, there's a reason for CE marking

_Tombstone_ · 01-09-2015 12:38pm

New laser leds

bk · 01-09-2015 3:20pm

wil wrote: »

I'm guessing you have recessed lighting if you are using mostly gu10
Seem to be loads available but mostly spot.

I originally had lots of 50Watt MR16's. They were a complete pain in the ass.

Needed to be replaced constantly, at least once a year, plus the damn transformers would go constantly and were a pain to replace. MR16's were expensive and hard to get.

Switched to these bad boys:

http://www.futureled.ie/gu10-bulbs/233-kanlux-7w-gu10-tedi.html#/23-color-warm_white

7 Watt, 120degree, but not dimmable.

For the dimmer in the living room I got these:

http://www.futureled.ie/gu10-bulbs/259-kanlux-cob7w-gu10.html

Fantastic light, WAY brighter then the MR16's they replaced. To be honest, I could easily have gotten away with the 5watt models instead. My neighbour did that and they were still brighter then the MR16's!!

I also got these bulbs for a few rooms and they are excellent too:

http://www.futureled.ie/globe-and-candle-/271-new-gevo-max-smd-105w-e27-b22-warm-white.html

newacc2015 · 01-09-2015 3:51pm

bk wrote: »

Yes, LED lighting technology has advanced at an incredible rate over the last year.

I replaced all the lights in my house with LED's (mostly GU10's and some bulbs) two months ago and WOW, they are amazing.

Never mind them be vastly superior to CFL's, they are much better then even traditional light bulbs. Instant on, very bright, excellent colour, less irritating light, will only need to be replaced every 20 years, never mind the electricity savings that pay for them in just 6 months!

Quality LED lights are definitely ready for prime time now and I highly recommend them to everyone.

Plus LEDs dont have Mercury in them like CFLs(although the levels of Mercury in the new CFLs is pretty small). My problem with CFLs are they have gone from very energy efficient and long lasting, to lesser qualities eg shorter product life and less efficient. Manufactures must have been losing out on their bulbs last 10 years.

Eurosales in Glasnevin have a great Phillips LED collection. They arent the cheapest, but they appear to be excellent quality(I have a few of their LEDs and they are good). The Phillips ones are about 25% of their price from 2/3 years ago

crabbypaddy · 01-09-2015 9:50pm

newacc2015 wrote: »

Plus LEDs dont have Mercury in them like CFLs(although the levels of Mercury in the new CFLs is pretty small). My problem with CFLs are they have gone from very energy efficient and long lasting, to lesser qualities eg shorter product life and less efficient. Manufactures must have been losing out on their bulbs last 10 years.

Eurosales in Glasnevin have a great Phillips LED collection. They arent the cheapest, but they appear to be excellent quality(I have a few of their LEDs and they are good). The Phillips ones are about 25% of their price from 2/3 years ago

The main issue for joe public with CFLs is their life is slashed in enclosed fixtures, frequent switching applications such as bathroom, hallway. And in socket up installations their life can be less than a third of the quoted life. In a socket up enclosed fixture e.g. bathroom globe they can be toast in a matter of hours. The average Irish installation won't see anywhere near the quoted life.

LEDs are going to suffer similar heat related lifespan issues as CFLs in enclosures especially things like GU10s in fire rated enclosures but if not completely abused they should at least on average pay for themselves several times over before they fail and by then a more efficient, higher CRI version should be available.

Now if only you could get a reasonably priced LED with good colour rendering!

L1011 · 01-09-2015 10:06pm

crabbypaddy wrote: »

The average Irish installation won't see anywhere near the quoted life.

I'd have thought that'd apply to pretty much any form of bulb though - from incandescent through all the newer types. I've seen plenty of incandescents in mostly enclosed spotlight fittings and similarly problematic setups.

The public never really focused on expected life of incandescents because they were so cheap - its only become an issue with newer types. The ESB heavily promoting CFLs in the mid to late 1990s on the basis of their lifespan rather than energy savings (electricity being rather cheap then) probably hasn't helped!

bk · 02-09-2015 10:46am

L1011 wrote: »

I'd have thought that'd apply to pretty much any form of bulb though - from incandescent through all the newer types. I've seen plenty of incandescents in mostly enclosed spotlight fittings and similarly problematic setups.

Yup I was replacing my damn MR16 spots every 6 to 12 months, it was a real pain in the ass.

Even if I only get 5 years, instead of 20 out of my new GU10 LED spots, that would still be a big improvement and much easier.

L1011 wrote: »

The public never really focused on expected life of incandescents because they were so cheap - its only become an issue with newer types. The ESB heavily promoting CFLs in the mid to late 1990s on the basis of their lifespan rather than energy savings (electricity being rather cheap then) probably hasn't helped!

Actually there are two main areas where LED's are expected to continue to improve:

- Lumen per watt,i.e. brighter at a lower wattage
- Price

LED's are already cheap enough that they will pay for themselves with electricity savings over 6 to 12 months, but they are still relatively expensive upfront compared to incandescent and that can be an issue for many people.

However LED's are expected to continue to drop in price until they equal the upfront cost of incandescent lights

Marhay70 · 03-09-2015 7:39am

Sully wrote:

Moving to Carlow forum, you might get more responses there!

For those interested. I was in IKEA yesterday and they had plenty of the BC to ES adapters, they also had SBC to SES.

chris1970 · 04-09-2015 8:20am

Bought 8 e14's in aldi they are indeed cfl slow to light up ,7w are big n ugly

irishproduce · 20-09-2015 7:08pm

Missed this thread and now need 4 bulbs around house after another Philips genie 11w gone.
Keeping in simple, what's the best value bulbs to get right now? Energy saving, life span and price important.
Thanks

maynooth_rules · 20-09-2015 7:15pm

irishproduce wrote: »

Missed this thread and now need 4 bulbs around house after another Philips genie 11w gone.
Keeping in simple, what's the best value bulbs to get right now? Energy saving, life span and price important.
Thanks

I too would like to know this

bk · 20-09-2015 7:45pm

irishproduce wrote: »

Missed this thread and now need 4 bulbs around house after another Philips genie 11w gone.
Keeping in simple, what's the best value bulbs to get right now? Energy saving, life span and price important.
Thanks

maynooth_rules wrote: »

I too would like to know this

How long is a piece of string?

It completely depends on what type of bulb (GU10, MR6, candle bulb, standard bulbs, etc.), dimmable or not, what type of light, how bright, etc.?

I would in general go with LED's.

Ikea has a great range of decent LED lights of all different bulb types.

Online, I used futureled.ie to replace all my bulbs and I'm super happy with them.

v638sg7k1a92bx · 21-09-2015 1:23pm

bk wrote: »

How long is a piece of string?

It completely depends on what type of bulb (GU10, MR6, candle bulb, standard bulbs, etc.), dimmable or not, what type of light, how bright, etc.?

I would in general go with LED's.

Ikea has a great range of decent LED lights of all different bulb types.

Online, I used futureled.ie to replace all my bulbs and I'm super happy with them.

Ikea GU10 dimmable are great and only €7 each. No hassle with returns or exchanges which cannot be said for other retailers.

Scruff · 21-09-2015 1:30pm

Frederick Tinkling Ink wrote: »

Ikea GU10 dimmable are great and only €7 each. No hassle with returns or exchanges which cannot be said for other retailers.

Have you used these with a dimmer? i bought a few and are using them with a dimmer specifically for LEDs but still get a buzzing sound off them...

v638sg7k1a92bx · 21-09-2015 1:31pm

Scruff wrote: »

Have you used these with a dimmer? i bought a few and are using them with a dimmer specifically for LEDs but still get a buzzing sound off them...

No dimmer however I think the buzzing sound can be hit and miss.

bk · 21-09-2015 1:46pm

Scruff wrote: »

Have you used these with a dimmer? i bought a few and are using them with a dimmer specifically for LEDs but still get a buzzing sound off them...

I use this one with a LED specific dimmer and no buzz that I can hear:

http://www.futureled.ie/gu10-bulbs/259-kanlux-cob7w-gu10.html#/59-color-warm_white_dimmable

Aldi Led Bulbs

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