Aldi Led Bulbs

danjo-xx

Next Thursday, they have 7,9,11 and 15w and each €2.99 I wonder if that should say From

https://www.aldi.ie/en/specialbuys/thur-3-sept/products-detail-page/ps/p/energy-saving-lights-candlebulb-shape/

inel

I don't think those bulbs are actually LED, they look like the usual energy-saving ones.

ActingDanClark

Its highly misleading advertising if theyre not, description would lead you to believe they're led's

v638sg7k1a92bx

Can these bulbs be used in dimmers?

L1011

inel wrote: »

I don't think those bulbs are actually LED, they look like the usual energy-saving ones.

Pretty much all LED bulbs except the nastiest Chinese junk have their shells shaped to look like "normal" bulbs these days. The days of exposed semiconductors on a circuit board are gone.

crabbypaddy

L1011 wrote: »

Pretty much all LED bulbs except the nastiest Chinese junk have their shells shaped to look like "normal" bulbs these days. The days of exposed semiconductors on a circuit board are gone.

They still look like aldi CFLs though. Aldi CFL are usually packed in predominantly green/yellow or green/white carboard boxes, aldi LEDs are usually blister packed with predominantly red/yellow or red/white cardboard inlay.

ted1

L1011 wrote: »

Pretty much all LED bulbs except the nastiest Chinese junk have their shells shaped to look like "normal" bulbs these days. The days of exposed semiconductors on a circuit board are gone.

But a 15w LED is unusual .unless it's a flood light

J_E

ted1 wrote: »

But a 15w LED is unusual .unless it's a flood light

I dunno, I have a 13W bulb here and it's pretty bright but it's still a standard bulb. Will probably say it somewhere on packaging. I'd find it unusual for them to advertise as LED if it's anything but.

crabbypaddy

J_E wrote: »

I dunno, I have a 13W bulb here and it's pretty bright but it's still a standard bulb. Will probably say it somewhere on packaging. I'd find it unusual for them to advertise as LED if it's anything but.

Aldi operates in 16 languages, aldi sud 8 of those, Content writer / translator / graphics deisgner may not know the difference or it could simply be a mistranlation or typo. Lightway are CFLs:
https://www.aldi-sued.de/de/angebote/angebote-von-montag-17-august/detailseite-kw34-mo/ps/p/lightway-ultra-mini-energiesparlampe-4/

https://www.aldi-sued.de/de/angebote/angebote-von-montag-17-august/detailseite-kw34-mo/ps/p/lightway-energiesparlampe-3/

Marhay70

Not bad value even for CFLs. I always notice that Aldi and Lidl bulbs are predominantly ES or SES, very few BC, I know that this is the standard in many parts of Europe and the UK tried to switch years ago. Is there another move afoot?

dodzy

J_E wrote: »

I dunno, I have a 13W bulb here and it's pretty bright but it's still a standard bulb. Will probably say it somewhere on packaging. I'd find it unusual for them to advertise as LED if it's anything but.

You have a CFL, not an LED.

rubadub

Definitely CFLs unless is some very inefficient LEDs

it says "Available in 7W/9W Candle or 11W/15W Bulb." and the picture shows 290 and 820 Lumens on the boxes.

My 4.5W philips LED is 345lumen.

witnessmenow

In fairness they never claim they are LED, they just make the following claim:

Reduce consumption and save money on your electricity bill by switching all your light bulbs to LED.

Which is true, nothing to do with these bulbs, but true.

dodzy

witnessmenow wrote: »

In fairness they never claim they are LED, they just make the following claim:



Which is true, nothing to do with these bulbs, but true.

Grand for us that know, but i'd pull them on the wording. To the non-savvy, I think you could reasonably assume them to be LED. Poor show there, me thinks.

nephster

Lidl are selling a range of *actual* LED bulbs from next Monday:
http://www.lidl.ie/en/Offers.htm?id=586
Not much doubt about these ones

v638sg7k1a92bx

witnessmenow wrote: »

In fairness they never claim they are LED, they just make the following claim:

Which is true, nothing to do with these bulbs, but true.

Yes but there are advertising guidelines that have to be within context of the product being sold. If the tagline in the ad suggests LED bulbs then the bulbs have to be LED.

v638sg7k1a92bx

nephster wrote: »

Lidl are selling a range of *actual* LED bulbs from next Monday:
http://www.lidl.ie/en/Offers.htm?id=586
Not much doubt about these ones

The LED bulbs in Ikea are less expensive. http://www.ikea.com/ie/en/catalog/categories/departments/living_room/20514/

witnessmenow

dodzy wrote: »

Grand for us that know, but i'd pull them on the wording. To the non-savvy, I think you could reasonably assume them to be LED. Poor show there, me thinks.

Frederick Tinkling Ink wrote: »

Yes but there are advertising guidelines that have to be within context of the product being sold. If the tagline in the ad suggests LED bulbs then the bulbs have to be LED.

It was a joke (obviously not a very good one)

rubadub

nephster wrote: »

Lidl are selling a range of *actual* LED bulbs from next Monday:
http://www.lidl.ie/en/Offers.htm?id=586

Frederick Tinkling Ink wrote: »

The LED bulbs in Ikea are less expensive. http://www.ikea.com/ie/en/catalog/categories/departments/living_room/20514/

Neither lidl or ikea have bayonet bulbs. Seem harder to get these days.

Sub430

rubadub wrote: »

Neither lidl or ikea have bayonet bulbs. Seem harder to get these days.

Picked these up at the weekend in Woodies (buy one get one free)

http://www.woodiesdiy.com/Product/osram-10w-b22-gls-led-frosted-warm-white-bulb-/34327/2.26.7

v638sg7k1a92bx

rubadub wrote: »

Neither lidl or ikea have bayonet bulbs. Seem harder to get these days.

Are screw not considered more convenient?

delahuntv

ted1 wrote: »

But a 15w LED is unusual .unless it's a flood light

I have 20watt LED from Ikea and its a 1080 lumen, so 15watt led giving 820 lumen as per the image is about right for the current cropof LED.

Most LED bulbs now look very much like standard bulbs and are coated to give a more even light.

L1011

rubadub wrote: »

Neither lidl or ikea have bayonet bulbs. Seem harder to get these days.

Very small market using bayonet vs ES at this stage. If you still wanted CFLs a while ago Woodies had previous generation stuff in bayonet, maybe 10% less efficient and also in the twisted tube format rather than the external dome that looks more "normal"

There are these: http://www.ikea.com/ie/en/catalog/products/90295615/ but they aren't suitable for every fitting and I've never seen an equivalent for the small bayonet to SES.

clivep

delahuntv wrote: »

I have 20watt LED from Ikea and its a 1080 lumen, so 15watt led giving 820 lumen as per the image is about right for the current cropof LED.

Most LED bulbs now look very much like standard bulbs and are coated to give a more even light.

Are you sure your IKEA one is LED not CFL?

A 20 watt LED giving only 1080 lumen is awful but about right for a CFL. My GE 20watt CFL states 1152 lumen on the box.

rubadub

Frederick Tinkling Ink wrote: »

Are screw not considered more convenient?

Yeah, but all my fittings are bayonet, in the last 4 places I lived in I think only 1 light was screw in.

Never saw those converters L1011 linked before.

delahuntv wrote: »

I have 20watt LED from Ikea and its a 1080 lumen

An LED should come on to full brightness after just 1 or 2 seconds.

here is an ikea 1000lumen which is 13W
http://www.ikea.com/ie/en/catalog/products/00257482/

this post would suggest yours is CFL too.

Ross Murphy wrote: »

I currently have a single 20w CLF bulb from IKEA in my sitting room (produces 1100 Lumens of light)

I think people are used to seeing spiraling CFLs but many are spirals behind a light defuser now.

seems ikea no longer sell CFLs
http://www.triplepundit.com/2015/08/ikea-eliminates-cfl-light-bulbs/

One company, Ikea, is making it easy to only buy LED lights. By Sept. 1, it will only sell LED light bulbs and lighting, the retailer announced on Monday. The announced fulfills a commitment Ikea made in 2012. Since 2013, the retailer’s U.S. customers purchased 7.6 million LED bulbs, collectively saving almost $3 billion in energy costs.

L1011

Frederick Tinkling Ink wrote: »

Are screw not considered more convenient?

They're not really, and they run the risk of working themselves out under vibration.

They're on their way out due to market forces, not design problems.

ted1

Sub430 wrote: »

Picked these up at the weekend in Woodies (buy one get one free)

http://www.woodiesdiy.com/Product/osram-10w-b22-gls-led-frosted-warm-white-bulb-/34327/2.26.7

still overpriced

Darwin

I bought these from amazon with delivery from parcel motel:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00XGRJAPA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

The specifications were quite impressive with a wide beam angle and high lumen output for the wattage. So far I'm very happy with them, although time will tell if they last the quoted time.

stewygriffin

Sub430 wrote: »

Picked these up at the weekend in Woodies (buy one get one free)

www .woodiesdiy .com/Product/osram-10w-b22-gls-led-frosted-warm-white-bulb-/34327/2.26.]

Oh my god the price of that.
Led bulb in Ikea for 5 euro and a B22-E27 adaptor in my local electrical wholesale store for 3 euro.Job done for less than half the price from Woodies.

L1011

stewygriffin wrote: »

Oh my god the price of that.
Led bulb in Ikea for 5 euro and a B22-E27 adaptor in my local electrical wholesale store for 3 euro.Job done for less than half the price from Woodies.

The IKEA B22-E27 adapters are cheaper again!

stewygriffin

L1011 wrote: »

The IKEA B22-E27 adapters are cheaper again!

Didnt have them in stock when I was up there.The chap in the lighting section said that electricians were coming in and buying up boxes of them.

Marhay70

stewygriffin wrote: »

Didnt have them in stock when I was up there.The chap in the lighting section said that electricians were coming in and buying up boxes of them.

Strange that, electricians would normally shy away from any sort of adapter.
Standards must be dropping.

delahuntv

clivep wrote: »

Are you sure your IKEA one is LED not CFL?

A 20 watt LED giving only 1080 lumen is awful but about right for a CFL. My GE 20watt CFL states 1152 lumen on the box.

100% certain - but they are from mid last year. At same time a 4w gu10 was 220 lumens - a 5w gu10 is now ave. 400 lumens.

I wouldn't expect Aldi are selling latest led technology, so.lumens seem to be right for led at that price

bk

delahuntv wrote: »

100% certain - but they are from mid last year. At same time a 4w gu10 was 220 lumens - a 5w gu10 is now ave. 400 lumens.

Yes, LED lighting technology has advanced at an incredible rate over the last year.

I replaced all the lights in my house with LED's (mostly GU10's and some bulbs) two months ago and WOW, they are amazing.

Never mind them be vastly superior to CFL's, they are much better then even traditional light bulbs. Instant on, very bright, excellent colour, less irritating light, will only need to be replaced every 20 years, never mind the electricity savings that pay for them in just 6 months!

Quality LED lights are definitely ready for prime time now and I highly recommend them to everyone.

J_E

dodzy wrote: »

You have a CFL, not an LED.

No. It's definitely an LED. One of the more powerful ones though. The only issue I find with the LED bulbs is certain cameras produce a strobing effect if they are near some of them.

wil

bk wrote: »

Yes, LED lighting technology has advanced at an incredible rate over the last year.

I replaced all the lights in my house with LED's (mostly GU10's and some bulbs) two months ago and WOW, they are amazing.

Never mind them be vastly superior to CFL's, they are much better then even traditional light bulbs. Instant on, very bright, excellent colour, less irritating light, will only need to be replaced every 20 years, never mind the electricity savings that pay for them in just 6 months!

Quality LED lights are definitely ready for prime time now and I highly recommend them to everyone.

Yes LED has definitely come on recently, it's about time. CFL has had its day and Looks like most are producing or cloning CREE technology and prices coming down at last, but it's very hard to be sure of what you are getting.
I picked up a CFL in Asia 10 years ago and it was vastly superior to anything available here at the time or since. Same goes for LED, most of what I've seen is overpriced and waste of money. Slowly starting to see better stuff available but not in the big stores yet.
I'm guessing you have recessed lighting if you are using mostly gu10
Seem to be loads available but mostly spot.
Standard 100 w bulb equivalent are harder to find. I did get some decent BC bulbs from an electrical wholesaler recently which were good value at €5 and elsewhere some outdoor floods for under 20
For me though, anything under 1000lm is of very limited use.

Came across this, worth noting, there's a reason for CE marking

_Tombstone_

New laser leds

bk

wil wrote: »

I'm guessing you have recessed lighting if you are using mostly gu10
Seem to be loads available but mostly spot.

I originally had lots of 50Watt MR16's. They were a complete pain in the ass.

Needed to be replaced constantly, at least once a year, plus the damn transformers would go constantly and were a pain to replace. MR16's were expensive and hard to get.

Switched to these bad boys:

http://www.futureled.ie/gu10-bulbs/233-kanlux-7w-gu10-tedi.html#/23-color-warm_white

7 Watt, 120degree, but not dimmable.

For the dimmer in the living room I got these:

http://www.futureled.ie/gu10-bulbs/259-kanlux-cob7w-gu10.html

Fantastic light, WAY brighter then the MR16's they replaced. To be honest, I could easily have gotten away with the 5watt models instead. My neighbour did that and they were still brighter then the MR16's!!

I also got these bulbs for a few rooms and they are excellent too:

http://www.futureled.ie/globe-and-candle-/271-new-gevo-max-smd-105w-e27-b22-warm-white.html

newacc2015

bk wrote: »

Yes, LED lighting technology has advanced at an incredible rate over the last year.

I replaced all the lights in my house with LED's (mostly GU10's and some bulbs) two months ago and WOW, they are amazing.

Never mind them be vastly superior to CFL's, they are much better then even traditional light bulbs. Instant on, very bright, excellent colour, less irritating light, will only need to be replaced every 20 years, never mind the electricity savings that pay for them in just 6 months!

Quality LED lights are definitely ready for prime time now and I highly recommend them to everyone.

Plus LEDs dont have Mercury in them like CFLs(although the levels of Mercury in the new CFLs is pretty small). My problem with CFLs are they have gone from very energy efficient and long lasting, to lesser qualities eg shorter product life and less efficient. Manufactures must have been losing out on their bulbs last 10 years.

Eurosales in Glasnevin have a great Phillips LED collection. They arent the cheapest, but they appear to be excellent quality(I have a few of their LEDs and they are good). The Phillips ones are about 25% of their price from 2/3 years ago

crabbypaddy

newacc2015 wrote: »

Plus LEDs dont have Mercury in them like CFLs(although the levels of Mercury in the new CFLs is pretty small). My problem with CFLs are they have gone from very energy efficient and long lasting, to lesser qualities eg shorter product life and less efficient. Manufactures must have been losing out on their bulbs last 10 years.

Eurosales in Glasnevin have a great Phillips LED collection. They arent the cheapest, but they appear to be excellent quality(I have a few of their LEDs and they are good). The Phillips ones are about 25% of their price from 2/3 years ago

The main issue for joe public with CFLs is their life is slashed in enclosed fixtures, frequent switching applications such as bathroom, hallway. And in socket up installations their life can be less than a third of the quoted life. In a socket up enclosed fixture e.g. bathroom globe they can be toast in a matter of hours. The average Irish installation won't see anywhere near the quoted life.

LEDs are going to suffer similar heat related lifespan issues as CFLs in enclosures especially things like GU10s in fire rated enclosures but if not completely abused they should at least on average pay for themselves several times over before they fail and by then a more efficient, higher CRI version should be available.

Now if only you could get a reasonably priced LED with good colour rendering!

L1011

crabbypaddy wrote: »

The average Irish installation won't see anywhere near the quoted life.

I'd have thought that'd apply to pretty much any form of bulb though - from incandescent through all the newer types. I've seen plenty of incandescents in mostly enclosed spotlight fittings and similarly problematic setups.

The public never really focused on expected life of incandescents because they were so cheap - its only become an issue with newer types. The ESB heavily promoting CFLs in the mid to late 1990s on the basis of their lifespan rather than energy savings (electricity being rather cheap then) probably hasn't helped!

bk

L1011 wrote: »

I'd have thought that'd apply to pretty much any form of bulb though - from incandescent through all the newer types. I've seen plenty of incandescents in mostly enclosed spotlight fittings and similarly problematic setups.

Yup I was replacing my damn MR16 spots every 6 to 12 months, it was a real pain in the ass.

Even if I only get 5 years, instead of 20 out of my new GU10 LED spots, that would still be a big improvement and much easier.

L1011 wrote: »

The public never really focused on expected life of incandescents because they were so cheap - its only become an issue with newer types. The ESB heavily promoting CFLs in the mid to late 1990s on the basis of their lifespan rather than energy savings (electricity being rather cheap then) probably hasn't helped!

Actually there are two main areas where LED's are expected to continue to improve:

- Lumen per watt,i.e. brighter at a lower wattage
- Price

LED's are already cheap enough that they will pay for themselves with electricity savings over 6 to 12 months, but they are still relatively expensive upfront compared to incandescent and that can be an issue for many people.

However LED's are expected to continue to drop in price until they equal the upfront cost of incandescent lights

Marhay70

Sully wrote:

Moving to Carlow forum, you might get more responses there!

For those interested. I was in IKEA yesterday and they had plenty of the BC to ES adapters, they also had SBC to SES.

chris1970

Bought 8 e14's in aldi they are indeed cfl slow to light up ,7w are big n ugly

irishproduce

Missed this thread and now need 4 bulbs around house after another Philips genie 11w gone.
Keeping in simple, what's the best value bulbs to get right now? Energy saving, life span and price important.
Thanks

maynooth_rules

irishproduce wrote: »

Missed this thread and now need 4 bulbs around house after another Philips genie 11w gone.
Keeping in simple, what's the best value bulbs to get right now? Energy saving, life span and price important.
Thanks

I too would like to know this

bk

irishproduce wrote: »

Missed this thread and now need 4 bulbs around house after another Philips genie 11w gone.
Keeping in simple, what's the best value bulbs to get right now? Energy saving, life span and price important.
Thanks

maynooth_rules wrote: »

I too would like to know this

How long is a piece of string?

It completely depends on what type of bulb (GU10, MR6, candle bulb, standard bulbs, etc.), dimmable or not, what type of light, how bright, etc.?

I would in general go with LED's.

Ikea has a great range of decent LED lights of all different bulb types.

Online, I used futureled.ie to replace all my bulbs and I'm super happy with them.

v638sg7k1a92bx

bk wrote: »

How long is a piece of string?

It completely depends on what type of bulb (GU10, MR6, candle bulb, standard bulbs, etc.), dimmable or not, what type of light, how bright, etc.?

I would in general go with LED's.

Ikea has a great range of decent LED lights of all different bulb types.

Online, I used futureled.ie to replace all my bulbs and I'm super happy with them.

Ikea GU10 dimmable are great and only €7 each. No hassle with returns or exchanges which cannot be said for other retailers.

Scruff

Frederick Tinkling Ink wrote: »

Ikea GU10 dimmable are great and only €7 each. No hassle with returns or exchanges which cannot be said for other retailers.

Have you used these with a dimmer? i bought a few and are using them with a dimmer specifically for LEDs but still get a buzzing sound off them...

v638sg7k1a92bx

Scruff wrote: »

Have you used these with a dimmer? i bought a few and are using them with a dimmer specifically for LEDs but still get a buzzing sound off them...

No dimmer however I think the buzzing sound can be hit and miss.

bk

Scruff wrote: »

Have you used these with a dimmer? i bought a few and are using them with a dimmer specifically for LEDs but still get a buzzing sound off them...

I use this one with a LED specific dimmer and no buzz that I can hear:

http://www.futureled.ie/gu10-bulbs/259-kanlux-cob7w-gu10.html#/59-color-warm_white_dimmable