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The Pat Kenny Show

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭Callan57


    As was reported, when PK decided or was pushed dinnyfm did not have the back up for live interviews. First cracks.

    So if the interviews are all pre-recorded then ... nothing is live! I'm shocked :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,224 ✭✭✭alaimacerc


    Kenny seems to be in denial that this very poor show was somehow his career highlight. The fact he associates himself with liking it does no good for his career and reputation imho.
    If RTE management thought that Kenny could do not wrong, perhaps it was in part because they'd been listening to PK, who seems to very much have that evaluation.

    In part, he might be saying this in justification of his switch from RTE to New Stalk. I had a brilliant show in the FL, and the nasty managers folded it into some little-known "Prime Time" yoke, which on the one hand, diluted his brilliance by making him share screentime with some other people who are, necessarily and by definition, not "top man" (indeed, not even men at all -- imagine!), and what's worse, disrupting his schedule on the golf course and throwing "extravagant buffet events" by making him work another (small fraction of a) day.

    I'm not sure if it's us he's trying to convince, mind, or himself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Onthe3rdDay


    Callan57 wrote: »
    So if the interviews are all pre-recorded then ... nothing is live! I'm shocked :confused:
    Pat has always been fond of the pre-recorded interview. The old show on RTE always had loads of pre-recorded stuff. This has always been the case but at some point RTE decided to stop presenters saying....Earlier I talked to... Obviously you can get away with it if you have the interview lined up to play on cue and the sound levels correctly set.

    Question is will Newstalk be able to do the basic tech stuff day after day?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    What has always annoyed me about Kenny (and Marian Finucane) is the way they take on the mantle of being not only the interviewer, but also the expert on any and all subjects! Pat Kenny could have on the world leader in Micro biology (for example) and yet Kenny himself will talk for at least 50% of the time (as if he has all the knowledge on the subject), while the poor old guest (in this case, the World leader on the subject) will only get in a short sentence in here and there, to be constantly interrupted by Kenny/Finnucane who love the sound of their own voices . . . .

    Kenny should talk less, and let the interviewee speak more.


  • Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭LeakyGee


    It's amazing the difference experience brings to 10 am.

    Kenny goes straight in with a big menu delivered with energy and gusto big guests and an urgent agenda

    Tom Dunne would have fluffed into the show sheepishly with a story about his coffee going cold ' text me now if you had a cold coffee today'

    He was never gonna work in that slot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,827 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    LeakyGee wrote: »
    It's amazing the difference experience brings to 10 am.

    Kenny goes straight in with a big menu delivered with energy and gusto big guests and an urgent agenda

    Tom Dunne would have fluffed into the show sheepishly with a story about his coffee going cold ' text me now if you had a cold coffee today'

    He was never gonna work in that slot.

    Two completely different shows, not comparable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Why aren't UPC/Horizon giving away a Horizon package as the prize?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭Bits_n_Bobs


    Drunks in Eyre Square shocker!!!!

    Is this PK's first attempt to muscle in on Joe Duffys audience?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,434 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    mike65 wrote: »
    Why aren't UPC/Horizon giving away a Horizon package as the prize?

    I thought the same thing...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    Drunks in Eyre Square shocker!!!!

    Is this PK's first attempt to muscle in on Joe Duffys audience?

    In the old days he would have sent Paddy and his dog to investigate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭artful_codger


    We need to be more like Milwauke now?! It's in the top ten most dangerous large Cities in the US...but shure he was there for a day or two so knows everything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    First chance I've had to Listen to Pat on Newstalk from the beginning and I like it better than RTE so far, number one reason: no Des Cahill and boring sports talk at 11! Great, I always suspected that it was imposed on Pat and that like me he isn't much of sports fan and would prefer to stick to current affairs, also please tell me that there are no almost daily interviews outside social welfare clinics and that he didn't bring MLOD with him from RTE? If so it has the potential to be 100% better than Pat's RTE show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    First chance I've had to Listen to Pat on Newstalk from the beginning and I like it better than RTE so far, number one reason: no Des Cahill and boring sports talk at 11! Great, I always suspected that it was imposed on Pat and that like me he isn't much of sports fan and would prefer to stick to current affairs, also please tell me that there are no almost daily interviews outside social welfare clinics and that he didn't bring MLOD with him from RTE? If so it has the potential to be 100% better than Pat's RTE show.
    Do you not miss Paddy and his dog?:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    Do you not miss Paddy and his dog?:(

    The dog was slightly more tolerable than Paddy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    ......I always suspected that it was imposed on Pat and that like me he isn't much of sports fan and would prefer to stick to current affairs......

    Pat is big sports fan and a regular matchgoer. I reckon he enjoyed those chats after the 11 o clock news.

    I know I did and I'm surprised Newstalk didn't continue with them.

    They only lasted a couple of minutes an it was interesting to get a different perspective on a sports related item rather just a simple report tacked on to the end of the news.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,534 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Really enjoyed that interview on chemical and biological weapons. I think it's been one of Pat's best pieces so far.

    Seems Luke O'Neill will be on every Wednesday, good to hear - he's a good interviewee.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Yep, he knows his stuff and it was good to hear them tie in the science slot with a current news topic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    Really enjoyed that interview on chemical and biological weapons. I think it's been one of Pat's best pieces so far.

    Seems Luke O'Neill will be on every Wednesday, good to hear - he's a good interviewee.

    Me to, again I think it reflects more of Kenny's interests, a regular science slot as opposed to a regular O Gorman with junkies one, Kenny must have been completely sick of that.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Bellerstring


    First chance I've had to Listen to Pat on Newstalk from the beginning and I like it better than RTE so far, number one reason: no Des Cahill and boring sports talk at 11! Great, I always suspected that it was imposed on Pat and that like me he isn't much of sports fan and would prefer to stick to current affairs, also please tell me that there are no almost daily interviews outside social welfare clinics and that he didn't bring MLOD with him from RTE? If so it has the potential to be 100% better than Pat's RTE show.
    Not only is he a big sports fan Techno, but he knew more about practically ALL sports than any of the sports reporters.
    I think he had a great rapport with Des Cahill, but not really the other sports guys who just seemed to be reading their bullitins from a page and couldn't really deal with any discourse or conversation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    Lapin wrote: »
    Pat is big sports fan and a regular matchgoer. I reckon he enjoyed those chats after the 11 o clock news.

    I know I did and I'm surprised Newstalk didn't continue with them.

    They only lasted a couple of minutes an it was interesting to get a different perspective on a sports related item rather just a simple report tacked on to the end of the news.

    I'd say if he really wanted a daily sports slot that he would of insisted on it in negotiations with Newstalk and they would have given him one, having listened to him for around 20 years I'd say current affairs, science and medicine are his biggest interests.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    Not only is he a big sports fan Techno, but he knew more about practically ALL sports than any of the sports reporters.
    I think he had a great rapport with Des Cahill, but not really the other sports guys who just seemed to be reading their bullitins from a page and couldn't really deal with any discourse or conversation.

    Well maybe you are right but I couldn't stand that Cahill bloke so am glad that its not a regular slot anymore.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    I'd say if he really wanted a daily sports slot that he would of insisted on it in negotiations with Newstalk and they would have given him one, having listened to him for around 20 years I'd say current affairs, science and medicine are his biggest interests.

    Having listened to Pat for as long, if not longer, I agree with you in relation to what his biggest interests are.
    I'd add redneck banjo music to the list too !

    Perhaps his dominant interests eclipse his love for sport.

    I doubt the post 11 o clock chats played much, if any part in Pat's negotiations with Newstalk.

    If they did, it was probably Newstalk that dropped them as the Lunchtime Programme that follows Pat has always had a strong sports element with plenty of discussion, often taking precedence over other headlines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,224 ✭✭✭alaimacerc


    I very much doubt it was "imposed" on Kenny; it's not like it's a standard "bit" in most RTE1 shows, so why would PK have to endure it if he didn't want to do it, when others don't? Equally, why would NT not "facilitate him" if he wanted to do the same thing?

    My guess would be that RTE simply wanted a sports bulletin at that slot, and the "banter" was just an add-on. I'd be inclined to see it as Pat wanting to get in the last word on everything, scent-mark anything that was going to be on "his" slot, and of course to show off his Complete Knowledge of All The Things. And on the new show, it just wasn't something high up his desiderata.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,224 ✭✭✭alaimacerc


    Drunks in Eyre Square shocker!!!!

    Is this PK's first attempt to muscle in on Joe Duffys audience?

    Can he please take them all, and then we can get rid of the whole wretched show off RTE1? OK, it's the longest of longshots, but I can dream...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,224 ✭✭✭alaimacerc


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Kenny should talk less, and let the interviewee speak more.
    Rarely a truer word spoken. He has every possible vice of "I'll be the one doing the talking" interviewer: the long, over-elaborated, "is the member getting to the question?" question; the premature and unnecessary interruption; the after the fact throw-away-comment-cum-editorial.

    I don't think it's a new trick he'll be learning at this point, though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,224 ✭✭✭alaimacerc


    Pat has always been fond of the pre-recorded interview. The old show on RTE always had loads of pre-recorded stuff. This has always been the case but at some point RTE decided to stop presenters saying....Earlier I talked to... Obviously you can get away with it if you have the interview lined up to play on cue and the sound levels correctly set.

    I must admit I didn't realize that. Sounds like a somewhat sharp practice to me. The actual news uses the "I spoke earlier..." formula, though, right? Or do some news shows do this, and some not?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Onthe3rdDay


    alaimacerc wrote: »
    I must admit I didn't realize that. Sounds like a somewhat sharp practice to me. The actual news uses the "I spoke earlier..." formula, though, right? Or do some news shows do this, and some not?

    I would assume every mid morning current affairs show in Ireland uses pre-recorded material at some point. Especally when the person you want to interview isn't available between 10 and 12. There's no fast rule that you have to say "I spoke earlier..." if you don't want to but in my opinion it's disrespectful to listeners.

    It was a common phrase used on RTE radio Back in the 80's and early 90's By Pat and also on the Day by Day show that was the forerunner to the current Today show. However, those days tapes were more likely to go wonky and it was harder to get good telephone lines for interviews so listeners were more forgiving. Plus there was only one real Current affairs game in town.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,843 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Am I imagining it or are NT racing through the 10 a.m news/sport/weather to ensure Sean doesn't get a head-start?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭califano


    Anyone else noticing the volume on the adverts are a lot louder than the volume on the show?.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭artful_codger


    It's not on that Hobbs is using Priory Hall to defend strategic defaulters. Two totally different situations


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭Big C


    I think ya can see hoow many followed pat over, 3 comments on boards since 10am, not one about the content, says a lot


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    Argh!

    Switched over to Sean during the break and ran straight into MLOD .

    Right back to the ads for me :D

    On Eddies contribution.

    Business getting 150 times their profit in loans ?

    Christ and I thought the bog standard mortgage situation of 10x + was mad


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    califano wrote: »
    Anyone else noticing the volume on the adverts are a lot louder than the volume on the show?.

    They are not louder - they are at the loudest permissible for more of the time, compression. Same on TV and its why ad breaks wake up those slumbering in front of Midsomer Murders/Morse repeats etc!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,444 ✭✭✭✭Skid X


    Big C wrote: »
    I think ya can see hoow many followed pat over, 3 comments on boards since 10am, not one about the content, says a lot

    Pat is so good, nobody wants to comment in case they miss something he says :D (Sent during the ad break).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Tarakiwa


    Anybody know what the TV theme tune is in todays competition?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,444 ✭✭✭✭Skid X


    Tarakiwa wrote: »
    Anybody know what the TV theme tune is in todays competition?

    I think it's the theme from 'ER'



  • Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭Inspector Dhar


    Tarakiwa wrote: »
    Anybody know what the TV theme tune is in todays competition?

    Anxiously waiting for a hint on this one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    Tarakiwa wrote: »
    Anybody know what the TV theme tune is in todays competition?

    Cheater !

    :D

    I think its Chicago hope , its definitely one of the yank hospital dramas , but I wasn't a fan n only really know based on hearing it come on in the backround as that ma was watching it


  • Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭Inspector Dhar


    Skid X wrote: »
    I think it's the theme from 'ER'


    Thank you


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Tarakiwa


    Skid X wrote: »
    I think it's the theme from 'ER'


    Thats it!
    Fair play!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭telekon


    Ì must say I'm impressed with the Newstalk show. A whole hour spent on current affairs so far this morning, a whole 25 minutes longer than the RTE PK show. No MLOD either.

    Its like the best bits of the PK show for 2.5 hours every day. Loving it. No crappy bands or cookery sections either. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭touts


    Any sign of a podcast RSS/XML feed yet?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    Can't stand PK, never could, and if this thread is anything to go by the new show must be woeful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,843 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    'Our regular history slot'?
    You're settling in quick Pat...


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,534 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Can't stand PK, never could, and if this thread is anything to go by the new show must be woeful.

    Really? I'm enjoying the new show very much, and I was never a big Kenny fan in the past.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 RTE Fan


    Can't stand PK, never could, and if this thread is anything to go by the new show must be woeful.

    Err No


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Can't stand PK, never could, and if this thread is anything to go by the new show must be woeful.

    Well you are not exactly open minded about this are you? :D I'm listening to PK first and foremost. I'll flick over as and when.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭artful_codger


    Can't stand PK, never could, and if this thread is anything to go by the new show must be woeful.

    The old thread for the PK show on Rte was just as quiet, except when Paddy O'Gorman or MLOD were on.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,534 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Joxer Goes To Stuttgart getting a spin. Nice one. :)


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