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Oasis

  • 18-11-2010 3:56pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭


    Are the best. Discuss.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,714 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    at what? trying to sound like the beatles? i think the beatles beat them at that one. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,331 ✭✭✭Guill


    Oasis were great in the 90's. They slowly fizzled out though. I could never get the beatles comparrison though, as a big listener of both bands.

    What oasis and beatles songs sound the same?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭GoldenTickets


    Oasis are the best... band to ever release an album called Definitely Maybe.

    They are also shee-ite!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,510 ✭✭✭VW 1


    Certainly one of my all time favourite bands, along with the Beatles. Fail to see how they are trying to sound like the Beatles though?


  • Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Live4Ever


    Yeah they dont sound like The Beatles at all. Ok fair enough Liam trys to copy his style (the beige lennon hat springs to mind) but there music isnt like The Beatles at all.

    Whoever thinks they are a copy of The Fab Four, please give us an example to back up your argument...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    best band arguably in the last 20 years fact

    live forever
    ricero

    p.s beady eye will dominate


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭JerryHandbag


    Guill wrote: »
    What oasis and beatles songs sound the same?

    All Around The World (Hey Jude)
    Whatever (Eleanor Rigby....ish)
    The middle section of Born On A Different Cloud (Happiness Is A Warm Gun)

    Thats about it. Beatles comparison always puzzled me too, sound more like Stone Roses or something a lot heavier. Beatles were pop, Oasis werent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭Android 666


    ricero wrote: »
    best band arguably in the last 20 years fact

    live forever
    ricero

    p.s beady eye will dominate

    p.s. beady eye are a the festering pus-filled boil that is tangled up in the arse hair of humanity. Liam Gallagher is 3% retard and 94% grissle. The rest of him is made up of knob.

    Beady Eye? Brown Eye more like.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,373 Mod ✭✭✭✭lordgoat


    ricero wrote: »
    best band arguably in the last 20 years fact

    live forever
    ricero

    p.s beady eye will dominate

    oxymoron?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭Bryan4president


    Oasis are pretty fantastic i must say. Noel Gallagher is a genius. Had the privilege of seeing them in Slane in 09, it was epic. Kasabian are probably the only band since imo, that are a good rock band, too much pop crap these days.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,467 ✭✭✭Oasis_Dublin


    I'm Outta Time directly steals the piano from John Lennon's "Jealous Guy"! Huge fan of both bands, have Oasis first 4 albums on Creation and also have the remastered Beatles box set of all the albums.

    I never overly got the Beatles comparison though, both were the bands of the generation I suppose. Noel's tongue in cheek use of the intro to Imagine gave the anti-Oasis brigade some ammunition. The first album had far more of a punk/Stone Roses feel about it. The second album had... well it had an Oasis feel to it. Oasis attempted to sound like it on the majority of the songs after MG, apart from a few psychedelic moments here and there.

    Looking forward to God's solo career, which should be starting very soon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Live4Ever


    Fair enough with Imagine and the Whatever points. They are ripped off, I think half of it is the Gallaghers being ***** and thinking they can get away with it, which is pretty hilarious.

    After that they couldnt sound any less like The Beatles. A guy said that Whatever = Eleanor Rigby. Seriosuly that is insane man, I read somewhere that Eleanor Rigby has no genre?

    I like all the albums, Be Here Now is a classic, although it is definetly way too long (airplanes taking off haha). The Masterplan is amazing.

    And I agree with Liam, the are the biggest British band after The Beatles.


  • Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Live4Ever


    Looking forward to God's solo career, which should be starting very soon.

    He said it would be a while, he just had a kid. I read that their old manager listened to a few tunes and they are supposed to be amazing.

    Haha the snaked was probably holding back all his classics the last few years and saving them for the solo career he knew would eventually come around :D.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,510 ✭✭✭VW 1


    ricero wrote: »
    best band arguably in the last 20 years fact

    live forever
    ricero

    p.s beady eye will dominate

    Have you listened to any of their stuff? I havent had the chance to listen to it. Oasis-esque or is it a totally new sound?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    VW 1 wrote: »
    Have you listened to any of their stuff? I havent had the chance to listen to it. Oasis-esque or is it a totally new sound?

    If you sign up on the site you can d/l the new single free.

    Its the biggest pile of complete sheeeeeeiiiiiiite I've heard in a long time.

    Seriously, completely crap.

    The song is crap, I think there might 4 lyrics in it, melody is crap, and its completely under produced.

    Rubbish.

    Oh, nothing like Oasis at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Darraghnormal


    I love oasis, and the beatles, the riff at the end off the turning is actually the riff from dear prudence, more or less, listen to the rapture its EXACTLY the same as some doors tune, ye could pick away at bands ripping other bands off for hours, they still sold millions of albums.

    Beady eye are dire, i was very very dissapointed with that new single, pray the album has something more to offer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Live4Ever


    I love oasis, and the beatles, the riff at the end off the turning is actually the riff from dear prudence, more or less, listen to the rapture its EXACTLY the same as some doors tune, ye could pick away at bands ripping other bands off for hours, they still sold millions of albums.

    Beady eye are dire, i was very very dissapointed with that new single, pray the album has something more to offer.

    They were never gonna give their best tune away for free. Its just a marketing stunt to get the bands name out there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Darraghnormal


    Ye i just hope the album sounds a bit more produced, it sounds like the drums are being played with empty tins of beans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    Live4Ever wrote: »
    They were never gonna give their best tune away for free. Its just a marketing stunt to get the bands name out there.


    Gets thename out there. But how many people might hear it and just say 'they're crap'. and never bother listening to them again, and never buying an album.

    Marketing FAIL. Getting the bands name out is easy. They should be concentrating on keeping people interested, aso releasing a good song would be step 1.


  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Darraghnormal


    Gets thename out there. But how many people might hear it and just say 'they're crap'. and never bother listening to them again, and never buying an album.

    Marketing FAIL. Getting the bands name out is easy. They should be concentrating on keeping people interested, aso releasing a good song would be step 1.

    Well put.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Live4Ever


    Gets thename out there. But how many people might hear it and just say 'they're crap'. and never bother listening to them again, and never buying an album.

    Marketing FAIL. Getting the bands name out is easy. They should be concentrating on keeping people interested, aso releasing a good song would be step 1.

    Fair point.

    Although its early days yet, we've only heard one tune. Lets make our minds uo when the album is released. Mad fer it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭Joseph...


    i was at oasis in slane 2 years ago....was brilliant but my vote would have to go either chillis or coldplay as being the best over last while....or maybe even U2 before their last album!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭JerryHandbag


    Live4Ever wrote: »
    A guy said that Whatever = Eleanor Rigby. Seriosuly that is insane man, I read somewhere that Eleanor Rigby has no genre?

    Nope, thats not what I said, I said they were a bit alike, heavily string laden and all. Eleanor Rigby is baroque pop genre according to wikipedia, sounds about right to me. Noel said himself that Whatever is their most Beatles soundling song (apart from All Around The World)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    i think theres a lot of any one but oasis fans in this thread fact of the matter is they have been the most successful band in the past 20 years. i had the pleasure of seeing them at slane and it was a great experience one of the best days of my life.
    people bashing beady eye already the new song bring the light i admit is not the best tune out there but its better then half the **** being released by so called rock bands in the past year. i guarantee you the album will be a belter and beady eye will be mega because **** it i wouldn't bet against liam g hes a fukin messiah.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,842 ✭✭✭s8n


    p.s. beady eye are a the festering pus-filled boil that is tangled up in the arse hair of humanity. Liam Gallagher is 3% retard and 94% grissle. The rest of him is made up of knob.

    Beady Eye? Brown Eye more like.

    Not a fan ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    s8n wrote: »
    Not a fan ?

    dont mind that lad he probably thinks razorlight are better then oasis hes defiantly a anybody but oasis fan

    live forever

    ricero


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,467 ✭✭✭Oasis_Dublin


    Ye i just hope the album sounds a bit more produced, it sounds like the drums are being played with empty tins of beans.
    I think it's produced to sound a certain way. I like the sound of it but in typical Gallagher brother's style, the lyrics are woeful!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭Android 666


    ricero wrote: »
    dont mind that lad he probably thinks razorlight are better then oasis hes defiantly a anybody but oasis fan

    live forever

    ricero

    You think I like razorlight? Uh, that hurts. Oasis had one or two okay songs and Noel was/is a decent enough interviewee but Liam Gallagher made being a complete spanner something people aspire too. How? Obviously if looking at monkey boy singing Status Quo songs floats your boat I'm happy for you but celebrating Dad Rock as something positive is insane. Maybe, just maybe, not being shackled to his tit of a brother might help Noel Gallagher to produce something fresh and interesting. Stranger things have happened.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13 KeepOnRunning


    lordgoat wrote: »
    oxymoron?

    how come a moderator is allowed to insult people like that but if it was anyone else they would be banned?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭Android 666


    how come a moderator is allowed to insult people like that but if it was anyone else they would be banned?

    Seriously, do you even know what an oxymoron is?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    You think I like razorlight? Uh, that hurts. Oasis had one or two okay songs and Noel was/is a decent enough interviewee but Liam Gallagher made being a complete spanner something people aspire too. How? Obviously if looking at monkey boy singing Status Quo songs floats your boat I'm happy for you but celebrating Dad Rock as something positive is insane. Maybe, just maybe, not being shackled to his tit of a brother might help Noel Gallagher to produce something fresh and interesting. Stranger things have happened.

    Liam gallagher is the definition of a ****ing rock star and the best frontman of all time.so what if he acts the cock head now and again the music he produces is still mega I always find that a lot of people hate oasis purely on the basis that liams a bit of a knobhead. Thom yorkes a **** but I still like radiohead . It's about the music not the personality of the people in the band. Dad rock you say well it's better then half the ****e released this year and it's only their first single released so keep your slating of the band till after you hear the album man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    how come a moderator is allowed to insult people like that but if it was anyone else they would be banned?
    He didn't insult you. He pointed out that the post was an oxymoron like dwarf mountain, virtual reality or arguable fact. That's not an insult at all.

    Also, on that note, in case you're unaware of its existence, please use the Report Post icon report.gif if you're unhappy with a post so that moderators and category moderators are made aware of it. That is far better than dragging a thread off-topic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,199 ✭✭✭G-Money


    I just posted on the other thread about Beady Eye but I'm not blown away by that new single, I thought it was pretty average to be honest. I've been an Oasis fan for quite a long time. I can still remember when I started to like them. They'd been out a while but for whatever reason they'd sort of not really appeared on my radar until Whatever came out.

    It was being played on the radio and stuff and a few months later they released Some Might Say and that's the one that nailed me. I remember listening to Atlantic 252 and them saying "We have Oasis's new single coming up next" and it was Whatever and I was getting annoyed as their latest was Some Might Say and that was the one I was desperate to hear.

    I then went out and bought Morning Glory and thought it was class. I loved Don't Look Back in Anger from the very first play.

    Will be interesting to see what Noel releases now if he ever get's around to putting some tracks down.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭wobblyknees


    All Around The World (Hey Jude)
    Whatever (Eleanor Rigby....ish)
    The middle section of Born On A Different Cloud (Happiness Is A Warm Gun)

    Thats about it. Beatles comparison always puzzled me too, sound more like Stone Roses or something a lot heavier. Beatles were pop, Oasis werent.

    :confused:

    Octopuses garden, no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Two good albums, followed by a load of overblown indulgent ****e.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,467 ✭✭✭Oasis_Dublin


    Two good albums, followed by a load of overblown indulgent ****e.
    Cliché if ever there was one. Half their remaining was underblown if it was anything.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,467 ✭✭✭Oasis_Dublin


    You think I like razorlight? Uh, that hurts. Oasis had one or two okay songs and Noel was/is a decent enough interviewee but Liam Gallagher made being a complete spanner something people aspire too. How? Obviously if looking at monkey boy singing Status Quo songs floats your boat I'm happy for you but celebrating Dad Rock as something positive is insane. Maybe, just maybe, not being shackled to his tit of a brother might help Noel Gallagher to produce something fresh and interesting. Stranger things have happened.

    I hate to sound like a 12 year old on youtube here but, "if u dnt lk oasis go way nd dnt b slagin dem off, gt a lf lk"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭JerryHandbag


    :confused:

    Octopuses garden, no?

    I suppose a cross between Octopuses Garden and Eleanor Rigby, yeah.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭Android 666


    I hate to sound like a 12 year old on youtube here but, "if u dnt lk oasis go way nd dnt b slagin dem off, gt a lf lk"

    Well the OP stated asked us to discuss if Oasis are the best. I was merely putting acoss an opposing viewpoint. I have yet to be convinced that somebody with the iq of a lobotomised seal whose sole bit of stagecraft involves standing with his hands behind his back and jutting his chin is the greatest frontman of all time. Thom Yorke might be a gombeen, I don't know, but at least he seems to have a bit of intelligence when it comes to the creation of his music. Also he doesn't seem to feel the need to proclaim himself the greatest frontman of all time. I could tell people constantly that I have the cock of an elephant. Doesn't make it true.
    Cliché if ever there was one. Half their remaining was underblown if it was anything.

    Underblown as in they didn't bother over exerting themselves and played it safe? Yeah, I'd say that's a fair assessment of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 139 ✭✭Morninglory


    Best band in the last 20 years. Possibly 30, but I have to get back to you on that


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Joseph... wrote: »
    i was at oasis in slane 2 years ago....was brilliant but my vote would have to go either chillis or coldplay as being the best over last while....or maybe even U2 before their last album!!!

    bestbetrollin

    Also, I disagree with the OP's point, despite it not being a point.


  • Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Live4Ever


    To all the Oasis haters: Have you listened to all the Oasis stuff? All the albums are filled with gems you just need to listen and find them.

    I love all the albums, but Definetly Maybe and What's the Story are amazing, there aren't many bands with albums that good.

    Yeah Liam is a cnut but thats all part of who they are. The whole brilliance of Oasis is built on their cocky confidence, loud mouth attitudes and I don't give a **** antics.

    It's a great divide, you either love 'em or you hate 'em. I think the majority of haters decision is based on the fact they think Liam is a d*ckhead and Noel is talented but also quite a cnut himself.

    I love Oasis for firstly their music and secondly their ability to split the public opinion, I think they live off the buzz of knowing a lot of people hate them, and i respect them for that, Dya known what I mean? ;)

    Live Forever!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    Cliché if ever there was one. Half their remaining was underblown if it was anything.

    i love be here now, maybe its because i listened to it first after all the hype had died down. i think its great, don't go away is a classic


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,467 ✭✭✭Oasis_Dublin


    Well the OP stated asked us to discuss if Oasis are the best. I was merely putting acoss an opposing viewpoint. I have yet to be convinced that somebody with the iq of a lobotomised seal whose sole bit of stagecraft involves standing with his hands behind his back and jutting his chin is the greatest frontman of all time. Thom Yorke might be a gombeen, I don't know, but at least he seems to have a bit of intelligence when it comes to the creation of his music. Also he doesn't seem to feel the need to proclaim himself the greatest frontman of all time. I could tell people constantly that I have the cock of an elephant. Doesn't make it true.



    Underblown as in they didn't bother over exerting themselves and played it safe? Yeah, I'd say that's a fair assessment of it.
    I don't think intelligence has anything to do with the craft of music. For a council estate idiot who didn't obtain the British equivalent of a Leaving Cert, he certainly hasn't done too badly for himself, has he? I don't listen to music based on how many BAs or MAs the artist possesses. That said I'm not a pretentious tw*t!

    Thom Yorke is a fantastic musician, no one is denying that. You didn't bring him up, fair enough, but it is totally off topic. Liam Gallagher got up there and performed the tunes without much need for hullabaloo. I've seen Radiohead, Blur, Arctic Monekys live and they are not too much more lively (Albarn jumped into the pit at OXEGEN but other than that he stood centre stage with a microphone). The singer should be able to sing his songs and bring the crowd great enjoyment without having to act the b*ll*cks a la Bono.

    Underblown in that there were no 45 second intros made up of layers and layers of guitars and helicopter noises, underblown in that they didn't record the longest #1 in the history of the UK singles chart and then add a reprise onto the end of it. Their remaining career after Be Here Now was most certainly underblown in comparison to Be Here Now. To describe it as having "played it safe" suggests you probably haven't really given any of Oasis' back catalogue much time and that as such you probably shouldn't make ignorant generalisations.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,467 ✭✭✭Oasis_Dublin


    aDeener wrote: »
    i love be here now, maybe its because i listened to it first after all the hype had died down. i think its great, don't go away is a classic

    Be Here Now is a top album.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭JerryHandbag


    Listened to Falling Down today, Noel can still write a killer tune. Cant ****ing wait for his solo album


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭Android 666


    I don't think intelligence has anything to do with the craft of music. For a council estate idiot who didn't obtain the British equivalent of a Leaving Cert, he certainly hasn't done too badly for himself, has he? I don't listen to music based on how many BAs or MAs the artist possesses. That said I'm not a pretentious tw*t!

    I don't know if you're directing the pretentious twat comment at me but its totally uncalled for if it is. Have I once insulted anyone for listening to Oasis? No. Moving on... I never once said that you needed to have degrees to make intelligent music, did I? Listening to the music is all the proof you need when it comes assessing whether the creator has a brain or not and I won't apologise in saying that I like some spark of intelligence in the music I listen to. That said, there is an awful lot of intellectual posturing in certain genres of music that I find pretty tiresome. Also, you can be guaranteed that if somebody making music prefixes what they make with the word intelligent you're guaranteed it probably isn't (intelligent rock, intelligent pop, intelligent dance, etc.). It can be a bit of a fine line at times.
    Thom Yorke is a fantastic musician, no one is denying that. You didn't bring him up, fair enough, but it is totally off topic. Liam Gallagher got up there and performed the tunes without much need for hullabaloo. I've seen Radiohead, Blur, Arctic Monekys live and they are not too much more lively (Albarn jumped into the pit at OXEGEN but other than that he stood centre stage with a microphone). The singer should be able to sing his songs and bring the crowd great enjoyment without having to act the b*ll*cks a la Bono.

    Fair enough, I'll concede to some of that. I still think he looks like a tit onstage and inspired some amount of gob****es.
    Underblown in that there were no 45 second intros made up of layers and layers of guitars and helicopter noises, underblown in that they didn't record the longest #1 in the history of the UK singles chart and then add a reprise onto the end of it. Their remaining career after Be Here Now was most certainly underblown in comparison to Be Here Now. To describe it as having "played it safe" suggests you probably haven't really given any of Oasis' back catalogue much time and that as such you probably shouldn't make ignorant generalisations.

    You see, I have listened to their back catalogue and in a moment of madness I bought their last album. I read after they bought the album that they had booked time somewhere over in America to record the album and that Liam fooked off half way through to attend his sister in laws wedding and after that Noel didn't bother doing any more with the album and released it as it was. Does that sound like the actions of a man that really cares about the fans they have? He couldn't be bothered actually trying to produce what could the best possible album, the man had been on autodrive for the last few albums, allowing more and more of the other members to write song because he didn't have the passion any more.

    I'll read any old bull**** in the music papers when I'm on the bog and I've read plenty about Oasis in my time to know I'm not making ignorant generalisatons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭ball ox


    Noel Gallagher is a genius.

    Get a ****ing grip


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭Bryan4president


    ball ox wrote: »
    Get a ****ing grip

    Oasis have had 23 top ten hits, all their albums have gone to number 1, Noel has written the majority of their songs, so in my book, that'd make him a genius. What other band has come close to that in the last 20 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭Android 666


    Oasis have had 23 top ten hits, all their albums have gone to number 1, Noel has written the majority of their songs, so in my book, that'd make him a genius. What other band has come close to that in the last 20 years.

    Using that logic, Westlife would be godlike...


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