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AH Gone to the Dogs

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  • #52
    Raconteuse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    Some proper woman haters on After Hours - not just the re reg folk. They're frustrated at women for not fancying them, they're only attracted to absolute bitches, they resent that - as they see it - even women who aren't at all lookers still get sex (from extremely drunk, ultra horny men, who do an impression of Road Runner when making their getaway the next morning - every woman's dream!) and they blame all women for the above, they are absolutely elated if a woman's beauty starts to fade, etc... It's standard stuff - no mystery. Men who are happy in themselves simply don't have that warped outlook (they can still get pissed off about unfair situations for men - actual unfair situations, like parental rights - without bitterness towards all women).

    But aren't there enough sh1t holes on the internet for such stewing? No need for AH to be such a place - it's not a good look for an otherwise great site that's streets ahead of much bigger social sites for reasoned discussion.


  • #53
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,131 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Why did a Mod just send a very interesting, fun and inoffensive AH thread off to a dead forum to die?

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=112004291#post112004291


  • #54
    Professor Genius
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 391 ✭✭Professor Genius


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Why did a Mod just send a very interesting, fun and inoffensive AH thread off to a dead forum to die?

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=112004291#post112004291

    Dead forum is right. Hardly a thread moved in the last 6 months.


  • #55
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Why did a Mod just send a very interesting, fun and inoffensive AH thread off to a dead forum to die?

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=112004291#post112004291

    Yeah that was an absolutely ridiculous decision. Obviously a personal call but I can’t work out how they’d be offended by it.


  • #56
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,743 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Mega-forums killing smaller forums
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057992392


  • #57
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    Mega-forums killing smaller forums
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057992392

    The forum in question is already dead so all it is now is dead forum killing a good thread.


  • #58
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,743 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    might move a bit of traffic that way. Moving threads might introduce people to new forums,


  • #59
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,131 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    might move a bit of traffic that way. Moving threads might introduce people to new forums,

    It's been locked for the past 3 hours ffs!


  • #60
    anewme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,020 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Some proper woman haters on After Hours - not just the re reg folk. They're frustrated at women for not fancying them, they're only attracted to absolute bitches, they resent that - as they see it - even women who aren't at all lookers still get sex (from extremely drunk, ultra horny men, who do an impression of Road Runner when making their getaway the next morning - every woman's dream!) and they blame all women for the above, they are absolutely elated if a woman's beauty starts to fade, etc... It's standard stuff - no mystery. Men who are happy in themselves simply don't have that warped outlook (they can still get pissed off about unfair situations for men - actual unfair situations, like parental rights - without bitterness towards all women).

    But aren't there enough sh1t holes on the internet for such stewing? No need for AH to be such a place - it's not a good look for an otherwise great site that's streets ahead of much bigger social sites for reasoned discussion.

    I've actually commented on this previously. I don't believe boards.ie are strong enough in tackling the misogyny - threads or posters. It's like its acceptable and comes with AH territory. Apart from the re regs, there are a core of women bashers, everyone knows the names and these posters try to circle the wagons as a group when they get pushback. I've seen many a good poster leave because of them.


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  • #61
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,131 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    might move a bit of traffic that way. Moving threads might introduce people to new forums,

    That thread is still locked. So much for moving traffic to new forums....


  • #62
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Why did a Mod just send a very interesting, fun and inoffensive AH thread off to a dead forum to die?

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=112004291#post112004291
    AH is a general forum and generally a lot of the discussion on Boards begins on AH. AH is not the only forum on Boards and posters are advised to open their threads in the most suitable forum for that thread. I took the decision base on the above guidelines and many threads are moved to other forums where they would be more suited to. In all fairness, I think a discussion on maps would be more suited to the Geography forum than AH.

    However, feel free to PM the mods there and request a return to AH, I won't in any way be upset by its return if it's decided to send it back.
    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    Yeah that was an absolutely ridiculous decision. Obviously a personal call but I can’t work out how they’d be offended by it.
    Neither can I.
    normanoffside wrote: »
    That thread is still locked. So much for moving traffic to new forums....

    I've sent a PM to the mods there to request that they open it soon.

    My apologies for closing the thread, it's a standard procedure before moving threads to notify posters that the thread is moving to a different forum where AH standard posts might not be suitable for the new forum. It gives the mods there a chance to review the thread and decide to open it as is, open it after removing any unsuitable posts, merge with a similar thread or let it remain closed.

    Hands up and apologies, closing that thread was a bad call by me.


  • #63
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,131 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »
    AH is a general forum and generally a lot of the discussion on Boards begins on AH. AH is not the only forum on Boards and posters are advised to open their threads in the most suitable forum for that thread. I took the decision base on the above guidelines and many threads are moved to other forums where they would be more suited to. In all fairness, I think a discussion on maps would be more suited to the Geography forum than AH.

    I just can't agree with that.
    A lot of the maps posted were more 'fun' and had nothing to do with georgraphy.

    You could make the same argument (more appropriate form) for many of the popular AH thread.

    If the maps was a cler Geography thread why was it left in AH for over a week?

    Many more arguments as to why this was a bad move- those are just a few.


  • #64
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Mods deleting people’s posts in this thread without notification?


  • #65
    Skylinehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    Professor Genius wrote: »
    Ffs an interesting thread with 3/4 pages a day now just tumbleweed. They won’t move it back as they think is will generate traffic on a dead forum. You couldn’t make it up !

    "They" aren't a monolith. I've not been active for a while due to work and college but I loved that thread, would never have moved it. At least not without discussion first.


  • #66
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,728 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Professor Genius wrote: »
    Ffs an interesting thread with 3/4 pages a day now just tumbleweed. They won’t move it back as they think is will generate traffic on a dead forum. You couldn’t make it up !

    Yeah, that was a good thread.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



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  • #67
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,131 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Professor Genius wrote: »
    So just move it back. It’s been a day since there’s been a post in it

    The only posts since it moved were the local mods ( not even embedding their maps) then arguing with people asking it to be moved back!


  • #68
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,514 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    Mods deleting people’s posts in this thread without notification?
    There have been 3 posts deleted by Mods/Admins in this thread - the last one being on 1 September. Some users have deleted their own posts

    Just to dd though, you only qualified to post in this forum today, as there is a minimum 100 posts and 3 months on site required before posting in Feedback


  • #69
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Beasty wrote: »
    There have been 3 posts deleted by Mods/Admins in this thread - the last one being on 1 September. Some users have deleted their own posts

    Just to dd though, you only qualified to post in this forum today, as there is a minimum 100 posts and 3 months on site required before posting in Feedback

    Care to add anything on moving the good inoffensive thread back from the ghost town forum?


  • #70
    Skylinehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    Professor Genius wrote: »
    So just move it back. It’s been a day since there’s been a post in it

    I'm not a mod of that forum, so I'm not able to.


  • #71
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,514 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    Care to add anything on moving the good inoffensive thread back from the ghost town forum?

    I was just correcting the statement you made

    In terms of the underlying thread it continues to be active and the local mods have indicated in the thread they are happy to leave it there

    Anyone who is not banned from Geography and Geology can continue to post in it. There remains a link in AH and anyone who has posted in it (as I have) can see it in their "My Threads" list unless they have chosen to remove the link


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  • #72
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Let it die then. Grand.


  • #73
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,131 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Beasty wrote: »
    I
    In terms of the underlying thread it continues to be active and the local mods have indicated in the thread they are happy to leave it there

    What do you mean an 'active' thread?
    The only map posted in the last 48 hours is a sarcastic map indicating the number of people who want the thread moved back to AH

    All the other posts are posters arguing with local mods over whether it should be moved back to AH or not.

    Can it just not be admitted the move was a mistake and send it bacK?


  • #74
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,514 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    normanoffside wrote: »
    What do you mean an 'active' thread?
    The only map posted in the last 48 hours is a sarcastic map indicating the number of people who want the thread moved back to AH

    All the other posts are posters arguing with local mods over whether it should be moved back to AH or not.

    Can it just not be admitted the move was a mistake and send it bacK?
    Can't you post in a forum other than AH?


  • #75
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    normanoffside wrote: »
    What do you mean an 'active' thread?
    The only map posted in the last 48 hours is a sarcastic map indicating the number of people who want the thread moved back to AH

    All the other posts are posters arguing with local mods over whether it should be moved back to AH or not.

    Can it just not be admitted the move was a mistake and send it bacK?

    That’s the real issue here and the reason it will never be moved back, even though they know themselves it should be.


  • #76
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,514 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    That’s the real issue here and the reason it will never be moved back, even though they know themselves it should be.
    Post in it where it is. If you think it should be back in AH ask the local mods, although they have already indicated they are happy to keep it there


  • #77
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,131 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Beasty wrote: »
    Can't you post in a forum other than AH?

    I can and I do. Only 1/9th of my posts are in AH, but I have AH bookmarked and will see that thread when something is posted.

    I won't be going to the Geography forum indefinitely just to see if someone has updated the thread and apart from me, either will anyone else.
    That's the crux of the issue; a good, fun and engaging thread is going to die in a very quiet forum.
    The mod who moved it has already admitted he was wrong and another AH mod has said if he were around it would not have been moved.
    The OP of the thread is pi**ed off it was moved (see here).

    So all in all it has been a mess up.
    Just admit the mistake, move it back and everyone will move on.


  • #78
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The moderator on the new forum seems to have an attitude too so it’s really going to kill it off.


  • #79
    Deja Boo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,681 ✭✭✭✭Deja Boo


    Beasty wrote: »
    Can't you post in a forum other than AH?

    We all post in other forums, but the nature of the new forum isn't exactly someplace I would be comfortable posting, say, a map of Where People Mostly Believe in Santa Claus, in a scientific forum... would you?


  • #80
    osarusan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,692 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    One of the things about a community spirit or whatever on a forum is is that people get to know posters, and enjoy interacting with them, and want to hear what they think about different topics.

    If somebody starts a "best film you have ever seen" thread in AH, maybe they want to hear what the AH regulars have to say, rather than a discussion of film in the film forum with a bunch of posters they don't know.


  • #81
    Skylinehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    Beasty wrote: »
    Can't you post in a forum other than AH?

    That's not an argument at all. Decision was made, thread died, can we move it back now? I don't have the power to do it.
    osarusan wrote: »
    One of the things about a community spirit or whatever on a forum is is that people get to know posters, and enjoy interacting with them, and want to hear what they think about different topics.

    If somebody starts a "best film you have ever seen" thread in AH, maybe they want to hear what the AH regulars have to say, rather than a discussion of film in the film forum with a bunch of posters they don't know.

    Yep, there's plenty of threads about films (usually generic) and music in AH. We don't move everything out, or there'd be nothing left.


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  • #82
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    osarusan wrote: »
    One of the things about a community spirit or whatever on a forum is is that people get to know posters, and enjoy interacting with them, and want to hear what they think about different topics.

    If somebody starts a "best film you have ever seen" thread in AH, maybe they want to hear what the AH regulars have to say, rather than a discussion of film in the film forum with a bunch of posters they don't know.

    And in the dedicated forum you’ll need to be a complete expert on the subject not to face complete condescension. Sometimes posters might just want a laid back chat about something without it getting too heavy.


    The post about some maps on funnier subjects above is the main point on all this though. That’s why it was perfect for AH but the mods waded in and moved it too quick before really thinking about it. They have made a mistake but can’t put the hands up to it now and rectify it. It’s like a show of strength always has to be made, often to the detriment of the forum and its users.


  • #83
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,514 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    I wanted to discuss it with the Geography & Geology mods before doing anything with the Interesting maps thread and I've just moved it back to AH.


    If anyone has any other ideas for perhaps a day trip for the thread please let us know.....:)


  • #84
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,131 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Beasty wrote: »
    I wanted to discuss it with the Geography & Geology mods before doing anything with the Interesting maps thread and I've just moved it back to AH.


    If anyone has any other ideas for perhaps a day trip for the thread please let us know.....:)

    Thanks Beasty for being reasonable.


  • #85
    Deja Boo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,681 ✭✭✭✭Deja Boo


    Beasty wrote: »
    I wanted to discuss it with the Geography & Geology mods before doing anything with the Interesting maps thread and I've just moved it back to AH.


    If anyone has any other ideas for perhaps a day trip for the thread please let us know.....:)

    There's something in it for every forum... it could make the rounds :eek: :D

    Thanks for hearing us out Beasty. :)


  • #86
    Dial Hard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,911 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Genuine question - can we put a limit on the number of threads people can start within a given time frame? The constant barrage of stupid question threads is gone beyond ridiculous at this stage.


  • #87
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,514 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    Genuine question - can we put a limit on the number of threads people can start within a given time frame? The constant barrage of stupid question threads is gone beyond ridiculous at this stage.
    Cannot do it automatically. I can guess at one of the posters you are thinking of, but equally maybe some posters enjoy that sort of thread. Indeed if other posters reply it's normally because they have something to say on the topic

    Having said that I am also aware that the mods have on occasion stopped a specific poster from starting new threads. It's easy to police it if it's only one or two posters as some of those getting wound up by it all will in all likelihood report any trangressions

    Just to add though, it is also part of the return to having more light-hearted debate and banter in AH with most of the heavy duty stuff now in CA/IMHO


  • #88
    Adaline Sparse Manure
    Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Adaline Sparse Manure


    i'm gona be honest
    i don't mind the stupid question threads

    they're fairly original


  • #89
    Dial Hard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,911 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    bluewolf wrote: »
    i'm gona be honest
    i don't mind the stupid question threads

    they're fairly original

    My issue is that I genuinely think one particular poster needs professional help. Not whatever weird validation he's getting from AH.


  • #90
    EmmetSpiceland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,018 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    My issue is that I genuinely think one particular poster needs professional help. Not whatever weird validation he's getting from AH.

    Let’s face it, D. The “powers that be” at boards.ie are always going to be happy enough with the traffic these threads generate.

    Sure, until those, inane, threads started appearing they had a mod that would put up similar threads that were reminiscent of a teacher asking primary school children what they did on their holidays or for their “news”.

    As with those threads, the best way to be rid of them is not to post in them. For some reason these threads get pages, and pages, of responses. Users, constantly, telling the OP their an “idiot” or giving out about their crap threads, all that does is keep the thread on the first page and causes more people to post in it.

    As long as these users are staying within the rules those threads will be with us. Encouraging others not to post on them might be an idea but that could be seen as being “exclusionary” and against the “spirit” of the site.

    Either way, it’s the users, themselves, who seem to be at fault here.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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  • #91
    Adaline Sparse Manure
    Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Adaline Sparse Manure


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    My issue is that I genuinely think one particular poster needs professional help. Not whatever weird validation he's getting from AH.

    that's fair


  • #92
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    EmmetSpiceland wrote: »
    Let’s face it, D. The “powers that be” at boards.ie are always going to be happy enough with the traffic these threads generate.

    Sure, until those, inane, threads started appearing they had a mod that would put up similar threads that were reminiscent of a teacher asking primary school children what they did on their holidays or for their “news”.

    As with those threads, the best way to be rid of them is not to post in them. For some reason these threads get pages, and pages, of responses. Users, constantly, telling the OP their an “idiot” or giving out about their crap threads, all that does is keep the thread on the first page and causes more people to post in it.

    As long as these users are staying within the rules those threads will be with us. Encouraging others not to post on them might be an idea but that could be seen as being “exclusionary” and against the “spirit” of the site.

    Either way, it’s the users, themselves, who seem to be at fault here.

    There’s a bit of a difference between a mod starting harmless threads for a bit of banter and a poster, who seriously needs professional help, posting threads about euthanasia/suicide/drinking antifreeze/self mutilation etc.


  • #93
    EmmetSpiceland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,018 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    There’s a bit of a difference between a mod starting harmless threads for a bit of banter and a poster, who seriously needs professional help, posting threads about euthanasia/suicide/drinking antifreeze/self mutilation etc.

    Is it though? Each is as “inane” as the last. The users decide what stays relevant and what doesn’t.

    If people stopped posting things like “it’s past your bedtime” etc. the threads would just disappear.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • #94
    anewme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,020 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    I must post here about the Marian Finucane thread this evening and the quality (or lack thereof) on the thread.

    The thread was allowed continue way too long before it was shut.

    Given the standard, this thread should be deleted out of respect.


  • #95
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,514 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    anewme wrote: »
    I must post here about the Marian Finucane thread this evening and the quality (or lack thereof) on the thread.

    The thread was allowed continue way too long before it was shut.

    Given the standard, this thread should be deleted out of respect.

    Mods have deleted it.

    Please give them a little time to consider requests. Sometimes a decision may be straightforward, but often mods will seek input from others rather than acting unilaterally. That takes time


  • #96
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Beasty wrote: »
    Mods have deleted it.

    Please give them a little time to consider requests. Sometimes a decision may be straightforward, but often mods will seek input from others rather than acting unilaterally. That takes time

    That thread shouldn't have been deleted.

    If AH had been moderated properly for the past year or so instead of the decision to let it be overrun by the same rereg trolls we would be able to debate Marian Finucanes legacy.

    We went from everything getting shut down in AH three years ago, to a free for all today. That forum needs professional paid moderation.


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  • #97
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,514 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    and I would suggest AH is not the best place for such a discussion. There is a thread in Radio and another in Television where posters can pay their respects


  • #98
    anewme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,020 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    That thread shouldn't have been deleted.

    If AH had been moderated properly for the past year or so instead of the decision to let it be overrun by the same rereg trolls we would be able to debate Marian Finucanes legacy.

    We went from everything getting shut down in AH three years ago, to a free for all today. That forum needs professional paid moderation.

    Given the quality of that thread, there were not many options open to Mods other than delete.

    In general, Boards needs to clean up its act, and maybe as you say get professional moderators to halt the spread of hatred and misogyny.

    Another recent example (not After Hours) is in the Television Forum where Una Healy New Year Special Program has numerous degrading sexual comments, nothing whatsoever to do with Television.


  • #99
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    a modest proposal:


    a graph of all moderator actions taken, but with the user thus action placed on their respective position on the political spectrum (best-guess will have to do, obviously, and possibly a four-axis rather than a simple line).

    weighted for repeat actions against the user, obviously.

    it would be interesting to refer back to over time.

    ive a feeling, from looking on, that theres as many mod interventions affecting any one side as the other, rather than the picture commonly painted here (and other such threads) of a right-wing troll invasion of misbehaviour.

    long may it continue so, that mods react to poor conduct and not "people having the wrong opinion" which seems rather more to be the complaint made in here by posters holding hankies up to their noses.

    oh i didnt say "cesspit". sorry!


  • #100
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,514 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Just a reminder - you need to have been on the site for 3 months and have a minimum postcount of 100 to post in Feedback

    Just to clarify one point that was raised in a deleted post, beyond our regular re-regs, 2 posters are currently sitebanned for posts made in the various RIP threads - in one case it triggered a breach of probation and the other it was for the posts themselves. The second will regain access before too long but their cards are well and truly marked. Further sanctions were handed out at forum level


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    Raconteuse
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    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    That thread shouldn't have been deleted.

    If AH had been moderated properly for the past year or so instead of the decision to let it be overrun by the same rereg trolls we would be able to debate Marian Finucanes legacy.

    We went from everything getting shut down in AH three years ago, to a free for all today.
    Absolutely.
    Deleted User wrote: »
    "people having the wrong opinion" which seems rather more to be the complaint made in here by posters holding hankies up to their noses.
    No it isn't at all. That phrase just gets used to dismiss views - ironically simply because of disagreeing with them.

    It's plain as day that there is an increase in malicious content. Nothing to do with difference of opinion. It's a discussion forum - of course there has to be difference of opinion.


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