Planning permission to build permanent accommodation in back garden

stevek93 wrote: »

Hi all,

I want to build a permanent concrete structure in my back garden, I have no idea where to start with this. I would like to rent the structure as living accommodation but I want to have everything done legally. What do I need to do here?

Thanks

unless you have lands big enough to provide the requirements for two independent houses ie car park, private amenity space, refuse storage etc.. and the new houses doesnt impact on the privacy or enjoyment of the existing house, or houses in the immediate vicinity...

then your barking up the wrong tree.

in the vast, vast majority of cases, urban houses are on sites large enough for only one dwelling

Thargor wrote: »

Go with a log cabin instead OP.

makes no difference how its constructed

its the use of the property which will be the issue

mgn wrote: »

I have seen on a few occasions where planning permission was granted for a new house on large corner site or the likes of the last house in a cul-de sac with room at the end.

of course... which tallies exactly with my post

ive designed many houses for corner sites, or end of terrace where there was space to squeeze in another

IF the site is large enough and suitable enough for a second house, it may get planning.

however these threads tend to come on who, like the OP, wants to build something "down the bottom of the garden"and in the vast vast majority of cases this is not a runner.

mgn wrote: »

What about the granny flat option.

any granny flat application ive been involved with has required a good, valid, provable reason as to why the structure is required... and generally its because its for someone from the family who requires independence but also a degree of care.

There would also be a condition that the structure shall be for the enjoyment of the applicants and shall not be sold or rented... and when it ceases to be a granny flat it is to be subsumed back into the main dwelling.

I have had to include, in some applications, drawings of how the house would work AFTER the structure is no longer a granny flat.

mgn wrote: »

You can, all you have to do is buy a site with an old house on it, you might have to keep a wall or two but flatten the rest and build your mansion if you want.

you seem determined to answer my points with non related stuff.

you cant purchase a site in a highly desirable rural location and build your mansion unless your a local and can show local need.

of course, ANYONE can buy a house and decide to knock it down and build again... but this isnt the same as what i said above.

and anyway regardless of that, local authorities have strict policies as to what they will give permission for in regard to replacement dwellings... strict policy on the structural integrity of the dwelling... and if its deemed derelict, some LAs implement rural need if your looking to replace.

http://www.kildare.ie/CountyCouncil/Planning/DevelopmentPlans/KildareCountyDevelopmentPlan2017-2023/DraftCountyDevelopmentPlan/Volume1/Volume%201.pdf
see policy RH 22 in the above document for example

and again, if your thinking of buying, doing a major demolition and then extending, there are struct policies as to the design... withmany LAs requiring the the new build be proportional to the existing and the existing being retained in its independent form, with the extension being separate and subservient.

see policy RH 21 in the above document for example, and policy 16.8.3 for design of extensions

Where extensions are proposed to an existing cottage
care should be taken so that the extension does not
detract from the original character of the building.
As a rule extensions to the front and gable of cottages
are to be avoided. An extension to the front can mask
original detailing or it can alter the proportions of the
front facade which detracts from the original character.
An extension to the side can upset the symmetry of the
cottage, or can result in the loss of the original scale of
the cottage. An extension to the rear that is visible from
the road or above the original ridge line can also detract
from the character of the cottage. Rear extensions
should take account of side and rear views from a public
road, and the extension should not dominate the existing
cottage.

mgn wrote: »

And simple way around all that is to buy a 2 story building that's in of the road. simple.

If only this thread was about buying a house.....

stevek93 wrote: »

I dont know why its difficult here to get permission, if you aren't causing a hindrance then what is the issue? We have a housing shortage the government should actively encourage land owners to use their land if they so wish to provide accommodation.

As I said in my previous post I struggled renting for years until I bought a home, I have enough space in my back garden to accommodate one person, I know it isnt a block of apartments I'm building but its something. It might make so the local hospital has a new nurse or doctor or whatever I am in walking distance of the hospital.

If you have the required space, then absolutely you should crack on and get an application prepared.

However if you don't have the required space don't be surprised if that application is refused.

The first thing you should do is go talk to the planners in a preplanning meeting

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

How is that even legal, genuinely wondering

rural housing is a very finite resource.

so restricting it to those with the highest need is deemed to be the policy.

The alternative is to have NO new rural housing